that is the same quinn who we were after last summer isn't it? he did really well at hull, would be surprised if we got him, was quality when at sheff united when we won the league
If we offered to cover Wickham's wages in full then there is obviously money available. You can't blame RD if the players don't want to come.
I agree, I think our position in the league (which has not much changed under the new ownership) is putting players off, when it comes to similar wages between even a comfortably mid-table team and one possible/probable to go down, most would choose the first, understandably so. The only way we could realistically overcome such a discrepancy is to throw lots of money at players, which not only goes against RD's stated principles of responsible/miserly (delete as you see fit) ownership but also against the ethos of Chris Powell and the club's tradition of a team that believe in the cause, and each other, and not in a big fat paycheque.
If we offered to cover Wickham's wages in full then there is obviously money available. You can't blame RD if the players don't want to come.
You can blame him for approaching players who do not want to play for us. Tell CP the wage cap he has to get someone in and let him and his scouting team do the rest of the work. RD can look generous all he wants but the fact is apart from PP who is an investment into the future (a player into their network who he can move about) he has not spent any money on us, infact he's made money.
If we offered to cover Wickham's wages in full then there is obviously money available. You can't blame RD if the players don't want to come.
You can blame him for approaching players who do not want to play for us. Tell CP the wage cap he has to get someone in and let him and his scouting team do the rest of the work. RD can look generous all he wants but the fact is apart from PP who is an investment into the future (a player into their network who he can move about) he has not spent any money on us, infact he's made money.
Made money. How exactly ? Please think before you write.
If we offered to cover Wickham's wages in full then there is obviously money available. You can't blame RD if the players don't want to come.
You can blame him for approaching players who do not want to play for us. Tell CP the wage cap he has to get someone in and let him and his scouting team do the rest of the work. RD can look generous all he wants but the fact is apart from PP who is an investment into the future (a player into their network who he can move about) he has not spent any money on us, infact he's made money.
Really? Really, truly? Do you actually think he draws up a list of possible transfers then crosses off all the ones who might actually sign? Because if you do, then you really need to think again. If his plan was to deliberately get the club relegated, he would have made no signings whatsoever, Reza, Astrid, Thuram, Polish Pete and Nego, they would not have been signed at all. Perhaps there were targets we were/are unable to land... but he sure as hell did not do that on purpose.
If we offered to cover Wickham's wages in full then there is obviously money available. You can't blame RD if the players don't want to come.
You can blame him for approaching players who do not want to play for us. Tell CP the wage cap he has to get someone in and let him and his scouting team do the rest of the work. RD can look generous all he wants but the fact is apart from PP who is an investment into the future (a player into their network who he can move about) he has not spent any money on us, infact he's made money.
I'll have some of what you've been smoking. How the hell has he made any money? He sold Yann and Stephens for probably 600k max. The club cost 14m, the cover cost however much a week to hire, the club costs however much a month to run etc etc.
OTT reaction to what Atletico has written. He/ she is a fan expressing frustration at the lack of investment in the squad that may well see us relegated. Okay the comment may be wide of the mark but is it necessary to belittle those we don't agree with?
If we offered to cover Wickham's wages in full then there is obviously money available. You can't blame RD if the players don't want to come.
You can blame him for approaching players who do not want to play for us. Tell CP the wage cap he has to get someone in and let him and his scouting team do the rest of the work. RD can look generous all he wants but the fact is apart from PP who is an investment into the future (a player into their network who he can move about) he has not spent any money on us, infact he's made money.
I'll have some of what you've been smoking. How the hell has he made any money? He sold Yann and Stephens for probably 600k max. The club cost 14m, the cover cost however much a week to hire, the club costs however much a month to run etc etc.
If we offered to cover Wickham's wages in full then there is obviously money available. You can't blame RD if the players don't want to come.
You can blame him for approaching players who do not want to play for us. Tell CP the wage cap he has to get someone in and let him and his scouting team do the rest of the work. RD can look generous all he wants but the fact is apart from PP who is an investment into the future (a player into their network who he can move about) he has not spent any money on us, infact he's made money.
I'll have some of what you've been smoking. How the hell has he made any money? He sold Yann and Stephens for probably 600k max. The club cost 14m, the cover cost however much a week to hire, the club costs however much a month to run etc etc.
