McLeod is hungry, working his nuts off, closing down and making all the runs both for team mates and his own goal chances. Can't fault his attitude in any way.
He runs well at defenders with the ball, but not such good control receiving the ball in tight under pressure situations with a defender up his arse and one in front. And he's still panicky in front of goal.
McLeod has 3 goals this season, compared to Dicksons 4 .... quite possibly from a similar amount of minutes on the pitch.
[cite]Posted By: Oggy Red[/cite]Doesn't sound like McLeod at all.
McLeod is hungry, working his nuts off, closing down and making all the runs both for team mates and his own goal chances. Can't fault his attitude in any way.
[cite]Posted By: Oggy Red[/cite]Doesn't sound like McLeod at all.
McLeod is hungry, working his nuts off, closing down and making all the runs both for team mates and his own goal chances. Can't fault his attitude in any way.
[cite]Posted By: Oggy Red[/cite]Doesn't sound like McLeod at all.
McLeod is hungry, working his nuts off, closing down and making all the runs both for team mates and his own goal chances. Can't fault his attitude in any way.
Mcleod had attitude problems last year yes but now He literally works his nuts off he can't help that he's gash he puts so much effort in which clearly shows his attitude has changed!
[cite]Posted By: Oggy Red[/cite]Doesn't sound like McLeod at all.
McLeod is hungry, working his nuts off, closing down and making all the runs both for team mates and his own goal chances. Can't fault his attitude in any way.
How little you know.
What sort of smug-arsed comment is that, mate?
I look forward to hearing your opinion McLovin, but it would help if it was backed up with a bit of reason.
[cite]Posted By: Oggy Red[/cite]Doesn't sound like McLeod at all.
McLeod is hungry, working his nuts off, closing down and making all the runs both for team mates and his own goal chances. Can't fault his attitude in any way.
[cite]Posted By: Oggy Red[/cite]Doesn't sound like McLeod at all.
McLeod is hungry, working his nuts off, closing down and making all the runs both for team mates and his own goal chances. Can't fault his attitude in any way.
How little you know.
I'm also intrigued by that comment.
What do you know that we don't?
Shouldn't you metamorphose (is there such a word?) into Barn Door McLeod having been SuperKev and Luke?
[cite]Posted By: Stu from Hu5[/cite]Personally I'd have let him rot in the reserves rather than loan him out. Are you happy for Rovers to finish 2nd aslong as we finish 3rd?
Not going to happen now agent D has had the desired impact.
Started well with 2 goals in first game but has missed enough sitters to have been in double figures by now. In my opinion he is too lazy, first touch is poor and rarely wins a header.
We are on a nightmare run at the moment with 5 defeats in a row and the last thing you need is someone up front not giving 100% who can't hold the ball up.
For me he just isn't the striker we need to play alongside Joe Kuffour. I don't think he is worth any more than £50k and I can see why Charlton are keen to offload.
As you've probably guessed I won't be bothered if we send him back when the loan is up.
I don't really rate Dickson but is probably better in a team more suited to him. We already have Kuffour who brings more to the team than Dickson.
As stated above Dickson is lazy and can't win headers but what he is good at is pouncing on errors like his goal against Southampton. His shots at time are really weak and are normally straight at the keeper.
TBH I would send him back now and look for another striker on loan with the qualities of heading the ball and holding the ball up eg more of a target man.
And yes he didn't start on Saturday which now means that he has played a total of 528 minutes for Rovers during which time he has scored four and created one goal.
Meanwhile, in the last 528 minutes our WHOLE Team has managed to amass the grand total of 3 (that's THREE for the hard of hearing) goals.
Some of you need to look a bit closer to home for cheap shots - I assure you there's plenty of them right in front of your very nose. For a start I don't believe Dicko can claim an assist - for the opposition that is (a la McLeod on Saturday).
PS Thank God some of you lot weren't around when Killer was playing for us 'cos you would have had him packed off back to Luton quicker than you can say "no touch, no workrate only goals to his game".
i put dickson in the bracket of a number of our players who are much better when they are not in our first team
'we need them back to improve us'
'once he gets a goal he'll kick on'
'we've missed (insert players name) our form has dropped'
'he needs a run in the team'
mcleod ... semedo... elliot .... racon....
basically we have a lot of very ordinary players who we all crave to be 'the difference' to us when they play but in reality they make a slight difference at best and they are a reason that we are at this level and i fear they are the reason we wont be going up ;-(
[cite]Posted By: Salad[/cite]funny that, if he is so wonderful how come he has been dropped again
Nobody said he's so wonderful - just better than we have already as his record in this Division has proven over and over again. Just some prefer to use him as a soft target.
