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Next England Manager - Thomas Tuchel

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  • Hmmm/  I love Wrighty, but think he's out of line here.  Unlike him to play that card.  Disappointed

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/ckgkg1d49v7o
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 15,578
    Nah he is bang on
  • fenaddick said:
    Nah he is bang on
    Really?

    I don't dislike Bellingham for any reason other than that I think he's a bit of a knob & a disruptive influence on the rest of the team
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 15,578
    fenaddick said:
    Nah he is bang on
    Really?

    I don't dislike Bellingham for any reason other than that I think he's a bit of a knob & a disruptive influence on the rest of the team
    You don’t, and he’s not saying everyone does either. What he’s saying (and I recommend watching the full 2 minute clip if you haven’t) is that the media treats young black men differently. They then set the agenda about what gets talked about because we react to it. 

    Go and compare headlines written about young black players and young white players, when you put them side by side it’s genuinely eye opening. 

    Bellingham probably is a bit of a knob, lots of elite sports people are. There’s no way he’s the only knob in that squad.The thing people seem to be most reacting to this camp is his alleged non celebration of the goal (which can be easily disproved) and being annoyed about being substituted. I want my players to be annoyed about being substituted! 
  • SID
    SID Posts: 276
    He is a black superstar though. I’m not being deliberately  facetious, but I don’t understand the “not ready” part. Is it just because he’s been criticised? I like Ian Wright and he doesn’t come across as a bandwagon jumper so I’m sure he’s being sincere I just don’t get it. 
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,344
    edited November 2025
    Interesting he used Paul Pogba as an example, who was absolute shit in this country and got paid eye watering amounts for it. Plenty of white players have got similar stick for less.

    He must have missed the black superstars this country has produced, Mo Farah, Linford Christie, Anthony Joshua, Lennox Lewis. 

    Be good to know who he actually means by ‘they’ as well, shouldn’t be hard for him seeing he’s worked for pretty much every media outlet in the country. 
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,235
    Wright is both correct and incorrect, inasmuch as there definitely are at least some people whose dislike of Bellingham is to a lesser or greater extent based on his race.
    On the other hand, Bellingham does genuinely seem to be a pretty abrasive/divisive personality in his own right and probably does rub some people the wrong way for reasons nothing to do with the colour of his skin.

    The problem is that it can sometimes be difficult to work out which is which.
  • AllHailTheHen
    AllHailTheHen Posts: 3,140
    edited November 2025
    I think the thing with Bellingham was that his early career profile was quite carefully managed as this grounded, humble person whereas he's actually proven himself to be a bit of an egotistical knob. Thats nothing to do with his colour and I take zero notice of what the press say. There are plenty of egotistical knobs in football with James Maddison be being top of my personal list.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,701
    I think the thing with Bellingham was that his early career profile was quite carefully managed as this grounded, humble person whereas he's actually proven himself to be a bit of an egotistical knob. Thats nothing to do with his colour and I take zero notice of what the press say. There are plenty of egotistical knobs in football with James Maddison be being top of my personal list.
    He probably was quite grounded. Real Madrid Star Player has a close to 100% terminal arrogance comorbidity
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 58,540
    Signing a contract extension to 2028

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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 15,578
    Signing a contract extension to 2028
    I mean I don’t mind it but that’s a bit bizarre. He was brought in to win the WC and hasn’t had a chance to do that. I presume the FA have seen the number of big openings likely this summer and decided to tie him down but not sure why he’d not want to take one of those big jobs 
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 27,287
    I really like Tuchel, but think this is madness to be honest

    Part of the attraction of him having a one tournament contract, is that he doesn't have to care about upsetting certain players by not playing them or even not taking them to the WC

    He literally has free rein to do as he wants and everyone knows it is all geared to winning the World Cup and giving zero fucks. He is not there to build the team for next 4 years

    What if we go out in the first knock out round, or get heavily beaten the next round ?

    Who will want him to carry on then


    By all means, give him a new contract if we do well (if he wants it)
  • JustFloydRoad
    JustFloydRoad Posts: 2,298
    Signing a contract extension to 2028

    I don't know I don't care Tuchel is the guy to get us there.


  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,469
    edited 11:00AM
    Can only think that one or more clubs have spoken to FA about taking him this summer, and by extending the contract now, there's nothing else to take Tuchel's mind off the job of winning the cup. 
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 21,290
    edited 11:14AM
    Can only think that one or more clubs have spoken to FA about taking him this summer, and by extending the contract now, there's nothing else to take Tuchel's mind off the job of winning the cup. 

    Not sure what the value is of his England contract but I'm pretty sure United, City or Spurs would top it quite significantly.

    Besides, as he would be out of contract after the World Cup other clubs wouldn't need to speak to The FA unless they would want him earlier.