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What is it with the accusations of dodgy dealing with the postponement? We've done it twice this season and both with considerably less notice than yesterday. We are making ourselves look like mugs here.5
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From another Club that tried to get him in on loan.oohaahmortimer said:
50k a week ??? Really where's that come fromAddickted said:
Playing your youth team in is frugal.owlsonlineadmin said:
As for bringing players in, we've relied on freebies and loanees to remain being quite frugal.Addickted said:
Like our excuses for the broken drainage under the pitch, I just don't accept that as an excuse. And like us, you've had several years to resolve the situation and haven't.owlsonlineadmin said:When we got flooded in 2007 it absolutely destroyed both the drainage and the under soil heating, a reported 4m will be needed to rectify this, I'm not sure many clubs could afford that outlay when most of the time it isn't needed.
You are a professional football club and without a pitch to play on, the whole raison d'etre for your club disappears.
I expect that on average, the loan players you've had in this year are costing 500k a year each, plus the loan fees - and you've actually bought in 21 new players into the club this season. Several of these players (most of the time) haven't been needed.
Bringing in players like Connor Wickham, who cost you £50k a week in loan fees and salary whilst he was with you isn't.
£25k a week wages and £25k a week loan fee - for the period of his loan at Wednesday.stonewallpenalty said:
I think thats a number picked randomly.oohaahmortimer said:
50k a week ??? Really where's that come fromAddickted said:
Playing your youth team in is frugal.owlsonlineadmin said:
As for bringing players in, we've relied on freebies and loanees to remain being quite frugal.Addickted said:
Like our excuses for the broken drainage under the pitch, I just don't accept that as an excuse. And like us, you've had several years to resolve the situation and haven't.owlsonlineadmin said:When we got flooded in 2007 it absolutely destroyed both the drainage and the under soil heating, a reported 4m will be needed to rectify this, I'm not sure many clubs could afford that outlay when most of the time it isn't needed.
You are a professional football club and without a pitch to play on, the whole raison d'etre for your club disappears.
I expect that on average, the loan players you've had in this year are costing 500k a year each, plus the loan fees - and you've actually bought in 21 new players into the club this season. Several of these players (most of the time) haven't been needed.
Bringing in players like Connor Wickham, who cost you £50k a week in loan fees and salary whilst he was with you isn't.
Did he? Sunderland wanted more than that in a loan fee. To be fair though they are a PL Club, so perhaps you got a discount.owlsonlineadmin said:
50k a week? Ha ha yer off yer tree.Addickted said:
Playing your youth team in is frugal.owlsonlineadmin said:
As for bringing players in, we've relied on freebies and loanees to remain being quite frugal.Addickted said:
Like our excuses for the broken drainage under the pitch, I just don't accept that as an excuse. And like us, you've had several years to resolve the situation and haven't.owlsonlineadmin said:When we got flooded in 2007 it absolutely destroyed both the drainage and the under soil heating, a reported 4m will be needed to rectify this, I'm not sure many clubs could afford that outlay when most of the time it isn't needed.
You are a professional football club and without a pitch to play on, the whole raison d'etre for your club disappears.
I expect that on average, the loan players you've had in this year are costing 500k a year each, plus the loan fees - and you've actually bought in 21 new players into the club this season. Several of these players (most of the time) haven't been needed.
Bringing in players like Connor Wickham, who cost you £50k a week in loan fees and salary whilst he was with you isn't.
He cost us less than 10k a week.
Or Milan used his Clubcard vouchers.
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****Pitch inspection 10.30am****Postponed****
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What is more worrying is that I truly believe that you're been serious with this post!....that is a concern.vff said:Not read through the whole thread, but it appears to me that the Wendies did not make a huge amount of effort for this game to go ahead. Maybe that had something to do with the number of injuries and integrating the new loanees into the squad ?
If Rotheram in League One can go ahead then the Wendies game should be going ahead.
Charlton knew the rain situation against Birmingham and even with completely fecked drainage the covers went on, Paddy the groundsman got the pitch ready. The Massives have got a big injury list, and is as we know is a massive club and Hillsborough a top notch state of the art ground. Where's the covers ? Was the rain going to be that heavy during the game ?
I don't know if OP and Owls Admin have acknowledged it earlier but it does look like the Massives were trying to avoid the fixture.
Okay how do you explain this then, Charlton had covers on v Barnsley, removed them at 1.30 and it still got called off?? you guys had a few injuries that day too remember?
