There is another urban legend going around, which I give no more or less creedence to than NLA's version of events.
It is that Katrien was so taken aback by the firestorm from the fans when it became clear he was off, that she phoned RD to ask if he might not want to reconsider.
Now, if he had been sold because he had been "holding RD to ransom", "tried to play hardball and lost", and all the other romantic macho urban legend fantasy, do you really think Katrien would even bother to make such a call?
There is another urban legend going around, which I give no more or less creedence to than NLA's version of events.
It is that Katrien was so taken aback by the firestorm from the fans when it became clear he was off, that she phoned RD to ask if he might not want to reconsider.
Now, if he had been sold because he had been "holding RD to ransom", "tried to play hardball and lost", and all the other romantic macho urban legend fantasy, do you really think Katrien would even bother to make such a call?
There are obviously two sides to this story and both camps (Yann's and the club), I suggest, are being selective with the facts they choose to acknowledge.
If Piotr cost £700000 or 700000 euros, whoever paid that has made a massive mistake.I am a pretty good judge of a footballer and Michael Smith, at the moment, is a better player than PP. That is not to say that PP won't improve, but we could have got a good standard Striker with that money, or kept Kermy. PPs ex club must be having a good laugh.
No one can say that we would be better off with him here as yann every season here had at least 2 good lengths of injury
I can't believe people have let this statement go unchallenged.
Yann scores goals. Our current strikers don't. Even if he had missed a few games through injury he would still have had a big impact in the games he did play.
It is beyond reasonable doubt that we would be better off if he were still here. As I said above, if we go down, letting him go will be the main reason for it.
Milllwall v Bournemouth on the last day. I can see it now, a Francis cross in the 95th minute, flicked on by Arter for Yann the man to finish with a spectacular volley as Blackpool and Charlton play out a 0-0 draw.
I have a lot of sympathy for RD in this. If I had just spent 14 million pounds, or however much it was, on a business & 2 weeks later one of my newly acquired employees comes to me acting all Billy Big Bollocks & saying "I need a huge pay rise, or I'm off", I would probably just say "cheerio". I would do this regardless of how important he was to the business, and particularly if I was aware that one week earlier he had thrown a sickie just to avoid renewing his existing employment contract. In my world, that act alone would be treated as gross misconduct & he would have set himself up to be summarily dismissed anyway. I would also want to make sure that I was making it clear that nobody would be dictating terms to me going forward. I would also be quietly confident that I could easily replace him from the market & I would be certain that I would be much better off without this particular troublemaker.
OK, I know that football does not run like any other business, but that is one of the key reasons why so many clubs are financially screwed. If only football followed a more conventional business model a lot of clubs would be much better off. Hence the introduction of FFP, to try & curb the financial excesses of too many clubs.
RD has a background in running very successful businesses, so the decisions he took are totally understandable to me. If they were entirely appropriate, only time will tell.
However we can not keep yapping on about yann yann yann as a stick to be critical of the regime we are under
Of course we can as whatever the details behind the negotiation, and whoever is the bad guy here (probably both parties to an extent) the simple fact is that selling Yann and replacing him with rubbish has been a massive mistake and looks like it could cost us our place in the Championship. If that's not a good enough reason to criticise the new regime then what is??
It's not as simple as being "pro-RD" or "pro-Yann". I loved Yann and despite my tone sometimes I'm pro-RD and hope his network works out for us despite my serious reservations. That doesn't mean I can't think that RD has massively screwed up in this instance and made a potentially fatal error of judgement.
Without wanting to sound patronising I wonder how many people defending RD have been in a situation where their superstar worker has been offered far better money by a rival company? Sometimes despite the individual's loyalty they have to consider it, and then as their boss you have to weigh up whether to break the bank or not to keep them. You have to use your experience and knowledge of your industry and competitive landscape to make your judgement. Clearly, undisputedly, in this case, we are weaker without Yann and it could still lead to relegation. That is a RD F-Up of the highest order and one that was clearly done through either stubbornness or by being badly advised. Either way he is culpable for it and while the previous regime caused the situation it was RD who made the ultimate mistake.
