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  • Uboat
    Uboat
    I would 100% take 16th right now. 
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick
    Given the budget I think we have done good business, we have a good manager and a bit of depth in the squad (depending on who stays). It is nice to see players coming in before too many go out - the right way to do things. In the current position I don't believe we could have realistically asked much more of the board and management. Whatever happens on the pitch, I am not faulting the work and effort that has gone in to putting together a squad. 
  • RC_CAFC
    RC_CAFC
    MillwallFan said:
    follett said:
    5-10 years ago a proper investment in the side like this window has been would see a League One club probably cement top half but nowadays the gap between League One and the Championship is so big I still think we will find it very difficult. 
    We are giving it a go though and that’s all we can ask, hopefully it’s enough to stay up, unfortunately the two sides we’ve come up with are unlikely to go down so we will have to finish above three other sides
    Spot on with that first paragraph. It’s a much bigger jump up these days between L1 and the championship. 

    You’ve made some decent signings though and the basket case that is Sheffield Wednesday will finish bottom so you only have to worry about finishing above two others. Even starting the season minus 4 points I think thats doable. 
    I think Hull are coming 23rd so for me, it’s just one other team we have to be better than. Which will be easier said than done, but I’d hope with our investment and manager, we’ll be better than at least one of Preston, Portsmouth, Derby and Bristol City (without Manning, I think they’ll really struggle this year.)
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER
    MillwallFan said:
    follett said:
    5-10 years ago a proper investment in the side like this window has been would see a League One club probably cement top half but nowadays the gap between League One and the Championship is so big I still think we will find it very difficult. 
    We are giving it a go though and that’s all we can ask, hopefully it’s enough to stay up, unfortunately the two sides we’ve come up with are unlikely to go down so we will have to finish above three other sides
    Spot on with that first paragraph. It’s a much bigger jump up these days between L1 and the championship. 

    You’ve made some decent signings though and the basket case that is Sheffield Wednesday will finish bottom so you only have to worry about finishing above two others. Even starting the season with minus 4 points I think thats doable. 
    I think this is nonsense - you hope this is the case but it isn't. The championship is no stronger than it was 5 or 10 years ago - same with the premiership. More money, bigger transfers does not mean better players. We shall see.   
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26
    RC_CAFC said:
    MillwallFan said:
    follett said:
    5-10 years ago a proper investment in the side like this window has been would see a League One club probably cement top half but nowadays the gap between League One and the Championship is so big I still think we will find it very difficult. 
    We are giving it a go though and that’s all we can ask, hopefully it’s enough to stay up, unfortunately the two sides we’ve come up with are unlikely to go down so we will have to finish above three other sides
    Spot on with that first paragraph. It’s a much bigger jump up these days between L1 and the championship. 

    You’ve made some decent signings though and the basket case that is Sheffield Wednesday will finish bottom so you only have to worry about finishing above two others. Even starting the season minus 4 points I think thats doable. 
    I think Hull are coming 23rd so for me, it’s just one other team we have to be better than. Which will be easier said than done, but I’d hope with our investment and manager, we’ll be better than at least one of Preston, Portsmouth, Derby and Bristol City (without Manning, I think they’ll really struggle this year.)
    I keep on wanting to throw Oxford into that list but with Rowett they'll scrap their way to 19th or something. Bristol City a very good shout , Struber hasn't done a lot as a manager post Barnsley and I'm not convinced stylistically it's going to work. 
  • superdulvertonred
    superdulvertonred
    Would be happy with mid table and that is where I expect us to finish following this transfer window 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc
    Staying up is still a good result. Going into March/April without being worried about relegation would be a very good result.
  • cafc_se7
    cafc_se7
    DOUCHER said:
    MillwallFan said:
    follett said:
    5-10 years ago a proper investment in the side like this window has been would see a League One club probably cement top half but nowadays the gap between League One and the Championship is so big I still think we will find it very difficult. 
    We are giving it a go though and that’s all we can ask, hopefully it’s enough to stay up, unfortunately the two sides we’ve come up with are unlikely to go down so we will have to finish above three other sides
    Spot on with that first paragraph. It’s a much bigger jump up these days between L1 and the championship. 

    You’ve made some decent signings though and the basket case that is Sheffield Wednesday will finish bottom so you only have to worry about finishing above two others. Even starting the season with minus 4 points I think thats doable. 
    I think this is nonsense - you hope this is the case but it isn't. The championship is no stronger than it was 5 or 10 years ago - same with the premiership. More money, bigger transfers does not mean better players. We shall see.   
    I agree! Bristol City were crap for the best part of last season but still came within 3 games of the premier league which is insane! This was only because a handful of teams around them couldn’t sustain a push themselves. I am not denying it’s a tough league but to say it’s got stronger is not true! 

