Back home in Herefordshire. This group of players is not going to keep us up, Powell or no Powell. The main issue for me is that the build up was simply too slow. Loads of occasions where Cousins (I agree he is being played out of position) was in space waiting for a pass and then Morrison/Poyet played it backwards or sideways or simply waited too long. We simply aren't going to score enough goals unless we get some better players in. I wasn't happy when Yann was allowed to leave but I figured we had signed replacements. As this is clearly not the case then we need to sign them before the window closes. Danny Green is not the answer to any question you can think of. And as much as I love CP, why do we keep playing the ball in the air to forwards who are a foot shorter than their markers? So disappointed.
Dreadful performance and a kick in the teeth for the fans who spent so much time and money to watch us be outplayed by a mid-table Div 1 team. This Cousins thing on the right must stop now. It is ludicrous to play him there and CP is losing credibility with some of his decisions. I have sympathy, because he has been dicked around all season over finance and seen his best 2 players sold and replaced by nonentities. But playing youngsters so grossly out of their normal position is a nonsense. Need changes for Wednesday and a new attitude. No more fannying around hoping we might nick a goal and hold on.
Feeling a little mellower after a few pints and some grub in The Fat Cat, plus a swift one in the Sheffield Tap. Alcohol is a necessary crutch after that excruciating second half.
A scrappy old first half but we were well and truly turned over in the second by a far better side, who thoroughly deserved to progress to Wembley. Good luck to them against Hull.
Impotent up front and lacking creativity in midfield, it is difficult to see how we're going to secure the 6 or so wins that we need in the league.
Harriott's miss was a pivotal moment but no one can deny that we were, by some considerable distance, second best.
All is not yet lost but the odds are now against this threadbare squad amassing the points we need to stay in this division.
we were total shit if we don't get some one to stick the ball in the net we are going down come on Richard Murray you of all people must tell the owner what we need
Well I've waited a few hours and a beer to comment rather than say things in haste that I don't really mean/might regret after being up since five o'clock and driving 400 miles. If rather reflect. A bit and leave a considered comment. So here it is: That was utter shyte!!!!!
My heart sank when I saw that Astrit wasn't playing. Absolutely zero creativity despite Harriott trying hard. Let's get this straight. United are a run of the mill league 1 team, albeit one on a good run. They offered us a lot of respect in the first half and sat back to let us play. It took them about 20 minutes to realise that we are utter crap. Says something about our realistic level. Terrifying!!!!
The most inept front pairing I think I have ever seen. It's all been said about Church. Endeavour but no quality. The guy cannot kick a ball! Tudgay was utterly anonymous. Might as well have been standing with me in Jessica's upper! Poyet was made to look poor today by the absolute lack of movement in front of him. Never seen Wiggins play so poorly. cousins is a waste of a shirt out right. We know all this. Why cant our coaching staff see it?
Good day out despite it all. We sang and sang and even I managed to stand for 93 minutes. I went right before the end so can't comment on the booing etc.
Knackered. More beer and an early night beckons. Thank fcuk my season ticket for next year was cheap!
It is utterly pitiful that in front of a crowd of 30,000 and a widespread TV audience we are simply unable to score against a team who are in a division below us. Losing 2-0 is quite different from losing 3-2.
We had just one accurate shot at goal in the first half - Harriott's thirty-yarder straight at the keeper. Did we throw the kitchen sink at Sheffield United after those two quick goals? No - it was the Blades who looked far more likely to score a third. We were comprehensively done over by our inferiors.
Our midfield is weak and we lack the technical ability to pass or cross accurately to the strikers. I have watched Charlton for almost 50 years, and this failing - this inability to pass and move, to turn and accelerate - has shocked me over the last two seasons.
Shouldn't Reza have started, instead of Church? Would Ajdarevic have been strong and effective, powering forward from midfield? Accuracy, control, skill, muscle, guile, fleet-footed speed and rapier incision - where did all those lovely vital qualities go? We have scored only 24 goals in 30 league games, winning just six - and with popular support our manager is signing a new contract.
£206 for overnight accommodation £35 for match tickets £70 on Diesel Watching Charlton let the fans down for the umpteenth time serving up the same shit, different performance.... We'll, words cannot describe how I'm feeling at the moment.
Feel totally let down YET AGAIN. The seasons over for me. Relegation beckons and we might as well throw in the towel right now.
I'm simply not accepting the "asset stripping" excuse. Our worst player today has been rewarded with a new long-term contract. Neither RD not KM would have told home to doze off at the far post, contribute nothing going forward and at times look utterly inept.
The performance today was spineless. If we'd gone out in a cavalier do-or-die styles we might have bemoaned the naivity, but at least felt someone was having a go on our behalf. We showed at Hillsborough that we could put in a decent shift, there had been no player exits etc. since then.