I have a lot of sympathy for RD in this. If I had just spent 14 million pounds, or however much it was, on a business & 2 weeks later one of my newly acquired employees comes to me acting all Billy Big Bollocks & saying "I need a huge pay rise, or I'm off", I would probably just say "cheerio". I would do this regardless of how important he was to the business, and particularly if I was aware that one week earlier he had thrown a sickie just to avoid renewing his existing employment contract. In my world, that act alone would be treated as gross misconduct & he would have set himself up to be summarily dismissed anyway. I would also want to make sure that I was making it clear that nobody would be dictating terms to me going forward. I would also be quietly confident that I could easily replace him from the market & I would be certain that I would be much better off without this particular troublemaker.
OK, I know that football does not run like any other business, but that is one of the key reasons why so many clubs are financially screwed. If only football followed a more conventional business model a lot of clubs would be much better off. Hence the introduction of FFP, to try & curb the financial excesses of too many clubs.
RD has a background in running very successful businesses, so the decisions he took are totally understandable to me. If they were entirely appropriate, only time will tell.
Then I would respectfully suggest that your stance would be based on personal ego and pride rather than what was best for the company you had just bought. You can't let personal emotions cloud your business decisions. If someone is worth something based on market rates then sometimes you just have to swallow it.
I have a lot of sympathy for RD in this. If I had just spent 14 million pounds, or however much it was, on a business & 2 weeks later one of my newly acquired employees comes to me acting all Billy Big Bollocks & saying "I need a huge pay rise, or I'm off", I would probably just say "cheerio". I would do this regardless of how important he was to the business, and particularly if I was aware that one week earlier he had thrown a sickie just to avoid renewing his existing employment contract. In my world, that act alone would be treated as gross misconduct & he would have set himself up to be summarily dismissed anyway. I would also want to make sure that I was making it clear that nobody would be dictating terms to me going forward. I would also be quietly confident that I could easily replace him from the market & I would be certain that I would be much better off without this particular troublemaker.
OK, I know that football does not run like any other business, but that is one of the key reasons why so many clubs are financially screwed. If only football followed a more conventional business model a lot of clubs would be much better off. Hence the introduction of FFP, to try & curb the financial excesses of too many clubs.
RD has a background in running very successful businesses, so the decisions he took are totally understandable to me. If they were entirely appropriate, only time will tell.
Then I would respectfully suggest that your stance would be based on personal ego and pride rather than what was best for the company you had just bought. You can't let personal emotions cloud your business decisions. If someone is worth something based on market rates then sometimes you just have to swallow it.
Absolutely the opposite actually. I want employees who put the company first not their own personal ambitions.
I have a lot of sympathy for RD in this. If I had just spent 14 million pounds, or however much it was, on a business & 2 weeks later one of my newly acquired employees comes to me acting all Billy Big Bollocks & saying "I need a huge pay rise, or I'm off", I would probably just say "cheerio". I would do this regardless of how important he was to the business, and particularly if I was aware that one week earlier he had thrown a sickie just to avoid renewing his existing employment contract. In my world, that act alone would be treated as gross misconduct & he would have set himself up to be summarily dismissed anyway. I would also want to make sure that I was making it clear that nobody would be dictating terms to me going forward. I would also be quietly confident that I could easily replace him from the market & I would be certain that I would be much better off without this particular troublemaker.
OK, I know that football does not run like any other business, but that is one of the key reasons why so many clubs are financially screwed. If only football followed a more conventional business model a lot of clubs would be much better off. Hence the introduction of FFP, to try & curb the financial excesses of too many clubs.
RD has a background in running very successful businesses, so the decisions he took are totally understandable to me. If they were entirely appropriate, only time will tell.
