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Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)

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  • Said earlier on in the thread that i guess this means we won't be going for Lowery or Dempsey but i hope that isn't the case.

    Whilst Arter is a good signing, i thought that we as a club would be moving away from loan signings which therefore mean recycling 4-5 of the first team every summer. Lowery and Dempsey are both decent players who would be cheap and if they did well would give TS a good profit, so i think that's still something he needs to look at. 

    But absolutely no complaints this week, Lee and Arter are quality signings.
  • Just thinking if we play Arter & Watson together it will save the need to put the training Manaquins out … win/win
  • I thought Arter hated us after we let him go?
  • Said earlier on in the thread that i guess this means we won't be going for Lowery or Dempsey but i hope that isn't the case.

    Whilst Arter is a good signing, i thought that we as a club would be moving away from loan signings which therefore mean recycling 4-5 of the first team every summer. Lowery and Dempsey are both decent players who would be cheap and if they did well would give TS a good profit, so i think that's still something he needs to look at. 

    But absolutely no complaints this week, Lee and Arter are quality signings.
    Just for the record, we haven’t actually signed Arter yet, have we?
  • Not as excited over Arter as most. Played one minute since February, and loaning a 31 yo from a struggling Forest isn't the sort of business I'd hoped we'd be doing.

    Arter from a few years back, in league one, would be absolutely mustard. I hope he's still got it.  
  • sam3110 said:
    I thought Arter hated us after we let him go?
    I thought the same. Would love to have him back though.
  • Maccn05 said:
    I do wonder if this weeks signings will instigate a change of formation to Adkins previously preferred 4231… something like

                           Mcgivilray

       Matthews Inniss Famewo Purrington 

                       Arter        Dobson

          DJ                 Lee                Kirk 

                            Stockley 
    That’s how I’d line up but Morgan for Dobson perhaps.
  • Just out of interest for those saying Arter will be an excellent signing. Are you basing this on his time at Bournemouth?
  • Having Arter is a positive move to have depth in the squad. Competition for places is good. Also as Arter is an older player his home club will be less bothered if he doesn't play every week.
     I definitely prefer bringing in experienced players than loaning in young players to develop for other clubs, who contractually have to play a certain number of games.
  • sam3110 said:
    I thought Arter hated us after we let him go?
    Probably hated Pardew (I think), more.
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  • WSS said:
    sam3110 said:
    I thought Arter hated us after we let him go?
    Probably hated Pardew (I think), more.
    Parkinson actually 
  • Maccn05 said:
    I do wonder if this weeks signings will instigate a change of formation to Adkins previously preferred 4231… something like

                           Mcgivilray

       Matthews Inniss Famewo Purrington 

                       Arter        Dobson

          DJ                 Lee                Kirk 

                            Stockley 
    That’s how I’d line up but Morgan for Dobson perhaps.
    I just don’t see stockley as a lone striker - target msn in a 2 yes 
  • edited August 2021
    Maccn05 said:
    I do wonder if this weeks signings will instigate a change of formation to Adkins previously preferred 4231… something like

                           Mcgivilray

       Matthews Inniss Famewo Purrington 

                       Arter        Dobson

          DJ                 Lee                Kirk 

                            Stockley 
    That’s how I’d line up but Morgan for Dobson perhaps.
    This system will never work.  We all hated it when Robinson played it and we had better players then.
  • sam3110 said:
    I thought Arter hated us after we let him go?
    I thought that was the lad from Gillingham?
  • If arter joins and gilbey returns soon, maybe Clare can be the attacking right back
    "Sean, you know how you left Oxford because you didn't want to play right back..."
  • Maccn05 said:
    I do wonder if this weeks signings will instigate a change of formation to Adkins previously preferred 4231… something like