    All three promoted sides staying up last season proved that! 
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick
    DOUCHER said:
    MillwallFan said:
    follett said:
    5-10 years ago a proper investment in the side like this window has been would see a League One club probably cement top half but nowadays the gap between League One and the Championship is so big I still think we will find it very difficult. 
    We are giving it a go though and that’s all we can ask, hopefully it’s enough to stay up, unfortunately the two sides we’ve come up with are unlikely to go down so we will have to finish above three other sides
    Spot on with that first paragraph. It’s a much bigger jump up these days between L1 and the championship. 

    You’ve made some decent signings though and the basket case that is Sheffield Wednesday will finish bottom so you only have to worry about finishing above two others. Even starting the season with minus 4 points I think thats doable. 
    I think this is nonsense - you hope this is the case but it isn't. The championship is no stronger than it was 5 or 10 years ago - same with the premiership. More money, bigger transfers does not mean better players. We shall see.   
    agree with this - yes it's very competitive (but it always was), don't particularly think it's any stronger than when we last came up, it's just with teams paying massive money for the same standard of player it creates that illusion.

    We'll finish in the bottom 8 but I think we'll be 'relatively' comfortable. Hard to beat and will hopefully keep alot of clean sheets again, that alone will see us ok
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  • RC_CAFC
    RC_CAFC
    Elthamaddick said:
    DOUCHER said:
    MillwallFan said:
    follett said:
    5-10 years ago a proper investment in the side like this window has been would see a League One club probably cement top half but nowadays the gap between League One and the Championship is so big I still think we will find it very difficult. 
    We are giving it a go though and that’s all we can ask, hopefully it’s enough to stay up, unfortunately the two sides we’ve come up with are unlikely to go down so we will have to finish above three other sides
    Spot on with that first paragraph. It’s a much bigger jump up these days between L1 and the championship. 

    You’ve made some decent signings though and the basket case that is Sheffield Wednesday will finish bottom so you only have to worry about finishing above two others. Even starting the season with minus 4 points I think thats doable. 
    I think this is nonsense - you hope this is the case but it isn't. The championship is no stronger than it was 5 or 10 years ago - same with the premiership. More money, bigger transfers does not mean better players. We shall see.   
    agree with this - yes it's very competitive (but it always was), don't particularly think it's any stronger than when we last came up, it's just with teams paying massive money for the same standard of player it creates that illusion.

    We'll finish in the bottom 8 but I think we'll be 'relatively' comfortable. Hard to beat and will hopefully keep alot of clean sheets again, that alone will see us ok
    I think it is tougher this season than it was last.

    The three teams coming up are strong and Ipswich and Southampton in particular are going to be very good for the level. Leicester will be too probably but there’s every chance they implode.

    Definitely being hard to beat and keeping clean sheets will be the key. 
  • CafcSCP
    CafcSCP
    If NJ gets the best out of this lot, we’ll be fine.
    Steady the ship in the championship and push on from there.
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook
    MillwallFan said:
    follett said:
    5-10 years ago a proper investment in the side like this window has been would see a League One club probably cement top half but nowadays the gap between League One and the Championship is so big I still think we will find it very difficult. 
    We are giving it a go though and that’s all we can ask, hopefully it’s enough to stay up, unfortunately the two sides we’ve come up with are unlikely to go down so we will have to finish above three other sides
    Spot on with that first paragraph. It’s a much bigger jump up these days between L1 and the championship. 

    You’ve made some decent signings though and the basket case that is Sheffield Wednesday will finish bottom so you only have to worry about finishing above two others. Even starting the season with minus 4 points I think thats doable. 
    Starting on plus 4 and you still won’t make the play offs 😀
  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll
    edited July 28
    se9addick said:
    DOUCHER said:
    MillwallFan said:
    follett said:
    5-10 years ago a proper investment in the side like this window has been would see a League One club probably cement top half but nowadays the gap between League One and the Championship is so big I still think we will find it very difficult. 
    We are giving it a go though and that’s all we can ask, hopefully it’s enough to stay up, unfortunately the two sides we’ve come up with are unlikely to go down so we will have to finish above three other sides
    Spot on with that first paragraph. It’s a much bigger jump up these days between L1 and the championship. 

    You’ve made some decent signings though and the basket case that is Sheffield Wednesday will finish bottom so you only have to worry about finishing above two others. Even starting the season with minus 4 points I think thats doable. 
    I think this is nonsense - you hope this is the case but it isn't. The championship is no stronger than it was 5 or 10 years ago - same with the premiership. More money, bigger transfers does not mean better players. We shall see.   
    The Championship has definitely improved in quality over time, even since we were last in it. I really think a decent chunk of our fan base are going to get a rude awakening in a couple of weeks time when they see how high the standard is versus the pub league we’ve been slogging it out in for the last thousand years. 

