I can't believe that I am doing it or that Leroy needs anyone defending him but he is right that this Murdoch empire is a real concern. Politicians and those in high profile are scared of challenging him because he has a pack of journo hyenas lined up to to sniff out any skeleton in their closet or no doubt worse and fabricate something. Been acting above the law for years now as this scandal will show.
Don't worry about the politicians, the Old Bill have been scared to investigate the goings on for fear of them being taken to the cleaners in the papers over stuff they may or may not have done. That's more concerning.
The influence of Murdoch on power and politics is the 21st Century equivalent of William Randolph Hearst - and just as worrying. And if anyone questions the inter-connection of politics, press and justice, just look at Italy where Berlusconi has been able to avoid trial for corruption for years.
Within three months, Rebekah Brooks will announce she is pregnant and will go on maternity leave from NI, then get some massive pay off as she wishes to spend time with her new family.
It is always sad when people lose their jobs. As people gloat over the demise of the paper it is probably fair to say that the people who lose their jobs won't have been the ones to blame for the hacking and shady practices. They will be comfortable in other jobs or still working within the organisation.
It's like the bankers who caused the credit crunch - bet none of them are struggling to pay the bills. We have a whole system that allows the powerful to sh*t on the less so. Rather than be outraged, the less so turn on each other - it is soo crazy but you see examples everywhere.
Thank goodness the ruinously expensive wars Blair took us into didnt cost the country countless billions, not to mention the far more criminal senseless loss of life.
It is always sad when people lose their jobs. As people gloat over the demise of the paper it is probably fair to say that the people who lose their jobs won't have been the ones to blame for the hacking and shady practices. They will be comfortable in other jobs or still working within the organisation.
It's like the bankers who caused the credit crunch - bet none of them are struggling to pay the bills. We have a whole system that allows the powerful to sh*t on the less so. Rather than be outraged, the less so turn on each other - it is soo crazy but you see examples everywhere.
I can't excited about people who've lost their jobs when they worked for a right-wing shit rag which never lost an opportunity to step into the gutter. These people worked for Murdoch.
That's harsh I think BFR. Will be lots of ordinary joes with no editorial involvement just scratching a living like the rest of us.
The newspaper was still a right-wing shitrag, the current employees might not be guilty of any the specific crimes that their predecessors are accused of, but our media is better off without it.
By the way..Fox News, Murdoch's US news channel won a Supreme Court decision a few years back where they argued under the First Amendment that they had the right to lie. And people still think it's a good idea to let him near any British media outlets...
I won't say that I feel any great loss at the type of journal the NOTW has become but I do think it's a pity that the name will disappear and regardless of it's editorial policy which in detest I still feel sorry for ordinary workers losing their jobs. By ordinary I mean the tea ladies and cleaners etc who are blameless in all ofbthis.
That is an incredible link/story BFR, it is so brazenly arrogant it is just unbelievable.
I would consider myself a progressive and winced when Blair and Brown got into bed with Murdoch. In fact I would have voted liberal in the last election based on the LDs not having or courting influence with NI purely on the basis that Murdochs influence was having such a detrimental affect on British politics, culture and life.
I have never been a Tory but it is now obvious that they are so under the thumb of NI that they can not govern or act in the way they see fit (or were even elected to do). Whilst Margaret Thatcher opened the door and benefited hugely from the arrangement, future goverments of the right, left and centre have had to ensure that they had its support.
I hope that this does not become a "Tory v the rest" argument it should be "the rest v Murdoch" Cameroon needs to have the balls to stand on the side of the right (not the right wing) and then I might just have some respect for him (which incidentally I have just had, for the first time, for Milliband). Without sounding to dramatic, in times of war we have political parties standing together for the good of the country, I think ordinary people would be really pleased to see political parties standing together again, against a common foe.
Do I strike you as a reader of tabloids? However this is all over t'internet, it may as well be posted here as well. I'm not sure if it's true and I'd have thought that the DM would gave given this a bit more prominence given that it involves American victims and lifts the story into a different league. To date the scandal and the victims have been based this side of the Atlantic, I'm sure I don't need to tell you how touchy the Amercans are concerning that day. If this is true then given his business interests in America he is toast and much as you may dislike it, the wounds are totally self-inflicted.
If you read the comments under that Daily mirror page, the best one has to be: "45p? that's a fucking disgrace", lol.
Didn't buy a copy yesterday but did flick through a copy in the local cafe. Just seem to be full of them licking their wounds and patting themselves on the back. Had to scrub my hands til they bled after handling it.
If the 9/11 story/rumours are true then that is surely another nail in Murdochs empire, the US public wont stand for that I guess. However more importantly,currently, is why is he protecting Rebecah Brookes? If she was the editor at the time and says she knew nothing about the scandal then just by this admission alone she should be sacked for not carrying out her job properly. I cant believe an editor allowed such stories to be published without asking the journo where the story and facts had come from, and once again if she didn't ask then again she has not done her job properly!! Which ever way you look at she has screwed up!!! I think Murdock may well be protecing Brookes so as not to allow her to be in a position where she can or would implicate James Murdoch in all of this, he (James) is also denying any knowledge and is also saying he didnt lie to the parliamentary committee, when we know he did!!......this has still got a long way to run, and more unsavoury stories I think are still to emerge. I just hope that our politicians, from all parties, can stand up and say enough is enough and block once and for all Murdochs bid to take over BskyB in its entirety.
