The valley pitch!!!

MuttleyCAFC

Rothko said:

magic1999 said:

Such a shame the undersoil heating won't be used until we are in the Prem, to expensive to run in the Championship, wish most outside companies would do that though like put the Water, Gas and Fibre optics and Lekki in at the same time just in case you might use it in the future so you don't have to dig the pitch up again !

It can be used before, temporary boiler is linked up, and away you go. Give our friends at Andrews a call, and they'll supply the kit

I was wondering whether it might be cheaper to use a temporary boiler. When you need it like. If you install one you have to service it and replace it when it gets too old! A bit geeky but I would be interested to know the relative costs.

guinnessaddick

cafcfan said:

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Nug said:

This was the last picture on twitter

Just love all the mole grips holding the pipes in place in that picture. I guess being moles they'll just be covered up and will continue working underground. As long as they don't start burrowing about leaving little piles of soil on the pitch.....

When big Bob said we are going to bury the spanners this season. I hope this isn't what he meant.

Dazzler21

So 6 days and not a thing has been done to the pitch?

F***ing P***taker Rob de Heer coming over here taking our undersoil heating pipe and pitch laying b**tard.

;oD

golfaddick

is it usual to put down seed rather than turf ?? waiting for the seed to grow is obviously going to take longer & I thought it would have been better just to turf it like most other times ??

Clem_Snide

golfaddick said:

is it usual to put down seed rather than turf ?? waiting for the seed to grow is obviously going to take longer & I thought it would have been better just to turf it like most other times ??

Gonna take a wild stab in the dark and suggest that a company who specialize in sport pitch installation are going to know the best way to "get grass on the pitch"

randy andy

I think there is a plastic mesh in the surface, so seed would be needed so the grass can grow through the mesh and bind with it

Covered End

magic1999 said:

Rothko Im sure it could be used before but recon they won't

I asked Paddy Powell and he said it would be used if required.

Sillybilly

Covered End said:

magic1999 said:

Rothko Im sure it could be used before but recon they won't

I asked Paddy Powell and he said it would be used if required.

Was that before after he said "f@@k em, hope it bursts and floods the place out"?

Hex

golfaddick said:

is it usual to put down seed rather than turf ?? waiting for the seed to grow is obviously going to take longer & I thought it would have been better just to turf it like most other times ??

I think I recall Paddy saying that turf gets you a pitch quicker but seed gives you a better pitch.

ShootersHillGuru

Seed is always better. Turf is a quick fix.

Redrobo

Seed will definitely give you a better pitch. There is time as seed takes between 7 and 14 days to germinate - depending on the quality of seed. The hard wearing type is the quickest (Rye grass). I think we would be putting something slightly better down.

It will then take 4 weeks or so before the first mow. It will still be fragile until the roots establish. After 4 to 12 months it will be ready to play football on and by then we may even have some players.

I suspect we are going for the part plastic pitch means that the roots are protected so the grass attaches to the plastic fibres and you can play much quicker. The plastic fibers are injected about 20cm into the ground and cover about 3% of the pitch and are said to give better wear and recovery + a more comfotable playing surface. With this system you can be playing on it after as little as 3 months.

The good news is that for those who choose to afford it- it can be grown off site and will be ready in days.

Stig

Redrobo said:

...After 4 to 12 months it will be ready to play football on and by then we may even have some players....

Hmmmm - Another abandoned August fixture then?

Covered End

We'll be playing on it before 3 months, ie mid September.
It's only the 1st league game, that we have requested to play away from home.

J BLOCK

Covered End said:

We'll be playing on it before 3 months, ie mid September.
It's only the 1st league game, that we have requested to play away from home.

Is that a fact?? Must have missed that if so.

Covered End

Paddy Powell said it at the Bromley meeting, a few weeks ago, before he was made redundant.

Redrobo

Covered End said:

We'll be playing on it before 3 months, ie mid September.
It's only the 1st league game, that we have requested to play away from home.

We certainly will - we will have had it grown off site.

PL54

Redrobo said:

Covered End said:

We'll be playing on it before 3 months, ie mid September.
It's only the 1st league game, that we have requested to play away from home.

We certainly will - we will have had it grown off site.

growing it off-site is surely the same as just laying turf ?

ShootersHillGuru

It's being seeded.

Darty Valiant

Looks like Diego's new home ground.

Redrobo

PL54 said:

Redrobo said:

Covered End said:

We'll be playing on it before 3 months, ie mid September.
It's only the 1st league game, that we have requested to play away from home.

We certainly will - we will have had it grown off site.

growing it off-site is surely the same as just laying turf ?

Yup, just a bit more sophisticated than the stuff from your local supplier. Sounds a bit posher too. Unless you are building a new ground it is the only way to do it.

golfaddick

but we are neither growing it off site or laying turf - we are actually putting down grass seed........

Davo55

ShootersHillGuru said:

Seed is always better. Turf is a quick fix.

Anyone remember when Jimmy Turf was manager? Rubbish!

Rothko

So Wembley was turf, and it was a horror show, they went for seed based pitch, and bingo, (plus desso) they've got a pitch which is worthy of the stadium.

You only lay turf in an emergency, seeded pitches always work a lot better.

Brendan_O_Connell

How come you lot know so much about grass?

killerandflash

Rothko said:

So Wembley was turf, and it was a horror show, they went for seed based pitch, and bingo, (plus desso) they've got a pitch which is worthy of the stadium.

You only lay turf in an emergency, seeded pitches always work a lot better.

There's a reason why it's called the Jimmy Seed stand (and not the Jimmy Turf stand)

F-Blocker

Brendan_O_Connell said:

How come you lot know so much about grass?

It's an internet message board - everyone's an expert on everything! ;o)

Redrobo

Rothko said:

So Wembley was turf, and it was a horror show, they went for seed based pitch, and bingo, (plus desso) they've got a pitch which is worthy of the stadium.

You only lay turf in an emergency, seeded pitches always work a lot better.

So the first home game in Oct then.

MuttleyCAFC

I recall paddy seeding previous year's pitches about this time so can't imagine there is an issue.

cafcfan

The Millennium Stadium uses (used?) turf on pallets which were moved out when there was a non-sporting event.

Essex_Al

The sprinklers are out