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Chelsea poach our Eng U17 prospect

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  • edited April 2013
    Death threats, meant or not are a disgrace, twitter does encourage idiots. Have to agree with NSS though, more to the story of him moving....maybe more money, that is about it lets not dress it up as anything it ain't!
  • If he's getting freaked by that he's in for a torrid time being a pro
  • edited April 2013
    . double post, sorry!
  • Death threats do me a favour who takes them seriously, as with the there is more to him moving, yer right.

    You or I may not be affected by death threats on Twitter, but a 16 year old boy may well be, especially by people who may know what he looks like (just google him) and where he trains.
  • People threatening him are probably younger than him.Unfortunately goes with the territory of being a professional footballer.
  • So did casual racism. Cowards and their keyboards, more to be pitied than scorned I suppose.
  • It was some crazy north korean NSS he started pointing rockets at the poor chelski rich kid
  • Death threats do me a favour who takes them seriously, as with the there is more to him moving, yer right.

    You or I may not be affected by death threats on Twitter, but a 16 year old boy may well be, especially by people who may know what he looks like (just google him) and where he trains.
    What is a 16 year old child doing on Twitter ?
  • Talking to crazy nth koreans
  • PL54 said:

    Death threats do me a favour who takes them seriously, as with the there is more to him moving, yer right.

    You or I may not be affected by death threats on Twitter, but a 16 year old boy may well be, especially by people who may know what he looks like (just google him) and where he trains.
    What is a 16 year old child doing on Twitter ?
    You'll find that the majority of boys at Charlton (and other clubs) from U15's up have a Twitter account. There will probably be quite a few younger than that who have them too, it's just we don't know their names.
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  • PL54 said:

    Death threats do me a favour who takes them seriously, as with the there is more to him moving, yer right.

    What is a 16 year old child doing on Twitter ?
    You'll find that the majority of boys at Charlton (and other clubs) from U15's up have a Twitter account. There will probably be quite a few younger than that who have them too, it's just we don't know their names.
    Very true - most teens do in all likelyhood.

    Sadly Twitter does have its twits - people hide beind the computer and think they can abuse others easily.

    I think some feel because somebody is rich/famous or well known they deserve it for some reason.


  • I'm sure I read somewhere that because Chelsea have a category 1 academy set up and we have category 2 academy set up they can cherry pick ours : Under the recently-introduced Elite Player Performance Plan guidelines, clubs that have been graded as having category one academies can take their pick of young players at sides that have a lower rating. If that's the case it's bang out of order what hope you got you can see why we are trying to get academy 1 statues
  • Shame for us really, but if he wants out then that's it.
    Hope the lad does well but he'd have better off for all concerned staying here for a few more years.
  • 200k rising to a possible 800k. still ain't much.
  • £200k and a bucketful of promises.

    And because we didn't invest the money to get Cat 1 we can look forward to losing a few more players for what, for the Premier league clubs at least, is peanuts.
  • Does anyone know how championship clubs like Bolton, Palace, Wolves, Mboro etc got category 1?

    Also is it possible to get promoted if we were to finish top of the cat 2 tables, or is it all entirely dependent on investment?
  • £200k and a bucketful of promises.

    And because we didn't invest the money to get Cat 1 we can look forward to losing a few more players for what, for the Premier league clubs at least, is peanuts.

    True but these clubs are also risking the player turning into nothing at times (see bostock for £1m)
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  • Does anyone know how championship clubs like Bolton, Palace, Wolves, Mboro etc got category 1?

    You need to fulfil a certain number of criteria such as investing ca £2.5m a year, having a minimum of 18 full time coaching staff. Then the coaching system has to be indepenedently audited before the status is awarded.

    The category one status is awarded for three years before being renewed.

    I'm not sure that Palace have cat one status, although their team plays in the cat one league.
  • Also is it possible to get promoted if we were to finish top of the cat 2 tables, or is it all entirely dependent on investment?

    Essentially it's about investment, having a certain number of qualified staff (UEFA badges etc) and the right training grounds - indoor/outdoor facilities, astroturf pitches etc, plus certain aspects of the training proramme are taken into consideration - what type of education the players receive outside of their football training etc.

    Cat one status also means that you can recruit players nationally.
  • Ok cheers for that BFR
  • Is it worth even having a Cat 2 academy under the new system?

    Could 2 clubs join forces to have a Cat 1 academy, e.g. us and ahem, Millwall as combined we'd certainly meet the criteria
  • Is it worth even having a Cat 2 academy under the new system?

    Could 2 clubs join forces to have a Cat 1 academy, e.g. us and ahem, Millwall as combined we'd certainly meet the criteria

    In my opinion it is worth having Cat 2 status - look at the players we have in our youth/reserve teams coming through and who should be in first team contention over the next few years. It looks bad that we've lost one decent prospect but without Cat two status it is possible that he and the other talented young players would have left the club by now - you can be sure that they are all being tapped up by other clubs. That we've lost one looks bad, but bear in mind that most prefer to stay, so we must be doing something right. They are attracted to the club by the training programme and the club's reputation - and in an ironic sort of way losing Kasey Palmer to Chelsea reflects well on the club - demonstrating that we are a club that trains youth/reserve teamers up properly and attracts players that the bigger prem clubs actively want.



  • Have just come back from the U18s game today (we were winning 2-0) and I don't blame any player for taking the cash to be honest. I know I would if someone flashed some in front of me. I managed to see the U18's this year but have some good kids in that team that played today.
  • Our club has no money and could be back in the position of administration within the next couple of years, bit pissed off yes... but really cant blame the lad.
  • It's just that the new regime now gives a clear advantage to clubs with Cat 1 status over Cat 2 status, and lessons the chance of keeping hold of the very best youngsters (the Parkers, Bowyers etc) until the time when they can generate a big transfer fee. Clearly we'll still keep many good youngsters, but at our level it's the big transfer fees that pay for our academy.

  • So we get £200K for Palmer. The academy costs us £1M pa at least (that is min investment for Cat2), so we just need 4 more players of a quality the Big4 want and it will have paid for itself this year....well worth it then!
  • What I've never understood is why clubs put up with the FA/FIFA rule that you can't sign a player on a professional contract until the player's 17th birthday. In the real world kids can get a proper full-time job while still 16 and will have a contract of employment. Why hasn't a club somewhere in England just given a promising 16-year-old a professional contract and told the FA they'll see them in court on a "restraint of trade" case if they want to make a fuss about it?
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