Thought that was a very different Charlton following to what came a couple of years ago. Seemed to be a lot more who seemed more keen for a bit of trouble.
To be honest it made for a better atmosphere and added a new dimension to this fixture. Thought you outsung us & our support was poor. That's what happens when a few thousand tag alongs come for a game a season.
Was surprised to see those flares & smoke bombs and the charge from your fans! Saw blokes running the length of the lower tier to get involved.
Not sure whether this steward & 12 year old girl thing is true, seems to be a baseless rumour.
As for the game, thought you were pretty poor attacking wise, although Hulse dominated Shittu, but defensively looked pretty solid, Leon Cort had a very good game I thought.
Can people stop comparing us with that muggy lot down the road. Things were thrown by about 10 people in a crowd of 3,600 and its the first time I've seen anything like it by our lot in years and years. Typical Charlton over reaction and its embarrassing.
We took this piss over there and don't forget it.
Sorry Plaaayer I make you wrong. One Charlton fan acting like a Millwall fan embarrasses me.
The human race must embarrass you then. Nothing like an over reaction to get the blood pumping on a Sunday.
SLL regarding your assessment of the team I think you are spot on. Our defence is awesome but we lack any quality in midfield which leaves our decent strike force looking for scraps.
Greenie Junior, what do you really expect, seeing as the Red Division all started the flares/smokebombs (I can't tell the difference) thing - which I haven't got a problem with. But that one was close to hitting a young innocent kid.
If it weren't you lot, then I take back the sarky remark.
The difference is a smoke grenade is SMOKE a flare is a big bright light
Then it *was* a flare that nearly hit the kid in my eyes. Either way I couldn't give a fuck what it was - something on fire nearly hitting a kid is out of order.
As I said before, I don't mind them, adds to the atmosphere - but that was reckless. The best thing was the chanting, 'Jeremy Kyle', 'Millwall's so quiet' and taking the piss out of the 'murrrrrr'. Great support.. really wound them up. Was definitely hairy outside - this was obviously before the escort, my point is a lot of the time out of the tiny percentage of CAFC who wanted a scrap - it would be those who didn't who took the stick. Especially there and how much we pissed them off. I make Rodney right about the difference in percentage of them/our fans who would get so wound up that they want to fight. It's Millwall ffs!
Fair comment SLL.
The return fixture is going to be one hell of a lot different now, and we all know it.
SLL regarding your assessment of the team I think you are spot on. Our defence is awesome but we lack any quality in midfield which leaves our decent strike force looking for scraps.
You were lacking a little bit in midfield, not much spark really. Hulse is a decent player.
Who were the two dwarfs on the right hand side? Felt we should've targeted your right backs lack of height a little better especially when N'Guessan came on, we lacked a bit of composure in the final 1/3.
Anyway, yesterday has turned this fixture into something a little more spicier which is good!
To be honest it made for a better atmosphere and added a new dimension to this fixture. .
That's the point i was trying to make. I agree the atmosphere was better and i will take an edgy hostile one over sterile happy clappy crowds any day but the point i was getting at is that the new dimension (I assume) you are referring to is that future games will now likely be more open to aggro after yesterday than in recent seasons.
And Id say that's not what many at Charlton want and it will not just be a bit of handbags and chest puffing like it is with the nigels.
I've spent far too long having the piss taken for being anoraks , it was a long time coming to make them look muppets in their own back yard. This derby should be a different affair from now onwards .
So there were a few Charlton dicks offering out at New Cross about 2:30? I saw a load of people running over that park behind the station and heard a lot of noise, but whatever it was was over pretty quickly.
Thanks to that though, I managed to get kettled with a load of Millwall louts, including getting held in one of the tunnels where the two of us were the only ones not singing or doing that stupid monosyllabic drone. Was a bit intimidating, then once through I found a group of coppers and went to the furthest away one to quietly ask where away fans go... Then the silly cow shouts the question at a colleague because she didn't know.
Didn't really see anything after, but we left a little before the main crowd and walked to Peckham.
