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  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,443
    Chippycafc said:
    Talking of dinosaurs, when are we going to get Eds 300 quid benefit he's been promising us for the last 16 months.  Blew away with the typhoon I guess with all the other promises. 
    Ed Miliband's pledge was to "reduce household energy bills by £300 in real terms by 1 January 2030".  It's not 2030 yet, so you'll have to be a bit more patient.  Although, as the energy cap has reduced since Q1 last year to the current quarter by £173, it could be argued that we're already seeing roughly 50% of that benefit already.  

    Adjusted for inflation - so that it meets the target of being "in real terms" - the saving, so far is £300. So, in answer to your question, we're already seeing it, although there are likely to be bigger savings still, as we approach the 2030 deadline.  

    That's the thing about measureable pledges: people can measure them.  Like the £350m a week to the NHS if we leave the EU. Boris Johnson's promise has so far fallen £105.35bn short.  I wonder when we're going to see that..?
  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,256
    Hello darkness, my old friend
  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,484
    I've no idea why people continue to waste their time with obvious wind up merchants on this or other threads. It isn't worth your energy. 
  • MrWalker
    MrWalker Posts: 4,155
    edited November 10
    Lifting the 2 child cap for benefits will cost the country £3.5 billion. PER YEAR
    It will result in huge carbon emissions. 60 tonnes of co2 per extra child.
    Utter madness.
  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 6,964
    Leroy Ambrose said:
    I've no idea why people continue to waste their time with obvious wind up merchants on this or other threads. It isn't worth your energy. 
    How will that energy be produced?
  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,484
    SporadicAddick said:
    Leroy Ambrose said:
    I've no idea why people continue to waste their time with obvious wind up merchants on this or other threads. It isn't worth your energy. 
    How will that energy be produced?
    L - and, indeed OL
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,151
    ken_shabby said:
    Stig said:
    Leroy Ambrose said:
    Huskaris said:
    msomerton said:
    Even if global warming causes the extinction of many species even us, it will not mean the end of life on this planet. Evolution will still carry on, as it has done after many previous mass extinction.
    Life will probably cease to exist about one billion years into the future.
    I read an article yesterday saying that the world will be inherited by the octopus should mankind be wiped out. Good to know!
    Not a chance. Lifespan too short for them to ever evolve into anything advanced. There's potential for cephalods to evolve from rudimentary intelligence to something more complex, but they have to get over that hump first, and they've had 300 million years to do that with no success.

    Same reason cockroaches can't ever succeed as a dominant species - basic biology is against them.
    It's a very human perspective to imagine that success is about intelligence or dominance. Success is about existing. 
    The dinosaurs were the top of the tree for millions of years but they weren't renowned for their intelligence, craftsmanship or civilization. Having a larger brain is a bit of a one off on this planet - most species who got to the top of the tree were just apex predators or very adaptable.
    I work with someone who strongly believes dinosaurs never existed, this is the kind of stupidity we are up against.
  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 7,800
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    ken_shabby said:
    Stig said:
    Leroy Ambrose said:
    Huskaris said:
    msomerton said:
    Even if global warming causes the extinction of many species even us, it will not mean the end of life on this planet. Evolution will still carry on, as it has done after many previous mass extinction.
    Life will probably cease to exist about one billion years into the future.
    I read an article yesterday saying that the world will be inherited by the octopus should mankind be wiped out. Good to know!
    Not a chance. Lifespan too short for them to ever evolve into anything advanced. There's potential for cephalods to evolve from rudimentary intelligence to something more complex, but they have to get over that hump first, and they've had 300 million years to do that with no success.

    Same reason cockroaches can't ever succeed as a dominant species - basic biology is against them.
    It's a very human perspective to imagine that success is about intelligence or dominance. Success is about existing. 
    The dinosaurs were the top of the tree for millions of years but they weren't renowned for their intelligence, craftsmanship or civilization. Having a larger brain is a bit of a one off on this planet - most species who got to the top of the tree were just apex predators or very adaptable.
    I work with someone who strongly believes dinosaurs never existed, this is the kind of stupidity we are up against.
    Is he Stu_Pid_of_Kunming ?

