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  • The supercomputer has spoken

    Is this a new form of AI that can tell what happens in the the future? 
  • bobmunro said:
    LenGlover said:
    I'd take 21st now. Anything better will constitute a good season. Relegation (ie lower than 21st) a poor one.

    I would say disastrous rather than poor. We must not go down or I would fear for our future.
    Upto the rich owners then lend us a fiver in the transfer market with all them billions.
  • Steven81 said:
    bobmunro said:
    LenGlover said:
    I'd take 21st now. Anything better will constitute a good season. Relegation (ie lower than 21st) a poor one.

    I would say disastrous rather than poor. We must not go down or I would fear for our future.
    Upto the rich owners then lend us a fiver in the transfer market with all them billions.
    All depends on what you’ve got coming in. FFP much stricter on the championship. 

    There’s rumours at Millwall that young James Berylson would actually like to pump more money in to the team and really go for it but his hands are tied because of this. 
  • Winning the league





    Avoiding relegation is a success in our first season

  • Winning the league





    Avoiding relegation is a success in our first season

    Life is too short to have that sort of negative approach before the season has even started 
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  • Until we see the results of the transfers in and out, we can not guess how the season will pan out.
    All we know is as usual we are later than many of our rivals in getting our transfer targets in.
  • msomerton said:
    Until we see the results of the transfers in and out, we can not guess how the season will pan out.
    All we know is as usual we are later than many of our rivals in getting our transfer targets in.
    Are we? Signings so far by our potential rivals this season 

    Charlton: 1 
    Oxford: 0 
    Sheffield Wednesday: 0
    Wrexham: 1 
    Derby: 1 
    Preston: 5 
    Hull: 4 
    Portsmouth: 1 
    QPR: 3

    Yes a couple of clubs have done some business but we aren’t really any different to the majority in not having signed many yet, and that’s not even considering our season finished weeks after all of theirs 
  • Steven81 said:
    bobmunro said:
    LenGlover said:
    I'd take 21st now. Anything better will constitute a good season. Relegation (ie lower than 21st) a poor one.

    I would say disastrous rather than poor. We must not go down or I would fear for our future.
    Upto the rich owners then lend us a fiver in the transfer market with all them billions.
    All depends on what you’ve got coming in. FFP much stricter on the championship. 

    There’s rumours at Millwall that young James Berylson would actually like to pump more money in to the team and really go for it but his hands are tied because of this. 
     Convenient 😉
  • NabySarr said:
    msomerton said:
    Until we see the results of the transfers in and out, we can not guess how the season will pan out.
    All we know is as usual we are later than many of our rivals in getting our transfer targets in.
    Are we? Signings so far by our potential rivals this season 

    Charlton: 1 
    Oxford: 0 
    Sheffield Wednesday: 0
    Wrexham: 1 
    Derby: 1 
    Preston: 5 
    Hull: 4 
    Portsmouth: 1 
    QPR: 3

    Yes a couple of clubs have done some business but we aren’t really any different to the majority in not having signed many yet, and that’s not even considering our season finished weeks after all of theirs 
    Millwall 2, including breaking their record transfer fee, set last season.  Norwich, have made a signing, Derby have made a so called statement signing. The transfer window is in full swing. 
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  • edited June 27
    NabySarr said:
    msomerton said:
    Until we see the results of the transfers in and out, we can not guess how the season will pan out.
    All we know is as usual we are later than many of our rivals in getting our transfer targets in.
    Are we? Signings so far by our potential rivals this season 

    Charlton: 1 
    Oxford: 0 
    Sheffield Wednesday: 0
    Wrexham: 1 
    Derby: 1 
    Preston: 5 
    Hull: 4 
    Portsmouth: 1 
    QPR: 3

    Yes a couple of clubs have done some business but we aren’t really any different to the majority in not having signed many yet, and that’s not even considering our season finished weeks after all of theirs 
    We can't be compared to these clubs though bar Wrexham as they are all at least 1 full championship season ahead of us with squads full of championship quality players.

    If we were in League1 still I would agree, but we are playing catch up. 

    Let's see anyway, looking like another week without a signing, would be amazed if we go another week without one.
  • NabySarr said:
    msomerton said:
    Until we see the results of the transfers in and out, we can not guess how the season will pan out.
    All we know is as usual we are later than many of our rivals in getting our transfer targets in.
    Are we? Signings so far by our potential rivals this season 

    Charlton: 1 
    Oxford: 0 
    Sheffield Wednesday: 0
    Wrexham: 1 
    Derby: 1 
    Preston: 5 
    Hull: 4 
    Portsmouth: 1 
    QPR: 3

    Yes a couple of clubs have done some business but we aren’t really any different to the majority in not having signed many yet, and that’s not even considering our season finished weeks after all of theirs 
    We can't be compared to these clubs though bar Wrexham as they are all at least 1 full championship season ahead of us with squads full of championship quality players.

