Really puzzled as to why Vydra didn't start. What do you think?
Probably just resting him along with Deeney to give Geijo a go.
Our real problem was the lack of defending or tackling in midfield.
Really you could have scored more...our inexperienced showed.
You are a gentleman, Super horns.
Just listening to them on BBC London talking about four games in ten days and how it is a real shock for foreign players. guess that was part of Zolas thinking
Really puzzled as to why Vydra didn't start. What do you think?
Probably just resting him along with Deeney to give Geijo a go.
Our real problem was the lack of defending or tackling in midfield.
Really you could have scored more...our inexperienced showed.
You are a gentleman, Super horns.
Just listening to them on BBC London talking about four games in ten days and how it is a real shock for foreign players. guess that was part of Zolas thinking
We only played 3 and seemed ok on Saturday ofcourse.
I think they are looking for an excuse TBH.
Zola said the players were prepared.
I think its more we made changes due to injury (Hall and Hogg were injured)
Just saw the goals on SSN. Not sure why everyone was saying Hamer should have done more for the 1st goal it didn't look like there was too much more he could have done. Jeff did comment that it wasn't great defending for their 3rd goal though.
The lads certainly dug deep and kept going , really proud of them today , can't believe we almost threw away a 2-1 win! :-0
No seriously when the first goal went in after what 10 minutes , i feared a landslide of goals appearing , but this result shows the character & determination in the team
Credit where its due they battled for everything , Pritchard was immense again , if he could work on his composure and finishing ( 3 chances) he would be top top drawer.
I was appalled at the play acting by the Watford players chucking themselves on the floor for no reason at times , it was embarrassing , the ref also gave some shocking decisons , i think he disallowed 2 of their goals to try and even things up, i was starting to think the game was a fix by some dodgy italian mafia mob.
Before the game, I would not have been surprised to see BWP starting, based on the received wisdom that you don't drop players who have done well in the previous game. But of course I am not a football professional. I am absolutely convinced that if BWP had been preferred to Fuller, we would have lost. So I submit that CP won us the three points today, just as he threw away two points against Derby for not hauling Morro off at half time, according to some.
Great result, made my day, considering I spent most of the afternoon unblocking the toilet down pipe, manhole covers up, the lot. Even brought a smile to my face.
It's a bit of a cliche but might I suggest that the level of commitment and effort put in today by all accounts could be directly related to the absence of any loanees in the starting line up? Imo Hulse has been the only one who has worked out well for us.
It's a bit of a cliche but might I suggest that the level of commitment and effort put in today by all accounts could be directly related to the absence of any loanees in the starting line up? Imo Hulse has been the only one who has worked out well for us.
I definitely think this could be the case. A lot of loan signings definitely don't put in enough effort.
Before the game, I would not have been surprised to see BWP starting, based on the received wisdom that you don't drop players who have done well in the previous game. But of course I am not a football professional. I am absolutely convinced that if BWP had been preferred to Fuller, we would have lost. So I submit that CP won us the three points today, just as he threw away two points against Derby for not hauling Morro off at half time, according to some.
I wasnt there but it does sound like Powell has instilled a never say die attitude! Great work today by the manager! Looking forward to seeing who he brings in!
Before the game, I would not have been surprised to see BWP starting, based on the received wisdom that you don't drop players who have done well in the previous game. But of course I am not a football professional. I am absolutely convinced that if BWP had been preferred to Fuller, we would have lost. So I submit that CP won us the three points today, just as he threw away two points against Derby for not hauling Morro off at half time, according to some.
Have to agree, Fuller and Kermorgant terrorised their two centre-halves who didn't look that strong physically.
Best game of the season so far - even beating the win over Cardiff. 2nd game in a row where we had no loanees in the starting 11 and it showed - character & commitment from all 14 players (even Jordan Cook showed some nice touches in the 5 mins he was on) and my MOTM must go to Pritchard, closely followed by JJ (who could have had a hat-trick). Special mention goes to Ceddy for his run & cross for our 2nd goal - just shows why a naturaL LB should be playing LB !!
