Just in case anyone in the Boardroom, who may be under the notion that CAFC requires a different manager, is reading this, please let them consider that: Chris Powell is the embodiment of what CAFC is all about. We don't want snarlers and whingers and under-hand wheeler-dealers. We do want integrity, decency, approachability, and, most of all, someone who 'fits' our club. That man is Chris Powell.
The support from the stands was superb. Let's do this at every game and let anyone who is thinking of changing things know that Chris Powell is the fans' choice for the stewardship of our football club.
Until yesterday, we had conceded less goals than palace, even though they were 20 positions or so above us.. And if we hadnt conceded last night, we would have the 6th best defence in the league
Going by the championship table we haven't been in the bottom three yet this season. Why Chris Powells position was ever questioned is beyond me.
I don't think it has been questioned in a way. A small amount of idiots that know nothing about football make a stupid suggestion that Chris Powell should be sacked (idiots exist at all clubs, we are particularly embarrassed of our lot). This provokes an even more angry reaction from the normal Charlton fans that have a brain, so if anything its the reverse.
All in all Chris Powell has loads of support from Charlton fans and deservedly so.
signed a 3.5 year contract when he came (nearly 2 years ago now) but suspect the break clause ie how much we'd have to pay him is less than the full term of the contract.
A contract isn't worth much in relation to managers - they either stay or they go. I don't want him sacked, but I do want him to change things more quickly when they are not working. He could learn from Eddie Howe and Ian Holloway who understand that with 3 points for a win, it pays to be a bit bolder and decisive sometimes!
I think some defeats last season were down to him - Palace away and Sheff Wed at home spring to mind and this season Millwall at home feels like Powell is most to blame. Not for how he started the game but as in last season's errors - how he held off from affecting it!!!
A contract isn't worth much in relation to managers - they either stay or they go. I don't want him sacked, but I do want him to change things more quickly when they are not working. He could learn from Eddie Howe and Ian Holloway who understand that with 3 points for a win, it pays to be a bit bolder and decisive sometimes!
I think some defeats last season were down to him - Palace away and Sheff Wed at home spring to mind and this season Millwall at home feels like Powell is most to blame. Not for how he started the game but as in last season's errors - how he held off from affecting it!!!
If you've got those players. Not sure Harriot or Sordell are matchwinners, jury's out on Stewart although there's a player there for sure. I still think we're short of a real take-the-game-by-the-scruff-of-the-neck midfielder, in the mould of Kinsella or Parker.
We have no money. The same idiots who say that he should be doing better with or without money almost certainly said the same thing of Parkinson. Ridiculous. We lose Powell, we go down. Because I don't believe anyone else could do any better, but would certainly do worse. We all end up where we belong.
I'm not saying sack him. I still think is the best man to be in the hot seat and is an asset at the club. However, the mistakes he made last year, he is doing them again. So negative at home again. We needed to attack them yesterday and the 2 wingers should of played so much longer than they did. 3 home derby defeats under Powell and all played with no bottle. 95% support for me for Powell. I hope he learns from his mistakes. With the team we've got I'm not holding out much hope for a change of philosophy.
Powell - 352 without a decent striker does not work. The formation should fit to the players available. 442 would have been better with players and situation (easy to say with hindsight). 442 with quick wingers, a wound up Sordell and Piggott / Church may have worked. Cousins and Jackson in midfield. Pritchard to start right midfield / with option of Harriots if nothing happening.
Formation should have changed at half time.
Though, it may be that 442 with the second string / youngster / last minute.com default strikers we have at the club would not have worked either.
Owners - leaving the club with threadbare squad with no quality back up for main players and only one proper striker will prove to be a disaster (for their investment, club and fans) that carries a very high risk of relegation. That is the situation whoever the manager is.
Would another decent manager, put themselves into this situation, where there is no money to spend ? I can only see Gus Poyet and he is in legal dispute with Brighton over the termination of his contract. Whoever manages has a threadbare squad that is at high risk of losing every time one of our main players gets injured / suspended. There is no guarantee that any change of manager would prevent relegation.
"We lose Powell, we go down" is a very good phrase to explain our position. He's a really good young manager whose still learning and yes he makes mistakes, but I think everyones forgetting than in his two full seasons we won League 1 with triple figure points and last season finished in the top half of the table with a team barely changed from League 1. Give him time to do his magic and I believe he'll pull us through.
