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  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,905
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    Huskaris said:
    Any politician with money is always "lining [mates/families/their] pockets" it's the laziest and easiest trope going, the parallel of "in hock to their union paymasters" about everything anyone on the left does. 

    Lazy. 
    Yet still fairly accurate, unless there’s some other reason to ditch the pre agreed targets?
    Although they wont say it the reason for the big turnaround is that everyone realised that it just isnt achievable without alot of unpopular pain for the electorate, which in the main we wouldnt accept. It is very easy to say "switch to renewables" ( I wish we would as it is my business ) but the infrastructure to be able to do that isnt there and the cost of getting of there would make HS2 seem like a steal. The issue of balancing the grid to be able to cope with the peaks in demand along with the peaks and troughs of supply via renewables is not a quick easy fix
  • Huskaris
    Huskaris Posts: 9,844
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    Huskaris said:
    Any politician with money is always "lining [mates/families/their] pockets" it's the laziest and easiest trope going, the parallel of "in hock to their union paymasters" about everything anyone on the left does. 

    Lazy. 
    Yet still fairly accurate, unless there’s some other reason to ditch the pre agreed targets?
    Desperately trying to do anything to cling onto power. 

    I think they deserve to lose the next election for this decision alone, and think it's absolutely outrageous putting short term electioneering ahead of the long term future of the UK and the planet. 

    I don't think he's pocketing a shedload of cash for whatever mate/family member asked him. 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,030
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    Huskaris said:
    Any politician with money is always "lining [mates/families/their] pockets" it's the laziest and easiest trope going, the parallel of "in hock to their union paymasters" about everything anyone on the left does. 

    Lazy. 
    Yet still fairly accurate, unless there’s some other reason to ditch the pre agreed targets?
    I think it predominantly politics. The Tory party realised in the Uxbridge by-election that there are a significant number of voters who are ambivalent, or actively against, any sort of green policy which inconveniences them/costs them money. That’s who they are trying to win over with this nonsense. 
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,618
    AndyG said:
    Anyone who looks at the facts and doesn’t conclude that the climate emergency isn’t a potential extinction event for our planet is frankly a moron. Political figures the world over will never make the radical decisions required to change course because we the public wouldn’t accept the hardships. Humans are basically selfish and would not sacrifice anything to try and save the planet for future generations beyond doing a bit of recycling.
    the only chance we have is that somewhere there is a clever scientific brain that can come up with a reversal 

    I agree but although I’ve said this before, I believe a climate catastrophe in one of the major players and we’ll see opinions and how the developed word deals with this emergency change very quickly. Awful thought but perhaps we need thousands of Americans or Europeans to die in one event for the greater long term good of millions and millions of people or even the survival of the species. 
  • Manic_mania
    Manic_mania Posts: 2,257
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-66952980

    this seemed like the most apropriate place to include this;

    hope they name and shame the little prick that did it.
  • ME14addick
    ME14addick Posts: 9,761
    Manic_mania said:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-66952980

    this seemed like the most apropriate place to include this;

    hope they name and shame the little prick that did it.
    It's unbelievable that anyone would do that. I hope the person who did it is severely punished.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,021
    ME14addick said:
    Manic_mania said:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-66952980

    this seemed like the most apropriate place to include this;

    hope they name and shame the little prick that did it.
    It's unbelievable that anyone would do that. I hope the person who did it is severely punished.
    They should get the birch.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,021
    edited September 2023
    ME14addick said:
    Manic_mania said:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-66952980

    this seemed like the most apropriate place to include this;

    hope they name and shame the little prick that did it.
    It's unbelievable that anyone would do that. I hope the person who did it is severely punished.
    I don't disagree, but suspect they may also need therapy and/or education. Just wtf would be going on in their heads?

    Not convinced about naming and shaming. That might be what they want.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    It is likely that scientists can find a solution, but that solution might be to reduce the world’s population by 75%, and the over 70’s by 100%.
    A kind of Soylent Green future.
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,442
    ME14addick said:
    Manic_mania said:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-66952980

    this seemed like the most apropriate place to include this;

    hope they name and shame the little prick that did it.
    It's unbelievable that anyone would do that. I hope the person who did it is severely punished.
    A 16-year-old boy has been arrested on suspicion of criminal damage.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-66957589
    The police hope he will turnover a new leaf.
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  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,618
    Stig said:
    ME14addick said:
    Manic_mania said:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-66952980

    this seemed like the most apropriate place to include this;