Except that he wasn't a troublemaker. Quite the opposite over the length of his Charlton career, whatever may or may not have gone on in January. His attitude on the pitch had been first class, which anyone who knew about the club could have told RD, if he had been interested in listening. And what's missing from your summary is the extent to which he'd been messed around and felt lied to by the club over many months.
As for being "quietly confident" of replacing him, that went well, didn't it?
The bottom line is that we should not have sold Yann unless we had a nailed on replacement ready to take his place, like Becchio or someone else of that proven Championship quality.
RD gambled that Reza and others could fill the gap left by Yann and they have utterly failed to do so as our appalling goal scoring record shows.
If no replacement was available then we should have played hardball with Yann and refused to sell him and let him go on a free in the summer.
A total clusterfuck and the truth is that if we do stay up that it will owe a lot more to the very poor teams around us - take a bow Blackpool - than our own performances and quality.
I agree that a replacement should have been found. The issue appears to be around playing hardball with Kermorgant... it appears that Kermorgant was prepared to feign injury to avoid more appearances and the extension clause kicking in. So he was simply going to sit at Sparrows lane picking up the cash.
And we are indeed fortunate that we are not facing the table from this time last year where teams went down on 51 points.
It appears that Kermorgant (and Fuller) command £6-700K pa as injury prone 30 something strikers who can put the ball away. I hope that Duchatelet has a solution over the summer to sign some serious strikers as the rest of the squad look OK.
Oh really? To whom exactly did this "appear"?
NLA has repeatedly asserted this on here... I have a different source which corroborates this and convinces me that Kermorgant was heading to Bournemouth. It is unfortunate that some cheer on ex players, call Duchatelet names and of course put money on Charlton getting relegated!
For me many things in life are about loyalty not short term gain and positioning.
If Piotr cost £700000 or 700000 euros, whoever paid that has made a massive mistake.I am a pretty good judge of a footballer and Michael Smith, at the moment, is a better player than PP. That is not to say that PP won't improve, but we could have got a good standard Striker with that money, or kept Kermy. PPs ex club must be having a good laugh.
I have to say that as far as I can make out (my Dutch being a bit less than fluent :-)), their fans thought he really was the business and were terribly proud that he was going to go off to England and show what he could do. He was even referred to as "The Ambassador". One speculated in response to me that he may have problems settling in (which i could well believe, London is a tough old place for a 20 year old). Another post just in has this interesting observation:
I'm convinced he can do it and he will succeed. However please put a good , technical striker next to him (so not too much attention to Piotr) . Furthermore he will need to play for 5 full games after each other. With the right support and trust he will succeed.
For those that seem to have complete certainty that selling Kermorgant was a mistake, I'd suggest reflecting on what has happened this season to Fuller, Haynes and Obika.
Its not so long ago that many people were suggesting that letting these players go (and not making more effort to sign Obika) was a huge mistake and clear evidence of a failure to back Chris Powell. I've no doubt Powell would have retained/signed all three had he been able.
For the record, Fuller has made 15 appearances for Blackpool and scored just 4 goals. Their only chance of survival is to beat us on the last day of the season and hope. Danny Haynes had 21 appearances at Notts County, scoring 3 goals. It looks like they are being relegated to Division 2, but despite that they've shipped Haynes out on loan to Hibs where he's not playing. Obika we know about. He couldn't get a game for Brighton and he can't get a start for us.
I can understand why Kermorgant was sold and won't repeat what others have said about that. We might get relegated and its possible we might have stayed up had Kermorgant stayed, but that's speculation. It is simply not possible to be certain about that. What is certain is that his contract would have been outsized and a major liability for a Club playing in Division One.
The real problem is not the sale of Kermorgant, but the desperately disappointing loan and emergency loan windows. What went wrong and who is responsible? Did anybody notice Lukas Jutkiewicz yesterday? I thought he was a real handful for Dervite. Very powerful and held the ball up well. He's scored six goals in 16 games for Bolton. He signed on loan from Middlesborough in January. There was no Chris Eagles for Bolton yesterday. What a difference he'd have made against Barnsley had he played instead of Harriott. What went wrong there?