[cite]Posted By: mart77[/cite]This thread could go on longer than the Takeover one!
Looking at some of the recent contributions it's managed to become just about as puerile and appears to have turned into a pathetic point-scoring exercise.
Ooh look how clever I am - he didn't score in the six minutes he was on the pitch ha ha. Oooh he rushed an average of 736 yards a game while on loan at Crewe.
Not one person on here has managed to consider any conflicting points and changed their own view, which is the point of debate - something that is all too sadly lacking on here. Very poor thread and a poor reflection on us. For that reason, I'm oot.
[cite]Posted By: mart77[/cite]This thread could go on longer than the Takeover one!
Looking at some of the recent contributions it's managed to become just about as puerile and appears to have turned into a pathetic point-scoring exercise.
Ooh look how clever I am - he didn't score in the six minutes he was on the pitch ha ha. Oooh he rushed an average of 736 yards a game while on loan at Crewe.
Not one person on here has managed to consider any conflicting points and changed their own view, which is the point of debate - something that is all too sadly lacking on here. Very poor thread and a poor reflection on us. For that reason, I'm oot.
As stated previously some of us have accepted that Parky doesn't want Dicko back and that the end would justify the means i.e. if we went up it wouldn't matter how many goals he scored at Rovers but, if that didn't happen and he carried on scoring then Parky would have some serious questions to answer.
Unfortunately, as you say, others have chosen to jump on the fact that Dicko was sub and didn't score during the 17 minutes he was on the pitch rather than mention that the "striker" playing for us not only didn't score in the whole of the game for us but also made one for the opposition.
[cite]Posted By: oohaahmortimer[/cite]i put dickson in the bracket of a number of our players who are much better when they are not in our first team
'we need them back to improve us'
'once he gets a goal he'll kick on'
'we've missed (insert players name) our form has dropped'
'he needs a run in the team'
mcleod ... semedo... elliot .... racon....
basically we have a lot of very ordinary players who we all crave to be 'the difference' to us when they play but in reality they make a slight difference at best and they are a reason that we are at this level and i fear they are the reason we wont be going up ;-(
Spot on we rave about these players and yet on form they are average championship players and when not they are Divison 1 players where they deserve to be.
[cite]Posted By: Addick Addict[/cite]Unfortunately, as you say, others have chosen to jump on the fact that Dicko was sub and didn't score during the 17 minutes he was on the pitch rather than mention that the "striker" playing for us not only didn't score in the whole of the game for us but also made one for the opposition.
From what little I have seen of Dickson I thought he had a few tricks on the ball but otherwise was useless, but I admit I was hoping that he would come good at Bristol Rovers and either we could sell him for a tidy sum or he could come back here with more dimensions to his game and with a supportive attitude.
When he went to Bristol Rovers, they were hot on our heels in third place, despite the fact he has scored four goals for them they have embarked on a major losing run, indeed despite the fact he is scoring goals he has been dropped. That says something.
To me it adds evidence to the view that he is a player that has some trickery and he can score goals but he does virtually nothing to contribute to a team's performance, so he effectively has to be carried by a 10 man team - there is a level where the positive becomes greater than this negative; that level is probably somewhere above Isthmian League Division One South and below League One.
[cite]Posted By: Addick Addict[/cite]So is it Dicko's fault that Rovers are conceding more than they are scoring?
Well he was dropped even after his goalscoring there so there's something in it.
If he's not closing down defenders enough, letting them easily play passes out to start up moves, taking silly risks and giving the ball away instead of holding it up, or miscontrolling the ball, then all those things give the opponents the ball and the other 9 outfield players have to work even harder because they know Dickson doesn't bother.
As for the point about Killer, no I wasn't around (but I'm sure plenty on here were), but wasn't football a bit different then? Players are fitter now and are expected to all work hard for the team. How many teams have a player who is just a goalscorer in League One and above?
I remember similar debates (albeit before the days of internet!) about Paul Gorman when we got him from non-league football. He seemed a threat every time he played but clearly had technical deficiences in his hold up play that seemed ultimately to count against him in the eyes of the management. He did however score a goal at Bristol City with a low shot with the outside of his foot which suggested to me that he was a natural goalscorer. Gorman's record....
1991/92 Apps 11 Goals 4
1992/93 Apps 10 Goals 2
1993/94 Apps 15 Goals 1
Total 36 apps of which 18 were as sub. 7 goals. Not the greatest but maybe if he'd played more games? We'll never know.
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McLeod is hungry, working his nuts off, closing down and making all the runs both for team mates and his own goal chances. Can't fault his attitude in any way.
