Thing is we have better players than Brighton imo BUT they played as a team. We have a tactically inept manager and they have a tactically astute one. They showed more inventiveness from free kicks and corners in one game than I have seen from us in the last two years. What exactly do we do on the training ground? And parky's press quotes are getting more bizarre each game. Even before saturday he was insisting we had played well against mkd at home. Are you kidding mate? That performance was worse that saturdays debacle. He can't even see the wood from the trees now and it's getting more pardewesque by the game. Go now please.
For the first half hour I thought we played quite well, if a bit one-dimensional, firing in lots of crosses - some over-hit but others without anyone getting a touch. The defence pushed up well and didn't drop back too quickly but that all changed when the first goal went in, and we retreated to the 18 yard line. Parky had the wingers switch sides for 10-15 minutes, but I don't think either got a shot off which is the point of the exercise, neither did a full back overlap to distract the defence to enable them to have a dig. What do they learn in training?
Parky was surprised by their diamond formation (I thought they had five in midfield) but didn't choose to change tactics to counter. He replaced a defender with a defender and an attacker with an attacker, but most damning at three nil down we still brought everyone back for a corner. Get this clown out now!
Perhaps most worrying is that the obvious contender as PP's replacement, Christian Dailly, is responsible for the defence lying deep, which allows our midfield to be overrun so often.
My worry is that this could be the start of a run of 5 (very bad) straight defeats. With the team already lacking confidence, I don't want to think about were this could lead.
Nothing more to add and won't bother reeling off all the problems i see with the team. They are so glaringly obvious and have been since the first game of the season. The biggest is the lack of football ability in midfield but it's not worth boring everybody with that again.I left after the third goal - first time i think i've ever left before the end of the game but when your driving and all your mates want to go and then your 10 year old son also pipes up with 'Come on Dad, lets go, we're rubbish' it sort of feels right to go - also, sometimes a protest walk out is what's needed and i think we've reached that point. I'm now convinced Parky is clueless.
We were outclassed by a side on top of their game. I think that they would have soundly beaten any non-Prem team in England on Saturday.
What I liked the most about Brighton was their philosophy of keeping the ball on the floor unless last resort it had to go long. Even their goalkeeper was playing as a sweeper keeper knocking it about between the centre backs. They played 'inbewteen' us in the middle and we were chasing shadows for 90mins.
The shambles is that we didnt/couldnt stop them. Their set pieces were clever and well worked but who did the homework? They must have watched them but it looked like we were taken by suprise every single time.
Tactically we aren't good enough and I admit that Parky needs to sort it out.
Going to Charlton is becoming a bit of a chore theses days and I live in SE7 (2mins from the ground). I feel like I'm going to games out of habit rather than wanting to be there and this is only the second time in 25 years I have felt this way - the other time being during the run-in in our relegation from Championship.
Things need to change big time - Murray has some important decisions to make.
Cluless up front and bad defending - still think our problem is more on the offensive side which if sorted would take pressure off the defence. Parky focussing on the admittedly poor defence but praising our sterile attacking play is worrying me as is playing Abbott and Benson together . I do believe Benson is a good finisher, his first against Plymouth reasured me of that, but you need to have something to worry defenders like pace and strength. I hope when Sodje is fit that he is drafted in becuase we are crying out for a Sodje Anyinsah combo up front. Failing that - one of them with Benson is a must in our current prediciment..
Got some updates from my contacts - very confidential but positively there is some interest in buying the club. Promised I wouldn't say any more but surname of individual begins with S, which will prove me right when it comes out if it does develop further. Not a rich arab but would be in a position to take club forwards. I understand he is very keen but quite a lot still to sort out still.
Youga would definitely have been sold if fit and one or two clubs likely to take him on when he is- Portsmouth are admirers. He probably will have to take a wage cut though. Apparently his injury could only be detected throuch surgery as it was hidden and it wasn't a case of French doctors being useless but Youga would have been better off taking the advice of the club with the benefit of hindsight. When he first went out there, he was supposed to keep in daily contact and didn't and the club didn't know if he was having a holiday which made Parky angry - he has been sorting out things for his family in France -buying hairdressing business for sister etc... However, this was all sorted and he then kept in daily contact since.
Parky would have left us in the Summer if a decent offer came in - he had is eye on a job or 2.
[cite]Posted By: MuttleyCAFC[/cite]Cluless up front and bad defending - still think our problem is more on the offensive side which if sorted would take pressure off the defence. Parky focussing on the admittedly poor defence but praising our sterile attacking play is worrying me as is playing Abbott and Benson together . I do believe Benson is a good finisher, his first against Plymouth reasured me of that, but you need to have something to worry defenders like pace and strength. I hope when Sodje is fit that he is drafted in becuase we are crying out for a Sodje Anyinsah combo up front. Failing that - one of them with Benson is a must in our current prediciment..