Didn't they take the piss at ours last time? Storming entrances, issues with disabled fans, loads of away fans being vocal in home end etc. Anywhere else, I wouldn't be too chuffed about what happened yesterday but, as far as they're concerned, it was well overdue and seeing those muggy fans getting so angry was priceless. And no one got hurt did they?
Perfect sum up of the game Sparrows, two good defences meant the game wasn't much of a spectacle.
I thought the banter was good the Kyle song was great and the Mrrr pisstake was funny! But the morons who go to Jeremy Kyles waiting room cant handle verbal pisstakes so will sadly want to take it further! I'm not a fan of smoke bombs although they do add to the atmosphere but chucking a flair and chair on the pitch is overstepping the mark IMHO whoever the oppo is, if only for the repercussions to the club! It was so sad those two fat old gits that tried to have a pop outside the ground, laughable! Me, my bro and Greenie jnr got our heads down and walked down Zampa road unchallenged although the knuckle draggers were looking for a row! I mentioned to my brother that it was just like the 70,s & 80's down there! Nice to see they have grown up with the rest of the world! I've got two top mates who support millwall but I have to question why anyone with more than an average IQ would associate themselves with that club! Also, the racist comments reported shows how far they have come as a football club! I pity the decent supporters that they have!
SLL regarding your assessment of the team I think you are spot on. Our defence is awesome but we lack any quality in midfield which leaves our decent strike force looking for scraps.
Who were the two dwarfs on the right hand side? Felt we should've targeted your right backs lack of height a little better especially when N'Guessan came on, we lacked a bit of composure in the final 1/3.
To be honest it made for a better atmosphere and added a new dimension to this fixture. .
That's the point i was trying to make. I agree the atmosphere was better and i will take an edgy hostile one over sterile happy clappy crowds any day but the point i was getting at is that the new dimension (I assume) you are referring to is that future games will now likely be more open to aggro after yesterday than in recent seasons.
And Id say that's not what many at Charlton want and it will not just be a bit of handbags and chest puffing like it is with the nigels.
Know what you're getting at it. There will be more people out looking for trouble at the return game now. Whether they find it though is another thing.
Thought that was a very different Charlton following to what came a couple of years ago. Seemed to be a lot more who seemed more keen for a bit of trouble.
To be honest it made for a better atmosphere and added a new dimension to this fixture. Thought you outsung us & our support was poor. That's what happens when a few thousand tag alongs come for a game a season.
Was surprised to see those flares & smoke bombs and the charge from your fans! Saw blokes running the length of the lower tier to get involved.
Not sure whether this steward & 12 year old girl thing is true, seems to be a baseless rumour.
As for the game, thought you were pretty poor attacking wise, although Hulse dominated Shittu, but defensively looked pretty solid, Leon Cort had a very good game I thought.
We already have the moral high-ground, as a club and it's fans. We encourage family values and inclusion policies. We have been innovative (Curbs/Gritt dual coaches, Fans' Director, etc etc), and have survived the imposters that are triumph and disaster, with our reputation intact.
Why would we throw this away by throwing flares and smashing up seats in front of a club that preaches equality and fairness but will NEVER shake off its real identity.
I never saw a single non-white face in their crowd. After 20 minutes they started a ferocious fight among themselves. They abuse substitutes while warming up and throw coins. Their child mascot runs onto the pitch waving the idiots into battle. At the end, 60 year old men are waiting outside to pick fights. They are proud to say nobody likes them.
Fellow Charlton fans, we are better than this. Our vocal support is amazing, we had already won the day by silencing the neanderthals, but we made ourselves look cheap by stooping to their sub-human level.
Will be a different type of Millwall fan turn up at the Valley come march I imagine.
Before yesterday I think any millwall herbert found having a pop at a Charlton fan would get laughed at/ frowned upon by their own supporters in the same way if we had walked round dishing slaps out at Fulham last year. They will have an element now thinking any charlton fan that does anything other than walk with hands in their pockets staring at the ground will be fair game now I imagine and even then there will probably be idiots who will have a pop at the stereotypical anorak wearing supporters. I doubt well take the same numbers there next year and whilst ill go i think many on here will probably avoid the march game if they fear they could get caught up in aggro they dont want.
