POST-MATCH THREAD: Cheltenham Town vs Charlton Athletic: Tuesday 5th March 2024 KO 19:45
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Fortune 82nd Minute said:Sorry but going to be critical of NJ.
Young Corey had an absolute nightmare tonight. His passing was just awful. He should have been taken off at least 20 minutes before he was. And as soon as Bakinson came on things improved.
Huge shout outs to Small - his fitness and athletism was unreal tonight. Sign him up now please - Coventry and Tennai Watson - considering he is playing with an injury he was very good.
Hopefully we are nearly safe now.17 -
Just read through the comments, it seemed that if you were there you generally had more favourable views than if you weren't.
I thoroughly enjoyed the performance & the evening.
First time I've seen us win away live this season.
Great day/evening.
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Pelling1993 said:jimmymelrose said:roseandcrown said:
I enjoyed that. Tired this morning after getting in just gone 1 but worth it.
Great result against a spirited Cheltenham team who lacked quality but did make us work for it.
How Jones has changed this team is an embarrassment to Apples, its night and day in comparison. Hard to pick out individuals as was a good solid team performance but thought that may have been Watson best game for us. Just one of many players Jones has improved.
Anderson and Kanu gave everything once again, but they looked tired, but the subs did well when they come on.
Hopefully, REG is not too much of a bad one as he has been really good but at least we have Jones and Hector coming back.
Only grumble is we had enough chances to have that game wrapped up in the first half and we do still have a switch off in us at the back.
However, Appleton didn’t have Small, Gillesphey, Bakinson or Coventry (EDIT and Edmonds Green)who were instrumental in our win last night. Nevertheless, in his first seven league games Appleton got 4 wins and 3 draws. NJ has got 2 wins, 4 draws and one defeat.
You’re just refusing the face the facts. I’m not saying that I’d rather have Appleton, just that everyone is getting far too carried away with NJ.11 -
jimmymelrose said:Pelling1993 said:jimmymelrose said:roseandcrown said:
I enjoyed that. Tired this morning after getting in just gone 1 but worth it.
Great result against a spirited Cheltenham team who lacked quality but did make us work for it.
How Jones has changed this team is an embarrassment to Apples, its night and day in comparison. Hard to pick out individuals as was a good solid team performance but thought that may have been Watson best game for us. Just one of many players Jones has improved.
Anderson and Kanu gave everything once again, but they looked tired, but the subs did well when they come on.
Hopefully, REG is not too much of a bad one as he has been really good but at least we have Jones and Hector coming back.
Only grumble is we had enough chances to have that game wrapped up in the first half and we do still have a switch off in us at the back.
However, Appleton didn’t have Small, Gillesphey, Bakinson or Coventry (EDIT and Edmonds Green)who were instrumental in our win last night. Nevertheless, in his first seven league games Appleton got 4 wins and 3 draws. NJ has got 2 wins, 4 draws and one defeat.
You’re just refusing the face the facts. I’m not saying that I’d rather have Appleton, just that everyone is getting far too carried away with NJ.
Small is Jones' man
Ramsey is Jones' man
Fiorini is Appleton's man
Coventry is Appleton's man
Jones wins that
Look at Tennai Watson
Look at Karoy Anderson
Look at Daniel Kanu
Unbeaten in 6
Didn't win in 15
And we're getting carried away by Nathan Jones
What a very silly opinion
Without Jones we'd probably get relegated
You can't see that?26 -
Braziliance said:Vlog for Cheltenham is up, can be found here:
https://youtu.be/9-czHssx5i8?si=vvMeTJokg4Mix5RA
Some subdued reactions from me this time, as I genuinely compromised my voice from my Derby antics, but stuck to the script other than that.
Hope you enjoy addicks, see you all at the Valley!4 -
Covered End said:Just read through the comments, it seemed that if you were there you generally had more favourable views than if you weren't.
I thoroughly enjoyed the performance & the evening.
First time I've seen us win away live this season.
Great day/evening.
Although i normally travel by train to games & this time went by coach, i enjoyed the trip & it was good to catch up with a few old faces.
In general i find that people who attend games, especially away games are far less critical than the 'Firestick' brigade.14 -
clive said:Covered End said:Just read through the comments, it seemed that if you were there you generally had more favourable views than if you weren't.