If I don't ever go back to Watford it will be a moment too soon - horrible town with no car parking except the multi-story car parks which when you try to exit you find the ticket machines don't work - horrible team where every player takes it it turns to fall over and play dead - terrible fans who make no noise and were quieter than Arsenal & Fulham p-ut together and still have a whole side of the pitch closed due to a ramshackle stand thas just about to fall down.
Final mention goes to the winning goal - I was right behind it about 10 rows back and the moment the ball left JJ's head I knew it was in...............you f*******g beauty !!!
Of course, it sounds like a great performance. What doesn't stack up for me is the high marks that the defenders have recorded on the player ratings thread when we have conceded three. Can any of those attending explain?
Of course, it sounds like a great performance. What doesn't stack up for me is the high marks that the defenders have recorded on the player ratings thread when we have conceded three. Can any of those attending explain?
The third goal was poor defending from the two CB's, but the first was a bit of a scab goal from hamers parry and the second was a pen.
Hamer tipped a couple of deflections over the bar, but wasn't that busy.
Cort and Dervite did well against two very good forwards and solly and Evina defended well but were even better in attacking support.
Of course, it sounds like a great performance. What doesn't stack up for me is the high marks that the defenders have recorded on the player ratings thread when we have conceded three. Can any of those attending explain?
It was a very end-to-end game. The amount of Watford attacks we dealt with far outweighed the goals they scored.
Watching us off the ball today was what we are all about. Everyone giving 110% and on there touch the second they had the ball.
Hamer made some vital saves again today. Pritch and jacko all over the place. Stephens getting physical and putting his foot in. Wilson not putting a foot wrong too.
Solly his usual effin quality self. Evina showing us what he is capable of. That second goal was brilliant and it started with ceddy taking a couple of players on and playing a lovely little ball to pritch.
Yann won a lot in the air today but him and ricardo also held the ball up and brought other players into the game well.
As for watford, its already been said but they are a disgrace. The sort of stuff you dont want to see in football and it all started with the little git and the handball. Loved zola as a player but the team he manages are a complete embarassment
Found this on the Watford Forum couldn't have put it better myself.
"Tippy tappy sideways football by foreign fancy Dan's who dive and roll around on the floor 3 - 4 Good, old fashioned, English football, swinging it in the mixer. "
Our second goal was one of the best team goals we've surely ever scored.
Evina was superb.
The midfield tackling was superb. If Watford can't handle it, boo hoo. Football is a physical game. And some of their tackles on our players were pretty cynical.
Fuller will frustrate and amaze in equal measure. His work for the third goal was magical.
Finally though, well done Charlton. They got their tactics spot on and that's the way to play against us, especially at home. They gave us no time on the ball and got in our faces. It wasn't pretty football but it got them 4 goals and they should have had more truth be told (as should we, of course). Pretty dirty at times going in late and being physical, but that's one way of beating a team like us at the moment, and they did. I'd rather see a team beat us for more, shall we say, footballing reasons, but beat us they did. Fair play to them, and we didn't cover ourselves in glory anyway with FF's hand of god, Geijo's spasming on the floor after a strong header, and Neuton's backward roll in the 2nd half. We need to cut out a few stupid little elements of our game, and understand that we won't be able to play the same way every week in this division. I'm sure Zola knows this by now, and this will help us in the long run.
just seen the goals on SSN (cheers MOG for the reminder), great to start the new year with a win. A bit of a 'break' now with the cup on saturday though. COYR!
Away on holiday at the moment so it has been difficult getting on the match thread for the games. I managed to get on when it was halftime in realtime but started following the game from the beginning. I caught up realtime with about 2 mins to go before the end. What a game to follow and a totally unexpected result. What a bunch of battlers!! Huge credit to RedMidland, Seth, Paddy and others on the thread who really captured the atmosphere. I'm a very happy camper. :-)
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Thank you all for the lovely messages and support.Blinding day all round.So proud to skipper this group of lads.
Just listening to them on BBC London talking about four games in ten days and how it is a real shock for foreign players. guess that was part of Zolas thinking
I think they are looking for an excuse TBH.
