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POST-MATCH THREAD: Bristol Rovers v Charlton Athletic: Tuesday 1st October 2024 KO 19:45

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  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,328
    Well if we kept a clean sheet tonight we would have won as we scored twice! 
  • daveydanger
    daveydanger Posts: 1,338
    Gassan Ahadme makes me miss Paul Benson. 
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,556
    Jones did exactly the same v Blackpool in dropping Mitchell so seems he has a v short memory. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,825
    edited October 2024
    paulsturgess said:
    Callumcafc said:
    killerandflash said:
    Leuth said:
    North Lower Neil said:
    CAFCTrev said:
    Pretty horrific result, now 3 losses on the trot with unbeaten Birmingham to come on Saturday. 
    And I don't fancy us to get anything against Stockport either, could well be 5 losses on the trot.
    Then Barnsley and Wrexham. We could lose 7 in a row. Exeter won't be a pushover after that and then we have Peterborough and Huddersfield. Jones won't see in December 
    That run of games looks brutal for a team all at sea at the moment.

    Home vs 1st
    Home vs 5th
    Away vs 7th
    Home vs 2nd

    We'll have to be MASSIVELY better than we are at the moment to win any of those, or even get a point.


    True Charlton fashion: four wins from four when everyone is doom and gloom.
    Admin, please ban this troll, he’s given himself away. No way this guy is a Charlton fan 
    I don’t even know what’s prompted that. Maybe have a night off.

    And I’ve been told that I’m trying to shut down opposing views… never asked the mods to ban someone though
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,080
    edited October 2024
    I appreciate Jones owning up to getting things wrong, however he also said similar vs Blackpool. He needs to start getting things right as being 3 nil down rarely happens to us despite being in this league for what's seems like forever now
  • Gravesend_Addick
    Gravesend_Addick Posts: 7,300
    I was a big advocate of Nathan Jones when he took over. I felt he was a real coup for the club & honestly believed he was the man to take the club forward.   I still want to believe that he is the right man for the job, but it's hard to see any positives right now.

    I know he's only had 1 transfer window, but how many players has he brought in...8? 9??......,& how many of those players are an improvement on what we had last season.??

    I really want to believe NJ is the man to stabilise the club & take us forward, but I'm having doubts now.

    It's a running joke on this forum, but maybe we are cursed!!!!
  • daveydanger
    daveydanger Posts: 1,338
    Simon Church > Gassan Ahadme

    Prove me wrong
  • robinofottershaw
    robinofottershaw Posts: 1,928
    I would be interested to know what he thinks on reflection should have been his starting 11 and why he thinks that would have have made a difference.
  • daveydanger
    daveydanger Posts: 1,338
    robinofottershaw said:
    I would be interested to know what he thinks on reflection should have been his starting 11 and why he thinks that would have have made a difference.
    More Luton appearances 
  • CharltontillidieCOYR
    CharltontillidieCOYR Posts: 781
    daveydanger said:
    Gassan Ahadme makes me miss Paul Benson. 
    Love child of Piotr Parzyszek and Pawel Abbott 

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  • WishIdStayedinthePub
    WishIdStayedinthePub Posts: 648
    Narrow escape.  Went to the pub quiz instead of persuading my Millwall supporting mate to watch the match with me.

    I reckon Jones is off to Cardiff and the players know it.  Maybe it's just that our pre-season fitness advantage has now worn off, the other teams have worked out we're just huff and puff hoof ball ... but it feels like more than that.
  • O-Randy-Hunt
    O-Randy-Hunt Posts: 10,696
    WishIdStayedinthePub said:
    Narrow escape.  Went to the pub quiz instead of persuading my Millwall supporting mate to watch the match with me.

