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So how do we reduce the vandalism/violence ?

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  • Indeed it happens. And we compalin loudly about it when they do it to us. No one is saying its only a bad thing when we do it to others. You may be aware of the saying about two wrongs and a right?

    As for the pollice, did this hedring and other disgracefull law enforcing behvaiour happen before the game when we were just a family friendly club or after the game when we had broken toilets, ri[pped up seats and set off flares?
  • It was pre-planned, likewise when they played Brighton. No way could you arrange all that at short notice.

    Before the game I had to meet someone to hand over a ticket outside the entrance. I said I was between the police vans then noticed there were 4 or so.
  • DRF said:

    Indeed it happens. And we compalin loudly about it when they do it to us. No one is saying its only a bad thing when we do it to others. You may be aware of the saying about two wrongs and a right?

    As for the pollice, did this hedring and other disgracefull law enforcing behvaiour happen before the game when we were just a family friendly club or after the game when we had broken toilets, ri[pped up seats and set off flares?

    The Police did exactly the same operation for the Brighton fans on the 1st december and identical results occured re criminal damage.

  • edited February 2013
    DRF said:

    As for the pollice, did this hedring and other disgracefull law enforcing behvaiour happen before the game when we were just a family friendly club or after the game when we had broken toilets, ri[pped up seats and set off flares?

    Take it you've not been going long?

    Was a massive police presence all day, there always has been when we play Palace home/away

    And I'm not sure why people think 'football violence' is a new thing at Charlton, ok our element has been smaller than certain other clubs but there has always been an element.
  • shirty5 said:

    JT said:

    Has anyone lost an eye at Charlton in our 108 year history?

    sorry it was 86

    yes 1985 Oxford away
    Incorrect
  • cant condone any of the vandalism in or outside the ground pointless. But the way this stuff is reported in the media is a scandal croydon guardian, Charlton fans go on rampage wide of the mark or what. These rags lap this sort of thing up and inflame the situation even more. The croydon riots must have been reported as world war four.
  • I saw in the programme that the police are apparently going to hold a "public meeting" to discuss the events last week.

    Then, helpfully, it doesn't say when or where the meeting is!
  • cant condone any of the vandalism in or outside the ground pointless. But the way this stuff is reported in the media is a scandal croydon guardian, Charlton fans go on rampage wide of the mark or what. These rags lap this sort of thing up and inflame the situation even more. The croydon riots must have been reported as world war four.


    I can vouch for newspaper hyperbole on a personal level.
  • A few knocks at the door expected this week according to one big nosed OB on sat

  • A few knocks at the door expected this week according to one big nosed OB on sat

    Talking about the police yesterday, I noted how "dressed down " they looked as we exited up Floyd Rd after the game. Rain jackets open, almost leaning on walls at the side of the pavement and those on horseback chatting to fans as always AND giving clear instructions via that antique piece of equipment a MEGAPHONE !

    Simples.

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  • A few knocks at the door expected this week according to one big nosed OB on sat

    Talking about the police yesterday, I noted how "dressed down " they looked as we exited up Floyd Rd after the game. Rain jackets open, almost leaning on walls at the side of the pavement and those on horseback chatting to fans as always AND giving clear instructions via that antique piece of equipment a MEGAPHONE !

    Simples.

    exactly ...that's the way to do it ;-)
  • If that was my wing mirror I would be pretty upset. Wouldn't anybody. Some people need to be aware of acting like responsible adults and what that entails.

    I would but I used to live on a very busy road next door to a pub. It happened to me once and I was more annoyed at myself that I couldn't afford to move to a better area. It was almost expected to happen. Same probably goes if you live next door to a football ground in croydon.
  • Just cut out damaging the bogs, I got wet feet at the toolbox.
  • OB seemed to be taking a few names down on Saturday outside the north upper turnstiles.
  • OB seemed to be taking a few names down on Saturday outside the north upper turnstiles.

    They were eyeing people up in the Cons as well before the game.

  • SE10 said:

    maestro said:

    SE10 said:

    Typical Palace.

    Terrorising innocent people on trains and turning up at Charlton Station 20 minutes or so before KO surrounded by the Met.

    What ever you say Danny dyer. Same can be said for charlton destroying innocent residents property's and cars while they hid in their homes afraid. You must be so proud. Stop acting like a wanna be thug and grow up. I noticed a police escort for charlton on Saturday? To and from the game. Did you hire them?

