Four pages worth of comments about songs that haven't even been bloody sung yet. Probably wouldn't have even been sung had this thread not given people the ideas to do it by arguing against it in the first place.
How about we wait until the match actually happens before putting people down for something that hasn't actually been done?
Four pages worth of comments about songs that haven't even been bloody sung yet. Probably wouldn't have even been sung had this thread not given people the ideas to do it by arguing against it in the first place.
How about we wait until the match actually happens before putting people down for something that hasn't actually been done?
Four pages worth of comments about songs that haven't even been bloody sung yet. Probably wouldn't have even been sung had this thread not given people the ideas to do it by arguing against it in the first place.
How about we wait until the match actually happens before putting people down for something that hasn't actually been done?
Bizarre logic.
People clearly stated that the Homophobic songs "must be sung" to which others then said "no, the shouldn't".
And you then blame the people who say don't sing for somehow provoking the songs. Just bizarre logic.
By your way of thinking if someone says they are going to kill themselves you shouldnt say or do anything as that might encourage them, rather do something after they have done it.
Four pages worth of comments about songs that haven't even been bloody sung yet. Probably wouldn't have even been sung had this thread not given people the ideas to do it by arguing against it in the first place.
How about we wait until the match actually happens before putting people down for something that hasn't actually been done?
Bizarre logic.
People clearly stated that the Homophobic songs "must be sung" to which others then said "no, the shouldn't".
And you then blame the people who say don't sing for somehow provoking the songs. Just bizarre logic.
By your way of thinking if someone says they are going to kill themselves you shouldnt say or do anything as that might encourage them, rather do something after they have done it.
That last comment is so ridiculous its laughable. The two scenarios couldn't be any more different.
One of them involves somebody who is struggling against the urges of killing themselves for whatever reason.
And the other is people singing Football songs to wind other people up.
Remember the abuse that Danny Murphy got in the Blackburn game this season? Had Charlton Life not gone into meltdown about what supposedly happened at Fulham then chances are the temptation to sing those songs wouldn't have been as strong.
Half the reason the incest song gets sung every week is to get up the back of those Charlton fans who say they shouldn't do it.
For someone with a psychology degree you seem very poor at recognising an analogy or constructing a logical argument without making up nonsense.
I'm also amazed that you "know" why people sing the incest song.
You claim on no presented evidence whatsoever is it to annoy other Charlton fans. Now that might be your reason for singing it in which case you need to have a long hard look at yourself but I'm not sure when you carried out the survey of fans as to their reasons for singing the song.
The Murphy argument is circular and collapses at the first logical approach.
Murphy has already been abused at Fulham BEFORE anything was said on CL. The same was repeated v Blackburn because some people still disliked Murphy for the same reasons they disliked him at the Fulham game. Comments on CL had nothing to do with it.
Again you are claiming that people sang that song for a reason for which you have no evidence whatsoever.
For someone with a psychology degree you seem very poor at recognising an analogy or constructing a logical argument without making up nonsense.
I'm also amazed that you "know" why people sing the incest song.
You claim on no presented evidence whatsoever is it to annoy other Charlton fans. Now that might be your reason for singing it in which case you need to have a long hard look at yourself but I'm not sure when you carried out the survey of fans as to their reasons for singing the song.
The Murphy argument is circular and collapses at the first logical approach.
Murphy has already been abused at Fulham BEFORE anything was said on CL. The same was repeated v Blackburn because some people still disliked Murphy for the same reasons they disliked him at the Fulham game. Comments on CL had nothing to do with it.
Again you are claiming that people sang that song for a reason for which you have no evidence whatsoever.
So you need evidence to form opinions and posts on here now? If that's the case, then about 95% of whats written on here is likely to be absolute tripe in your eyes. Believe it or not, most people with an ounce of common sense are intuitive and are able to make interpretations of other people's behavior without having everything in writing.
If you tell someone not to press the big red button, more often than not - people get the urge to press it.