I thoroughly enjoyed the performance & the evening.
First time I've seen us win away live this season.
Great day/evening.
Although i normally travel by train to games & this time went by coach, i enjoyed the trip & it was good to catch up with a few old faces.
In general i find that people who attend games, especially away games are far less critical than the 'Firestick' brigade.
I agree with you about the sofa critics who can only see half or a quarter of the pitch at any one time and miss so much of the work off the ball but you do get the vile personal abuse aimed at players by critics with bulging eye balls and frothing at the mouth giving dogs abuse to individuals or the team at matches. I have had too many rows with critics at Cafc matches over the years when the abuse goes OTT.
I'm sure after Derby and Cheltenham the away fan were united in joy as Jones has transformed these players into competitors with a backbone who are on an unbeaten run of 6 games.
As one of our Poster's stated Tennai Watson in the Reading game and Nathan's 1st game was constantly being called an utter c*** by one moronic critic so it's not always helpful with the eclectic mix of people who make up our observers.4 -
supaclive said:jimmymelrose said:Pelling1993 said:jimmymelrose said:roseandcrown said:
I enjoyed that. Tired this morning after getting in just gone 1 but worth it.
Great result against a spirited Cheltenham team who lacked quality but did make us work for it.
How Jones has changed this team is an embarrassment to Apples, its night and day in comparison. Hard to pick out individuals as was a good solid team performance but thought that may have been Watson best game for us. Just one of many players Jones has improved.
Anderson and Kanu gave everything once again, but they looked tired, but the subs did well when they come on.
Hopefully, REG is not too much of a bad one as he has been really good but at least we have Jones and Hector coming back.
Only grumble is we had enough chances to have that game wrapped up in the first half and we do still have a switch off in us at the back.
However, Appleton didn’t have Small, Gillesphey, Bakinson or Coventry (EDIT and Edmonds Green)who were instrumental in our win last night. Nevertheless, in his first seven league games Appleton got 4 wins and 3 draws. NJ has got 2 wins, 4 draws and one defeat.
You’re just refusing the face the facts. I’m not saying that I’d rather have Appleton, just that everyone is getting far too carried away with NJ.
Small is Jones' man
Ramsey is Jones' man
Fiorini is Appleton's man
Coventry is Appleton's man
Jones wins that
Look at Tennai Watson
Look at Karoy Anderson
Look at Daniel Kanu
Unbeaten in 6
Didn't win in 15
And we're getting carried away by Nathan Jones
What a very silly opinion
Without Jones we'd probably get relegated
You can't see that?
But I must admit that 1. I’m very impressed that the club were able to lure a man with NJ track record to a third tier relegation scrap and 2. Just how quickly the turn around has happened.
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It is definitely a different experience from being at the game as opposed to online. I fell asleep watching Northampton on Charltontv (admittedly I was knackered and I'm a lazy fucker) and then during the Pompey 0-0 I didn't find I could concentrate as much.
I do however love the option when I can't make a game as it keeps me in touch with the team, and I love that people have an option that live away from England.
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jimmymelrose said:roseandcrown said:
I enjoyed that. Tired this morning after getting in just gone 1 but worth it.
Great result against a spirited Cheltenham team who lacked quality but did make us work for it.
How Jones has changed this team is an embarrassment to Apples, its night and day in comparison. Hard to pick out individuals as was a good solid team performance but thought that may have been Watson best game for us. Just one of many players Jones has improved.
Anderson and Kanu gave everything once again, but they looked tired, but the subs did well when they come on.
Hopefully, REG is not too much of a bad one as he has been really good but at least we have Jones and Hector coming back.
Only grumble is we had enough chances to have that game wrapped up in the first half and we do still have a switch off in us at the back.
However, Appleton didn’t have Small, Gillesphey, Bakinson or Coventry (EDIT and Edmonds Green)who were instrumental in our win last night. Nevertheless, in his first seven league games Appleton got 4 wins and 3 draws. NJ has got 2 wins, 4 draws and one defeat.
It's near impossible that any adult could offer that opinion having watched the games.