    I reckon Jones is off to Cardiff and the players know it.  Maybe it's just that our pre-season fitness advantage has now worn off, the other teams have worked out we're just huff and puff hoof ball ... but it feels like more than that.
    So you did stay in the pub?
  • paulsturgess
    paulsturgess Posts: 3,852
    Callumcafc said:
    paulsturgess said:
    Callumcafc said:
    killerandflash said:
    Leuth said:
    North Lower Neil said:
    CAFCTrev said:
    Pretty horrific result, now 3 losses on the trot with unbeaten Birmingham to come on Saturday. 
    And I don't fancy us to get anything against Stockport either, could well be 5 losses on the trot.
    Then Barnsley and Wrexham. We could lose 7 in a row. Exeter won't be a pushover after that and then we have Peterborough and Huddersfield. Jones won't see in December 
    That run of games looks brutal for a team all at sea at the moment.

    Home vs 1st
    Home vs 5th
    Away vs 7th
    Home vs 2nd

    We'll have to be MASSIVELY better than we are at the moment to win any of those, or even get a point.


    True Charlton fashion: four wins from four when everyone is doom and gloom.
    Admin, please ban this troll, he’s given himself away. No way this guy is a Charlton fan 
    I don’t even know what’s prompted that. Maybe have a night off.

    And I’ve been told that I’m trying to shut down opposing views… never asked the mods to ban someone though
    Said in jest Callum. No real Charlton fan could ever conceivably suggest that it would be “true Charlton fashion” to win four on the bounce when everyone is doom and gloom. 

    True Charlton fashion is when everything is doom and gloom, it gets even more fucking worse 
  • LennyLowrent
    LennyLowrent Posts: 2,705
    The cruelty of Charlton is not losing the last 3 winnable games.
    It is winning the next one.
    Need to feed the cycle of frustration.
  • cafcsinger
    cafcsinger Posts: 5,556
    Beginning to hate the way Nathan Jones talks in interviews. 'Aggression, intensity, front footed' - just same old buzz words from him. What about keeping the ball, playing it on the deck calmly etc? 
  • Mortimerwasgod
    Mortimerwasgod Posts: 551
    daveydanger said:
    Gassan Ahadme makes me miss Paul Benson. 
    Makes me miss Pawel Abbott!
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,825
    edited October 2024
    paulsturgess said:
    Callumcafc said:
    paulsturgess said:
    Callumcafc said:
    killerandflash said:
    Leuth said:
    North Lower Neil said:
    CAFCTrev said:
    Pretty horrific result, now 3 losses on the trot with unbeaten Birmingham to come on Saturday. 
    And I don't fancy us to get anything against Stockport either, could well be 5 losses on the trot.
    Then Barnsley and Wrexham. We could lose 7 in a row. Exeter won't be a pushover after that and then we have Peterborough and Huddersfield. Jones won't see in December 
    That run of games looks brutal for a team all at sea at the moment.

    Home vs 1st
    Home vs 5th
    Away vs 7th
    Home vs 2nd

    We'll have to be MASSIVELY better than we are at the moment to win any of those, or even get a point.


    True Charlton fashion: four wins from four when everyone is doom and gloom.
    Admin, please ban this troll, he’s given himself away. No way this guy is a Charlton fan 
    I don’t even know what’s prompted that. Maybe have a night off.

    And I’ve been told that I’m trying to shut down opposing views… never asked the mods to ban someone though
    Said in jest Callum. No real Charlton fan could ever conceivably suggest that it would be “true Charlton fashion” to win four on the bounce when everyone is doom and gloom. 

    True Charlton fashion is when everything is doom and gloom, it gets even more fucking worse 
    I can think of plenty of times over the years where we’ve been on a bad run and picked up unexpected win(s) against teams higher in the table.