Let's all be angry and find somebody to blame if we must, but whatever it was that went wrong in January and February there was much more to it than "a terrible decision to sell Kermorgant".
The bottom line is that we should not have sold Yann unless we had a nailed on replacement ready to take his place, like Becchio or someone else of that proven Championship quality.
RD gambled that Reza and others could fill the gap left by Yann and they have utterly failed to do so as our appalling goal scoring record shows.
If no replacement was available then we should have played hardball with Yann and refused to sell him and let him go on a free in the summer.
A total clusterfuck and the truth is that if we do stay up that it will owe a lot more to the very poor teams around us - take a bow Blackpool - than our own performances and quality.
I agree that a replacement should have been found. The issue appears to be around playing hardball with Kermorgant... it appears that Kermorgant was prepared to feign injury to avoid more appearances and the extension clause kicking in. So he was simply going to sit at Sparrows lane picking up the cash.
And we are indeed fortunate that we are not facing the table from this time last year where teams went down on 51 points.
It appears that Kermorgant (and Fuller) command £6-700K pa as injury prone 30 something strikers who can put the ball away. I hope that Duchatelet has a solution over the summer to sign some serious strikers as the rest of the squad look OK.
Oh really? To whom exactly did this "appear"?
NLA has repeatedly asserted this on here... I have a different source which corroborates this and convinces me that Kermorgant was heading to Bournemouth. It is unfortunate that some cheer on ex players, call Duchatelet names and of course put money on Charlton getting relegated!
For me many things in life are about loyalty not short term gain and positioning.
Oh if NLA said it, it's gospel.
Not at all. But if someone at the club tells me something that ties in to NLA and if @PragueAddick now acknowledges he was told something similar but
On this occasion I decided I didn't fully believe what he was saying.
then it adds up on balance to suggest that Kermorgant did feign injury to avoid triggering an automatic one year extension. Bottom line is that I'm 80% sure we will stay up without him and we will move on. The main concern should be what are the club going to do about the goal drought over the summer.
I would like to ask RD now if he regrets letting Yann go. I think his answer would be that he does. Things are always easier in hindsight. I think the simple fact is that RD underestimated the value on the pitch of Yann and made a mistake in letting him go. I think RD has good intentions but he underestimated the physicality and competitiveness of the Championship. Hopefully he's learned from that.
Once we avoid relegation (I think we will but it's more of a slog without Yann and Stephens) I'd like to think RD and his team will have learned from this experience and will make make better decisions going forward regarding the players we let go and the players we bring in. That's my hope anyway, otherwise we really are in the doodah.
I would love to know, how much Yann was earning, how much he asked for. How much the club received from Bournemouth for him, and how much we got for Dale Stephens? How much did we pay for Stephens? I've heard Yann was on £12,000 pw here, we then offered £10,000. Bournemouth paying him £18,000 pw. Would love to have any of this confirmed. Doubt if any of us on here will ever get to know the real truth!
For those that seem to have complete certainty that selling Kermorgant was a mistake, I'd suggest reflecting on what has happened this season to Fuller, Haynes and Obika.
Its not so long ago that many people were suggesting that letting these players go (and not making more effort to sign Obika) was a huge mistake and clear evidence of a failure to back Chris Powell. I've no doubt Powell would have retained/signed all three had he been able.
For the record, Fuller has made 15 appearances for Blackpool and scored just 4 goals. Their only chance of survival is to beat us on the last day of the season and hope. Danny Haynes had 21 appearances at Notts County, scoring 3 goals. It looks like they are being relegated to Division 2, but despite that they've shipped Haynes out on loan to Hibs where he's not playing. Obika we know about. He couldn't get a game for Brighton and he can't get a start for us.
I can understand why Kermorgant was sold and won't repeat what others have said about that. We might get relegated and its possible we might have stayed up had Kermorgant stayed, but that's speculation. It is simply not possible to be certain about that. What is certain is that his contract would have been outsized and a major liability for a Club playing in Division One.
