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  • RC_CAFC
    RC_CAFC
    golfaddick said:
    Firstly.      WIOTOS.....so lets temper our excitement a bit shall we.

    Secondly. Doesn't really fit in with our "lowering the age of the squad" mantra.

    Thirdly. Smacks of desperation & not a position we really need filling - unless he is going to play left back. 

    But is an ex player & everyone wets their pants wanting to sign those so lets crack on with the " now we are going to storm the league".


    We’ll have to agree to disagree on it being a position that doesn’t need filling. 

    But I agree on the caution of this one. He hasn’t done well in the last couple of seasons but he has always been a player who needs the right man management. Eddie Howe found it brilliantly with him and I am sure NA can do the same.

    If his legs are gone then we haven’t lost too much with this risk and he goes back in January, if he just needs to find the right environment then it could really pay off.

    One thing I would say is that Forest fans would drive Taylor to another club too and we know how good he can be.
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£
    EugenesAxe said:
    Bollochs
    Reminds me of the ventriloquist who was doing an audition at a theatre with his dummy.
    Half way through the theatre manager stopped him and said.
    ”Stop and fuck off out of here and take your stupid dummy with you, you are the worst I’ve ever seen.”
    With that he starts to walk off stage but turns the dummies head towards the manager and replies.
    ”Gollocks.”
  • StrikerFirmani
    StrikerFirmani
    Leuth said:
    This is all reminding me of the Ben Watson hype with added one-of-our-own. Let's see what's left of his engine shall we? A playing career can take it out of you somewhat
    This is my concern also.  Arter hasn't made the bench even in any of Forest games this season.  Don't know if he has been injured.  A good player without doubt during a good career but a wait and see for me.

    I thought we were supposed to be bringing the age of the team down.   
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  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19
    ElliotCAFC said:
    This is literally Ben Watson 2.0. 

    His legs have gone 
    JJ was great for years after his legs were apparently gone 🙂
  • se9addick
    se9addick
    Doubt he’s still the player that he once was, but I doubt that the player he is is worse than the rubbish we have in the middle of the pitch at the moment though.
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie
    addick1956 said:
    thenewbie said:
    Richard J said:
    @Dazzler21. Can I get a positive place on the list? Despite a few people dismissing it. I called this.

    As a player he is just what we need and as a left footer it means that we will have an alternative set piece taker.

    Why couldn't Arter and Lee signed earlier? Really buzzing about these two signings. 
    Probably their own clubs seeing who came in and who would be surplus to requirements rather than anything our end.

    To be fair, Gallen/Adkins/etc have been maintaining all window things would improve towards the death. They just might know what they were talking about after all.
    Hardly difficult considering  the low point we had been manoeuvred us into, squad wise.  However it is loans . Prefer permanent.


    I'm sure they would prefer permanent too, but Famewo has an option to buy and I imagine it would be fairly simple to make Lee's move permanent too if he's a big hit
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook
    Leuth said:
    Todds_right_hook said:
    Leuth said:
    CAFC_Norfolk said:
    Leuth said:
    This is why I'd advise caution for now. Admittedly, Arter has shown he can do it at a much higher level - but were Sunderland fans wrong about Dobson?
    Yes, they were.
    We haven’t given him someone to pass to in midfield who can then make plays. Dobson sits in front of the back four well and collects the ball to pass it on. Since the Wednesday game, we’ve simply reverted to our back four lumping it up to Stockley
    If that was the sum total of Dobson's job, you or I could do it. He's been torrid and has had to be substituted almost every game
    Totally disagree. He was mom against sheff w.  He played well against Wigan and soon as he was substituted, our midfield collapsed. He was substituted because we changed tactics and formation, not because of performance 

    You weren't at Milton Keynes then!
    No. You said he has been poor all season. Milton Keynes was one game.
  • Leuth
    Leuth
    stoneroses19 said:
    ElliotCAFC said:
    This is literally Ben Watson 2.0. 

    His legs have gone 
    JJ was great for years after his legs were apparently gone 🙂
    He wasn't though, was he? We ceded the midfield every time he played from about 2014-15 onwards. A great leader and thinker but his legs had absolutely gone
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r
    FishCostaFortune said:
    golfaddick said:
    Firstly.      WIOTOS.....so lets temper our excitement a bit shall we.

    Secondly. Doesn't really fit in with our "lowering the age of the squad" mantra.

    Thirdly. Smacks of desperation & not a position we really need filling - unless he is going to play left back. 

    But is an ex player & everyone wets their pants wanting to sign those so lets crack on with the " now we are going to storm the league".


    We make one signing over 30 (the others being 23, 28, 27, 24, 23, 23, 22 and 26 respectively) and you decide to throw that out. It's almost like you've been rehearsing it and waiting for your moment.