    I worked with a girl who asked me if evolution was real?
  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,256
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    ken_shabby said:
    Stig said:
    Leroy Ambrose said:
    Huskaris said:
    msomerton said:
    Even if global warming causes the extinction of many species even us, it will not mean the end of life on this planet. Evolution will still carry on, as it has done after many previous mass extinction.
    Life will probably cease to exist about one billion years into the future.
    I read an article yesterday saying that the world will be inherited by the octopus should mankind be wiped out. Good to know!
    Not a chance. Lifespan too short for them to ever evolve into anything advanced. There's potential for cephalods to evolve from rudimentary intelligence to something more complex, but they have to get over that hump first, and they've had 300 million years to do that with no success.

    Same reason cockroaches can't ever succeed as a dominant species - basic biology is against them.
    It's a very human perspective to imagine that success is about intelligence or dominance. Success is about existing. 
    The dinosaurs were the top of the tree for millions of years but they weren't renowned for their intelligence, craftsmanship or civilization. Having a larger brain is a bit of a one off on this planet - most species who got to the top of the tree were just apex predators or very adaptable.
    I work with someone who strongly believes dinosaurs never existed, this is the kind of stupidity we are up against.
    I identify as a Pterodactyl. 
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,151
    SuedeAdidas said:
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    ken_shabby said:
    Stig said:
    Leroy Ambrose said:
    Huskaris said:
    msomerton said:
    Even if global warming causes the extinction of many species even us, it will not mean the end of life on this planet. Evolution will still carry on, as it has done after many previous mass extinction.
    Life will probably cease to exist about one billion years into the future.
    I read an article yesterday saying that the world will be inherited by the octopus should mankind be wiped out. Good to know!
    Not a chance. Lifespan too short for them to ever evolve into anything advanced. There's potential for cephalods to evolve from rudimentary intelligence to something more complex, but they have to get over that hump first, and they've had 300 million years to do that with no success.

    Same reason cockroaches can't ever succeed as a dominant species - basic biology is against them.
    It's a very human perspective to imagine that success is about intelligence or dominance. Success is about existing. 
    The dinosaurs were the top of the tree for millions of years but they weren't renowned for their intelligence, craftsmanship or civilization. Having a larger brain is a bit of a one off on this planet - most species who got to the top of the tree were just apex predators or very adaptable.
    I work with someone who strongly believes dinosaurs never existed, this is the kind of stupidity we are up against.
    Is he Stu_Pid_of_Kunming ?

    I worked with a girl who asked me if evolution was real?
    Uber_Religious_Nutjob_In_Kunming

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  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 17,380
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    ken_shabby said:
    Stig said:
    Leroy Ambrose said:
    Huskaris said:
    msomerton said:
    Even if global warming causes the extinction of many species even us, it will not mean the end of life on this planet. Evolution will still carry on, as it has done after many previous mass extinction.
    Life will probably cease to exist about one billion years into the future.
    I read an article yesterday saying that the world will be inherited by the octopus should mankind be wiped out. Good to know!
    Not a chance. Lifespan too short for them to ever evolve into anything advanced. There's potential for cephalods to evolve from rudimentary intelligence to something more complex, but they have to get over that hump first, and they've had 300 million years to do that with no success.

    Same reason cockroaches can't ever succeed as a dominant species - basic biology is against them.
    It's a very human perspective to imagine that success is about intelligence or dominance. Success is about existing. 
    The dinosaurs were the top of the tree for millions of years but they weren't renowned for their intelligence, craftsmanship or civilization. Having a larger brain is a bit of a one off on this planet - most species who got to the top of the tree were just apex predators or very adaptable.
    I work with someone who strongly believes dinosaurs never existed, this is the kind of stupidity we are up against.
    Members of my family believe they co-existed with humans! 🤣
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,860
    cantersaddick said:
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    ken_shabby said:
    Stig said:
    Leroy Ambrose said:
    Huskaris said:
    msomerton said:
    Even if global warming causes the extinction of many species even us, it will not mean the end of life on this planet. Evolution will still carry on, as it has done after many previous mass extinction.
    Life will probably cease to exist about one billion years into the future.
    I read an article yesterday saying that the world will be inherited by the octopus should mankind be wiped out. Good to know!
    Not a chance. Lifespan too short for them to ever evolve into anything advanced. There's potential for cephalods to evolve from rudimentary intelligence to something more complex, but they have to get over that hump first, and they've had 300 million years to do that with no success.