You wouldn't even needed to have ever seen a game of football before, to see that we've gone from relegation level performances to promotion level performances.4 - Sponsored links:
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jimmymelrose said:Pelling1993 said:jimmymelrose said:roseandcrown said:
I enjoyed that. Tired this morning after getting in just gone 1 but worth it.
Great result against a spirited Cheltenham team who lacked quality but did make us work for it.
How Jones has changed this team is an embarrassment to Apples, its night and day in comparison. Hard to pick out individuals as was a good solid team performance but thought that may have been Watson best game for us. Just one of many players Jones has improved.
Anderson and Kanu gave everything once again, but they looked tired, but the subs did well when they come on.
Hopefully, REG is not too much of a bad one as he has been really good but at least we have Jones and Hector coming back.
Only grumble is we had enough chances to have that game wrapped up in the first half and we do still have a switch off in us at the back.
However, Appleton didn’t have Small, Gillesphey, Bakinson or Coventry (EDIT and Edmonds Green)who were instrumental in our win last night. Nevertheless, in his first seven league games Appleton got 4 wins and 3 draws. NJ has got 2 wins, 4 draws and one defeat.
You’re just refusing the face the facts. I’m not saying that I’d rather have Appleton, just that everyone is getting far too carried away with NJ.
Seriously though, Appleton eventually did more than enough to justify the scepticism on his initial appointment, and thanks to him, we are now seeing a reverse 'after the lord mayors show,' syndrome kicking in, if there is such a thing. More importantly, having the fans onside will buy Jones the sort of time needed to really make a positive impact on this club.
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clive said:Covered End said:Just read through the comments, it seemed that if you were there you generally had more favourable views than if you weren't.
I thoroughly enjoyed the performance & the evening.
First time I've seen us win away live this season.
Great day/evening.
Although i normally travel by train to games & this time went by coach, i enjoyed the trip & it was good to catch up with a few old faces.
In general i find that people who attend games, especially away games are far less critical than the 'Firestick' brigade.
There have certainly been times in the past where was at the Valley for SKY game for example, and would text my mate watching from home, to see if we should have had a penalty etc.5 -
JamesSeed said:Braziliance said:Vlog for Cheltenham is up, can be found here:
https://youtu.be/9-czHssx5i8?si=vvMeTJokg4Mix5RA
Some subdued reactions from me this time, as I genuinely compromised my voice from my Derby antics, but stuck to the script other than that.
Hope you enjoy addicks, see you all at the Valley!
I'm saving my steam for Cambridge away. Really looking forward to that one.
Also buzzing to find out it's looking like I can now attend every other game.
Gutted not to do the 46/46. I missed Peterborough, Lincoln and Pompey at home, plus Northampton and Bolton away. 5 of the 46 missed.
Poxy work, will aim to do it next season.4 -
Bring behind the goal, whether at away grounds or in the Covered End, does give you a much poorer view of the overall game than being on the side, where the main TV camera (and my regular Curbs stand seat) are.
Both of the goals in the Northampton game, plus the first 2 on Tuesday were at the other end to the away section, so I saw very little of them, especially as like many lower league grounds, the Cheltenham floodlights weren't as good as those at The Valley. Got a great view of our 2 late goals though!5 -
killerandflash said:Bring behind the goal, whether at away grounds or in the Covered End, does give you a much poorer view of the overall game than being on the side, where the main TV camera (and my regular Curbs stand seat) are.
Both of the goals in the Northampton game, plus the first 2 on Tuesday were at the other end to the away section, so I saw very little of them, especially as like many lower league grounds, the Cheltenham floodlights weren't as good as those at The Valley. Got a great view of our 2 late goals though!
I quite enjoy sitting west upper, the atmosphere is poor but you get a real good view of the game. I sort of get my matchday experience away and treat homes as a sort of rest game 😂2 -
Completely disregard my entire assessment of the game.
I watched online, therefore, is void.
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killerandflash said:Bring behind the goal, whether at away grounds or in the Covered End, does give you a much poorer view of the overall game than being on the side, where the main TV camera (and my regular Curbs stand seat) are.