And yes, there is a bloke who sits near me who goes absolutely mad when he hears Charlton fans sing the incest song. He does my head in. Doesn't mean I sing it, but I do get the temptation to do it to make a point sometimes. I make the interpretation that there are probably others out there like me who feel the same.
So now you are not you a mind reader but you do have more intuition that others.
Laughable.
And yes of course you need evidence to form an opinion otherwise it is just prejudice.
People have an opinion that player x is better than player y based on the evidence of their own eyes.
People have an opinion that film A is better than film B based on the evidence of their own eyes.
Others will form different opinions from the same evidence.
What you have is an opinion that people act in a certain way based on no evidence other than your gut feeling (intuition). You are like a person saying they don't like a player they have never seen or film they have never watched.
So now you are not you a mind reader but you do have more intuition that others.
Laughable.
And yes of course you need evidence to form an opinion otherwise it is just prejudice.
People have an opinion that player x is better than player y based on the evidence of their own eyes.
People have an opinion that film A is better than film B based on the evidence of their own eyes.
Others will form different opinions from the same evidence.
What you have is an opinion that people act in a certain way based on no evidence other than your gut feeling (intuition). You are like a person saying they don't like a player they have never seen or film they have never watched.
In short YOU MADE IT UP
"So now you are not you a mind reader but you do have more intuition that others."
Where have I said that? I missed that bit.
"You are like a person saying they don't like a player they have never seen or film they have never watched. "
Am I? Only in this instance I'm basing it on a feeling that I've experienced myself (call that evidence if you will) and am suggesting that maybe its how others feel as well, thats all. Not very good with these comparative examples are you?
"What you have is an opinion that people act in a certain way based on no evidence other than your gut feeling (intuition)."
You could say that. I'm not the first person on here to do that and won't be the last. Call it 'prejudice' if you want to go over the top, your choice.
"Am I? Only in this instance I'm basing it on a feeling that I've experienced myself"
Thank you for agreeing with me. It was just a feeling of yours, nothing else, as I said.
"You could say that. I'm not the first person on here to do that and won't be the last. Call it 'prejudice' if you want to go over the top, your choice."
Not over the top at all. Prejudice means to "pre-judge" ie to make a decision without evidence which is what you now agree you did.
And what does it matter if others did it or will do it? You did it and that's what we were talking about.
If these songs are only getting sung to wind up the percieved right on, looney leftie, pc gone mad type CL poster could someone explain why they were being aired long before the advent of this site or indeed the internet?
"Am I? Only in this instance I'm basing it on a feeling that I've experienced myself"
Thank you for agreeing with me. It was just a feeling of yours, nothing else, as I said.
"You could say that. I'm not the first person on here to do that and won't be the last. Call it 'prejudice' if you want to go over the top, your choice."
Not over the top at all. Prejudice means to "pre-judge" ie to make a decision without evidence which is what you now agree you did.
And what does it matter if others did it or will do it? You did it and that's what we were talking about.
"Am I? Only in this instance I'm basing it on a feeling that I've experienced myself"
Thank you for agreeing with me. It was just a feeling of yours, nothing else, as I said.
"You could say that. I'm not the first person on here to do that and won't be the last. Call it 'prejudice' if you want to go over the top, your choice."
Not over the top at all. Prejudice means to "pre-judge" ie to make a decision without evidence which is what you now agree you did.
And what does it matter if others did it or will do it? You did it and that's what we were talking about.
Bye bye now.
that's so ignorant and patronizing.
Nowhere near as ignorant as your views on homophobic chanting but that's just "my opinion" so you aren't allowed to disagree with me or call me a prick.
FFS guys, put the handbags down. It's 20 years ago today - this is a bit like having a silly row with the missus on your wedding anniversary. Love, peace, respect and tolerance should rule today.
FFS guys, put the handbags down. It's 20 years ago today - this is a bit like having a silly row with the missus on your wedding anniversary. Love, peace, respect and tolerance should rule today.
"Am I? Only in this instance I'm basing it on a feeling that I've experienced myself"
Thank you for agreeing with me. It was just a feeling of yours, nothing else, as I said.