    Same reason cockroaches can't ever succeed as a dominant species - basic biology is against them.
    It's a very human perspective to imagine that success is about intelligence or dominance. Success is about existing. 
    The dinosaurs were the top of the tree for millions of years but they weren't renowned for their intelligence, craftsmanship or civilization. Having a larger brain is a bit of a one off on this planet - most species who got to the top of the tree were just apex predators or very adaptable.
    I work with someone who strongly believes dinosaurs never existed, this is the kind of stupidity we are up against.
    Members of my family believe they co-existed with humans! 🤣
    Well crystal Palace played back then , so maybe they did.
  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 7,800
    blackpool72 said:
    cantersaddick said:
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    ken_shabby said:
    Stig said:
    Leroy Ambrose said:
    Huskaris said:
    msomerton said:
    Even if global warming causes the extinction of many species even us, it will not mean the end of life on this planet. Evolution will still carry on, as it has done after many previous mass extinction.
    Life will probably cease to exist about one billion years into the future.
    I read an article yesterday saying that the world will be inherited by the octopus should mankind be wiped out. Good to know!
    Not a chance. Lifespan too short for them to ever evolve into anything advanced. There's potential for cephalods to evolve from rudimentary intelligence to something more complex, but they have to get over that hump first, and they've had 300 million years to do that with no success.

    Same reason cockroaches can't ever succeed as a dominant species - basic biology is against them.
    It's a very human perspective to imagine that success is about intelligence or dominance. Success is about existing. 
    The dinosaurs were the top of the tree for millions of years but they weren't renowned for their intelligence, craftsmanship or civilization. Having a larger brain is a bit of a one off on this planet - most species who got to the top of the tree were just apex predators or very adaptable.
    I work with someone who strongly believes dinosaurs never existed, this is the kind of stupidity we are up against.
    Members of my family believe they co-existed with humans! 🤣
    Well crystal Palace played back then , so maybe they did.
    Established Mid-Mesozoic I believe?
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,213
    edited November 11
    ME14addick said:
    Chippycafc said:
    Talking of dinosaurs, when are we going to get Eds 300 quid benefit he's been promising us for the last 16 months.  Blew away with the typhoon I guess with all the other promises. 
    The promise was to cut energy bills by £300 by 2030
    He promised to slash our energy bills before then, pre and post election. The green bill is costing us more. Sadly some people were taken in. 
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,213
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/10/31/milibands-flagship-energy-report-300-bills-pledge/

    Here's the answer. 
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,443
    Chippycafc said:
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/10/31/milibands-flagship-energy-report-300-bills-pledge/

    Here's the answer. 
    The pledge not being included in a policy document really isn't the zinger you think it is. 
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,443
    SuedeAdidas said:
    blackpool72 said:
    cantersaddick said:
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    ken_shabby said:
    Stig said:
    Leroy Ambrose said:
    Huskaris said:
    msomerton said:
    Even if global warming causes the extinction of many species even us, it will not mean the end of life on this planet. Evolution will still carry on, as it has done after many previous mass extinction.
    Life will probably cease to exist about one billion years into the future.
    I read an article yesterday saying that the world will be inherited by the octopus should mankind be wiped out. Good to know!
    Not a chance. Lifespan too short for them to ever evolve into anything advanced. There's potential for cephalods to evolve from rudimentary intelligence to something more complex, but they have to get over that hump first, and they've had 300 million years to do that with no success.

    Same reason cockroaches can't ever succeed as a dominant species - basic biology is against them.
    It's a very human perspective to imagine that success is about intelligence or dominance. Success is about existing. 
    The dinosaurs were the top of the tree for millions of years but they weren't renowned for their intelligence, craftsmanship or civilization. Having a larger brain is a bit of a one off on this planet - most species who got to the top of the tree were just apex predators or very adaptable.
    I work with someone who strongly believes dinosaurs never existed, this is the kind of stupidity we are up against.
    Members of my family believe they co-existed with humans! 🤣
    Well crystal Palace played back then , so maybe they did.
    Established Mid-Mesozoic I believe?

  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 17,380
    edited November 11
    cantersaddick said:
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    ken_shabby said:
    Stig said:
    Leroy Ambrose said:
    Huskaris said:
    msomerton said:
    Even if global warming causes the extinction of many species even us, it will not mean the end of life on this planet. Evolution will still carry on, as it has done after many previous mass extinction.
    Life will probably cease to exist about one billion years into the future.
    I read an article yesterday saying that the world will be inherited by the octopus should mankind be wiped out. Good to know!
    Not a chance. Lifespan too short for them to ever evolve into anything advanced. There's potential for cephalods to evolve from rudimentary intelligence to something more complex, but they have to get over that hump first, and they've had 300 million years to do that with no success.