We played like a team that has accepted it's fate, as regards both today and the rest of the season. Powell has to sort this out, and if he feels that he's been too handicapped to do so, he should step aside. Time for Chrissy to take the situation or leave it...
Terrible performance, but it's untrue to say we bottled it, as that would imply we've been playing well week after week, and this was a one off, which sadly isn't the case...
Zero creativity, our attacks were so slow, Church and Tudgay may not be much good, but the service they get is terrible, they feed on scraps, and by the time Reza came on, the service was even worse, so don't blame him.
Sheff Utd aren't in reality a mid table team, they're a team that had a terrible start to the season, but who are showing the top 6 form everyone would have expected from them. They looked confident, seeing those runs from Collins out of CB, we made him look like David Luiz!
Cousins was terrible, even allowing for the fact he's not a natural RM, his touch, passing and workrate were awful. Maybe it would have been better to swap Cousins and Wilson, and push Wilson further forward?
I am struggling to see how Roland's plan to break even through bringing through academy is going to work. If we don't acquire better players soon then the writing is on the wall for this season and probably next year too. Portsmouth anyone?
Alright I've calmed down now. I've come to the conclusion we are shit.
Everyone over looks the shit football we play when we pick up the odd result here and there but not me.
Today highlight the sort of football we try and play, actually the lack of football we try to play. Time after time we got the ball at the back and lumped it forward to the two strikers who can't head for their life's and that's where we relied on kermorgant, he time and time again would win the headers and hold it up. Now we don't have that big target man highlights the type of football we as a team have been playing and relying over the last two years or so.
We aren't capable of playing football to save our life's and I for one refuse to believe it's down to the fact Powell hasn't got the players at his disposal, as the football for large parts of the last 3 years has absolutely dire.
Just back in Gravesend. What a crap, crap day. I wasn't getting my hopes up but I expected more than that. I can't think of any positives, the worst thing for me is that we'll have the same utterly dejected feeling in 6 days most likely, with those bastards gloating.
We didn't make thaaat much noise either. Blades fans were alright, in the pub after I made sure I wished them luck and shook a few hands. A shame it wasn't us, I'd have been in that fountain outside the station.
Sheffield United. They were excellent, their crowd once they scored were terrific, their game plan, a red wall in the first half and do us in the second, worked perfectly. The ground was great, and I found SYP and their stewards to be very good despite that stupid funnel system leaving the ground. The weather was great, and the Blades fans I spoke to returning to the car were gracious and decent. I hope they win the cup.
The other positive was our turn out of fans.
I have tried to liken how I feel this evening to something, and it is a bit like how I felt after that televised defeat to Millwall when we played at Upton Park. We were pretty abject then and abject today, and I struggle to see how we can improve. Disappointed is not really an adequate word.
My thoughts also go out to Jessieaddick in China, and all those everywhere who made a supreme effort to experience all that, and they must be feeling gutted and ashamed.
If only Calum had scored that chance, if only.
What is there to say, defensive hesitation for the first, a deflection for the second, but make no mistake Sheffield United thoroughly deserved that, we deserved what we got.
The team? Well no striking threat, Cousins out of position and anonymous, lack of energy, and no talismanic figure, no one to get a grip of things, not much at all really.
For me Wilson was our best player, followed in order by Morrison, Poyet, Harriott, and Wood. They (and Hamer) were just about average, the rest were poor, and the team set up seemed wrong, and that is Chris Powell's responsibility, but if only the players had added 10% to their game for him it might have helped.
I have not read anything here, and I am sure it will be heavy with Powell critics, but I still wonder what more he could be doing, and who else would do better, and it is still Chris Powell to stay on for many years for me. One thing I have no doubt about, Chris won't be giggling and relaxed on his journey home, he will be feeling the pain too, but he and the players must get themselves up for Huddersfield on Wednesday, because there is no choice and no other way. Right now I would grab eagerly at a 0-0 on Wednesday.
Just got back to Clacton wot really pissed me off today was the fact most of us fans have been on the road since about 6.00 and the players just piss off down the tunnel and chris powell just standing there.We do this every time we take large amount of fans team just don't turn up.
Just got back from Sheffield and it was a beautiful day until a game of football broke out. For some reason I couldn't get excited about the game and wasn't surprised at the result but what was annoying was the performance, or lack of one. 2 shots on target aren't going to win you many games and I am struggling to think of one positive to take out of this one. Not taking anything away from United as they deserved to win. For 60 odd minutes we weren't really troubled but as soon as they went 1 up we crumbled and they were in total control and you just had the feeling that a second wasn't far off. As one fella summed it up on the way to the station "Typical Charlton." Onto the league and Huddersfield on wednesday night and boy do we need a performance from this lot. 48 points to play for and we need to make these games in hand count but at the moment we have the look of team on its knees. Nice to see Robbie Elliott at Sheffield station and looking just as glum as us!!!