As much as me and Len glover/Muttley are chalk and cheese and have different views on what going to football is about I completely understand where they are coming from on this on this thread and i would have hated it after the game yesterday if I was with a child or woman or old person or someone who gets intimidated by that sort of thing. And even then as I was stone cold sober and not full of brave juice my only thought was just get your head down and get out of there without getting arrested or getting a slap as I dont go to football for that sort of stuff. Couldnt care less if whether that makes me a "melt" or whether it is just being streetwise and thinking Im not risking losing my career/ astounding good looks for having a row with some lemon who supports a different football club than me.
I wouldnt be very surprised, in fact I would bet my future mortgage on it, that the crowd there yesterday would be very different to the one they take to west ham or leeds. I'd say yesterday it was luck that no one got hurt yesterday more than millwall gone soft.
I'm no mug and can handle myself (to a degree) with the average football fan (not that Id ever see the need to) but there are people who live for opening people up at football and as i walked the wrong way with my mate after the game last night if a group of them had cottoned on we were charlton we would have taken a kicking despite not even being slightly interested in having a row.
That was nothing really what happened after the game yesterday....ive been in a lot more intimidating situations in and out of football but really it's just cos we dont see that sort of aggro at charlton anymore it seems like it "went off" but it was just handbags.
I imagine when they play teams like west ham and people get stabbed minding their own business etc it is a different ball game and an entirely different atmosphere than last night. I dont think we have the numbers of types of fans who want that sort of atmosphere at the valley for anything to happen other than charlton fans coming off a lot worse, and probably most who dont want to be involved in that sort of bollocks in the first place.
I hate them in a football rivalry sense and the scum element they have that misguidedly bully people because they play up to the rep.... but let's not get too high and mighty about looking down on the jeremy kyles they have....without a doubt they have a greater number of mouthy little chavs who are an embarrassment but some of the pond life from our lot i saw travelling to the game on the bus from london bridge acting up and giving it the biggun in their skinny jeans and poxy x factor hair cuts were properly cringeworthy.
They will continue to maintain they don't care about us, we're anorak mugs blah blah blah yet their 2 biggest home gates in 10 years were when we visited, they will sell out the Valley game in about 27 seconds and there's already a thread on their site looking forward to the return game.
One guy on one of their sites is so angry going on about us, then in the next post he mentioned he's got a 17 year old son. So this guy must be about 40, yet all he's going on about is smashing up Charlton in the return game. Laughable.
Also Sparrows, that dwarf on the right hand side is one of the best full backs in this division. Please do target him in the return game.
We already have the moral high-ground, as a club and it's fans. We encourage family values and inclusion policies. We have been innovative (Curbs/Gritt dual coaches, Fans' Director, etc etc), and have survived the imposters that are triumph and disaster, with our reputation intact.
Why would we throw this away by throwing flares and smashing up seats in front of a club that preaches equality and fairness but will NEVER shake off its real identity.
I never saw a single non-white face in their crowd. After 20 minutes they started a ferocious fight among themselves. They abuse substitutes while warming up and throw coins. Their child mascot runs onto the pitch waving the idiots into battle. At the end, 60 year old men are waiting outside to pick fights. They are proud to say nobody likes them.
Fellow Charlton fans, we are better than this. Our vocal support is amazing, we had already won the day by silencing the neanderthals, but we made ourselves look cheap by stooping to their sub-human level.
When you say "we" do you mean the two people that threw the flare/ripped out the chair or do you mean the 3,598 that didnt ?
That is exactly my point.
Nobody will differentiate, the 2 that did from the 3598 that didn't. Just like them, we (as a supporters group) will be thought of as troublemakers and vandals.
My non-white point is that whilst they preach anti-racism, there is little or no evidence of it among their supporters.