The most ridiculous comment I have read for ages.
Plus he bought Pete
Danny, Pete who ? The lad from Poland who looks quite cheerful and full of beans on Charlton player but not ready for the Championship this season ?
Sadly ValleyMick - it is not - we have had a whole plethora of jaundiced comments about the club, its owner, the board, its staff over the past week to the point you wonder whether some people actually support the club at all. Some of it from people who should really know better. The club is almost becoming a vehicle for some sort of perverse anger therapy. To suggest someone is actually making money out of the club when we are losing circa £100k a week is wrong, but unfortunately there are far too many whose understanding of club finances is not only sadly lacking it is almost deliberately so.
I get the impression at the first sign of "reality", some people close their eyes, stick their fingers in their ears and sing "la. la, la" very, very loudly.
We keenly await a Cup quarter final on Sunday. As we cheer our 11 - 14 lads on the pitch, and our acknowledge the managerial entourage can we reflect, based on the revenue the club generates, we can barely afford a single one of them. The weekly salary of 14-18 players, the manager, his assistant, the coach, the physio., and support staff will cost circa £90 - 100k, the average loss RD will pick up each & every week we trade.
If he did not some people would literally have absolutely nothing to complain about.
The issue G49 is that through the lack of a coherent short term expediency plan, we now face a greater chance of League 1 football than we did prior to the January transfer window. If this happens RD will be picking up a larger tab next season, which makes no business sense at all.
If you think the team is stronger now than it was on 28th January than please enlighten me.
OTT reaction to what Atletico has written. He/ she is a fan expressing frustration at the lack of investment in the squad that may well see us relegated. Okay the comment may be wide of the mark but is it necessary to belittle those we don't agree with?
Well it is factually and provably wrong. If any money has been made at all it would be a pittance at best. There is no issue with discussing the pros and cons of RD's approach, but when you are wrong as to what that actually is, then prepare to be corrected, frankly.
also if i'm right in thinking that when RD took over Liege he
1. Sold their two best players (sound familiar?) 2. Replaced them with a bunch of unknown youngsters (hmmmmm) 3. Fans got all crazy and angry about it (i say nothing....) 4. Sacked the manager and brought in his own (depends on CP resolving the 'footballing' issues) 5. Topped the league the next year (I'll have a bit of that!)
maybe just maybe he has got a formula that works......
If we offered to cover Wickham's wages in full then there is obviously money available. You can't blame RD if the players don't want to come.
You can blame him for approaching players who do not want to play for us. Tell CP the wage cap he has to get someone in and let him and his scouting team do the rest of the work. RD can look generous all he wants but the fact is apart from PP who is an investment into the future (a player into their network who he can move about) he has not spent any money on us, infact he's made money.
I'll have some of what you've been smoking. How the hell has he made any money? He sold Yann and Stephens for probably 600k max. The club cost 14m, the cover cost however much a week to hire, the club costs however much a month to run etc etc.
The most ridiculous comment I have read for ages.
Plus he bought Pete
Danny, Pete who ? The lad from Poland who looks quite cheerful and full of beans on Charlton player but not ready for the Championship this season ?
Yes. Only mentioned him because he had a fee attached.
If we offered to cover Wickham's wages in full then there is obviously money available. You can't blame RD if the players don't want to come.
You can blame him for approaching players who do not want to play for us. Tell CP the wage cap he has to get someone in and let him and his scouting team do the rest of the work. RD can look generous all he wants but the fact is apart from PP who is an investment into the future (a player into their network who he can move about) he has not spent any money on us, infact he's made money.
I'll have some of what you've been smoking. How the hell has he made any money? He sold Yann and Stephens for probably 600k max. The club cost 14m, the cover cost however much a week to hire, the club costs however much a month to run etc etc.
The most ridiculous comment I have read for ages.
Plus he bought Pete
Danny, Pete who ? The lad from Poland who looks quite cheerful and full of beans on Charlton player but not ready for the Championship this season ?
Yes. Only mentioned him because he had a fee attached.