I would give him until Christmas. If by then the team is still playing rubbish football and losing he should be sacked and Hart should take over as caretaker. Football is a results business and there is no place for nostalgia or to give lovely guys like Powell umpteen chances to come good. I hate to say this, but I have a feeling that Powell has lost a lot of confidence and faith both in his own ability and in his players. If he does not restore this faith, he must go, as another relegation would be very very VERY bad for CAFC
I would give him until Christmas. If by then the team is still playing rubbish football and losing he should be sacked and Hart should take over as caretaker. Football is a results business and there is no place for nostalgia or to give lovely guys like Powell umpteen chances to come good. I hate to say this, but I have a feeling that Powell has lost a lot of confidence and faith both in his own ability and in his players. If he does not restore this faith, he must go, as another relegation would be very very VERY bad for CAFC
I still maintain that the lack of contract talks for the majority of our squad is playing an integral part in how they perform on the pitch.
And of course, the gaffer too is in the same precarious situation .
SO many ingredients in this worrying situation at our Club and for those we love within it....
I would give him until Christmas. If by then the team is still playing rubbish football and losing he should be sacked and Hart should take over as caretaker. Football is a results business and there is no place for nostalgia or to give lovely guys like Powell umpteen chances to come good. I hate to say this, but I have a feeling that Powell has lost a lot of confidence and faith both in his own ability and in his players. If he does not restore this faith, he must go, as another relegation would be very very VERY bad for CAFC
I still maintain that the lack of contract talks for the majority of our squad is playing an integral part in how they perform on the pitch.
And of course, the gaffer too is in the same precarious situation .
SO many ingredients in this worrying situation at our Club and for those we love within it....
you know the behind the scenes workings of and emotions within the club very well FF .. you are probably right .. I am simply going on results and performances .. inconsistency in player performance and tactics is to my mind a result of wayward management irrespective of behind the scenes worries .. BUT, of course, a worried mind all too often concentrates on the wrong things .. roll on Burnley .. lets give it to the Claret and Blues once again .. far away from the cares of 'home'
I think he had a shocker yesterday. But so did everyone. Last time we were talking like this was post millwall last season. We need unity now so i support him 100% as always. He always comes good in the end.
I would give him until Christmas. If by then the team is still playing rubbish football and losing he should be sacked and Hart should take over as caretaker. Football is a results business and there is no place for nostalgia or to give lovely guys like Powell umpteen chances to come good. I hate to say this, but I have a feeling that Powell has lost a lot of confidence and faith both in his own ability and in his players. If he does not restore this faith, he must go, as another relegation would be very very VERY bad for CAFC
I still maintain that the lack of contract talks for the majority of our squad is playing an integral part in how they perform on the pitch.
And of course, the gaffer too is in the same precarious situation .
SO many ingredients in this worrying situation at our Club and for those we love within it....
you know the behind the scenes workings of and emotions within the club very well FF .. you are probably right .. I am simply going on results and performances .. inconsistency in player performance and tactics is to my mind a result of wayward management irrespective of behind the scenes worries .. BUT, of course, a worried mind all too often concentrates on the wrong things .. roll on Burnley .. lets give it to the Claret and Blues once again .. far away from the cares of 'home'
At the Eltham Addicks meeting Yann mentioned that his contract situation did play on his mind and I'd imagine he isn't the only one.
I would give him until Christmas. If by then the team is still playing rubbish football and losing he should be sacked and Hart should take over as caretaker. Football is a results business and there is no place for nostalgia or to give lovely guys like Powell umpteen chances to come good. I hate to say this, but I have a feeling that Powell has lost a lot of confidence and faith both in his own ability and in his players. If he does not restore this faith, he must go, as another relegation would be very very VERY bad for CAFC
I still maintain that the lack of contract talks for the majority of our squad is playing an integral part in how they perform on the pitch.
And of course, the gaffer too is in the same precarious situation .
SO many ingredients in this worrying situation at our Club and for those we love within it....
you know the behind the scenes workings of and emotions within the club very well FF .. you are probably right .. I am simply going on results and performances .. inconsistency in player performance and tactics is to my mind a result of wayward management irrespective of behind the scenes worries .. BUT, of course, a worried mind all too often concentrates on the wrong things .. roll on Burnley .. lets give it to the Claret and Blues once again .. far away from the cares of 'home'
I honestly know very little more than you, Lincs but I take your point.