    As for the charlton arrests after Saturdays events very over the top. To print people's names and addresses when they have not been found guilty is disgusting. If they've destroyed people's property then fair enough, but over a flare and sniff? Shocking.
    Was a valid point.

    You've got well known previous for attacking innocent people on trains haven't you? And I've never seen any Palace around Charlton except directly before and after games.

    And I don't think you understand this police escort buisness, common place for large groups of away fans to be escorted to the ground while the home support go about their usual business. You're the only support anyones ever heard of that need to hire the police to get them to their own ground safely.

    You're a joke club.
    Still peddling that tired old lie that palace fans attacked women and children? CCTV clearly shows a bunch of mouthy charlton fans being slapped about. Can't see any children being eaten like you lot claim. The video is on YouTube if anyone is interested in the truth.

    Not that I condone any violence. The palace fans were punished.


  • Was a valid point.

    You've got well known previous for attacking innocent people on trains haven't you? And I've never seen any Palace around Charlton except directly before and after games.

    And I don't think you understand this police escort buisness, common place for large groups of away fans to be escorted to the ground while the home support go about their usual business. You're the only support anyones ever heard of that need to hire the police to get them to their own ground safely.

    You're a joke club.

    Still peddling that tired old lie that palace fans attacked women and children? CCTV clearly shows a bunch of mouthy charlton fans being slapped about. Can't see any children being eaten like you lot claim. The video is on YouTube if anyone is interested in the truth.

    Not that I condone any violence. The palace fans were punished.


    why don't you fuck off to a palace forum.
  • edited February 2013
    A kid was chased onto a train track you plank a woman had a bottle thrown at her head . The video clearly shows barmies one with a flag draped over his back and a father and son got attacked the dad in late fifties . So we wont lose any sleep when your mouthy lot get put to sleep outside nightclubs
  • maestro said:

    SE10 said:

    maestro said:

    SE10 said:

    Typical Palace.

    Terrorising innocent people on trains and turning up at Charlton Station 20 minutes or so before KO surrounded by the Met.

    What ever you say Danny dyer. Same can be said for charlton destroying innocent residents property's and cars while they hid in their homes afraid. You must be so proud. Stop acting like a wanna be thug and grow up. I noticed a police escort for charlton on Saturday? To and from the game. Did you hire them?

    As for the charlton arrests after Saturdays events very over the top. To print people's names and addresses when they have not been found guilty is disgusting. If they've destroyed people's property then fair enough, but over a flare and sniff? Shocking.
    Was a valid point.

    You've got well known previous for attacking innocent people on trains haven't you? And I've never seen any Palace around Charlton except directly before and after games.

    And I don't think you understand this police escort buisness, common place for large groups of away fans to be escorted to the ground while the home support go about their usual business. You're the only support anyones ever heard of that need to hire the police to get them to their own ground safely.

    You're a joke club.
    Still peddling that tired old lie that palace fans attacked women and children? CCTV clearly shows a bunch of mouthy charlton fans being slapped about. Can't see any children being eaten like you lot claim. The video is on YouTube if anyone is interested in the truth.

    Not that I condone any violence. The palace fans were punished.
    I know for a fact that a man who was with his five year old daughter was headbutted for no reason at all.

    Gutless cowards who knew exactly what they were doing by picking on innocent people who they knew would not fight back.

    I know you are not condoning what happened Maestro, but get your facts right first please.
  • Or when they got a proper good shoeing in nick for their cowardly actions

    You are a mug maestro if you can not accept that your so called element picked the train they knew would have shirters on



    Cowardly mugs who got what was coming to them
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  • edited February 2013
    I think he is condoning it don't be fooled by this little creep who like a bad smell still lingers on here
  • Maestro I suggest you read the numerous newspaper reports before acting like a complete twat.
  • maestro said:

    SE10 said:

    maestro said:

    SE10 said:

    Typical Palace.

    Terrorising innocent people on trains and turning up at Charlton Station 20 minutes or so before KO surrounded by the Met.

    What ever you say Danny dyer. Same can be said for charlton destroying innocent residents property's and cars while they hid in their homes afraid. You must be so proud. Stop acting like a wanna be thug and grow up. I noticed a police escort for charlton on Saturday? To and from the game. Did you hire them?