The real problem is not the sale of Kermorgant, but the desperately disappointing loan and emergency loan windows. What went wrong and who is responsible? Did anybody notice Lukas Jutkiewicz yesterday? I thought he was a real handful for Dervite. Very powerful and held the ball up well. He's scored six goals in 16 games for Bolton. He signed on loan from Middlesborough in January. There was no Chris Eagles for Bolton yesterday. What a difference he'd have made against Barnsley had he played instead of Harriott. What went wrong there?
Let's all be angry and find somebody to blame if we must, but whatever it was that went wrong in January and February there was much more to it than "a terrible decision to sell Kermorgant".
As much as I do think selling Kermorgant was irrevocably the wrong decision to make, this is a very good point. At the time I consoled myself with the arrivals of Reza and PP who were heralded as the men to take his place goals-wise. Our real problem is that over time, it has been revealed they are very much not up to that task.
The bottom line is that we should not have sold Yann unless we had a nailed on replacement ready to take his place, like Becchio or someone else of that proven Championship quality.
RD gambled that Reza and others could fill the gap left by Yann and they have utterly failed to do so as our appalling goal scoring record shows.
If no replacement was available then we should have played hardball with Yann and refused to sell him and let him go on a free in the summer.
A total clusterfuck and the truth is that if we do stay up that it will owe a lot more to the very poor teams around us - take a bow Blackpool - than our own performances and quality.
I agree that a replacement should have been found. The issue appears to be around playing hardball with Kermorgant... it appears that Kermorgant was prepared to feign injury to avoid more appearances and the extension clause kicking in. So he was simply going to sit at Sparrows lane picking up the cash.
And we are indeed fortunate that we are not facing the table from this time last year where teams went down on 51 points.
It appears that Kermorgant (and Fuller) command £6-700K pa as injury prone 30 something strikers who can put the ball away. I hope that Duchatelet has a solution over the summer to sign some serious strikers as the rest of the squad look OK.
Oh really? To whom exactly did this "appear"?
NLA has repeatedly asserted this on here... I have a different source which corroborates this and convinces me that Kermorgant was heading to Bournemouth. It is unfortunate that some cheer on ex players, call Duchatelet names and of course put money on Charlton getting relegated!
For me many things in life are about loyalty not short term gain and positioning.
Oh if NLA said it, it's gospel.
Not at all. But if someone at the club tells me something that ties in to NLA and if @PragueAddick now acknowledges he was told something similar but
On this occasion I decided I didn't fully believe what he was saying.
then it adds up on balance to suggest that Kermorgant did feign injury to avoid triggering an automatic one year extension. Bottom line is that I'm 80% sure we will stay up without him and we will move on. The main concern should be what are the club going to do about the goal drought over the summer.
I was NOT told that he had feigned an injury. That is a most serious accusation. I was told that he had threatened not to play. While a serious accusation in itself, it is not the same thing. Furthermore I reported that conversation in a Trust Skype call at the time, which you may or may not have been in on, but please let's not pretend that it's something I just recently heard.
I think Airman as usual calls it right. Probably both sides not quite telling us the truth (although YK at least telling). I just do not believe based on everything I have seen on the pitch, and indeed based his apparent desire to set things straight with us, that YK is the type of footballer who would feign an injury (for his personal gain). I could believe it of Danny Mills for example...
