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Parky - sticking my neck out

After yesterday, I completely stand by what I've said in the past few weeks: he is a good manager because he can bring the best out in the players, and given the close season to shape the squad and build fitness, I do believe he can do a job for us. He is also a sensible, intelligent guy - loved the programme notes. If it were my decision, I would stick by him. He knows the players, he know the set-up, and he knows and accepts the financial situation.

He cares and has something to prove to all of us and to himself.

Roll on Div Three...
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  • I'm with you on this, Weegie.
  • [cite]Posted By: Weegie Addick[/cite]After yesterday, I completely stand by what I've said in the past few weeks: he is a good manager because he can bring the best out in the players, and given the close season to shape the squad and build fitness, I do believe he can do a job for us. He is also a sensible, intelligent guy - loved the programme notes. If it were my decision, I would stick by him. He knows the players, he know the set-up, and he knows and accepts the financial situation.

    He cares and has something to prove to all of us and to himself.

    Roll on Div Three...

    However, he has mannaged just 4 wins of which two were against clubs joining us in div 3. If we judge him on results, which arguably are a little more important on subjective oppinions about his personailty, he surely should move on?
  • unless a takeover can bring on someone of undeniable quality (eg. Curbs!) then I also agree.
  • bizarely....me too

    give him a chance to dig us out.....

    can't believe I am saying it...but...er.... yeah....

    unless the investment brings in something better
  • nooo, not curbs unless there's a player out there in the kinsella, parker mould to play the 12th man and add that something extra to the team...no, the parkinsella team, if they can get in a third man to help them sort out the defence and taking of free kicks might just be what we are looking for...
  • I'm with you as well Weegie. Several things have occurred to me, not least that the players are behind him and their view was that performances have improved and the results will come. There was no protest at the game, absolutely nothing outside, and one unsupported chant during the game. My photos show that fans overwhelmingly stayed for the lap of honour. I had thought that we needed someone new to stop the fans deserting in droves, yet we have 100% renewal at our Kent coach stop. I think the opposition has been very vocal but in reality, the numbers are smaller than I had imagined. Parky said there was a lot wrong that needed changing and it would take time. I have reservations, but I'm sticking with him. If there's new investment and an obviously better choice available, that's a bonus.
  • [cite]Posted By: stilladdicted[/cite]I'm sticking with him. If there's new investment and an obviously better choice available, that's a bonus.

    Sums up my view too, SA.
  • [cite]Posted By: stilladdicted[/cite]I'm with you as well Weegie. Several things have occurred to me, not least that the players are behind him and their view was that performances have improved and the results will come. There was no protest at the game, absolutely nothing outside, and one unsupported chant during the game. My photos show that fans overwhelmingly stayed for the lap of honour. I had thought that we needed someone new to stop the fans deserting in droves, yet we have 100% renewal at our Kent coach stop. I think the opposition has been very vocal but in reality, the numbers are smaller than I had imagined. Parky said there was a lot wrong that needed changing and it would take time. I have reservations, but I'm sticking with him. If there's new investment and an obviously better choice available, that's a bonus.
    I think that the unsupported chant was actually a response to the fact that he didn't wave back after the "parky give us a wave" chant.
  • I know what you mean.

    I don't think he's a motivational type of manager, he showed he couldn't take over from Pardew and get results from a struggling team with no confidence, sort of the defence and get us scoring goals straight away.

    I do have that feeling he can build a team if he's given time. At the time we needed a new manager to come in and shake everything up, but it's obviously far too late for that now. He knows the sort of players we need in League One better than someone like Di Canio would.

    I don't think we can get someone significantly better, only a takeover will give us a chance of that. Even then, a new manager will need time to assess the squad. Parkinson already has a clear idea of who he wants to bring in, who to keep and who to sell.

    With Jonjo's contract situation, Zheng and Racon's injuries, we couldn't play that team we've been using recently. Players like Youga and Sam had no confidence before, but Youga's starting to get back to where he was a year ago, playing with a bit of confidence. Sam's setting up more chances now as well. We're actually getting more out of Bailey by using him on the left, when he was playing in the middle he couldn't get away with his mistakes as much.
  • With you Weggie on Parky's personality and strengths.

    On the other hand his record is poor despite the recent slight improvement.

    We shall see.
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  • Oh and his programme notes, I usually like what he says. It makes sense, not like the rubbish Pardew ended up talking about. He's being sensible with the young players, as from what I've seen from Mambo, Stavrinou and Clark I wouldn't say they are ready yet either. What he said about Wagstaff was clearly true when he played as well.
  • I would rather have Kinsella than Parky tbh. But whatever happens it has to happen asap and none of that last minute change of manager. Parky is right in saying that the season starts now.

    What we need is to get the kids together and add some experienced players and please none of those ungrateful 'I m here for the cash' 1 - 6 months loans.

    Might need to look outside of the UK as players are often cheaper. Obviously not too many.
  • As someone said to me Pardew is Champagne, Parkinson is a pie and a pint.

