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  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,240
    Not new but 'new' to me-  The Office US.

    I watched the 1st season years ago but didn't really rate it as I think I was comparing it with the UK version too much in my mind. I tried it again recently after seeing a few on here rate it, and forgetting the comparison I just enjoyed it as its own series. I'm up to the final season now and really glad I gave it another try. So many proper laugh out loud and cringe moments.
    The first season does have a lot of the same jokes and situations as the British version, but it becomes its own thing after that. 
    A truly excellent show for 6 out of 9 seasons, but really didn’t work half as well after Steve Carell left. Some of the Andy Bernard stuff was just plain awful and the whole Robert California storyline was just idiotic.
    But by Steve Carell leaving you got D'Angelo 

    The whole thing for me is just a vehicle for Dwight K Schrute, its a ballad of comedic excellence. Rainn Wilson was born to play the role. The fire drill episode still gets me and I've seen the whole lot multiple times 

    @AFKABartram its on prime and Netflix and also shown on comedy central. 

    Can't recommend the experience of the US office enough 
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,143
    Davo55 said:
    We've massively overdone watching TV during lockdown but when the only other excitement is going to buy food it's understandable. We are really enjoying Spiral (French, first series 2005) and Amsterdam Vice (Dutch, recent). I don't much like sub-titles as you lose a lot of the richness of the dialogue, but these are good enough to make that worthwhile.
    Ah good, I was wondering about Amsterdam Vice, will add that. Lucky you , that you are only on series 1 of Spiral. You have seven more to come, and I’m here to tell you that it never flags for a moment. And best of all, if my memory serves me well, you still have not encountered Audrey Fleurot...

  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,958
    I am currently rewatching Spiral and am just finishing Series 5. Audrey Fleurot is in series 1 @PragueAddick
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,030
    Carter said:
    Not new but 'new' to me-  The Office US.

    I watched the 1st season years ago but didn't really rate it as I think I was comparing it with the UK version too much in my mind. I tried it again recently after seeing a few on here rate it, and forgetting the comparison I just enjoyed it as its own series. I'm up to the final season now and really glad I gave it another try. So many proper laugh out loud and cringe moments.
    The first season does have a lot of the same jokes and situations as the British version, but it becomes its own thing after that. 
    A truly excellent show for 6 out of 9 seasons, but really didn’t work half as well after Steve Carell left. Some of the Andy Bernard stuff was just plain awful and the whole Robert California storyline was just idiotic.
    But by Steve Carell leaving you got D'Angelo 

    The whole thing for me is just a vehicle for Dwight K Schrute, its a ballad of comedic excellence. Rainn Wilson was born to play the role. The fire drill episode still gets me and I've seen the whole lot multiple times 

    @AFKABartram its on prime and Netflix and also shown on comedy central. 

    Can't recommend the experience of the US office enough 
    I’m going back through the US Office at the moment and saw the fire drill episode the other day, the whole episode is fantastic but that opening few minutes is genuinely laugh out loud funny. 

    Rainn Wilson is brilliant. 
  • rina
    rina Posts: 2,334
    Dwight is without a doubt one of the greatest comic creations in history. So, so many great moments
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,832
    Grace is new series starting tonight on ITV. 
    Have read a few of the books years back so be I interested to see how John Simm plays him. 

    I know @Algarveaddick reads all the books  - thoughts on Simm in main role ? 
  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,836
    Davo55 said:
    We've massively overdone watching TV during lockdown but when the only other excitement is going to buy food it's understandable. We are really enjoying Spiral (French, first series 2005) and Amsterdam Vice (Dutch, recent). I don't much like sub-titles as you lose a lot of the richness of the dialogue, but these are good enough to make that worthwhile.
    Ah good, I was wondering about Amsterdam Vice, will add that. Lucky you , that you are only on series 1 of Spiral. You have seven more to come, and I’m here to tell you that it never flags for a moment. And best of all, if my memory serves me well, you still have not encountered Audrey Fleurot...

    We're on Series 3 now and, yes, Audrey is fantastic.

    Funny enough she also features in Call my Agent (Netflix, French) which is good too. Light comedy.
  • Hallway through your Honor & absolutely hooked.  
  • garfield
    garfield Posts: 336
    MrOneLung said:
    Grace is new series starting tonight on ITV. 
    Have read a few of the books years back so be I interested to see how John Simm plays him. 