"You could say that. I'm not the first person on here to do that and won't be the last. Call it 'prejudice' if you want to go over the top, your choice."
Not over the top at all. Prejudice means to "pre-judge" ie to make a decision without evidence which is what you now agree you did.
And what does it matter if others did it or will do it? You did it and that's what we were talking about.
Bye bye now.
that's so ignorant and patronizing.
Nowhere near as ignorant as your views on homophobic chanting but that's just "my opinion" so you aren't allowed to disagree with me or call me a prick.
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Thought your middle names were " Peter" and "Pan "
Remind me to give you a big ugg when I see you .
How about we wait until the match actually happens before putting people down for something that hasn't actually been done?
People clearly stated that the Homophobic songs "must be sung" to which others then said "no, the shouldn't".
And you then blame the people who say don't sing for somehow provoking the songs. Just bizarre logic.
By your way of thinking if someone says they are going to kill themselves you shouldnt say or do anything as that might encourage them, rather do something after they have done it.
One of them involves somebody who is struggling against the urges of killing themselves for whatever reason.
And the other is people singing Football songs to wind other people up.
Remember the abuse that Danny Murphy got in the Blackburn game this season? Had Charlton Life not gone into meltdown about what supposedly happened at Fulham then chances are the temptation to sing those songs wouldn't have been as strong.
Half the reason the incest song gets sung every week is to get up the back of those Charlton fans who say they shouldn't do it.
I'm also amazed that you "know" why people sing the incest song.
You claim on no presented evidence whatsoever is it to annoy other Charlton fans. Now that might be your reason for singing it in which case you need to have a long hard look at yourself but I'm not sure when you carried out the survey of fans as to their reasons for singing the song.
The Murphy argument is circular and collapses at the first logical approach.
Murphy has already been abused at Fulham BEFORE anything was said on CL. The same was repeated v Blackburn because some people still disliked Murphy for the same reasons they disliked him at the Fulham game. Comments on CL had nothing to do with it.
Again you are claiming that people sang that song for a reason for which you have no evidence whatsoever.
They welcome millwall fans and everything
If you tell someone not to press the big red button, more often than not - people get the urge to press it.
And yes, there is a bloke who sits near me who goes absolutely mad when he hears Charlton fans sing the incest song. He does my head in. Doesn't mean I sing it, but I do get the temptation to do it to make a point sometimes. I make the interpretation that there are probably others out there like me who feel the same.
Laughable.
And yes of course you need evidence to form an opinion otherwise it is just prejudice.
People have an opinion that player x is better than player y based on the evidence of their own eyes.
People have an opinion that film A is better than film B based on the evidence of their own eyes.
Others will form different opinions from the same evidence.
What you have is an opinion that people act in a certain way based on no evidence other than your gut feeling (intuition). You are like a person saying they don't like a player they have never seen or film they have never watched.
In short YOU MADE IT UP
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Where have I said that? I missed that bit.
"You are like a person saying they don't like a player they have never seen or film they have never watched. "
Am I? Only in this instance I'm basing it on a feeling that I've experienced myself (call that evidence if you will) and am suggesting that maybe its how others feel as well, thats all. Not very good with these comparative examples are you?
"What you have is an opinion that people act in a certain way based on no evidence other than your gut feeling (intuition)."
You could say that. I'm not the first person on here to do that and won't be the last. Call it 'prejudice' if you want to go over the top, your choice.
Anyone ?
"Am I? Only in this instance I'm basing it on a feeling that I've experienced myself"
Thank you for agreeing with me. It was just a feeling of yours, nothing else, as I said.
"You could say that. I'm not the first person on here to do that and won't be the last. Call it 'prejudice' if you want to go over the top, your choice."
Not over the top at all. Prejudice means to "pre-judge" ie to make a decision without evidence which is what you now agree you did.
And what does it matter if others did it or will do it? You did it and that's what we were talking about.
Bye bye now.
Bye bye now
Henry has the last word !