Both of the goals in the Northampton game, plus the first 2 on Tuesday were at the other end to the away section, so I saw very little of them, especially as like many lower league grounds, the Cheltenham floodlights weren't as good as those at The Valley. Got a great view of our 2 late goals though!0 -
clive said:Covered End said:Just read through the comments, it seemed that if you were there you generally had more favourable views than if you weren't.
I thoroughly enjoyed the performance & the evening.
First time I've seen us win away live this season.
Great day/evening.
Although i normally travel by train to games & this time went by coach, i enjoyed the trip & it was good to catch up with a few old faces.
In general i find that people who attend games, especially away games are far less critical than the 'Firestick' brigade.
There are plenty of negative posters on this forum, some who go to many games, and some who watch online. I wouldn’t say, in general, that the more critical people are those watching at home.This is the best football forum around because of the great variety in views and where people are posting from.14 -
ForeverAddickted said:clive said:Covered End said:Just read through the comments, it seemed that if you were there you generally had more favourable views than if you weren't.
I thoroughly enjoyed the performance & the evening.
First time I've seen us win away live this season.
Great day/evening.
Although i normally travel by train to games & this time went by coach, i enjoyed the trip & it was good to catch up with a few old faces.
In general i find that people who attend games, especially away games are far less critical than the 'Firestick' brigade.
There have certainly been times in the past where was at the Valley for SKY game for example, and would text my mate watching from home, to see if we should have had a penalty etc.
It is good to be at a live game for the camaraderia, the atmosphere and the recognition of the speed of the game. Downsides are the fact that all away supporters stand, so that I have to sit at the front row, level with players' feet and cant appreciate the technical aspects that can only be picked up at a much raised level. Also, some supporters stand at the very front, not recognising tge viewing issues they cause to people like me (I was not alone at sitting in the front row)
Firestick viewing is less cost, no travelling, a better understanding of the flow of the game, and in my case, the ability to drink copious amounts of gin!13 -
supaclive said:jimmymelrose said:Pelling1993 said:jimmymelrose said:roseandcrown said:
I enjoyed that. Tired this morning after getting in just gone 1 but worth it.
Great result against a spirited Cheltenham team who lacked quality but did make us work for it.
How Jones has changed this team is an embarrassment to Apples, its night and day in comparison. Hard to pick out individuals as was a good solid team performance but thought that may have been Watson best game for us. Just one of many players Jones has improved.
Anderson and Kanu gave everything once again, but they looked tired, but the subs did well when they come on.
Hopefully, REG is not too much of a bad one as he has been really good but at least we have Jones and Hector coming back.
Only grumble is we had enough chances to have that game wrapped up in the first half and we do still have a switch off in us at the back.
However, Appleton didn’t have Small, Gillesphey, Bakinson or Coventry (EDIT and Edmonds Green)who were instrumental in our win last night. Nevertheless, in his first seven league games Appleton got 4 wins and 3 draws. NJ has got 2 wins, 4 draws and one defeat.
You’re just refusing the face the facts. I’m not saying that I’d rather have Appleton, just that everyone is getting far too carried away with NJ.
Small is Jones' man
Ramsey is Jones' man
Fiorini is Appleton's man
Coventry is Appleton's man
Jones wins that
Look at Tennai Watson
Look at Karoy Anderson
Look at Daniel Kanu
Unbeaten in 6
Didn't win in 15
And we're getting carried away by Nathan Jones
What a very silly opinion
Without Jones we'd probably get relegated
You can't see that?
I agree that NJ has improved our two young players, something Appleton was incapable of.
I put a league table comparing statistics which are fact and yet still you find a want to argue against it. That’s a ’genuine wow moment.’
Obviously I’m in a minority in not seeing everything black and white, but just look at the results and read my post properly.4 - Sponsored links:
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jimmymelrose said:supaclive said:jimmymelrose said:Pelling1993 said:jimmymelrose said:roseandcrown said:
I enjoyed that. Tired this morning after getting in just gone 1 but worth it.
Great result against a spirited Cheltenham team who lacked quality but did make us work for it.
How Jones has changed this team is an embarrassment to Apples, its night and day in comparison. Hard to pick out individuals as was a good solid team performance but thought that may have been Watson best game for us. Just one of many players Jones has improved.
Anderson and Kanu gave everything once again, but they looked tired, but the subs did well when they come on.