Got some updates from my contacts - very confidential but positively there is some interest in buying the club. Promised I wouldn't say any more but surname of individual begins with S, which will prove me right when it comes out if it does develop further. Not a rich arab but would be in a position to take club forwards. I understand he is very keen but quite a lot still to sort out still.
Youga would definitely have been sold if fit and one or two clubs likely to take him on when he is- Portsmouth are admirers. He probably will have to take a wage cut though. Apparently his injury could only be detected throuch surgery as it was hidden and it wasn't a case of French doctors being useless but Youga would have been better off taking the advice of the club with the benefit of hindsight. When he first went out there, he was supposed to keep in daily contact and didn't and the club didn't know if he was having a holiday which made Parky angry - he has been sorting out things for his family in France -buying hairdressing business for sister etc... However, this was all sorted and he then kept in daily contact since.
Parky would have left us in the Summer if a decent offer came in - he had is eye on a job or 2.
I think that would have been a 'leaving by mutual consent' type situation but clearly he didn't land any of the jobs he went for and we decided to spend the money on Benson rather than sacking him - i'm guessing he's still only on assistant's money so what can his pay off be now? can't be more than £100k surely? £100 k we ain't got admittedly but it's going to be a slow death if he stays.
For all Brighton's good football, and I do like the way BHA play, the thing that annoyed me the most on Saturday was how little we pressed the ball, the other stuff I can live with, but not an inability to put players at this level under pressure.
[quote][cite]Posted By: Rothko[/cite]For all Brighton's good football, and I do like the way BHA play, the thing that annoyed me the most on Saturday was how little we pressed the ball, the other stuff I can live with, but not an inability to put players at this level under pressure.[/quote]
I didn't go on Saturday but that comment could have been in respect of any of our games this season.
Average teams look like world beaters when they play us beacuse we simply give them so much time and space.
[cite]Posted By: Bexley Dan[/cite]Nothing more to add and won't bother reeling off all the problems i see with the team. They are so glaringly obvious and have been since the first game of the season. The biggest is the lack of football ability in midfield but it's not worth boring everybody with that again.I left after the third goal - first time i think i've ever left before the end of the game but when your driving and all your mates want to go and then your 10 year old son also pipes up with 'Come on Dad, lets go, we're rubbish' it sort of feels right to go - also, sometimes a protest walk out is what's needed and i think we've reached that point. I'm now convinced Parky is clueless.
Same here. My 8 year old son and his mate (at his first footie game) were desperate to go. Also couldn't stand the thought of being on teh train back to London Bridge with all the Brighton fans.
Thing is we weren't all that bad in the first half hour. No comparison to how showcking we were against Brentford.
My 9 year old wanted to go at 2-0 - I held out until 3-0. No cutting edge - you have to create more at home - never looked like scoring really - ok had some shots at end of half but we try to cut teams open with the bluntest of knifes!!!
[cite]Posted By: MuttleyCAFC[/cite]Unless he turns things round quickly, he will be out if we are sold. There is genuine interest, I know who from - just was asked not to say who he is.
If there is serious then Murray isn't going to sack Parky. He'd let the new board decide (who would most likely want their own man). A new board would presumably have money to pay compensation for a manager already in a job as well.
So that's my 8 and 10 year old, MuttleyCAFC's 9 year old, BexleyDan's 10 year old, Jint's 8 year old, and his mate - all wanting to leave before the end because we are so rubbish.
The longer Parky stays the more of our young support he's going to turn off. My boys have watched us lose and draw many times before but when it's exciting as a contest, and they can see we're competing, then they still enjoy themselves. Ritual humiliation at that age isn't appealing though. Just from a random selection of Lifers that's six kids who all got pissed off on Saturday. How many around the ground left embarrassed that their Dad's take them along to Charlton?
I worry cos at that age kids are fickle. I'm confident mine will stick with us, and die-hard Dad's like those on CL probably have kids that will stay with us through thick and thin too... but how many others would rather stay at home with their video games on the 30th. Inaction is killing the future.
Murray will sack Parky and he has been warned and possibly given a number of games by which he needs to have turned it round (don't know number - Murray wouldn't publicise- not his style - but he isn't happy I know that). We are at a point where a good run could see us challenging at the top - this is a close but poor division. Parky has to get things right starting from Carlisle on Saturday. IMO, he needs to find a way that we can carry more threat. Difficult but that is the key.
my 4 year old didn't go but he went to bed in his new charlton top and when he saw me watching the highlights got angry with 'why do the blue team keep scoring'
my 10 year old nephew likes charlton and has his first season ticket but wants to support a decent team as well
it can't be easy for these kids when we are as pony as we have ever been
The good thing about kids is that they can be just as easily won back. They just need to see some excitement and victories. My son want's to support Tottenham but still refers to Charlton as his team for now. The promise of the pink goalkeeping kit when it is finally released is helping to keep him on board.
[cite]Posted By: LeaburnForEngland[/cite]So that's my 8 and 10 year old, MuttleyCAFC's 9 year old, BexleyDan's 10 year old, Jint's 8 year old, and his mate - all wanting to leave before the end because we are so rubbish.