    And that was meant and taken as a compliment.
  • [cite]Posted By: SE7 Expat[/cite]I would rather have Kinsella than Parky tbh.

    Why? He's not proven anything. In fact the reserves are even playing better under Damien Matthew than they did under Kinsella.
  • Which would you prefer, a sweet smile and nice programme notes, or points?
  • probably points, seth. But he is a very nice man, by all accounts.
  • [cite]Posted By: seth plum[/cite]Which would you prefer, a sweet smile and nice programme notes, or points?

    Roll on next season Seth and we can have both ;-)
  • As was said above, those against Parky are very vocal but in a minority. All around me yesterday were totally supporting him. I would be more than happy to see him stay next season.
  • I think that there is a large majority of supporters (from what I was listening to yesterday) that don;t think he is any good, but are just resigned to the fact that we are stuck with him, and will support the club regardless.
  • Parky has had his chance.

    4 wins- Palace, then Norwich/Plymouth and Southampton who are all just above us. Not good enough.
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  • Agree Bigredevil.

    What is Parky's record on player aquisitions? Not great, he mannaged to bring in 10 players to very little effect. Yes, we are financially depleted, we will be losing a number of playerson bosmans and are best players under contract are being strongly linked with other clubs. Next season we will be no better off financially, arguably worse off, and I dread to think what quality parky will be able to identify and afford.
  • edited May 2009
    There's no right answer to this flippin' conundrum is there, just opinion.
    If I really thought there was somebody decent out there we could get, I wouldn't lose sleep over ditching Parky.
    But I don't, and despite results I think there is something about us now that convinces me we should give him another shot with a summer to do his thing.

    The fly in the ointment for me is the possibility of losing too many of the better players in the summer as this may put any "progress" back to square one.
  • Playing devil's advocate on this one, that is why a lot of fans are so worried about Parky after he and Pardew "did his thing over the summer" last year.
  • It would not surprise me if the board chose 'a good day to bury bad news' and confirm parky is manager for next season, sometime in the height of the summer holidays when many fans are nowhere near the Valley.
  • [cite]Posted By: c4fcdenmark[/cite]It would not surprise me if the board chose 'a good day to bury bad news' and confirm parky is manager for next season, sometime in the height of the summer holidays when many fans are nowhere near the Valley.

    Doubt it, surely it'll be confirmed either way very soon. Maybe a weeks time, but they can't leave it 3 or 4 weeks, by then we'd all assume Parkinson is the manager anyway.
  • Isn't there a board meeting planned for this week?

    At least that's the impression I got from various programme articles, post match interviews.
  • [cite]Posted By: Simon E[/cite]Playing devil's advocate on this one, that is why a lot of fans are so worried about Parky after he and Pardew "did his thing over the summer" last year.

    I don't buy that Parky had much influence over Pardew's misdemeanors SE. He has already publicly stated that he would not have ditched Iwelumo and there have been a number of other hints.
    Assistant's are just there to back up and reinforce the managers decisions IMO.

    It's like when people over the years have tried to attribute Alex Ferguson's success to Brian Kidd, Steve McClaren, the portugese guy or whover was assistant at the given time.
  • [cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]As someone said to me Pardew is Champagne, Parkinson is a pie and a pint.

    And that was meant and taken as a compliment.

    Never truer word, champange always leaves a bitter after taste, much rather a pint.
  • Pardew's first 18 games this season..... 16 points

    Parkinson's last 18 games this season 20 points.

    The 10 game hiatus in between......3 points

    Parkinson's 28 games in charge 23 points.

    Which ever way you look at it we were relegation material throughout. We drew too many games from a winning position and we lacked belief to turn 0-0 into a victory

    Our only asset in recent weeks has been our midfield, Sam, Shelvey, Zhi Zhi, Racon and Bailey sadly not a great deal behind them or a lot up front. They are our saleable assets and I wouldn't be surprised if they had all moved on by the start of next season. So that leaves a huge hole for starters for any manager whether that be Parky or anyone else to fill.

    Defence well Youga could move to Scunnie if they get promoted perhaps, Ward will probably get another championship offer eg something like Blackpool, Butterfield goes back to Reading and Hudson (aka Carl Tiler both pony IMHO) can try and get some other club to take him on. So a defensive hole.

    Tuna, McLeod, Burton some hope there I guess in attack but hardly mouthwatering

    So we have a major rebuilding to undertake bigger than when we dropped from the Premiership, at least we then had parachute Luke Young and Darren Bent money for Pardew to fritter. A sad decline not for the feint hearted. We need a manager who knows players who can truly operate at this level. Despite what I have written Parkinsella is the ticket. We need stability, the team have gelled in recent weeks despite pending relegation a playing system stability will not be on the pitch so for me it has to be Parkinsella.
  • I know i'm going to be sectioned for saying this but I think we should stick with him, reading his notes yesterday and hearing him on 94.9 on the way home he was talking sense. He got the poisoned chalice, We all knew we were going to be relagated before pardew was sacked. The whole set up was a shambles and he did'nt have any money to spend. the money for varney was used to pay off Pardew and no real players of our owm (7 loanees).
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