    I know @Algarveaddick reads all the books  - thoughts on Simm in main role ? 
    The filming for Grace was based at Brighton Racecourse, really lovely people can’t wait to see it.
  • robinofottershaw
    robinofottershaw Posts: 1,921
    edited March 2021
    Read all the Grace books. I visualise Grace as being a tall burly guy so be interested to see how John Simm comes over in the role.

    I was on a flight back from the States about 5 years ago and one of the crew saw me reading one of the books. She said an ex-colleague had married Peter James, the author of the books. I remember saying to her that the books were tailor made for a TV series.
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  • Read all the Grace books. I visualise Grace as being a tall burly guy so be interested to see how John Simm comes over in the role.

    I was on a flight back from the States about 5 years ago and one of the crew saw me reading one of the books. She said an ex-colleague had married Peter James, the author of the books. I remember saying to her that the books were tailor made for a TV series.
    I have read a couple of the books but some years ago so had no recollection of how Grace was portrayed.

    Sadly, I thought the whole 2 hours was an extremely poor watch.

    For a well known, respected actor like John Simm to come across as wooden & totally lacking in character of any kind, was a huge disappointment. 

    In fact, the acting in general was sadly below par IMO.

    We rarely watch ITV drama so am not very surprised by the quality of this episode, although Unforgotten is by far the best for some time on that channel. 

    Interested to hear the views of those who are far more familiar with the RG novels. 
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,142
    I shall catch up tonight. Interesting that @robinofottershaw sees Grace that way, I thought in the books he is actually described as average height and build?  
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,143
    Davo55 said:
    Davo55 said:
    We've massively overdone watching TV during lockdown but when the only other excitement is going to buy food it's understandable. We are really enjoying Spiral (French, first series 2005) and Amsterdam Vice (Dutch, recent). I don't much like sub-titles as you lose a lot of the richness of the dialogue, but these are good enough to make that worthwhile.
    Ah good, I was wondering about Amsterdam Vice, will add that. Lucky you , that you are only on series 1 of Spiral. You have seven more to come, and I’m here to tell you that it never flags for a moment. And best of all, if my memory serves me well, you still have not encountered Audrey Fleurot...

    We're on Series 3 now and, yes, Audrey is fantastic.

    Funny enough she also features in Call my Agent (Netflix, French) which is good too. Light comedy.
    Yes, Started on that recently, and like it a lot. I wasn't quite sure at first, but it seems that a hook of the series is, that in each episode a real life famous French actor plays her/himself. But until Audrey appeared, the previous ones were unknown to me (e.g Cecile de France in the very first episode - but she was very good). They are flagged up towards the end of the opening title sequence with "avec le participation de..." 

    I finally tracked down Amsterdam Vice last night and watched the first episode. definitely adding it to my 'roster'.

    Line of Duty 6 this Sunday, is that right?
  • hawksmoor
    hawksmoor Posts: 2,608
    Yep, Sunday at 9pm.
  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 7,733
    edited March 2021
    Read all the Grace books. I visualise Grace as being a tall burly guy so be interested to see how John Simm comes over in the role.

    I was on a flight back from the States about 5 years ago and one of the crew saw me reading one of the books. She said an ex-colleague had married Peter James, the author of the books. I remember saying to her that the books were tailor made for a TV series.
    I've seen a couple of Crime dramas recently where there has been a recurring theme where the main investigator has a 'missing' wife or partner.
  • hawksmoor
    hawksmoor Posts: 2,608
    Yeah, Bloodlands being another one, Suede.
  • Read all the Grace books. I visualise Grace as being a tall burly guy so be interested to see how John Simm comes over in the role.

    I was on a flight back from the States about 5 years ago and one of the crew saw me reading one of the books. She said an ex-colleague had married Peter James, the author of the books. I remember saying to her that the books were tailor made for a TV series.
    I have read a couple of the books but some years ago so had no recollection of how Grace was portrayed.

    Sadly, I thought the whole 2 hours was an extremely poor watch.

    For a well known, respected actor like John Simm to come across as wooden & totally lacking in character of any kind, was a huge disappointment. 

    In fact, the acting in general was sadly below par IMO.

    We rarely watch ITV drama so am not very surprised by the quality of this episode, although Unforgotten is by far the best for some time on that channel. 

    Interested to hear the views of those who are far more familiar with the RG novels. 


    I think that if you've read a novel, the TV production usually tends to be a disappointment. I suppose you have already created the characters and situations in your head so that what is served up on the screen won't match up to your imagination! Its also difficult to cram a novel in to a 2 hour drama. And producers love to tinker. I watched all the Morse series before I read the novels and I enjoyed both immensely. But the plots in the Tv series seemed radically different from the books sometimes.