Big conspiracy going on somewhere isn't there, do you actually think Wednesday want a fixture pile up at this stage of the season?
Get a grip lads!
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The Charlton pitch has serious drainage problems. Hillsborough has no drainage problems. The situation is completely different. Where were the covers for this game ? Rotherham got their game on and they are just round the corner. I think Mandaric is looking for the best possible situation for the tie regarding injuries and getting the new loan players up to speed.
Thats football, the Massives should be honest about it. Trying to reflect back to the Charlton situation to deflect on what happened yesterday is not on. Owls and OP need to concentrate on what happened yesterday.
A few years back after Charlton beat Chelsea 4-2 at the Valley, Chelsea choose to relay their pitch, sand it and not share that with Charlton. Chelsea players had the right footwear and turned Charlton over. Massive teams take whatever advantage they can to win games.
Wendies want the best situation possible.1 -
How do you know we haven't got drainage problems? as it happens we have.vff said:The Charlton pitch has serious drainage problems. Hillsborough has no drainage problems. The situation is completely different. Where were the covers for this game ? Rotherham got their game on and they are just round the corner. I think Mandaric is looking for the best possible situation for the tie regarding injuries and getting the new loan players up to speed.
Thats football, the Massives should be honest about it. Trying to reflect back to the Charlton situation, is not good as it is completely different.
Covers wasn't needed on Friday, some rain was due but the forecast said it would die out on Sat.
Clattenburg called it off.
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It's fair to criticise for lack of covers and have a moan about the ref turning up so late etc.O-Randy-Hunt said:Like the way some of our fans dig our own club when we had the barnsley game called off, saying 'we are embarrassing'. 'Hope the fa throw the book at us'. 'Dock us points'.
Yet the minute it happens to us at other clubs is 'Pot calling kettle black'. 'We can't say anything with our problems'. 'We cant give anyone grief for games getting called off'
I probably had a pop at our own club for that barnsley game but you are allowed to still get angry and have a pop when it is another club.
However calling them a tinpot club and two bob when we've had a Sunday league pitch for 2 years is a bit hypocritical.3 -
Oh, all the referees fault then. Nothing to do with the Wendies. Not unhappy about the game being called off though eh OP ?0
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Only looking for a Miguel clearanceoperationpig said:vff said:The Charlton pitch has serious drainage problems. Hillsborough has no drainage problems. The situation is completely different. Where were the covers for this game ? Rotherham got their game on and they are just round the corner. I think Mandaric is looking for the best possible situation for the tie regarding injuries and getting the new loan players up to speed.
Thats football, the Massives should be honest about it. Trying to reflect back to the Charlton situation, is not good as it is completely different.
Did men really land on the moon? I'll let you decide.5 -
If you care to look back through this thread I have stated I wanted the game on, I really think this fixture pile up isn't going to help any of us, fair enough both of us have 2/3 games in hand over everyone but you really have to win them games to achieve anything adding more pressure to it, can have a negative effect as well, also having two games a week for about a month just adds to problems with potential injuries etc, so no....in that respect I'd have wanted the game on, some of our injuries are long term anyway Semedo, Gardner etc.vff said:Oh, all the referees fault then. Nothing to do with the Wendies. Not unhappy about the game being called off though eh OP ?
Everton got called off the other night v Palace, as did Man C, I've been all the way to Gillingham in the past to find it was off, so ended up at WHU, it happens.
One good thing to come out of it, we're both in the bag and we can still talk about ale and trams.
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I'm in Wakefield waiting for a train with a crap hangover. I'm done with Sheffield.0
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You poor poor man. You have my utmost sympathy. I hope you had your vaccinations prior to entering Upton Park?operationpig said:I've been all the way to Gillingham in the past to find it was off, so ended up at WHU, it happens...
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Wednesday should resign from the cup.0
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We got as far as Derby yesterday when we heard the news.
Got off there, quick pint in the Brunswick, train back to London, onto the Axe, then Browns, a few Tina Turners, cab home, battered.
Was a good day out with mates. Who needs the football?1 -
Didn't bother reading the whole thread. Not sure I can be.
Happy to see Charlton and Wednesday in the QF draw. It will make the prize for the game more interesting. Charlton have a few more days refine the strategy, integrate the new players and take the QF prize from the Massives.
To ales and trams. Happy to agree on that.