Hopefully, REG is not too much of a bad one as he has been really good but at least we have Jones and Hector coming back.
Only grumble is we had enough chances to have that game wrapped up in the first half and we do still have a switch off in us at the back.
However, Appleton didn’t have Small, Gillesphey, Bakinson or Coventry (EDIT and Edmonds Green)who were instrumental in our win last night. Nevertheless, in his first seven league games Appleton got 4 wins and 3 draws. NJ has got 2 wins, 4 draws and one defeat.
You’re just refusing the face the facts. I’m not saying that I’d rather have Appleton, just that everyone is getting far too carried away with NJ.
Small is Jones' man
Ramsey is Jones' man
Fiorini is Appleton's man
Coventry is Appleton's man
Jones wins that
Look at Tennai Watson
Look at Karoy Anderson
Look at Daniel Kanu
Unbeaten in 6
Didn't win in 15
And we're getting carried away by Nathan Jones
What a very silly opinion
Without Jones we'd probably get relegated
You can't see that?
I agree that NJ has improved our two young players, something Appleton was incapable of.
I put a league table comparing statistics which are fact and yet still you find a want to argue against it. That’s a ’genuine wow moment.’
Obviously I’m in a minority in not seeing everything black and white, but just look at the results and read my post properly.
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Great Vlog Brazilliance, hope you're going to do plenty more this season.
Also good to see you with Jason W, enjoy his vlogs as well!2 -
Sorry mean't Josh not Jason!0
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Silverdreammachine said:Great Vlog Brazilliance, hope you're going to do plenty more this season.
Also good to see you with Jason W, enjoy his vlogs as well!
Yeah Josh is a good lad, so are all his mates who regularly feature on his vlog.
Matt also got on who's sort of Cheltenham resident vlogger, but truth be told, I was most excited at Nick Jordan getting on, a really interesting character and you could tell he loved reflecting on his footballing days, we spoke more off camera. It's amazing doing this though as you speak to people you otherwise wouldn't.
Anywho, glad you enjoyed mate.4 -
What we have to look at IMO is the way we are playing. It is much more around equalling or bettering our opponents for workrate and physicality and then relying on our extra quality to make the difference. During our run, we have played the top three, two of them away from home. We have also played a team which when we played them was the form team of the league and on top of that Northampton who were on decent form and Cheltenham who are not easy to play away (Pompey found that out). This was a run of games that most of us were looking at with a bit of trepedation.
I didn't think we would have managers saying we were more athletic, harder and indeed that we kick their best players. I love that because I think we have been a soft team for a while. That NJ can do this with many of the same players is a great achievement. I wasn't sure of the appointment because I didn't think the change he has done was possible with the players we had and if he didn't work we would be stuck with him. I was wrong on that score and it has also meant I have looked at a few players again in a different light. It clearly was wrong and it is a stepping stone to next season IMO.17 -
Excellent post @MuttleyCAFC.0
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For what it’s worth I’ve seen hardly any games this season but was at Reading away and Cheltenham last Tuesday.
Given that 13 of the 18 for Reading were in the 18 at Cheltenham, the difference - what you might call the Jones factor - was remarkable. Every player who was out there on Tuesday was busting a gut, closing them down, harrying them, and going in hard.It’s a long time since Charlton players have shown that level of fitness, intensity and aggression. It can only down to Nathan Jones and is the reason we are now on a run of 6 undefeated and looking up rather than down.6 -
It’s plainly obvious the improvement in every players performances since NJ has arrived. That can’t be denied. Officially none of the players are those NJ signed although Ramsay and Small certainly have more than a whiff of his involvement.
@jimmymelrose was against NJ’s appointment and thought Appleton deserved more time so has an agenda.4 -
LargeAddick said:It’s plainly obvious the improvement in every players performances since NJ has arrived. That can’t be denied. Officially none of the players are those NJ signed although Ramsay and Small certainly have more than a whiff of his involvement.
@jimmymelrose was against NJ’s appointment and thought Appleton deserved more time so has an agenda.
Assuming Jones would have joined at all with us in the bottom 4.7 -
Enjoyed your latest video @Braziliance, always look forward to them. Keep them coming!1