    hope they name and shame the little prick that did it.
    It's unbelievable that anyone would do that. I hope the person who did it is severely punished.
    They should get the birch.
    I’m against corporal punishment but the little shit needs a good kick in the bollocks.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    I can’t help thinking the chain sawing of that lovely Sycamore tree is a metaphor for the mindset of those who voted leave.
    Apologise as this ought to be in the politics section, but that section doesn’t exist as a place to respond to new news.
  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 6,846
    seth plum said:
    I can’t help thinking the chain sawing of that lovely Sycamore tree is a metaphor for the mindset of those who voted leave.
    Apologise as this ought to be in the politics section, but that section doesn’t exist as a place to respond to new news.
    I agree. Also symbolic given the trees location on an ancient border. Likely a racist did it.
  • Huskaris
    Huskaris Posts: 9,844
    SporadicAddick said:
    seth plum said:
    I can’t help thinking the chain sawing of that lovely Sycamore tree is a metaphor for the mindset of those who voted leave.
    Apologise as this ought to be in the politics section, but that section doesn’t exist as a place to respond to new news.
    I agree. Also symbolic given the trees location on an ancient border. Likely a racist did it.
    Whoever did it is definitely a right winger, definitely didn't get the vaccine either. They probably listen to "far right" conspiracy theorists like Piers Corbyn and Russel Brand  :D
  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,234
    seth plum said:
    I can’t help thinking the chain sawing of that lovely Sycamore tree is a metaphor for the mindset of those who voted leave.
    Apologise as this ought to be in the politics section, but that section doesn’t exist as a place to respond to new news.
    Oh terrific! The crowd love it. And so do the judges. Top trolling! 10/10 👍  😉
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,667
    seth plum said:
    I can’t help thinking the chain sawing of that lovely Sycamore tree is a metaphor for the mindset of those who voted leave.
    Apologise as this ought to be in the politics section, but that section doesn’t exist as a place to respond to new news.
    A 16 year old cut the tree down.
    He would have been a little kid when the UK voted to leave. 
    Not sure what point you are trying to make apart trom attention seeking yet again. 
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    The point I am making is a personal one that doesn’t need further debate. The wanton cutting down of the tree was a destructive act, and now any regret by the perpetrator is irrelevant because the damage can’t be put right or made better in any way.
    That is why I described it as a metaphor.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    seth plum said:
    The point I am making is a personal one that doesn’t need further debate. The wanton cutting down of the tree was a destructive act, and now any regret by the perpetrator is irrelevant because the damage can’t be put right or made better in any way.
    That is why I described it as a metaphor.
    If a point you're making doesn't require debate don't put it on a public, open forum for discussion. 

    You're purposefully trying to kick off ANOTHER Brexit debate and you know it. 
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Not at all. The cutting down of the tree is new news and I posted what it made me think about.
    Isn’t the climate emergency debate about wanton destruction and what can be done to repair the damage?
    If such damage and destruction evokes other thoughts then so be it, just as people see the ULEZ issue evoking thoughts about money.
  • Huskaris
    Huskaris Posts: 9,844
    Another metaphor that this is reminding me of is Japanese knotweed. 

    Incredibly invasive and impossible to get rid of. 
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  • O-Randy-Hunt
    O-Randy-Hunt Posts: 10,631
    SporadicAddick said:
    seth plum said:
    I can’t help thinking the chain sawing of that lovely Sycamore tree is a metaphor for the mindset of those who voted leave.
    Apologise as this ought to be in the politics section, but that section doesn’t exist as a place to respond to new news.
    I agree. Also symbolic given the trees location on an ancient border. Likely a racist did it.
    100% a meat eater too who rides a non ulez compliant moped and goes by the pronouns of he/him
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,981
    edited September 2023
    seth plum said:
    I can’t help thinking the chain sawing of that lovely Sycamore tree is a metaphor for the mindset of those who voted leave.
    Apologise as this ought to be in the politics section, but that section doesn’t exist as a place to respond to new news.
    I was thinking your imbecilic posts couldn't get any more brain dead, but I was wrong.

    Absolutely, hell bent on causing friction & trying to provoke arguments every waking moment. 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,241
    Covered End said:
    seth plum said:
    I can’t help thinking the chain sawing of that lovely Sycamore tree is a metaphor for the mindset of those who voted leave.
    Apologise as this ought to be in the politics section, but that section doesn’t exist as a place to respond to new news.
    I was thinking your imbecilic posts couldn't get any more brain dead, but I was wrong.

    Absolutely, hell bent on causing friction & trying to provoke arguments every waking moment. 
    A must win match!
  • Major
    Major Posts: 1,026
    edited September 2023
    seth plum said:
    I can’t help thinking the chain sawing of that lovely Sycamore tree is a metaphor for the mindset of those who voted leave.
    Apologise as this ought to be in the politics section, but that section doesn’t exist as a place to respond to new news.

    What a plonker post. Mind you, why change now?

    Kid is released on bail. 60 year old man now arrested. Locals say he had a beef with the National Trust.  I'll wager he'd tell you where to stick your 'Metaphor'.
  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
    edited September 2023
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  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    Major said:
    seth plum said:
    I can’t help thinking the chain sawing of that lovely Sycamore tree is a metaphor for the mindset of those who voted leave.
    Apologise as this ought to be in the politics section, but that section doesn’t exist as a place to respond to new news.

    What a plonker post. Mind you, why change now?

    Kid is released on bail. 60 year old man now arrested. Locals say he had a beef with the National Trust.  I'll wager he'd tell you where to stick your 'Metaphor'.
    It did look like too clean a job for a 16 year old on his own.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    The Sycamore Tree was a deliberate act of wanton and mendacious destruction that cannot be put right.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,618
    The felling of this iconic tree is without any doubt an act of stupidity and vandalism in the extreme. There are however worse things happening every day. 
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,159
    seth plum said:
    The Sycamore Tree was a deliberate act of wanton and mendacious destruction that cannot be put right.
    What was mendacious about it?
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Yeah, mendacious is probably not the most appropriate word to use when we are yet to hear the ‘justification’.
    Should have used ‘diabolical’.

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