    My perspective hasn’t massively changed with the Kelman signing, I think 21st would be a great finish and getting even that will be tough. Thankfully there will be a couple of teams with embargo’s & possible points deductions which will help us out. 
    You mainly can only play to the standard of the other team you are playing against. Sure, you can outclass them, run rings around them and generally look a much better standard but if they are shit then your game will come down a few notches. However, play a much better team or one from a higher division and your game often raises accordingly. There is/will be a big step up in the standard of opposition we will come up against but as we saw last time (and that was a very strong league that year) if you strengthen your squad, and we’ve definitely done that, you can more than hold you’re own against the other teams. We just need to avoid dodgy owners, an excessive number of injuries, Covid, lockdowns and our key striker deciding he no longer wants to play because he’s jumping ship. 
  • SouthWest_Addicks
    SouthWest_Addicks
    Racing Post have us finishing 20th. 

    Bottom 3 of Wrexham, Hull & Sheffield Wednesday. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted
    SouthWest_Addicks said:
    Racing Post have us finishing 20th. 

    Bottom 3 of Wrexham, Hull & Sheffield Wednesday. 
    What does a Horse Racing magazine know about Football?
  • SouthWest_Addicks
    SouthWest_Addicks
    ForeverAddickted said:
    SouthWest_Addicks said:
    Racing Post have us finishing 20th. 

    Bottom 3 of Wrexham, Hull & Sheffield Wednesday. 
    What does a Horse Racing magazine know about Football?
    https://www.racingpost.com/sport/football-tips/the-big-kick-off/out-on-july-28-the-big-kick-off-the-ultimate-football-betting-guide-free-in-the-racing-post-aHqOk8z77lfB/

    Apparently they know 80 pages worth of football.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted
    SouthWest_Addicks said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    SouthWest_Addicks said:
    Racing Post have us finishing 20th. 

    Bottom 3 of Wrexham, Hull & Sheffield Wednesday. 
    What does a Horse Racing magazine know about Football?
    https://www.racingpost.com/sport/football-tips/the-big-kick-off/out-on-july-28-the-big-kick-off-the-ultimate-football-betting-guide-free-in-the-racing-post-aHqOk8z77lfB/

    Apparently they know 80 pages worth of football.
    My post was more tongue in cheek, because whenever I think of Racing Post my first thought goes to Horse Racing
  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll
    SouthWest_Addicks said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    SouthWest_Addicks said:
    Racing Post have us finishing 20th. 

    Bottom 3 of Wrexham, Hull & Sheffield Wednesday. 
    What does a Horse Racing magazine know about Football?
    https://www.racingpost.com/sport/football-tips/the-big-kick-off/out-on-july-28-the-big-kick-off-the-ultimate-football-betting-guide-free-in-the-racing-post-aHqOk8z77lfB/

    Apparently they know 80 pages worth of football.
    They must all be multi-millionaires from all the money they make on their football bets…
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  • kafka
    kafka
    MillwallFan said:
    follett said:
    5-10 years ago a proper investment in the side like this window has been would see a League One club probably cement top half but nowadays the gap between League One and the Championship is so big I still think we will find it very difficult. 
    We are giving it a go though and that’s all we can ask, hopefully it’s enough to stay up, unfortunately the two sides we’ve come up with are unlikely to go down so we will have to finish above three other sides
    Spot on with that first paragraph. It’s a much bigger jump up these days between L1 and the championship. 

    You’ve made some decent signings though and the basket case that is Sheffield Wednesday will finish bottom so you only have to worry about finishing above two others. Even starting the season with minus 4 points I think thats doable. 
    You’re forgetting that our minus four is evened out by playing Pompey again. 
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike
    SouthWest_Addicks said:
    Racing Post have us finishing 20th. 

    Bottom 3 of Wrexham, Hull & Sheffield Wednesday. 
    Wrexham won’t go down 
  • TootingRedArmy
    TootingRedArmy
    I approach every season with optimism, in my head we’re going to be promoted and I’m not as I do every season planning to be away in May for the play offs…I know this is wildly optimistic but who knows and no doubt I will have a rude awakening but without hope what is left.? 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr
    edited July 28
    3G said:
    Lots of new signings means this team will need time to gel. 

    If we're in and around the bottom three in October I hope the fanbase gives NJ time to make it happen.

    Just remember what we looked like after Crawley at home last season, compared to where we ended up! 
    Even if we get relegated I don’t think NJ should be under any pressure or lose his job (unless it was a real disaster and we were 24th and a long way off) 

    If the worst did happen and we went down, who would you rather have in charge than him to take us back up? We’ve backed him with a long deal and recruitment, so need to stick with him whatever happens 
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup
    Worth noting that in recent seasons Luton got promoted, Ipswich went straight up after coming out of league one, and last year all 3 promoted clubs stayed up.

    Plus if we look at the clubs going the other way, in the last 3 seasons out of the 9 clubs relegated from the Championship to League one, only 2 of them got promoted back and one was Birmingham who broke every single spending record to do so. 

    So all of that doesn't say a lot for there being a huge gulf in class between league 1 and the championship. Of course there is a going to be an increase in quality but it's not like the gulf jumping from Championship to PL.

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