Can someone tell me why we let Ben Alnwick go? As a season ticket holder have not seem him have a bad game. Perhaps Richard Murray can explain, that's if he has any say at the club still. Really feel sorry for Chris Powell and hope he can turn this round despite the new owners!
This is the 'Moneyball' tactic ... (if you saw the movie/read the book) .. the owner/general manager, when he disagreed with the team manager's selections, merely move the player in question on to another club .. if the owner wants someone in the side but does not want to sack the manager .. just move the disputed player out the door ... selection problem solved .. I wonder if both our ex Keepers, Alnwick & Button will be playing in the Champ next season and our new 'star' keeper will be down in the 1st
This is spot on and how it will be from now on.
The continental style of management allied to the Moneyball concept. Whoever picks the team is the coach and the management chooses the players. If we are still losing 7 mill a year RD is setting about reducing overheads.
I doubt if CP will fall into line with this way of working. IMO he's working out his contract and the new coach will be in during the summer.
The squad as it looks at the moment is heading for League One.
The Moneyball approach is based on in-depth data and statistics which influenced player recruitment. It wasn't based on an owner farming out rejects from one of his other sports teams to the other. It wasn't based on getting rid of the three best players and not replacing them. It wasn't based on undermining the head coach. This is not a Moneyball approach. I doubt RD has ever heard of it.
As I understand it the Alnwick and Kermorgant deals would be viewed positively within the money ball concept.
Both players were signed on frees , did a good job for us and have now been sold for some sort of fee. We probably made money on Stephens also.
At the start of last week I was resigned to losing Stephens , felt it was inevitable that Yann would go but hoped Wiggins would stay. The sale of Alnwick was a bolt out of the blue and it particularly concerns me that Hamer is still out injured and Pope is on loan.
Don't laugh but maybe we need another keeper on loan as cover because I do not think we can recall Pope because the rules are different to when he was on a 28 day loan.
Except Moneyball isn't all about making money is it? It's about improving team performance. I don't see how that will happen by selling the core of our first XI.
Was Cousins really playing on the right? From the commentary it sounded like we were playing a diamond midfield.
Definitely playing on the right, our best CM playing out of position!
Unfortunately, this is something Powell seems to be quite keen on over last season and this. I know people don't rate Green, but I'm all for having players play in their natural positions. I think when Wilson comes back from suspension, he'll be right wing, Nego right back. But it is frustrating because how many times did we have to put up with Pritchard out on the right. Similar problem on the left. Harriott is out of favour, so we have a number of different options being tested. Stewart was a naturally wide player, but we had to put up with him playing on the left as a right footer. I still back Powell as I believe he's a good manager who has had little chance to improve the squad from last season due to the ownership issues, however, some of his choices do frustrate me. In addition, his faith in players like Church, Jackson & Dervite is also frustrating.
Keeping his faith in Jackson?! How do ppl think he is shit I don't get it. He is the backbone of our team. Ok his legs r getting on as is he but what a bloke to have with poyet, Lennon, piggot, Harriet, cousins etc!
The whole of our midfield has always been set up to support Jackson, which was fine when he was chipping in with goals. Now he's so slow it's like we're playing with 10 men. He can influence the younger players in training, but by playing alongside them he's actually harming their game because they're having to work harder to make up for his lack of input.
Was Cousins really playing on the right? From the commentary it sounded like we were playing a diamond midfield.
Definitely playing on the right, our best CM playing out of position!
Unfortunately, this is something Powell seems to be quite keen on over last season and this. I know people don't rate Green, but I'm all for having players play in their natural positions. I think when Wilson comes back from suspension, he'll be right wing, Nego right back. But it is frustrating because how many times did we have to put up with Pritchard out on the right. Similar problem on the left. Harriott is out of favour, so we have a number of different options being tested. Stewart was a naturally wide player, but we had to put up with him playing on the left as a right footer. I still back Powell as I believe he's a good manager who has had little chance to improve the squad from last season due to the ownership issues, however, some of his choices do frustrate me. In addition, his faith in players like Church, Jackson & Dervite is also frustrating.