That was a thoroughly abject performance. We were outplayed, out-thought and out-fought. We will never get a better chance of reaching a cup semi final and we allowed a third level team to give us a football lesson.
In terms of what was at stake, todays performance ranks with the worst in my forty plus years of supporting Charlton. Even their burgers were better than ours!
Well at least this diversion from the main task in hand is over. Travelled up more in hope then expectation as we really are set up appallingly by a manager who takes far, far too long to correct errors made in team selection. I have not met or seen anyone post on this forum in the last month who thinks Cousins on the right is a good idea.
I had my rant at the VIP meeting on Thursday, about the clueless Belgium's reducing our survival chances in the January transfer window after removing 3 established first teamers and replacing them with shit foreign mercenaries (or for AlgarveAddicks benefit - hired (blank firing) guns). When I said we should never have sold Yann and replaced him with rubbish, Powell looked down at the floor. He knows this is the case and was not what he wanted to happen.
Mick Gebbit complained I was unfairly giving Katrien a hard time. Well tough, the truth hurts. Furthermore, the overwhelming majority love Murray and Powell and this intransigence stops reasonable debate from taking place. Powell really does play the disappointed for our fans card well, but his position should come under far greater scrutiny now.
We are a set up to spoil side and I see no attacking plans, hence we resort too often to hoofball. Invariably if we go a goal down, it is game over. This time next week we could be as good as down. I have no reason to think that spineless performance today will not be repeated next Saturday at the New Den.
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The main issue for me is that the build up was simply too slow. Loads of occasions where Cousins (I agree he is being played out of position) was in space waiting for a pass and then Morrison/Poyet played it backwards or sideways or simply waited too long.
We simply aren't going to score enough goals unless we get some better players in. I wasn't happy when Yann was allowed to leave but I figured we had signed replacements. As this is clearly not the case then we need to sign them before the window closes.
Danny Green is not the answer to any question you can think of.
And as much as I love CP, why do we keep playing the ball in the air to forwards who are a foot shorter than their markers?
So disappointed.
This Cousins thing on the right must stop now. It is ludicrous to play him there and CP is losing credibility with some of his decisions.
I have sympathy, because he has been dicked around all season over finance and seen his best 2 players sold and replaced by nonentities.
But playing youngsters so grossly out of their normal position is a nonsense.
Need changes for Wednesday and a new attitude. No more fannying around hoping we might nick a goal and hold on.
A scrappy old first half but we were well and truly turned over in the second by a far better side, who thoroughly deserved to progress to Wembley. Good luck to them against Hull.
Impotent up front and lacking creativity in midfield, it is difficult to see how we're going to secure the 6 or so wins that we need in the league.
Harriott's miss was a pivotal moment but no one can deny that we were, by some considerable distance, second best.
All is not yet lost but the odds are now against this threadbare squad amassing the points we need to stay in this division.
My heart sank when I saw that Astrit wasn't playing. Absolutely zero creativity despite Harriott trying hard. Let's get this straight. United are a run of the mill league 1 team, albeit one on a good run. They offered us a lot of respect in the first half and sat back to let us play. It took them about 20 minutes to realise that we are utter crap. Says something about our realistic level. Terrifying!!!!
The most inept front pairing I think I have ever seen. It's all been said about Church. Endeavour but no quality. The guy cannot kick a ball! Tudgay was utterly anonymous. Might as well have been standing with me in Jessica's upper! Poyet was made to look poor today by the absolute lack of movement in front of him. Never seen Wiggins play so poorly. cousins is a waste of a shirt out right. We know all this. Why cant our coaching staff see it?
Good day out despite it all. We sang and sang and even I managed to stand for 93 minutes. I went right before the end so can't comment on the booing etc.
Knackered. More beer and an early night beckons. Thank fcuk my season ticket for next year was cheap!
We won't stay up without a miracle.
Embarrassed by our performance.
We had just one accurate shot at goal in the first half - Harriott's thirty-yarder straight at the keeper. Did we throw the kitchen sink at Sheffield United after those two quick goals? No - it was the Blades who looked far more likely to score a third. We were comprehensively done over by our inferiors.
Our midfield is weak and we lack the technical ability to pass or cross accurately to the strikers. I have watched Charlton for almost 50 years, and this failing - this inability to pass and move, to turn and accelerate - has shocked me over the last two seasons.
Shouldn't Reza have started, instead of Church? Would Ajdarevic have been strong and effective, powering forward from midfield? Accuracy, control, skill, muscle, guile, fleet-footed speed and rapier incision - where did all those lovely vital qualities go? We have scored only 24 goals in 30 league games, winning just six - and with popular support our manager is signing a new contract.
This is simply not good enough.
£35 for match tickets
£70 on Diesel
Watching Charlton let the fans down for the umpteenth time serving up the same shit, different performance.... We'll, words cannot describe how I'm feeling at the moment.