    Same reason cockroaches can't ever succeed as a dominant species - basic biology is against them.
    It's a very human perspective to imagine that success is about intelligence or dominance. Success is about existing. 
    The dinosaurs were the top of the tree for millions of years but they weren't renowned for their intelligence, craftsmanship or civilization. Having a larger brain is a bit of a one off on this planet - most species who got to the top of the tree were just apex predators or very adaptable.
    I work with someone who strongly believes dinosaurs never existed, this is the kind of stupidity we are up against.
    Members of my family believe they co-existed with humans! 🤣
    Chippycafc said:
    ME14addick said:
    Chippycafc said:
    Talking of dinosaurs, when are we going to get Eds 300 quid benefit he's been promising us for the last 16 months.  Blew away with the typhoon I guess with all the other promises. 
    The promise was to cut energy bills by £300 by 2030
    He promised to slash our energy bills before then, pre and post election. The green bill is costing us more. Sadly some people were taken in. 
    I was wrong. We do co-exist. There's one on this thread. ;)
  • MrWalker
    MrWalker Posts: 4,155
    cantersaddick said:
    cantersaddick said:
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    ken_shabby said:
    Stig said:
    Leroy Ambrose said:
    Huskaris said:
    msomerton said:
    Even if global warming causes the extinction of many species even us, it will not mean the end of life on this planet. Evolution will still carry on, as it has done after many previous mass extinction.
    Life will probably cease to exist about one billion years into the future.
    I read an article yesterday saying that the world will be inherited by the octopus should mankind be wiped out. Good to know!
    Not a chance. Lifespan too short for them to ever evolve into anything advanced. There's potential for cephalods to evolve from rudimentary intelligence to something more complex, but they have to get over that hump first, and they've had 300 million years to do that with no success.

    Same reason cockroaches can't ever succeed as a dominant species - basic biology is against them.
    It's a very human perspective to imagine that success is about intelligence or dominance. Success is about existing. 
    The dinosaurs were the top of the tree for millions of years but they weren't renowned for their intelligence, craftsmanship or civilization. Having a larger brain is a bit of a one off on this planet - most species who got to the top of the tree were just apex predators or very adaptable.
    I work with someone who strongly believes dinosaurs never existed, this is the kind of stupidity we are up against.
    Members of my family believe they co-existed with humans! 🤣
    Chippycafc said:
    ME14addick said:
    Chippycafc said:
    Talking of dinosaurs, when are we going to get Eds 300 quid benefit he's been promising us for the last 16 months.  Blew away with the typhoon I guess with all the other promises. 
    The promise was to cut energy bills by £300 by 2030
    He promised to slash our energy bills before then, pre and post election. The green bill is costing us more. Sadly some people were taken in. 
    I was wrong. We do co-exist. There's one on this thread. ;)
    What’s happened in your life to make you so unpleasant? 
    You used to be one of the best posters
  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,484
    MrWalker said:
    cantersaddick said:
    cantersaddick said:
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    ken_shabby said:
    Stig said:
    Leroy Ambrose said:
    Huskaris said:
    msomerton said:
    Even if global warming causes the extinction of many species even us, it will not mean the end of life on this planet. Evolution will still carry on, as it has done after many previous mass extinction.
    Life will probably cease to exist about one billion years into the future.
    I read an article yesterday saying that the world will be inherited by the octopus should mankind be wiped out. Good to know!
    Not a chance. Lifespan too short for them to ever evolve into anything advanced. There's potential for cephalods to evolve from rudimentary intelligence to something more complex, but they have to get over that hump first, and they've had 300 million years to do that with no success.