    If we were in League1 still I would agree, but we are playing catch up. 

    Let's see anyway, looking like another week without a signing, would be amazed if we go another week without one.
    Think the last sentence is most important. If Cawley is right and we’re back in pre season training on 7th July then it ultimately doesn’t matter if they signed 5 weeks ago or on the 6th of July. We just like to see it early because we find it exciting 
  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLihyYrmCGE

    An interesting video using AI to rank the Championship clubs by size. The results seem fair other than for Derby, and yes we are ranked higher than a certain other SE London side  :)
  • edited June 27
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLihyYrmCGE

    An interesting video using AI to rank the Championship clubs by size. The results seem fair other than for Derby, and yes we are ranked higher than a certain other SE London side  :)

    Judging the size of clubs can be taken so many ways.
    I would say we are a similar size club to QPR, Birmingham being noticeably in front of us, but we are miles behind Wednesday.
  • My only expectation is that we stay up without a relegation fight. If we carry on how we were at the end of the season I think that’s more than possible. 

    Expecting us to be able to push for promotion this (or next) season is ridiculous. The Championship is probably the hardest league to play in, and we will need time to shape the right squad if we want to be promoted to and then stay in the Premiership. 

    Our hopes have to be realistic, and it’s all about the timescale. Premier League football is eminently possible, but only if the owners are not mad, bad or Belgian (or a combination of the three) and the Manager has a plan and some nous - and crucially nobody is too eager to run before they can walk. 
  • I’m hoping we can be competitive, not get relegated and build the team over the next couple of seasons into a squad pushing towards promotion. Oh and a few great results against some of our old enemies lol
  • 4th from bottom will be good enough. It’s a marathon, not a sprint. 
  • edited June 28
    BigDiddy said:
    4th from bottom will be good enough. It’s a marathon, not a sprint. 
    It would be good enough but if you aim for 4th from bottom your more likely going to fail and not set yourself up right,getting beat and morale going downhill does alot to teams as we all know from some of our own runs when we couldn't buy a point,trying to get mid table and the personel in would give us a better chance of surviving and not scraping the barrel of impending doom every week.
  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLihyYrmCGE

    An interesting video using AI to rank the Championship clubs by size. The results seem fair other than for Derby, and yes we are ranked higher than a certain other SE London side  :)

    Judging the size of clubs can be taken so many ways.
    I would say we are a similar size club to QPR, Birmingham being noticeably in front of us, but we are miles behind Wednesday.
    I’m assuming you’re judging Birmingham based on the sudden stature they have achieved under these high profile owners? 

    Prior to that, they have hardly won anything of note, not dissimilar league history/ status to us and in the championship generally around 15-20k average crowd which is what we would/ will have at championship level. 
  • BigDiddy said:
    4th from bottom will be good enough. It’s a marathon, not a sprint. 
    Thinking the same and couldnt care less who the three teams below us are!!! 
    There’s quite a few “bigger than us” but under performing teams in the division… all circling the plug hole over the last two or three seasons. We’ve just gotta keep positive and trust the players to come good.
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  • If we go into the last month of the season not fearing the chop it will have been a huge success.
  • I hope that we can recruit well enough to stay up, but judgement stays reserved on that until I see who we get through the door. Several of the names mentioned so far feel like they have us on the right track, but we're naturally going to be competing for a lot of the same kind of players. I hope that we can compete financially for them, and suggestions elsewhere on here give me some hope for that. However, when players like Small (or potential signings) get the glint of coin in their eyes, it is in this aspect when I feel like we might struggle to get enough quality.

    Defensively, we should be fine if we bring in some cover and get a solid keeper in. Like when Jones first came in, we'll need to be tough to break down. More scrappy Jonesball, more tight games and more games decided by a goal or two. We might take a few beatings against teams that have genuine quality and pace, but it's of greater importance we are hard to beat against the teams like Hull etc. that will be down in the scrap.

    It's in the top end of the pitch I have more concerns, and where most investment will need to happen. Godden cannot be left isolated if we start with him, and will need much more support. He's still got enough quality to score goals at this level, but much like Berry last year, we'll probably need to be careful with his minutes. Other players will need to step up or be brought in. Again, we're not going to be favoured in many games this season, but we need to take the limited chances we will probably get and build upon solid home form, as we did last year. A few sneaky away wins would be massive.

    I hope we can stay up, but with both other L1 promotees having silly money, it's looking around at at least a couple of established Championship sides going down. This naturally makes our job harder. I think having a strong manager and core defensive unit should be enough - it's just whether we can score enough goals to stay up. It's not my money (so it's easy to say), but I would spend as aggressively now as we can afford to give us breathing room pre-January.

    Not going to be easy, by any stretch. Signings we make in the next month or so, and their ability to embed, will make the difference.
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