Keeping his faith in Jackson?! How do ppl think he is shit I don't get it. He is the backbone of our team. Ok his legs r getting on as is he but what a bloke to have with poyet, Lennon, piggot, Harriet, cousins etc!
The whole of our midfield has always been set up to support Jackson, which was fine when he was chipping in with goals. Now he's so slow it's like we're playing with 10 men. He can influence the younger players in training, but by playing alongside them he's actually harming their game because they're having to work harder to make up for his lack of input.
If playing with ten men means our imaginary eleventh gets an assist like he did yesterday then I'll take that. What nonsense. Jackson is the only leader left out there and is the least of our problems.
Steve that's very good to hear so I take it those slating loic wernt there
Loic did ok tired towards the end D to be honest mate all of em did ok except the keeper if he remains in goal we are gonna have some heart stopping moments LOL.
Can someone tell me why we let Ben Alnwick go? As a season ticket holder have not seem him have a bad game. Perhaps Richard Murray can explain, that's if he has any say at the club still. Really feel sorry for Chris Powell and hope he can turn this round despite the new owners!
This is the 'Moneyball' tactic ... (if you saw the movie/read the book) .. the owner/general manager, when he disagreed with the team manager's selections, merely move the player in question on to another club .. if the owner wants someone in the side but does not want to sack the manager .. just move the disputed player out the door ... selection problem solved .. I wonder if both our ex Keepers, Alnwick & Button will be playing in the Champ next season and our new 'star' keeper will be down in the 1st
This is spot on and how it will be from now on.
The continental style of management allied to the Moneyball concept. Whoever picks the team is the coach and the management chooses the players. If we are still losing 7 mill a year RD is setting about reducing overheads.
I doubt if CP will fall into line with this way of working. IMO he's working out his contract and the new coach will be in during the summer.
The squad as it looks at the moment is heading for League One.
The Moneyball approach is based on in-depth data and statistics which influenced player recruitment. It wasn't based on an owner farming out rejects from one of his other sports teams to the other. It wasn't based on getting rid of the three best players and not replacing them. It wasn't based on undermining the head coach. This is not a Moneyball approach. I doubt RD has ever heard of it.
As I understand it the Alnwick and Kermorgant deals would be viewed positively within the money ball concept.
Both players were signed on frees , did a good job for us and have now been sold for some sort of fee. We probably made money on Stephens also.
At the start of last week I was resigned to losing Stephens , felt it was inevitable that Yann would go but hoped Wiggins would stay. The sale of Alnwick was a bolt out of the blue and it particularly concerns me that Hamer is still out injured and Pope is on loan.
Don't laugh but maybe we need another keeper on loan as cover because I do not think we can recall Pope because the rules are different to when he was on a 28 day loan.
Except Moneyball isn't all about making money is it? It's about improving team performance. I don't see how that will happen by selling the core of our first XI.
Moneyball is about both .. yes, the priority is to improve the team .. a secondary consideration is that as the team becomes more successful, then the playing staff becomes more valuable .. the knack is to offload players at the optimum point, the meeting of the value and performance deterioration points on the graph .. hopefully you sell at a profit just as the player is becoming a less valuable member of your team
Can someone tell me why we let Ben Alnwick go? As a season ticket holder have not seem him have a bad game. Perhaps Richard Murray can explain, that's if he has any say at the club still. Really feel sorry for Chris Powell and hope he can turn this round despite the new owners!
This is the 'Moneyball' tactic ... (if you saw the movie/read the book) .. the owner/general manager, when he disagreed with the team manager's selections, merely move the player in question on to another club .. if the owner wants someone in the side but does not want to sack the manager .. just move the disputed player out the door ... selection problem solved .. I wonder if both our ex Keepers, Alnwick & Button will be playing in the Champ next season and our new 'star' keeper will be down in the 1st
This is spot on and how it will be from now on.