    And you wonder why you get a lot of stick on here. 
    It does fit the mantra of needing some experienced players to help us out, which both Gallen and Adkins have repeated in the last monyh or so.

    I really wouldn't be surprised if Albie goes out on loan. 
  • Leuth
    Leuth
    Todds_right_hook said:
    Leuth said:
    Todds_right_hook said:
    Leuth said:
    CAFC_Norfolk said:
    Leuth said:
    This is why I'd advise caution for now. Admittedly, Arter has shown he can do it at a much higher level - but were Sunderland fans wrong about Dobson?
    Yes, they were.
    We haven’t given him someone to pass to in midfield who can then make plays. Dobson sits in front of the back four well and collects the ball to pass it on. Since the Wednesday game, we’ve simply reverted to our back four lumping it up to Stockley
    If that was the sum total of Dobson's job, you or I could do it. He's been torrid and has had to be substituted almost every game
    Totally disagree. He was mom against sheff w.  He played well against Wigan and soon as he was substituted, our midfield collapsed. He was substituted because we changed tactics and formation, not because of performance 

    You weren't at Milton Keynes then!
    No. You said he has been poor all season. Milton Keynes was one game.
    His Statbank marks, albeit in three defeats, over the last three league games have gone 5.80, 4.69, 5.21. He is not playing well.
  • Red_Chester
    Red_Chester
    Also Arter might not be enjoying his time in Nottingham and wants to be back in London. Home life can make a big contribution to performances. 
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  • Leuth
    Leuth
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Really don’t get some of our fans issue with Dobson, okay, he isn’t Cullen, but he has broke up play well, reads the game pretty well, and keeps the ball ticking over, he gets stuck in and puts his body on the line. For a defensive midfielder, he has done an ok job. For me he has been our best midfielder this season.


    This is some tallest-dwarf shit right here (and it's been Clare, narrowly, imo)
  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC
    golfaddick said:
    Firstly.      WIOTOS.....so lets temper our excitement a bit shall we.

    Secondly. Doesn't really fit in with our "lowering the age of the squad" mantra.

    Thirdly. Smacks of desperation & not a position we really need filling - unless he is going to play left back. 

    But is an ex player & everyone wets their pants wanting to sign those so lets crack on with the " now we are going to storm the league".


    There's still a need to bring in experienced players even when trying to reduce the average age of the squad.

    You'd be quite stupid really to say nobody age 29+ may sign just because of age and when they can improve the team.
  • DubaiCAFC
    DubaiCAFC
    Leuth said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Really don’t get some of our fans issue with Dobson, okay, he isn’t Cullen, but he has broke up play well, reads the game pretty well, and keeps the ball ticking over, he gets stuck in and puts his body on the line. For a defensive midfielder, he has done an ok job. For me he has been our best midfielder this season.


    This is some tallest-dwarf shit right here (and it's been Clare, narrowly, imo)
    Are you for real?? Blimey. Apart from the 2nd half against Wednesday, he has been the worst player on the pitch.


  • Leuth
    Leuth
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Leuth said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Really don’t get some of our fans issue with Dobson, okay, he isn’t Cullen, but he has broke up play well, reads the game pretty well, and keeps the ball ticking over, he gets stuck in and puts his body on the line. For a defensive midfielder, he has done an ok job. For me he has been our best midfielder this season.


    This is some tallest-dwarf shit right here (and it's been Clare, narrowly, imo)
    Are you for real?? Blimey. Apart from the 2nd half against Wednesday, he has been the worst player on the pitch.


    None of them have been great. Clare has had his moments. Maybe our perspectives are different because we're basing it off different games though; I've watched SW and MK.
  • Covered End
    Covered End
    Bubble said:
    https://www.footballinsider247.com/charlton-athletic-agree-to-sign-nottingham-forest-star-exclusive/


    I've copied this because I like it so much.
  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom
    Leuth said:
    CAFC_Norfolk said:
    Leuth said:
    This is why I'd advise caution for now. Admittedly, Arter has shown he can do it at a much higher level - but were Sunderland fans wrong about Dobson?
    Yes, they were.
    We haven’t given him someone to pass to in midfield who can then make plays. Dobson sits in front of the back four well and collects the ball to pass it on. Since the Wednesday game, we’ve simply reverted to our back four lumping it up to Stockley
    If that was the sum total of Dobson's job, you or I could do it. He's been torrid and has had to be substituted almost every game

    Yeah but he's had Clare and Morgan as his main midfield partners. Even Levitt would struggle to shine alongside those two.



    😉
  • Leuth
    Leuth
    Ben18 said:
    This is classic Leuth. If everyone was ganging up on Dobson, he’d be claiming he was the second coming of Pirlo
    Well I'm usually keen to defend any player getting unfair stick. If I'm handing out the stick, that's when you have to worry. Maybe Dobson can come good but at the moment he's like a random outcome generator every time he goes near the play
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