I can understand the disappointment following the takeover, we would have liked to see loads of money flood into the club and new players brought in, but what does surprise me is the venom with which some seem to feel about the new management and by default the impression that they would rather have MS and TJ in control. After any takeover there is always a level of turbulence as the new owners discover the reality that they have brought into and yes it may lead to Div1 football, but lets not judge the new owners on the time since January, take stock, be irritated but judge by their actions over the next 3, 6 and 18 months. The reality is they could be the best thing that ever happened to us or the worst .. we just don't know, but they are suffering currently from the legacy they inherited and maybe from a degree of naivety.
I can understand the disappointment following the takeover, we would have liked to see loads of money flood into the club and new players brought in, but what does surprise me is the venom with which some seem to feel about the new management and by default the impression that they would rather have MS and TJ in control. After any takeover there is always a level of turbulence as the new owners discover the reality that they have brought into and yes it may lead to Div1 football, but lets not judge the new owners on the time since January, take stock, be irritated but judge by their actions over the next 3, 6 and 18 months. The reality is they could be the best thing that ever happened to us or the worst .. we just don't know, but they are suffering currently from the legacy they inherited and maybe from a degree of naivety.
Well said Kap, I couldn't agree more. This is a long-term project for RD & whether we are relegated or not this year won't really affect the plan, although obviously he would rather avoid it, if only for personal pride. The previous owners left him a huge amount of crap to sort out & RD and his team are new to English football, so it's really not surprising that they are still coming to terms with what the club needs. As I've said before, this year may be a write-off, but I have great confidence in the longer term future of the club under RD's ownership.
also if i'm right in thinking that when RD took over Liege he
1. Sold their two best players (sound familiar?) 2. Replaced them with a bunch of unknown youngsters (hmmmmm) 3. Fans got all crazy and angry about it (i say nothing....) 4. Sacked the manager and brought in his own (depends on CP resolving the 'footballing' issues) 5. Topped the league the next year (I'll have a bit of that!)
maybe just maybe he has got a formula that works......
It's possible - but it seems just as likely that maybe he got lucky once but now thinks the same 'formula' will work everywhere (I believe that his 'other' Belgium team recently got relegated?).
I've heard RD is interested in a 9 year old Latvian lad, who could be a world class goalkeeper & he wants to do a swap for Chris Solly who he feels is not contributing at this point in time.
Cmon, do you really think there is going to be any loan signings ?? Of course there isnt. Duchatelet doesnt care about us or the club - all he cares about is making money. As mentioned lots of times, if there was any hint of 'care' then Kermy/Stephens and Alnwick wouldnt hjave been sold. He dosent care about us or the team - all he cares about is bringing along youth that he can then sell at a profit.
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The most ridiculous comment I have read for ages.
I get the impression at the first sign of "reality", some people close their eyes, stick their fingers in their ears and sing "la. la, la" very, very loudly.
We keenly await a Cup quarter final on Sunday. As we cheer our 11 - 14 lads on the pitch, and our acknowledge the managerial entourage can we reflect, based on the revenue the club generates, we can barely afford a single one of them. The weekly salary of 14-18 players, the manager, his assistant, the coach, the physio., and support staff will cost circa £90 - 100k, the average loss RD will pick up each & every week we trade.
If he did not some people would literally have absolutely nothing to complain about.
The issue G49 is that through the lack of a coherent short term expediency plan, we now face a greater chance of League 1 football than we did prior to the January transfer window. If this happens RD will be picking up a larger tab next season, which makes no business sense at all.
If you think the team is stronger now than it was on 28th January than please enlighten me.
another four pages of whether RD is great/a knob
1. Sold their two best players (sound familiar?)
2. Replaced them with a bunch of unknown youngsters (hmmmmm)
3. Fans got all crazy and angry about it (i say nothing....)
4. Sacked the manager and brought in his own (depends on CP resolving the 'footballing' issues)
5. Topped the league the next year (I'll have a bit of that!)
maybe just maybe he has got a formula that works......
All part of the long term master plan.
We're on the up.
Duchatelet doesnt care about us or the club - all he cares about is making money. As mentioned lots of times, if there was any hint of 'care' then Kermy/Stephens and Alnwick wouldnt hjave been sold.
He dosent care about us or the team - all he cares about is bringing along youth that he can then sell at a profit.