He isnt really protecting her. He is protecting his son. If she knew, she would have told her boss. Then the trouble would really start for Mr M senior
The problem is that if we were to all rise up and crush the evil empire of lord Murdoch, that would also kill the premiership gravy train as we know it and where would that leave our national sport?
He isnt really protecting her. He is protecting his son. If she knew, she would have told her boss. Then the trouble would really start for Mr M senior
Yep FM, as I siad in my post, I fully agree with this.....his son is in it up to his neck.....and that would screw Rupert completely.
The problem is that if we were to all rise up and crush the evil empire of lord Murdoch, that would also kill the premiership gravy train as we know it and where would that leave our national sport?
Since we're so far away from that gravy train and we can no longer afford the tickets, I don't see this as necessarily a bad thing. Leveling the playing field a bit would do no harm and make our national sport a lot more interesting. Imagine a team other than the "big four" winning the premiership...
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It's like the bankers who caused the credit crunch - bet none of them are struggling to pay the bills. We have a whole system that allows the powerful to sh*t on the less so. Rather than be outraged, the less so turn on each other - it is soo crazy but you see examples everywhere.
I can't excited about people who've lost their jobs when they worked for a right-wing shit rag which never lost an opportunity to step into the gutter. These people worked for Murdoch.
The newspaper was still a right-wing shitrag, the current employees might not be guilty of any the specific crimes that their predecessors are accused of, but our media is better off without it.
By the way..Fox News, Murdoch's US news channel won a Supreme Court decision a few years back where they argued under the First Amendment that they had the right to lie. And people still think it's a good idea to let him near any British media outlets...
http://www.librarygrape.com/2009/06/court-fox-news-has-first-amendment.htmlMaybe... or maybe not.
That is an incredible link/story BFR, it is so brazenly arrogant it is just unbelievable.
I would consider myself a progressive and winced when Blair and Brown got into bed with Murdoch. In fact I would have voted liberal in the last election based on the LDs not having or courting influence with NI purely on the basis that Murdochs influence was having such a detrimental affect on British politics, culture and life.
I have never been a Tory but it is now obvious that they are so under the thumb of NI that they can not govern or act in the way they see fit (or were even elected to do). Whilst Margaret Thatcher opened the door and benefited hugely from the arrangement, future goverments of the right, left and centre have had to ensure that they had its support.
I hope that this does not become a "Tory v the rest" argument it should be "the rest v Murdoch" Cameroon needs to have the balls to stand on the side of the right (not the right wing) and then I might just have some respect for him (which incidentally I have just had, for the first time, for Milliband). Without sounding to dramatic, in times of war we have political parties standing together for the good of the country, I think ordinary people would be really pleased to see political parties standing together again, against a common foe.
http://twitpic.com/5o9wj1
If you can't access the photo for some reason it alleges that the phones of some of the victims of September 11 were hacked into.
Do I strike you as a reader of tabloids? However this is all over t'internet, it may as well be posted here as well. I'm not sure if it's true and I'd have thought that the DM would gave given this a bit more prominence given that it involves American victims and lifts the story into a different league. To date the scandal and the victims have been based this side of the Atlantic, I'm sure I don't need to tell you how touchy the Amercans are concerning that day. If this is true then given his business interests in America he is toast and much as you may dislike it, the wounds are totally self-inflicted.
and some (rather old) evidence about what Rebekah Wade was fussed about on Sept 11 2001.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1406429/Pottergate-we-publish-the-secret-tapes.html
Some seriously warped priorities on show there...
Says it all that on page space, Loose Women is deemed as important as Murdoch/NI.
It would have been the first I'd ever bought.
Didn't buy a copy yesterday but did flick through a copy in the local cafe. Just seem to be full of them licking their wounds and patting themselves on the back. Had to scrub my hands til they bled after handling it.
"He who has the media has the people".
However more importantly,currently, is why is he protecting Rebecah Brookes? If she was the editor at the time and says she knew nothing about the scandal then just by this admission alone she should be sacked for not carrying out her job properly. I cant believe an editor allowed such stories to be published without asking the journo where the story and facts had come from, and once again if she didn't ask then again she has not done her job properly!! Which ever way you look at she has screwed up!!!
I think Murdock may well be protecing Brookes so as not to allow her to be in a position where she can or would implicate James Murdoch in all of this, he (James) is also denying any knowledge and is also saying he didnt lie to the parliamentary committee, when we know he did!!......this has still got a long way to run, and more unsavoury stories I think are still to emerge.
I just hope that our politicians, from all parties, can stand up and say enough is enough and block once and for all Murdochs bid to take over BskyB in its entirety.
If she knew, she would have told her boss.
Then the trouble would really start for Mr M senior
Make football competitive to all clubs, once again.