    But I was disappointed with acting last night as well as some too implausible aspects of the plot.

  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,554
    I enjoyed Grace and thought it was very well acted. Having read all of the Grace books Roy wasn't exactly what I'd expected but everyone has different perceptions of characters so others may have different opinions. I know another has been filmed so it will be interesting to see how the characters progress and how their relationships with each other evolve. I hope that eventually they go to cover all the books in the series. Peter James is a great author and the Grace novels are perfect for TV adaptation.
  • Addickinedi
    Addickinedi Posts: 149
    Binge watched Marcella and wished I hadn't. What nonsense unless the producers believe their audience suspend credibility. Was their intention just to aim for a further series!
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,832
    I thought this series of Marcella was watchable until that final episode
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  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,832
    Bloodlands obviously written with a second series in mind.
    yet another incredulous ending
  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,435
    Read all the Grace books. I visualise Grace as being a tall burly guy so be interested to see how John Simm comes over in the role.

    I was on a flight back from the States about 5 years ago and one of the crew saw me reading one of the books. She said an ex-colleague had married Peter James, the author of the books. I remember saying to her that the books were tailor made for a TV series.
    I have read a couple of the books but some years ago so had no recollection of how Grace was portrayed.

    Sadly, I thought the whole 2 hours was an extremely poor watch.

    For a well known, respected actor like John Simm to come across as wooden & totally lacking in character of any kind, was a huge disappointment. 

    In fact, the acting in general was sadly below par IMO.

    We rarely watch ITV drama so am not very surprised by the quality of this episode, although Unforgotten is by far the best for some time on that channel. 

    Interested to hear the views of those who are far more familiar with the RG novels. 


    I think that if you've read a novel, the TV production usually tends to be a disappointment. I suppose you have already created the characters and situations in your head so that what is served up on the screen won't match up to your imagination! Its also difficult to cram a novel in to a 2 hour drama. And producers love to tinker. I watched all the Morse series before I read the novels and I enjoyed both immensely. But the plots in the Tv series seemed radically different from the books sometimes.

    But I was disappointed with acting last night as well as some too implausible aspects of the plot.

    I generally tend to agree with that. One notable exception for me in recent years is Bosch. Having read the novels (excellent, btw), the casting - not just of the main character, but of the supporting cast (Billets, Jerry, Crate & Barrel but most surprisingly, Irving - who I originally had trouble picturing in my head) was absolutely spot on. 
  • hawksmoor
    hawksmoor Posts: 2,608
    MrOneLung said:
    Bloodlands obviously written with a second series in mind.
    yet another incredulous ending
    'He shot the woman with a 9mm, I know you said I was Goliath, but he must Goliath, don't you think?' 'Yes.'
  • johnnybev1987
    johnnybev1987 Posts: 11,410
    Your Honor - Sky Atlantic / Box sets or NOWTV
    about 4/ episodes in, really enjoying how its unfolding, i wouldn't take it too serious eg. some points you are literally thinking silly idiot, or what are you doing. But without dissecting everything its a decent watch and so far so good.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,972
    MrOneLung said:
    Bloodlands obviously written with a second series in mind.
    yet another incredulous ending
    The last two episodes were pants.
  • robinofottershaw
    robinofottershaw Posts: 1,921
    edited March 2021
    I shall catch up tonight. Interesting that @robinofottershaw sees Grace that way, I thought in the books he is actually described as average height and build?  
    Like you I will likely watch it tomorrow night. 

    I guess I think of him as being a big man because in a number of the books they mention his involvement with the police rugby team. I therefore have this image of him as a forward rather than a back, although all pro rugby players are pretty big nowadays!
  • Finished Series 6 of Last Chance U on Netflix - interesting storylines and characters as per the other series. The coach is a really impressive person and the series is ultimately impacted by Covid.
    Not as brutal as some of the previous series given that this one is on basketball rather than American Football. It again shows how competitive American sport is.
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,821
    I know it’s hard not to and can also be done without thinking, but please try and not give spoilers to programmes that are current / recent. Cheers 
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,832
    Finished Series 6 of Last Chance U on Netflix - interesting storylines and characters as per the other series. The coach is a really impressive person and the series is ultimately impacted by Covid.
    Not as brutal as some of the previous series given that this one is on basketball rather than American Football. It again shows how competitive American sport is.
    Hoping to watch and episode or two tomorrow
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,958
    I know it’s hard not to and can also be done without thinking, but please try and not give spoilers to programmes that are current / recent. Cheers 
    This. I was annoyed when someone told me the outcome of the Titanic.

    :)