Zola said the players were prepared.
I think its more we made changes due to injury (Hall and Hogg were injured)
Our team showed real grit! Fuller's work for the third goal was superb.
Evina settling into the team and Jacko battling for everything. Pritchard everywhere as usual but needs to start burying his chances.
Watford mascot made me laugh - awesome dance moves and desperate attempts to get their support going.
Our supporters stuck behind the team once again!
Great start to the New Year! Watford have some class players but our players wanted it more.
The lads certainly dug deep and kept going , really proud of them today , can't believe we almost threw away a 2-1 win! :-0
No seriously when the first goal went in after what 10 minutes , i feared a landslide of goals appearing , but this result shows the character & determination in the team
Credit where its due they battled for everything , Pritchard was immense again , if he could work on his composure and finishing ( 3 chances) he would be top top drawer.
I was appalled at the play acting by the Watford players chucking themselves on the floor for no reason at times , it was embarrassing , the ref also gave some shocking decisons , i think he disallowed 2 of their goals to try and even things up, i was starting to think the game was a fix by some dodgy italian mafia mob.
I am absolutely convinced that if BWP had been preferred to Fuller, we would have lost.
So I submit that CP won us the three points today, just as he threw away two points against Derby for not hauling Morro off at half time, according to some.
If I don't ever go back to Watford it will be a moment too soon - horrible town with no car parking except the multi-story car parks which when you try to exit you find the ticket machines don't work - horrible team where every player takes it it turns to fall over and play dead - terrible fans who make no noise and were quieter than Arsenal & Fulham p-ut together and still have a whole side of the pitch closed due to a ramshackle stand thas just about to fall down.
Final mention goes to the winning goal - I was right behind it about 10 rows back and the moment the ball left JJ's head I knew it was in...............you f*******g beauty !!!
Your right about the multi-stories but its a case of looking harder.
Hamer tipped a couple of deflections over the bar, but wasn't that busy.
Cort and Dervite did well against two very good forwards and solly and Evina defended well but were even better in attacking support.
Watching us off the ball today was what we are all about. Everyone giving 110% and on there touch the second they had the ball.
Hamer made some vital saves again today.
Pritch and jacko all over the place. Stephens getting physical and putting his foot in. Wilson not putting a foot wrong too.
Solly his usual effin quality self. Evina showing us what he is capable of. That second goal was brilliant and it started with ceddy taking a couple of players on and playing a lovely little ball to pritch.
Yann won a lot in the air today but him and ricardo also held the ball up and brought other players into the game well.
As for watford, its already been said but they are a disgrace. The sort of stuff you dont want to see in football and it all started with the little git and the handball. Loved zola as a player but the team he manages are a complete embarassment
"Tippy tappy sideways football by foreign fancy Dan's who dive and roll around on the floor 3 - 4 Good, old fashioned, English football, swinging it in the mixer. "
Hard fought win , good effort lads.
Jacko says he didnt touch the ball for his disallowed goal and booking
I now hate Watford, I thought the attitude of players and fans were a disgrace.
Our second goal was one of the best team goals we've surely ever scored.
Evina was superb.
The midfield tackling was superb. If Watford can't handle it, boo hoo. Football is a physical game. And some of their tackles on our players were pretty cynical.
Fuller will frustrate and amaze in equal measure. His work for the third goal was magical.
What a great day.
Finally though, well done Charlton. They got their tactics spot on and that's the way to play against us, especially at home. They gave us no time on the ball and got in our faces. It wasn't pretty football but it got them 4 goals and they should have had more truth be told (as should we, of course). Pretty dirty at times going in late and being physical, but that's one way of beating a team like us at the moment, and they did. I'd rather see a team beat us for more, shall we say, footballing reasons, but beat us they did. Fair play to them, and we didn't cover ourselves in glory anyway with FF's hand of god, Geijo's spasming on the floor after a strong header, and Neuton's backward roll in the 2nd half. We need to cut out a few stupid little elements of our game, and understand that we won't be able to play the same way every week in this division. I'm sure Zola knows this by now, and this will help us in the long run.