The continental style of management allied to the Moneyball concept. Whoever picks the team is the coach and the management chooses the players. If we are still losing 7 mill a year RD is setting about reducing overheads.
I doubt if CP will fall into line with this way of working. IMO he's working out his contract and the new coach will be in during the summer.
The squad as it looks at the moment is heading for League One.
The Moneyball approach is based on in-depth data and statistics which influenced player recruitment. It wasn't based on an owner farming out rejects from one of his other sports teams to the other. It wasn't based on getting rid of the three best players and not replacing them. It wasn't based on undermining the head coach. This is not a Moneyball approach. I doubt RD has ever heard of it.
As I understand it the Alnwick and Kermorgant deals would be viewed positively within the money ball concept.
Both players were signed on frees , did a good job for us and have now been sold for some sort of fee. We probably made money on Stephens also.
At the start of last week I was resigned to losing Stephens , felt it was inevitable that Yann would go but hoped Wiggins would stay. The sale of Alnwick was a bolt out of the blue and it particularly concerns me that Hamer is still out injured and Pope is on loan.
Don't laugh but maybe we need another keeper on loan as cover because I do not think we can recall Pope because the rules are different to when he was on a 28 day loan.
Except Moneyball isn't all about making money is it? It's about improving team performance. I don't see how that will happen by selling the core of our first XI.
Moneyball is about both .. yes, the priority is to improve the team .. a secondary consideration is that as the team becomes more successful, then the playing staff becomes more valuable .. the knack is to offload players at the optimum point, the meeting of the value and performance deterioration points on the graph .. hopefully you sell at a profit just as the player is becoming a less valuable member of your team
Yes. Which I would agree with it but Yann and Stephens were at their most valuable point in terms of their importance to the team.
Wigan old Bill were complete tosses yesterday, Nicked a lad at the station last night for fcuk all
Were a disgrace. Saw a kid almost in tears
I saw a lad being spoken to but that was it, if he was the one that got arrested on the platform then yeah, harsh, unless he said something. Stewards were a bit aggressive.. seems these saddos like being confrontational to see if they get a reaction to then eject them. I think you sometimes have to realise football is an emotional game and sometimes, this gets the better of fans.
I see someone beating up a chair in frustration after Wigan took the lead , maybe something to do with that , who knows but his mate got him to pull himself together and I don't think there was any damage done
Can someone tell me why we let Ben Alnwick go? As a season ticket holder have not seem him have a bad game. Perhaps Richard Murray can explain, that's if he has any say at the club still. Really feel sorry for Chris Powell and hope he can turn this round despite the new owners!
This is the 'Moneyball' tactic ... (if you saw the movie/read the book) .. the owner/general manager, when he disagreed with the team manager's selections, merely move the player in question on to another club .. if the owner wants someone in the side but does not want to sack the manager .. just move the disputed player out the door ... selection problem solved .. I wonder if both our ex Keepers, Alnwick & Button will be playing in the Champ next season and our new 'star' keeper will be down in the 1st
This is spot on and how it will be from now on.
The continental style of management allied to the Moneyball concept. Whoever picks the team is the coach and the management chooses the players. If we are still losing 7 mill a year RD is setting about reducing overheads.
I doubt if CP will fall into line with this way of working. IMO he's working out his contract and the new coach will be in during the summer.
The squad as it looks at the moment is heading for League One.
The Moneyball approach is based on in-depth data and statistics which influenced player recruitment. It wasn't based on an owner farming out rejects from one of his other sports teams to the other. It wasn't based on getting rid of the three best players and not replacing them. It wasn't based on undermining the head coach. This is not a Moneyball approach. I doubt RD has ever heard of it.
As I understand it the Alnwick and Kermorgant deals would be viewed positively within the money ball concept.
Both players were signed on frees , did a good job for us and have now been sold for some sort of fee. We probably made money on Stephens also.
At the start of last week I was resigned to losing Stephens , felt it was inevitable that Yann would go but hoped Wiggins would stay. The sale of Alnwick was a bolt out of the blue and it particularly concerns me that Hamer is still out injured and Pope is on loan.