    Same reason cockroaches can't ever succeed as a dominant species - basic biology is against them.
    It's a very human perspective to imagine that success is about intelligence or dominance. Success is about existing. 
    The dinosaurs were the top of the tree for millions of years but they weren't renowned for their intelligence, craftsmanship or civilization. Having a larger brain is a bit of a one off on this planet - most species who got to the top of the tree were just apex predators or very adaptable.
    I work with someone who strongly believes dinosaurs never existed, this is the kind of stupidity we are up against.
    Members of my family believe they co-existed with humans! 🤣
    Chippycafc said:
    ME14addick said:
    Chippycafc said:
    Talking of dinosaurs, when are we going to get Eds 300 quid benefit he's been promising us for the last 16 months.  Blew away with the typhoon I guess with all the other promises. 
    The promise was to cut energy bills by £300 by 2030
    He promised to slash our energy bills before then, pre and post election. The green bill is costing us more. Sadly some people were taken in. 
    I was wrong. We do co-exist. There's one on this thread. ;)
    What’s happened in your life to make you so unpleasant? 
    You used to be one of the best posters
    Come off it

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  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 17,380
    MrWalker said:
    cantersaddick said:
    cantersaddick said:
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    ken_shabby said:
    Stig said:
    Leroy Ambrose said:
    Huskaris said:
    msomerton said:
    Even if global warming causes the extinction of many species even us, it will not mean the end of life on this planet. Evolution will still carry on, as it has done after many previous mass extinction.
    Life will probably cease to exist about one billion years into the future.
    I read an article yesterday saying that the world will be inherited by the octopus should mankind be wiped out. Good to know!
    Not a chance. Lifespan too short for them to ever evolve into anything advanced. There's potential for cephalods to evolve from rudimentary intelligence to something more complex, but they have to get over that hump first, and they've had 300 million years to do that with no success.

    Same reason cockroaches can't ever succeed as a dominant species - basic biology is against them.
    It's a very human perspective to imagine that success is about intelligence or dominance. Success is about existing. 
    The dinosaurs were the top of the tree for millions of years but they weren't renowned for their intelligence, craftsmanship or civilization. Having a larger brain is a bit of a one off on this planet - most species who got to the top of the tree were just apex predators or very adaptable.
    I work with someone who strongly believes dinosaurs never existed, this is the kind of stupidity we are up against.
    Members of my family believe they co-existed with humans! 🤣
    Chippycafc said:
    ME14addick said:
    Chippycafc said:
    Talking of dinosaurs, when are we going to get Eds 300 quid benefit he's been promising us for the last 16 months.  Blew away with the typhoon I guess with all the other promises. 
    The promise was to cut energy bills by £300 by 2030
    He promised to slash our energy bills before then, pre and post election. The green bill is costing us more. Sadly some people were taken in. 
    I was wrong. We do co-exist. There's one on this thread. ;)
    What’s happened in your life to make you so unpleasant? 
    You used to be one of the best posters
    That was clearly a joke. I even put the smiley
  • MrWalker
    MrWalker Posts: 4,155
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  • KingKinsella
    KingKinsella Posts: 1,346
    I haven't kept up with UK news too much but suspect that the Budget debacle(s) may have kept the

    "National Emergency Briefing on Climate and Nature Change" out of the news, I think I heard abit of Chris Packham but didn't get the context.
    It was held in Central Hall Westminster 27th November 2025
    Dave Borland does a  review of the meeting on his channel "Just have a think"-You tube.

    At the end of the video is QR code to link to add your name to a letter lobbying government and media to cover the topic fairly- its undeniable now but urgent action is missing and needed.

    By the way I find Dave Borlaces series of videos on a variety of climate related topics well researched and well explained- just have look
  • KingKinsella
    KingKinsella Posts: 1,346
    msomerton said:
    Even if global warming causes the extinction of many species even us, it will not mean the end of life on this planet. Evolution will still carry on, as it has done after many previous mass extinction.
    Life will probably cease to exist about one billion years into the future.
    Sure cockroaches etc. I just want my  5 and 7 months granddaughters to have happy healthy lives, which I have been lucky enough to have had.
  • KingKinsella
    KingKinsella Posts: 1,346
    KingKinsella said:
    I haven't kept up with UK news too much but suspect that the Budget debacle(s) may have kept the

    "National Emergency Briefing on Climate and Nature Change" out of the news, I think I heard abit of Chris Packham but didn't get the context.
    It was held in Central Hall Westminster 27th November 2025
    Dave Borland does a  review of the meeting on his channel "Just have a think"-You tube.

    At the end of the video is QR code to link to add your name to a letter lobbying government and media to cover the topic fairly- its undeniable now but urgent action is missing and needed.

    By the way I find Dave Borlaces series of videos on a variety of climate related topics well researched and well explained- just have look
    Dave Borlace

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