In my business I won't be dictated too by any employee as to his wage and if he thew a sickie because he thought I weber paying enough I would fuck him off too
Ego no not at all it's all about who is the boss and who makes the big decisions and how much influence your prepared to let one person have
@Mundell Fleming thank you for tracking our ex players - it is not that Fuller, Kermorgant and Obika were world beaters but that they appeared good enough for a mid table championship side and that their replacements are clearly not. Riga's team is consistently creating 10-15 chances per game but Ajdarevic, Jackson and Morrison(!) are our most potent goal threats. Too late to worry for this season so let's hope we can sneak a 1-0 home win or two but what will Duchatelet do this summer? I'm fairly sure he will not be shelling out £6-750k per annum for any 30 something injury prone striker...that is inflated at Championship level unless they are of the right calibre to get us to the play-offs. There's a fair percentage of posters on here stating that CAFC have to pay the going rate. The real challenge for Duchatelet and this new network is whether there are players next season who show us some decent goal scoring ability and who sign up for jam tomorrow not jam today. Liege have recruited decent strikers like Batshuayi around three years ago who appears to be now worth £7m and is contracted to Liege until 2018. A lucky find or can Duchatelet repeat this in SE7? The quicker he does, the quicker we climb the table next season and forget about all those strikers from 2011/12.
Letting Yann go was as much, if not more, about RD making it clear that he was the boss and was going to call the shots than it was about the merits or otherwise of the player.
He made that point very well but as we have seen he was cutting off his nose to spite his face.
Having made the big decision to move Yann on he had to get a suitable replacement in if the decision was to benefit him and CAFC.
He didn't so we are were were are. Imagine we'd signed up Stephens and Yann, kept Stewart AND signed Reza, Obika and AA. We'd be much stronger, would have more chance of staying up and so re-building the squad and club in summer.
It's going to be a rough ride with Roland for a few years at least IMO
If Piotr cost £700000 or 700000 euros, whoever paid that has made a massive mistake.I am a pretty good judge of a footballer and Michael Smith, at the moment, is a better player than PP. That is not to say that PP won't improve, but we could have got a good standard Striker with that money, or kept Kermy. PPs ex club must be having a good laugh.
PP is the new Martin Christensen (excepting that he did make a brief cameo for the first team) it wouldn't be Charlton if we didn't have a useless non-playing parasite somewhere on the payroll.
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It is that Katrien was so taken aback by the firestorm from the fans when it became clear he was off, that she phoned RD to ask if he might not want to reconsider.
Now, if he had been sold because he had been "holding RD to ransom", "tried to play hardball and lost", and all the other romantic macho urban legend fantasy, do you really think Katrien would even bother to make such a call?
There are obviously two sides to this story and both camps (Yann's and the club), I suggest, are being selective with the facts they choose to acknowledge.
Yann scores goals. Our current strikers don't. Even if he had missed a few games through injury he would still have had a big impact in the games he did play.
It is beyond reasonable doubt that we would be better off if he were still here. As I said above, if we go down, letting him go will be the main reason for it.
In fact is say he was powelly best ever signing in his whole career past and future
However we can not keep yapping on about yann yann yann as a stick to be critical of the regime we are under
No player ever in the history of football should ever be allowed to wield power like that
If Jordan Diego Etc done it in would feel the same and him doing it was a piss poor example of professional footballer
OK, I know that football does not run like any other business, but that is one of the key reasons why so many clubs are financially screwed. If only football followed a more conventional business model a lot of clubs would be much better off. Hence the introduction of FFP, to try & curb the financial excesses of too many clubs.
RD has a background in running very successful businesses, so the decisions he took are totally understandable to me. If they were entirely appropriate, only time will tell.
It's not as simple as being "pro-RD" or "pro-Yann". I loved Yann and despite my tone sometimes I'm pro-RD and hope his network works out for us despite my serious reservations. That doesn't mean I can't think that RD has massively screwed up in this instance and made a potentially fatal error of judgement.
Without wanting to sound patronising I wonder how many people defending RD have been in a situation where their superstar worker has been offered far better money by a rival company? Sometimes despite the individual's loyalty they have to consider it, and then as their boss you have to weigh up whether to break the bank or not to keep them. You have to use your experience and knowledge of your industry and competitive landscape to make your judgement. Clearly, undisputedly, in this case, we are weaker without Yann and it could still lead to relegation. That is a RD F-Up of the highest order and one that was clearly done through either stubbornness or by being badly advised. Either way he is culpable for it and while the previous regime caused the situation it was RD who made the ultimate mistake.