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To be honest it made for a better atmosphere and added a new dimension to this fixture. Thought you outsung us & our support was poor. That's what happens when a few thousand tag alongs come for a game a season.
Was surprised to see those flares & smoke bombs and the charge from your fans! Saw blokes running the length of the lower tier to get involved.
Not sure whether this steward & 12 year old girl thing is true, seems to be a baseless rumour.
As for the game, thought you were pretty poor attacking wise, although Hulse dominated Shittu, but defensively looked pretty solid, Leon Cort had a very good game I thought.
As I said before, I don't mind them, adds to the atmosphere - but that was reckless. The best thing was the chanting, 'Jeremy Kyle', 'Millwall's so quiet' and taking the piss out of the 'murrrrrr'. Great support.. really wound them up. Was definitely hairy outside - this was obviously before the escort, my point is a lot of the time out of the tiny percentage of CAFC who wanted a scrap - it would be those who didn't who took the stick. Especially there and how much we pissed them off. I make Rodney right about the difference in percentage of them/our fans who would get so wound up that they want to fight. It's Millwall ffs!
Fair comment SLL.
The return fixture is going to be one hell of a lot different now, and we all know it.
Who were the two dwarfs on the right hand side? Felt we should've targeted your right backs lack of height a little better especially when N'Guessan came on, we lacked a bit of composure in the final 1/3.
Anyway, yesterday has turned this fixture into something a little more spicier which is good!
And Id say that's not what many at Charlton want and it will not just be a bit of handbags and chest puffing like it is with the nigels.
Thanks to that though, I managed to get kettled with a load of Millwall louts, including getting held in one of the tunnels where the two of us were the only ones not singing or doing that stupid monosyllabic drone. Was a bit intimidating, then once through I found a group of coppers and went to the furthest away one to quietly ask where away fans go... Then the silly cow shouts the question at a colleague because she didn't know.
Didn't really see anything after, but we left a little before the main crowd and walked to Peckham.
Perfect sum up of the game Sparrows, two good defences meant the game wasn't much of a spectacle.
It was so sad those two fat old gits that tried to have a pop outside the ground, laughable! Me, my bro and Greenie jnr got our heads down and walked down Zampa road unchallenged although the knuckle draggers were looking for a row! I mentioned to my brother that it was just like the 70,s & 80's down there! Nice to see they have grown up with the rest of the world!
I've got two top mates who support millwall but I have to question why anyone with more than an average IQ would associate themselves with that club! Also, the racist comments reported shows how far they have come as a football club! I pity the decent supporters that they have!
He rattled their blonde mug.
Man love for that little guy.
We already have the moral high-ground, as a club and it's fans. We encourage family values and inclusion policies. We have been innovative (Curbs/Gritt dual coaches, Fans' Director, etc etc), and have survived the imposters that are triumph and disaster, with our reputation intact.
Why would we throw this away by throwing flares and smashing up seats in front of a club that preaches equality and fairness but will NEVER shake off its real identity.
I never saw a single non-white face in their crowd.
After 20 minutes they started a ferocious fight among themselves.
They abuse substitutes while warming up and throw coins.
Their child mascot runs onto the pitch waving the idiots into battle.
At the end, 60 year old men are waiting outside to pick fights.
They are proud to say nobody likes them.
Fellow Charlton fans, we are better than this. Our vocal support is amazing, we had already won the day by silencing the neanderthals, but we made ourselves look cheap by stooping to their sub-human level.
One guy on one of their sites is so angry going on about us, then in the next post he mentioned he's got a 17 year old son. So this guy must be about 40, yet all he's going on about is smashing up Charlton in the return game. Laughable.
Also Sparrows, that dwarf on the right hand side is one of the best full backs in this division. Please do target him in the return game.
Nobody will differentiate, the 2 that did from the 3598 that didn't. Just like them, we (as a supporters group) will be thought of as troublemakers and vandals.
My non-white point is that whilst they preach anti-racism, there is little or no evidence of it among their supporters.