                           Mcgivilray

       Matthews Inniss Famewo Purrington 

                       Arter        Dobson

          DJ                 Lee                Kirk 

                            Stockley 
    Isn't that exactly what we have been playing already? 
  • Redrobo said:
    sam3110 said:
    I thought Arter hated us after we let him go?
    I thought that was the lad from Gillingham?
    people are getting there wires crossed, its Lee from gillingham and Lyle from forest
  • wmcf123 said:
    Maccn05 said:
    I do wonder if this weeks signings will instigate a change of formation to Adkins previously preferred 4231… something like

                           Mcgivilray

       Matthews Inniss Famewo Purrington 

                       Arter        Dobson

          DJ                 Lee                Kirk 

                            Stockley 
    That’s how I’d line up but Morgan for Dobson perhaps.
    This system will never work.  We all hated it when Robinson played it and we had better players then.
    There's not that much difference between 433 and 4231 really

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  • edited August 2021
    Re: Arter's age, Gallen said that we would look to bring in a few experienced players as well. It's not just going to be all young'uns. 

    Also, I would be surprised if his legs are gone at 31 years old. 
  • Redrobo said:
    sam3110 said:
    I thought Arter hated us after we let him go?
    I thought that was the lad from Gillingham?
    That’s Bradley Dack and I believe that is true.
  • Chunes said:
    Re: Arter's age, Gallen said that we would look to bring in a few experienced players as well. It's not just going to be all young'uns. 

    Also, I would be surprised if his legs are gone at 31 years old. 
    Gunter was only 31 when he came in, and is only 5 months older than Arter, and it can be argued that he's declined significantly from his peak

  • Quite a reliable source
  • Chunes said:
    Re: Arter's age, Gallen said that we would look to bring in a few experienced players as well. It's not just going to be all young'uns. 

    Also, I would be surprised if his legs are gone at 31 years old. 
    Gunter was only 31 when he came in, and is only 5 months older than Arter, and it can be argued that he's declined significantly from his peak
    Eventually we should get some luck with a player. This could be it.
  • edited August 2021
    Chunes said:
    Re: Arter's age, Gallen said that we would look to bring in a few experienced players as well. It's not just going to be all young'uns. 

    Also, I would be surprised if his legs are gone at 31 years old. 
    Gunter was only 31 when he came in, and is only 5 months older than Arter, and it can be argued that he's declined significantly from his peak
    I don't think Gunter's legs have gone. He's just been shit. 

    And will Arter be shit just because Gunter has been?

    The real question will be whether he's lost his motivation and is just playing out his final years, or he's gunning to play football again after being frozen out at Forest. I guess we'll find out soon enough. 
  • edited August 2021
    Chunes said:
    Chunes said:
    Re: Arter's age, Gallen said that we would look to bring in a few experienced players as well. It's not just going to be all young'uns. 

    Also, I would be surprised if his legs are gone at 31 years old. 
    Gunter was only 31 when he came in, and is only 5 months older than Arter, and it can be argued that he's declined significantly from his peak
    I don't think Gunter's legs have gone. He's just been shit. 

    And will Arter be shit because Gunter has been?
    What other explanation for a player of Gunter's pedigree being substandard can there be other than physical degradation? He's gained more experience, had more training. Short of getting the yips (which isn't really documented in football aside from in strikers), how could Gunter, once of Spurs, be hapless in League One if his legs haven't gone and he's trying to make up for it and failing? 
  • If we need or go after another CB I’d like Sam Woods who Palace let go, think he is 22 and right sided, good age and suitable replacement for Inniss
  • edited August 2021
    Leuth said:
    Chunes said:
    Chunes said:
    Re: Arter's age, Gallen said that we would look to bring in a few experienced players as well. It's not just going to be all young'uns. 

    Also, I would be surprised if his legs are gone at 31 years old. 
    Gunter was only 31 when he came in, and is only 5 months older than Arter, and it can be argued that he's declined significantly from his peak
    I don't think Gunter's legs have gone. He's just been shit. 

    And will Arter be shit because Gunter has been?
    What other explanation for a player of Gunter's pedigree being substandard can there be other than physical degradation? 
    You can't be serious @leuth

    You're intelligent enough to come up with some other reasons without me helping!
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