He runs well at defenders with the ball, but not such good control receiving the ball in tight under pressure situations with a defender up his arse and one in front. And he's still panicky in front of goal.
McLeod has 3 goals this season, compared to Dicksons 4 .... quite possibly from a similar amount of minutes on the pitch.
Dickson sounds like McLeod? Don't think so.
What sort of smug-arsed comment is that, mate?
I look forward to hearing your opinion McLovin, but it would help if it was backed up with a bit of reason.
I'm also intrigued by that comment.
What do you know that we don't?
Shouldn't you metamorphose (is there such a word?) into Barn Door McLeod having been SuperKev and Luke?
How long before the toys come out of the pram as he isn't starting?.
Can see this ending in tears before the loan period is up........
And yes he didn't start on Saturday which now means that he has played a total of 528 minutes for Rovers during which time he has scored four and created one goal.
Meanwhile, in the last 528 minutes our WHOLE Team has managed to amass the grand total of 3 (that's THREE for the hard of hearing) goals.
Some of you need to look a bit closer to home for cheap shots - I assure you there's plenty of them right in front of your very nose. For a start I don't believe Dicko can claim an assist - for the opposition that is (a la McLeod on Saturday).
PS Thank God some of you lot weren't around when Killer was playing for us 'cos you would have had him packed off back to Luton quicker than you can say "no touch, no workrate only goals to his game".
Scoring more goals than the other side wins matches.
So is it Dicko's fault that Rovers are conceding more than they are scoring?
And just to prove that they do win matches I've never heard of a Team winning a League game 0-0.
'we need them back to improve us'
'once he gets a goal he'll kick on'
'we've missed (insert players name) our form has dropped'
'he needs a run in the team'
mcleod ... semedo... elliot .... racon....
basically we have a lot of very ordinary players who we all crave to be 'the difference' to us when they play but in reality they make a slight difference at best and they are a reason that we are at this level and i fear they are the reason we wont be going up ;-(
Nobody said he's so wonderful - just better than we have already as his record in this Division has proven over and over again. Just some prefer to use him as a soft target.
Ooh look how clever I am - he didn't score in the six minutes he was on the pitch ha ha. Oooh he rushed an average of 736 yards a game while on loan at Crewe.
Not one person on here has managed to consider any conflicting points and changed their own view, which is the point of debate - something that is all too sadly lacking on here. Very poor thread and a poor reflection on us. For that reason, I'm oot.
As stated previously some of us have accepted that Parky doesn't want Dicko back and that the end would justify the means i.e. if we went up it wouldn't matter how many goals he scored at Rovers but, if that didn't happen and he carried on scoring then Parky would have some serious questions to answer.
Unfortunately, as you say, others have chosen to jump on the fact that Dicko was sub and didn't score during the 17 minutes he was on the pitch rather than mention that the "striker" playing for us not only didn't score in the whole of the game for us but also made one for the opposition.
Spot on we rave about these players and yet on form they are average championship players and when not they are Divison 1 players where they deserve to be.
From what little I have seen of Dickson I thought he had a few tricks on the ball but otherwise was useless, but I admit I was hoping that he would come good at Bristol Rovers and either we could sell him for a tidy sum or he could come back here with more dimensions to his game and with a supportive attitude.
When he went to Bristol Rovers, they were hot on our heels in third place, despite the fact he has scored four goals for them they have embarked on a major losing run, indeed despite the fact he is scoring goals he has been dropped. That says something.
To me it adds evidence to the view that he is a player that has some trickery and he can score goals but he does virtually nothing to contribute to a team's performance, so he effectively has to be carried by a 10 man team - there is a level where the positive becomes greater than this negative; that level is probably somewhere above Isthmian League Division One South and below League One.
Well he was dropped even after his goalscoring there so there's something in it.
If he's not closing down defenders enough, letting them easily play passes out to start up moves, taking silly risks and giving the ball away instead of holding it up, or miscontrolling the ball, then all those things give the opponents the ball and the other 9 outfield players have to work even harder because they know Dickson doesn't bother.
As for the point about Killer, no I wasn't around (but I'm sure plenty on here were), but wasn't football a bit different then? Players are fitter now and are expected to all work hard for the team. How many teams have a player who is just a goalscorer in League One and above?
What Henry and oohaah said really.
1991/92
Apps 11 Goals 4
1992/93
Apps 10 Goals 2
1993/94
Apps 15 Goals 1
Total 36 apps of which 18 were as sub. 7 goals. Not the greatest but maybe if he'd played more games? We'll never know.