Don't laugh but maybe we need another keeper on loan as cover because I do not think we can recall Pope because the rules are different to when he was on a 28 day loan.
Except Moneyball isn't all about making money is it? It's about improving team performance. I don't see how that will happen by selling the core of our first XI.
Moneyball is about both .. yes, the priority is to improve the team .. a secondary consideration is that as the team becomes more successful, then the playing staff becomes more valuable .. the knack is to offload players at the optimum point, the meeting of the value and performance deterioration points on the graph .. hopefully you sell at a profit just as the player is becoming a less valuable member of your team
Yes. Which I would agree with it but Yann and Stephens were at their most valuable point in terms of their importance to the team.
mmm .. debatable and really a matter of opinion unless you have the stats to show up the 'truth' ... Stephens ... possibly .. Kermorgant ? .. I think that he had become/was becoming less important to the team, possibly because he felt hard done by and wanted away .. perhaps the owner considered that his 'imports' would prove better value than the existing 'staff' and that he should cash in while he could .. 'we' do not know the money CAFC got for them .. AND, I am not claiming that the 'moneyball principle' is the main criteria used in every/any transfer and/or selection policy .. who knows ?? .. Moneyball really is just an extension of the principle behind buying stocks and shares .. a search for undiscovered value and potential, for maximum ongoing 'dividends' from the share and in the longer term, an enhanced cash in profit when it comes time to sell 'the share'
Trying to think what happened but I was so pissed I can't remember, but pretty sure there wasn't a lot in it.
This :-) made the mistake of having vodka chasers with my Fosters top. Although the second half was back to the walls stuff and ultimately fruitless I wasn't that disheartened with the overall performance. It wasn't a repeat of the first hour at Barnsley which is the worst I've personally seen the team play in a long time. Reza, I feel, could be a quality addition with a bit of gametime under his belt. Considering we had a lot of new faces and young 'uns with a handful of games between them it could have been a whole lot worse. Thuram is going to cause us fans much stress though.
Credit to the fans yesterday, thought we were brilliant. Sore throat today but I can live with that.
Incidentally, I too have concerns about Chris Powell. Posted a couple of weeks ago how old and tired he was looking and he seems to be bearing up even worse. The bloke doesn't deserve the crap he is having to put up with and I for one will back him 100% until the straw that breaks the camels back finally appears.
Yes as you know I was bolloxed, it was in my back pocket LOL
That's good. few songs sung at station Sure police had the jump because swearing in them. They could of had a word with a few people Being sneaky like they are think grabbed the lad as he was getting on train . Think his mate said they put him on train behind
Trying to think what happened but I was so pissed I can't remember, but pretty sure there wasn't a lot in it.
This :-) made the mistake of having vodka chasers with my Fosters top. Although the second half was back to the walls stuff and ultimately fruitless I wasn't that disheartened with the overall performance. It wasn't a repeat of the first hour at Barnsley which is the worst I've personally seen the team play in a long time. Reza, I feel, could be a quality addition with a bit of gametime under his belt. Considering we had a lot of new faces and young 'uns with a handful of games between them it could have been a whole lot worse. Thuram is going to cause us fans much stress though.
Credit to the fans yesterday, thought we were brilliant. Sore throat today but I can live with that.
Incidentally, I too have concerns about Chris Powell. Posted a couple of weeks ago how old and tired he was looking and he seems to be bearing up even worse. The bloke doesn't deserve the crap he is having to put up with and I for one will back him 100% until the straw that breaks the camels back finally appears.
Can someone tell me why we let Ben Alnwick go? As a season ticket holder have not seem him have a bad game. Perhaps Richard Murray can explain, that's if he has any say at the club still. Really feel sorry for Chris Powell and hope he can turn this round despite the new owners!