    You only have to look at Derby away last season for the most recent example.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,947
    cafcsinger said:
    Beginning to hate the way Nathan Jones talks in interviews. 'Aggression, intensity, front footed' - just same old buzz words from him. What about keeping the ball, playing it on the deck calmly etc? 
    Other than perhaps Bolton, even when we were winning games we weren't especially front footed or aggressive. 
  • WestStandPete
    WestStandPete Posts: 73
    I’ve been supporting Charlton since 1966 watching my first game against Leyton Orient. I’ve always looked forward to Charlton games but this is the first time I can remember looking at a team sheet & thinking we are going to get nothing from the game. I just couldn’t see where a goal was coming from with that line up. I was really pleased when Jones got the job but am rapidly thinking he might be yet another managerial mistake. As others have mentioned, Bolton game aside, every game so far we haven’t played particularly well & every side we play seems to play better football than us. And that’s been the case for quite some time, even before Jones. Charlton always used to play attractive football, even under Curbs but in recent years that’s been few & far between no matter who the manager is & what players are signed. Most fans will accept unattractive football if it brings results but we play crap football & are not winning now. I hope Jones can turn it around because I I’ve always believed you judge a manager after a decent run of games. That can even mean after a couple of seasons, but unfortunately you don’t get that time these days. Plus I think after what we’ve had to tolerate over the last 10 years or so or patience threshold is very thin , meaning as soon as we lose a few games fans understandably get frustrated. I don’t see us as a quick fix , far from it but things do need to show improvement otherwise I can see things unraveling very quickly for Jones. Let’s see if there is any reaction against Birmingham because there needs to be for Jones sake ! 

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  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    We are stacking up the yellow cards which will soon force further changes if we're not careful.
  • The Prince-e-Paul
    The Prince-e-Paul Posts: 6,694
    seth plum said:
    We are stacking up the yellow cards which will soon force further changes if we're not careful.
    True. How many has NJ got? 
  • siblers
    siblers Posts: 2,030
    Wheresmeticket said:
    It doesn't make any difference who manages us or who owns the club. You don't have a blip for 10 years. This is who we are now.
    Closer to 17 years
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,292
    Fair play to him for holding his hands up and taking the blame... But... Is that the second or third time he has done that (defo v Blackpool, did he also do it v Stevenage?).  He can't keep simply saying he picked the wrong players and wrong tactics.

    I hope he can turn it around, gawd we need the stability.  More than the results though, the lack of any quality play and tactics (simply hoof it forward and run after it) is what worries me.

    All seems very dated football and incredibly limited.  The modern football world is way beyond this type of tactic surely.
  • ct_addick
    ct_addick Posts: 4,339
    Played golf this afternoon...beautiful day on Cape Cod.....turned on my phone and saw were 3-0 down and turned it off....usually watch all the games on Charlton TV....NJ is not the manager to take us forward...always said the right person is under our noses with Curbs.....so what he is 65 + bring in a younger coach ie Pearce to work with him..... 
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,281


    MuttleyCAFC said:
    We might as well draw lots and get a couple of lifers to play up front. We won't pose any threat but we will be cheap and what difference would that make?
    As a youngster I played for Welling United & Villacourt Rovers, I'm now (a very active) 70 but willing to give it a go
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,281
    SDAddick said:
    38 posts in five minutes says it all.

    Don't let the scoreline or the goals fool you, we were awful. If anything, it underlines how shit we were that we couldn't get at Rovers.

    There are a lot of problems right now. I need to get back to work, and then need to eat lunch, and then go to bed, and then go to work so I don't have time to outline all of them over the next 16 hours. But a lot is broken.

    I'm not Jones Out yet, just because I don't think there's a significantly better manager willing to come in and take over. But Jones is definitely on the hot seat. We've taken four points from six games, and the game we won in that stretch was against a poor side where we were poor. 

    Saturday is going to be very interesting. It's his job to change things, not just the team, not just the formation, but the preparation and style of play. Does he have that in him? I'm just not sure.
    I'm sure that most of us agree with that but where the hell do we go from here ?
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,819
    The only thing that has made me laugh this evening, having gone to be early at 1-0 is that i am now getting pop-up ads for hospitality packages to watch man utd. Possibly one of the more expensive ways to have as bad a time watching football as watching charlton. 

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