As for being "quietly confident" of replacing him, that went well, didn't it?
I'm convinced he can do it and he will succeed.
However please put a good , technical striker next to him (so not too much attention to Piotr) . Furthermore he will need to play for 5 full games after each other. With the right support and trust he will succeed.
Its not so long ago that many people were suggesting that letting these players go (and not making more effort to sign Obika) was a huge mistake and clear evidence of a failure to back Chris Powell. I've no doubt Powell would have retained/signed all three had he been able.
For the record, Fuller has made 15 appearances for Blackpool and scored just 4 goals. Their only chance of survival is to beat us on the last day of the season and hope. Danny Haynes had 21 appearances at Notts County, scoring 3 goals. It looks like they are being relegated to Division 2, but despite that they've shipped Haynes out on loan to Hibs where he's not playing. Obika we know about. He couldn't get a game for Brighton and he can't get a start for us.
I can understand why Kermorgant was sold and won't repeat what others have said about that. We might get relegated and its possible we might have stayed up had Kermorgant stayed, but that's speculation. It is simply not possible to be certain about that. What is certain is that his contract would have been outsized and a major liability for a Club playing in Division One.
The real problem is not the sale of Kermorgant, but the desperately disappointing loan and emergency loan windows. What went wrong and who is responsible? Did anybody notice Lukas Jutkiewicz yesterday? I thought he was a real handful for Dervite. Very powerful and held the ball up well. He's scored six goals in 16 games for Bolton. He signed on loan from Middlesborough in January. There was no Chris Eagles for Bolton yesterday. What a difference he'd have made against Barnsley had he played instead of Harriott. What went wrong there?
Let's all be angry and find somebody to blame if we must, but whatever it was that went wrong in January and February there was much more to it than "a terrible decision to sell Kermorgant".
Bottom line is that I'm 80% sure we will stay up without him and we will move on. The main concern should be what are the club going to do about the goal drought over the summer.
Once we avoid relegation (I think we will but it's more of a slog without Yann and Stephens) I'd like to think RD and his team will have learned from this experience and will make make better decisions going forward regarding the players we let go and the players we bring in. That's my hope anyway, otherwise we really are in the doodah.
How much the club received from Bournemouth for him,
and how much we got for Dale Stephens?
How much did we pay for Stephens?
I've heard Yann was on £12,000 pw here, we then offered £10,000.
Bournemouth paying him £18,000 pw.
Would love to have any of this confirmed.
Doubt if any of us on here will ever get to know the real truth!
I think Airman as usual calls it right. Probably both sides not quite telling us the truth (although YK at least telling). I just do not believe based on everything I have seen on the pitch, and indeed based his apparent desire to set things straight with us, that YK is the type of footballer who would feign an injury (for his personal gain). I could believe it of Danny Mills for example...
Ego no not at all it's all about who is the boss and who makes the big decisions and how much influence your prepared to let one person have
There's a fair percentage of posters on here stating that CAFC have to pay the going rate. The real challenge for Duchatelet and this new network is whether there are players next season who show us some decent goal scoring ability and who sign up for jam tomorrow not jam today. Liege have recruited decent strikers like Batshuayi around three years ago who appears to be now worth £7m and is contracted to Liege until 2018. A lucky
find or can Duchatelet repeat this in SE7? The quicker he does, the quicker we climb the table next season and forget about all those strikers from 2011/12.
Letting Yann go was as much, if not more, about RD making it clear that he was the boss and was going to call the shots than it was about the merits or otherwise of the player.
He made that point very well but as we have seen he was cutting off his nose to spite his face.
Having made the big decision to move Yann on he had to get a suitable replacement in if the decision was to benefit him and CAFC.
He didn't so we are were were are. Imagine we'd signed up Stephens and Yann, kept Stewart AND signed Reza, Obika and AA. We'd be much stronger, would have more chance of staying up and so re-building the squad and club in summer.
It's going to be a rough ride with Roland for a few years at least IMO