I too am concerned about the tactics at the moment and what effect that is having on those tasked to go with them on the pitch , After Hudds , I stated that I hoped to see at least 1 of Harriot, Cousins & Stewart starting yesterday with roles for the other 2 as required. I also feared for young Joe being thrown into the Lion's "den" but also hoped that Marvin would be rested - of course unless the gaffer played 1 up front (and received the howls of derision which would have met that decision) it inevitably had to be or the other. The lack of strength & depth and financial clout is definitely starting to plays its part.
I know it's his job and what he gets paid for ( probably not enough if what is rumoured is true) but the extra pressure on SCP at this moment in time must be immense. We read only too often about managers being given the first 10 games or so of a season to prove they're the man for the task in hand & I do worry that the finger on the trigger may be hovering if he fails to get results sooner rather than later.
I would give him until Christmas. If by then the team is still playing rubbish football and losing he should be sacked and Hart should take over as caretaker. Football is a results business and there is no place for nostalgia or to give lovely guys like Powell umpteen chances to come good. I hate to say this, but I have a feeling that Powell has lost a lot of confidence and faith both in his own ability and in his players. If he does not restore this faith, he must go, as another relegation would be very very VERY bad for CAFC
I think this is an excellent idea. Sack Powell who has a 44% win percentage, league championship and promotion on his CV, and who has guided the club he knows inside out to consecutive higher league positions.
Take one of the best youth coaches in the county away from the youth team and make him manager where his record stands at 30% win percentage, 3 relegations, sacked 5 times and no promotions.
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Chris Powell is the embodiment of what CAFC is all about. We don't want snarlers and whingers and under-hand wheeler-dealers.
We do want integrity, decency, approachability, and, most of all, someone who 'fits' our club. That man is Chris Powell.
The support from the stands was superb. Let's do this at every game and let anyone who is thinking of changing things know that Chris Powell is the fans' choice for the stewardship of our football club.
Until yesterday, we had conceded less goals than palace, even though they were 20 positions or so above us..
And if we hadnt conceded last night, we would have the 6th best defence in the league
All in all Chris Powell has loads of support from Charlton fans and deservedly so.
I think some defeats last season were down to him - Palace away and Sheff Wed at home spring to mind and this season Millwall at home feels like Powell is most to blame. Not for how he started the game but as in last season's errors - how he held off from affecting it!!!
However, the mistakes he made last year, he is doing them again. So negative at home again. We needed to attack them yesterday and the 2 wingers should of played so much longer than they did. 3 home derby defeats under Powell and all played with no bottle.
95% support for me for Powell. I hope he learns from his mistakes. With the team we've got I'm not holding out much hope for a change of philosophy.
Formation should have changed at half time.
Though, it may be that 442 with the second string / youngster / last minute.com default strikers we have at the club would not have worked either.
Owners - leaving the club with threadbare squad with no quality back up for main players and only one proper striker will prove to be a disaster (for their investment, club and fans) that carries a very high risk of relegation. That is the situation whoever the manager is.
Would another decent manager, put themselves into this situation, where there is no money to spend ? I can only see Gus Poyet and he is in legal dispute with Brighton over the termination of his contract. Whoever manages has a threadbare squad that is at high risk of losing every time one of our main players gets injured / suspended. There is no guarantee that any change of manager would prevent relegation.
Football is a results business and there is no place for nostalgia or to give lovely guys like Powell umpteen chances to come good.
I hate to say this, but I have a feeling that Powell has lost a lot of confidence and faith both in his own ability and in his players. If he does not restore this faith, he must go, as another relegation would be very very VERY bad for CAFC
And of course, the gaffer too is in the same precarious situation .
SO many ingredients in this worrying situation at our Club and for those we love within it....
I too am concerned about the tactics at the moment and what effect that is having on those tasked to go with them on the pitch , After Hudds , I stated that I hoped to see at least 1 of Harriot, Cousins & Stewart starting yesterday with roles for the other 2 as required. I also feared for young Joe being thrown into the Lion's "den" but also hoped that Marvin would be rested - of course unless the gaffer played 1 up front (and received the howls of derision which would have met that decision) it inevitably had to be or the other. The lack of strength & depth and financial clout is definitely starting to plays its part.
I know it's his job and what he gets paid for ( probably not enough if what is rumoured is true) but the extra pressure on SCP at this moment in time must be immense. We read only too often about managers being given the first 10 games or so of a season to prove they're the man for the task in hand & I do worry that the finger on the trigger may be hovering if he fails to get results sooner rather than later.
But, ultimately, in SCP I trust.
Take one of the best youth coaches in the county away from the youth team and make him manager where his record stands at 30% win percentage, 3 relegations, sacked 5 times and no promotions.
GREAT PLAN!