The longer Parky stays the more of our young support he's going to turn off. My boys have watched us lose and draw many times before but when it's exciting as a contest, and they can see we're competing, then they still enjoy themselves. Ritual humiliation at that age isn't appealing though. Just from a random selection of Lifers that's six kids who all got pissed off on Saturday. How many around the ground left embarrassed that their Dad's take them along to Charlton?
I worry cos at that age kids are fickle. I'm confident mine will stick with us, and die-hard Dad's like those on CL probably have kids that will stay with us through thick and thin too... but how many others would rather stay at home with their video games on the 30th. Inaction is killing the future.
My 7 year old gave up a couple of weeks back. I reckon my 10 year old might just give them one more chance (if i promise him a programme, some sweets, several drinks and of course, the early gettaway clause).
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Parky was surprised by their diamond formation (I thought they had five in midfield) but didn't choose to change tactics to counter. He replaced a defender with a defender and an attacker with an attacker, but most damning at three nil down we still brought everyone back for a corner. Get this clown out now!
Perhaps most worrying is that the obvious contender as PP's replacement, Christian Dailly, is responsible for the defence lying deep, which allows our midfield to be overrun so often.
Agree with that ... exactly the comment I made to my brother yesterday.
Better players I disagree. Just because we don't know much about them doesn't make ours better.
I feel so strongly about this that i would say (without having seen a lot of them) that we have the worst central midfield in the division - bar none.
What I liked the most about Brighton was their philosophy of keeping the ball on the floor unless last resort it had to go long. Even their goalkeeper was playing as a sweeper keeper knocking it about between the centre backs. They played 'inbewteen' us in the middle and we were chasing shadows for 90mins.
The shambles is that we didnt/couldnt stop them. Their set pieces were clever and well worked but who did the homework? They must have watched them but it looked like we were taken by suprise every single time.
Tactically we aren't good enough and I admit that Parky needs to sort it out.
Going to Charlton is becoming a bit of a chore theses days and I live in SE7 (2mins from the ground). I feel like I'm going to games out of habit rather than wanting to be there and this is only the second time in 25 years I have felt this way - the other time being during the run-in in our relegation from Championship.
Things need to change big time - Murray has some important decisions to make.
Got some updates from my contacts - very confidential but positively there is some interest in buying the club. Promised I wouldn't say any more but surname of individual begins with S, which will prove me right when it comes out if it does develop further. Not a rich arab but would be in a position to take club forwards. I understand he is very keen but quite a lot still to sort out still.
Youga would definitely have been sold if fit and one or two clubs likely to take him on when he is- Portsmouth are admirers. He probably will have to take a wage cut though. Apparently his injury could only be detected throuch surgery as it was hidden and it wasn't a case of French doctors being useless but Youga would have been better off taking the advice of the club with the benefit of hindsight. When he first went out there, he was supposed to keep in daily contact and didn't and the club didn't know if he was having a holiday which made Parky angry - he has been sorting out things for his family in France -buying hairdressing business for sister etc... However, this was all sorted and he then kept in daily contact since.
Parky would have left us in the Summer if a decent offer came in - he had is eye on a job or 2.
lol in his dreams
I think that would have been a 'leaving by mutual consent' type situation but clearly he didn't land any of the jobs he went for and we decided to spend the money on Benson rather than sacking him - i'm guessing he's still only on assistant's money so what can his pay off be now? can't be more than £100k surely? £100 k we ain't got admittedly but it's going to be a slow death if he stays.
I didn't go on Saturday but that comment could have been in respect of any of our games this season.
Average teams look like world beaters when they play us beacuse we simply give them so much time and space.
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Same here. My 8 year old son and his mate (at his first footie game) were desperate to go. Also couldn't stand the thought of being on teh train back to London Bridge with all the Brighton fans.
Thing is we weren't all that bad in the first half hour. No comparison to how showcking we were against Brentford.
The longer Parky stays the more of our young support he's going to turn off. My boys have watched us lose and draw many times before but when it's exciting as a contest, and they can see we're competing, then they still enjoy themselves. Ritual humiliation at that age isn't appealing though. Just from a random selection of Lifers that's six kids who all got pissed off on Saturday. How many around the ground left embarrassed that their Dad's take them along to Charlton?
I worry cos at that age kids are fickle. I'm confident mine will stick with us, and die-hard Dad's like those on CL probably have kids that will stay with us through thick and thin too... but how many others would rather stay at home with their video games on the 30th. Inaction is killing the future.
my 10 year old nephew likes charlton and has his first season ticket but wants to support a decent team as well
it can't be easy for these kids when we are as pony as we have ever been
Now please, doherty is terrible
My 7 year old gave up a couple of weeks back. I reckon my 10 year old might just give them one more chance (if i promise him a programme, some sweets, several drinks and of course, the early gettaway clause).