    As for the charlton arrests after Saturdays events very over the top. To print people's names and addresses when they have not been found guilty is disgusting. If they've destroyed people's property then fair enough, but over a flare and sniff? Shocking.
    Was a valid point.

    You've got well known previous for attacking innocent people on trains haven't you? And I've never seen any Palace around Charlton except directly before and after games.

    And I don't think you understand this police escort buisness, common place for large groups of away fans to be escorted to the ground while the home support go about their usual business. You're the only support anyones ever heard of that need to hire the police to get them to their own ground safely.

    You're a joke club.
    Still peddling that tired old lie that palace fans attacked women and children? CCTV clearly shows a bunch of mouthy charlton fans being slapped about. Can't see any children being eaten like you lot claim. The video is on YouTube if anyone is interested in the truth.

    Not that I condone any violence. The palace fans were punished.
    As others said, A kid chased on to the tracks. The Dad clearly putting his hands up to say he don't want it only for some brave cnut to headbut him? The fella with a flag draped around him? Suppose he had been calling it on eh.

    Look at the time it happened, your lot knew exactly who they were attacking that day.

    Remember the 2 Millwall at East Croydon who got a kicking off 15 of yours? Or the QPR fan bottled while his kid watched? Suppose they all deserved it didn't they.
  • http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/14901..._work_again /

    No right minded person thinks any of this kind of behaviour is condoned.
  • Not nice but if a big female bouncer runs into the middle of a big fight the chances are she'll get a clump, not deliberate probably more instinctive or accidental. Believe the whole part about not working again was rubbish aswell.

    Don't let that get in the way of your pal Maestro gloating about Sydenham though.
  • The difference is that these cowards at Sydenham went looking for innocent people to attack.

    The fight where the big bird got clumped wasn't planned, although it shouldn't have happened.
  • Palarse----total bollockless cowards----whose "mob" havnt ever turned up in the SE7 post code ever.

    Whose "mob" never once turned up when we played over 200 games at Shithouse Park.

    Whose"mob" after attcking families and kids are trying to put it about that they set up a meeting with our "mob" but we didnt turn up----------the fact that this is bollox and dosnt explian why they attacked families anyway isnt in their planned spin.

    Did i mention that they dont have a set of gonads between the lot of em ?

    The guy who did the head butted the dad on the train got put on his arse in Lewisham and screamed like the bollockless coward he is.

    PS Now lets all have a hug



  • Palarse----total bollockless cowards----whose "mob" havnt ever turned up in the SE7 post code ever.

    Whose "mob" never once turned up when we played over 200 games at Shithouse Park.

    Whose"mob" after attcking families and kids are trying to put it about that they set up a meeting with our "mob" but we didnt turn up----------the fact that this is bollox and dosnt explian why they attacked families anyway isnt in their planned spin.

    Did i mention that they dont have a set of gonads between the lot of em ?

    The guy who did the head butted the dad on the train got put on his arse in Lewisham and screamed like the bollockless coward he is.

    PS Now lets all have a hug


    Sorry but as you havent used the word 'fact' once in that post, i dont believe a word of it.

    To be fair, even if you did use the word 'fact' i still wouldnt believe it.

    Its the biggest pile of sh1te since Tony said 'iraqs weapons of mass destruction exist and have the capability of hitting western europe in 45 mins'.

    Ciao.

  • How many times to the nearest f++kin non have Palarse ever turned up anywhere in SE7 ?

    How many times to the nearest non did Palarse turn up when we played 200 games at shithouse park ?

    Who did they arrange to meet pre Sydenham ?before attcking dads and kids ?

    Your top tit geting put on his arse at Lewisham and screaming his head off didnt happen ? shame that i was about 6 feet away.

    The last and final FACT is that theyare indeed a bunch of bollockless cowards.

    that noise you can hear is silence re any answer to the above.

  • How many times to the nearest f++kin non have Palarse ever turned up anywhere in SE7 ?

    How many times to the nearest non did Palarse turn up when we played 200 games at shithouse park ?

    Who did they arrange to meet pre Sydenham ?before attcking dads and kids ?

    Your top tit geting put on his arse at Lewisham and screaming his head off didnt happen ? shame that i was about 6 feet away.

    The last and final FACT is that theyare indeed a bunch of bollockless cowards.

    that noise you can hear is silence re any answer to the above.

    I can hear an unusual ticking noise...somethings about to explode.....you!
    Chill out.

    Goodbye

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