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sat with head steward, a Forest fan, he said no way when he arrived at 80
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Owls - how's the injury situation? All ok for the rearranged game? Cool.owlsonlineadmin said:sat with head steward, a Forest fan, he said no way when he arrived at 8
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Ffs. Lighten up mucca. Im sure the odd few calling them tin pot and 2 bob are having a bit of a joke.SELR_addicks said:
It's fair to criticise for lack of covers and have a moan about the ref turning up so late etc.O-Randy-Hunt said:Like the way some of our fans dig our own club when we had the barnsley game called off, saying 'we are embarrassing'. 'Hope the fa throw the book at us'. 'Dock us points'.
Yet the minute it happens to us at other clubs is 'Pot calling kettle black'. 'We can't say anything with our problems'. 'We cant give anyone grief for games getting called off'
I probably had a pop at our own club for that barnsley game but you are allowed to still get angry and have a pop when it is another club.
However calling them a tinpot club and two bob when we've had a Sunday league pitch for 2 years is a bit hypocritical.2 -
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Conspiracy theory regarding Massives' injuries overlooks the fact that we benefit by Wiggins having an extra week's recovery. Plus Hamer, possible loanees....0
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Yes on Wiggins and Hamer, but no loanees will be able to play as they weren't registered for original game.0
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The trophy is ours0
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You ain't, your going back for the 1/4 final!RedPanda said:I'm in Wakefield waiting for a train with a crap hangover. I'm done with Sheffield.
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You've said it yourself there, if there was any inkling of rain why on earth would you not put the covers on? Not your fault obviously and I doubt the conspiracy theory, but that is a cock up from the groundsmen.operationpig said:
How do you know we haven't got drainage problems? as it happens we have.vff said:The Charlton pitch has serious drainage problems. Hillsborough has no drainage problems. The situation is completely different. Where were the covers for this game ? Rotherham got their game on and they are just round the corner. I think Mandaric is looking for the best possible situation for the tie regarding injuries and getting the new loan players up to speed.
Thats football, the Massives should be honest about it. Trying to reflect back to the Charlton situation, is not good as it is completely different.
Covers wasn't needed on Friday, some rain was due but the forecast said it would die out on Sat.
Clattenburg called it off.
Did men really land on the moon? I'll let you decide.
Our pitch is sh*t and is touch and go even in the dry. Yours could've been played on had the correct precautions been taken. That's my view of it.
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Lets move on eh?Croydon said:
You've said it yourself there, if there was any inkling of rain why on earth would you not put the covers on? Not your fault obviously and I doubt the conspiracy theory, but that is a cock up from the groundsmen.operationpig said:
How do you know we haven't got drainage problems? as it happens we have.vff said:The Charlton pitch has serious drainage problems. Hillsborough has no drainage problems. The situation is completely different. Where were the covers for this game ? Rotherham got their game on and they are just round the corner. I think Mandaric is looking for the best possible situation for the tie regarding injuries and getting the new loan players up to speed.
Thats football, the Massives should be honest about it. Trying to reflect back to the Charlton situation, is not good as it is completely different.
Covers wasn't needed on Friday, some rain was due but the forecast said it would die out on Sat.
Clattenburg called it off.
Did men really land on the moon? I'll let you decide.
Our pitch is sh*t and is touch and go even in the dry. Yours could've been played on had the correct precautions been taken. That's my view of it.
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Not being funny, but don't see why we should move on!
This is a Charlton forum.0 -
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Where would you like us to move on to?operationpig said:
Lets move on eh?Croydon said:
You've said it yourself there, if there was any inkling of rain why on earth would you not put the covers on? Not your fault obviously and I doubt the conspiracy theory, but that is a cock up from the groundsmen.operationpig said:
How do you know we haven't got drainage problems? as it happens we have.vff said:The Charlton pitch has serious drainage problems. Hillsborough has no drainage problems. The situation is completely different. Where were the covers for this game ? Rotherham got their game on and they are just round the corner. I think Mandaric is looking for the best possible situation for the tie regarding injuries and getting the new loan players up to speed.
Thats football, the Massives should be honest about it. Trying to reflect back to the Charlton situation, is not good as it is completely different.
Covers wasn't needed on Friday, some rain was due but the forecast said it would die out on Sat.
Clattenburg called it off.
Did men really land on the moon? I'll let you decide.
Our pitch is sh*t and is touch and go even in the dry. Yours could've been played on had the correct precautions been taken. That's my view of it.0