Feel totally let down YET AGAIN. The seasons over for me. Relegation beckons and we might as well throw in the towel right now.
The performance today was spineless. If we'd gone out in a cavalier do-or-die styles we might have bemoaned the naivity, but at least felt someone was having a go on our behalf. We showed at Hillsborough that we could put in a decent shift, there had been no player exits etc. since then.
We played like a team that has accepted it's fate, as regards both today and the rest of the season. Powell has to sort this out, and if he feels that he's been too handicapped to do so, he should step aside. Time for Chrissy to take the situation or leave it...
Zero creativity, our attacks were so slow, Church and Tudgay may not be much good, but the service they get is terrible, they feed on scraps, and by the time Reza came on, the service was even worse, so don't blame him.
Sheff Utd aren't in reality a mid table team, they're a team that had a terrible start to the season, but who are showing the top 6 form everyone would have expected from them. They looked confident, seeing those runs from Collins out of CB, we made him look like David Luiz!
Cousins was terrible, even allowing for the fact he's not a natural RM, his touch, passing and workrate were awful. Maybe it would have been better to swap Cousins and Wilson, and push Wilson further forward?
Everyone over looks the shit football we play when we pick up the odd result here and there but not me.
Today highlight the sort of football we try and play, actually the lack of football we try to play. Time after time we got the ball at the back and lumped it forward to the two strikers who can't head for their life's and that's where we relied on kermorgant, he time and time again would win the headers and hold it up. Now we don't have that big target man highlights the type of football we as a team have been playing and relying over the last two years or so.
We aren't capable of playing football to save our life's and I for one refuse to believe it's down to the fact Powell hasn't got the players at his disposal, as the football for large parts of the last 3 years has absolutely dire.
We were id rather go to work!
Really bad?
We didn't make thaaat much noise either. Blades fans were alright, in the pub after I made sure I wished them luck and shook a few hands. A shame it wasn't us, I'd have been in that fountain outside the station.
First the positives.
Sheffield United. They were excellent, their crowd once they scored were terrific, their game plan, a red wall in the first half and do us in the second, worked perfectly. The ground was great, and I found SYP and their stewards to be very good despite that stupid funnel system leaving the ground. The weather was great, and the Blades fans I spoke to returning to the car were gracious and decent. I hope they win the cup.
The other positive was our turn out of fans.
I have tried to liken how I feel this evening to something, and it is a bit like how I felt after that televised defeat to Millwall when we played at Upton Park. We were pretty abject then and abject today, and I struggle to see how we can improve. Disappointed is not really an adequate word.
My thoughts also go out to Jessieaddick in China, and all those everywhere who made a supreme effort to experience all that, and they must be feeling gutted and ashamed.
If only Calum had scored that chance, if only.
What is there to say, defensive hesitation for the first, a deflection for the second, but make no mistake Sheffield United thoroughly deserved that, we deserved what we got.
The team? Well no striking threat, Cousins out of position and anonymous, lack of energy, and no talismanic figure, no one to get a grip of things, not much at all really.
For me Wilson was our best player, followed in order by Morrison, Poyet, Harriott, and Wood. They (and Hamer) were just about average, the rest were poor, and the team set up seemed wrong, and that is Chris Powell's responsibility, but if only the players had added 10% to their game for him it might have helped.
I have not read anything here, and I am sure it will be heavy with Powell critics, but I still wonder what more he could be doing, and who else would do better, and it is still Chris Powell to stay on for many years for me. One thing I have no doubt about, Chris won't be giggling and relaxed on his journey home, he will be feeling the pain too, but he and the players must get themselves up for Huddersfield on Wednesday, because there is no choice and no other way. Right now I would grab eagerly at a 0-0 on Wednesday.
That's it.
In terms of what was at stake, todays performance ranks with the worst in my forty plus years of supporting Charlton. Even their burgers were better than ours!
I had my rant at the VIP meeting on Thursday, about the clueless Belgium's reducing our survival chances in the January transfer window after removing 3 established first teamers and replacing them with shit foreign mercenaries (or for AlgarveAddicks benefit - hired (blank firing) guns). When I said we should never have sold Yann and replaced him with rubbish, Powell looked down at the floor. He knows this is the case and was not what he wanted to happen.
Mick Gebbit complained I was unfairly giving Katrien a hard time. Well tough, the truth hurts. Furthermore, the overwhelming majority love Murray and Powell and this intransigence stops reasonable debate from taking place. Powell really does play the disappointed for our fans card well, but his position should come under far greater scrutiny now.
We are a set up to spoil side and I see no attacking plans, hence we resort too often to hoofball. Invariably if we go a goal down, it is game over. This time next week we could be as good as down. I have no reason to think that spineless performance today will not be repeated next Saturday at the New Den.