This is the 'Moneyball' tactic ... (if you saw the movie/read the book) .. the owner/general manager, when he disagreed with the team manager's selections, merely move the player in question on to another club .. if the owner wants someone in the side but does not want to sack the manager .. just move the disputed player out the door ... selection problem solved .. I wonder if both our ex Keepers, Alnwick & Button will be playing in the Champ next season and our new 'star' keeper will be down in the 1st
This is spot on and how it will be from now on.
The continental style of management allied to the Moneyball concept. Whoever picks the team is the coach and the management chooses the players. If we are still losing 7 mill a year RD is setting about reducing overheads.
I doubt if CP will fall into line with this way of working. IMO he's working out his contract and the new coach will be in during the summer.
The squad as it looks at the moment is heading for League One.
The Moneyball approach is based on in-depth data and statistics which influenced player recruitment. It wasn't based on an owner farming out rejects from one of his other sports teams to the other. It wasn't based on getting rid of the three best players and not replacing them. It wasn't based on undermining the head coach. This is not a Moneyball approach. I doubt RD has ever heard of it.
As I understand it the Alnwick and Kermorgant deals would be viewed positively within the money ball concept.
Both players were signed on frees , did a good job for us and have now been sold for some sort of fee. We probably made money on Stephens also.
At the start of last week I was resigned to losing Stephens , felt it was inevitable that Yann would go but hoped Wiggins would stay. The sale of Alnwick was a bolt out of the blue and it particularly concerns me that Hamer is still out injured and Pope is on loan.
Don't laugh but maybe we need another keeper on loan as cover because I do not think we can recall Pope because the rules are different to when he was on a 28 day loan.
Except Moneyball isn't all about making money is it? It's about improving team performance. I don't see how that will happen by selling the core of our first XI.
Not saying I agree with the sales and I am not an expert on ,moneyball, I am sure there we would not have got much for Alnwick,but both Yann and him both came in on frees and we obtain fees for them.
Interesting how Thuram gets all the stick, yet Morrison is apparently blameless. I've seen the goals and he flounders around on his arse when the through ball was played in for the goal. He also gave away the free kick I believe? There's a player who's been poor all season.
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Keeping his faith in Jackson?! How do ppl think he is shit I don't get it. He is the backbone of our team. Ok his legs r getting on as is he but what a bloke to have with poyet, Lennon, piggot, Harriet, cousins etc!
The whole of our midfield has always been set up to support Jackson, which was fine when he was chipping in with goals. Now he's so slow it's like we're playing with 10 men. He can influence the younger players in training, but by playing alongside them he's actually harming their game because they're having to work harder to make up for his lack of input.
The whole of our midfield has always been set up to support Jackson, which was fine when he was chipping in with goals. Now he's so slow it's like we're playing with 10 men. He can influence the younger players in training, but by playing alongside them he's actually harming their game because they're having to work harder to make up for his lack of input.
If playing with ten men means our imaginary eleventh gets an assist like he did yesterday then I'll take that. What nonsense. Jackson is the only leader left out there and is the least of our problems.
Considering we had a lot of new faces and young 'uns with a handful of games between them it could have been a whole lot worse. Thuram is going to cause us fans much stress though.
Credit to the fans yesterday, thought we were brilliant. Sore throat today but I can live with that.
Incidentally, I too have concerns about Chris Powell. Posted a couple of weeks ago how old and tired he was looking and he seems to be bearing up even worse. The bloke doesn't deserve the crap he is having to put up with and I for one will back him 100% until the straw that breaks the camels back finally appears.
Always proud to be an Addick!
few songs sung at station
Sure police had the jump because swearing in them.
They could of had a word with a few people
Being sneaky like they are think grabbed the lad as he was getting on train .
Think his mate said they put him on train behind
Not saying I agree with the sales and I am not an expert on ,moneyball, I am sure there we would not have got much for Alnwick,but both Yann and him both came in on frees and we obtain fees for them.
Not afraid to pull his punches nor to show us clearly where it all went wrong.
Yet another true Addick who supports our gaffer & has concerns as to his future at our Club.