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Your England Squad For This Summer (vs Romania page 27)
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Sensible decision to take White, I can't see JWP getting a game ahead of the other midfielders we have already in the squad1
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Ben White has come up on the rails because Ming's is an accident waiting to happen,Maguire is a major doubt for the group stages, Cody is ok but not convinced he is England class, and Stones is well the Quintessential academy taught defender who is instructed to always dribble or play one two around his own area. John Stones is gifted on the ball at times but he does own the Copy write on cock ups from being caught in possession. At City you go and sit on the naughty step if you ever put your laces through a ball in your own area.
Ben White can play as a CB, in a 4 or 3, full back LOL ! Or more importantly play the defensive midfield role if Rice has a knock.
I went for Ward-Prowse as 26 man, but I can understand White getting the nod in the circumstances.
Because of the Covid 16 months we have had, how many of the contenders will be at their peak performance after the packed fixture list ? So maybe we can cover up our CB weaknesses ?
Ps. Ben White is in the small minority of players who get a full England cap when he had never played at any of the levels from Schoolboys up to U21.1 -
I can understand White getting the nod too but hopefully with a view to him being part of a 4-3-3.0
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Ben White impressed in the two games, wouldn't have had him in the 26 but fair play, he came in and took his chance. Versatile and with the concerns over Maguire it makes sense to me. Henderson made his comeback yesterday, there's always a chance he'll break down but despite his lack of action over the last few months, he's clearly fitter than Maguire right now. With Rice, Phillips, Henderson and Bellingham, I don't see the need for JWP if Southgate is convinced Henderson can play his part.0
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JWP gives you set piece options that could be useful from the bench but Southgate can't pick everyone.0
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JWP has excellent set piece delivery but I’d be pretty fucked off if the other 26 can’t take a decent free kick or corner….1
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You are talking about decent or one of the best in the case of JWP. Some would argue he is the best at this aspect and if we are having difficulties in a game, this may be a good option. But so might be something else.0
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ValleyGary said:JWP has excellent set piece delivery but I’d be pretty fucked off if the other 26 can’t take a decent free kick or corner….
Good point Gary, but I would prefer Pickford not to take Corners
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Personally feel Ben White needed to go and Maguire dropped due to fitness. If he cant play 3 games then why take him? JWP instead for me.
Think JWP should feel a bit gutted as he plays consistently well but the CM options are pretty good!
Henderson looked okay in 45 minutes fitness wise and I am sure he will contribute...just not taking the penalties!!
Need a higher tempo though going forward, really put teams under pressure and force the mistakes.
Think Southgates contract is up end of the tournament and personally I would like to see him leave at the end, regardless of the outcome.
Hes came in and done well developing younger players but it needs someone to come in now and really push them on.0 -
I don't know who Ben White is, but he's got to be better than (disaster waiting to happen) Maguire!0
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If he wins it that would be a bit harsh.king addick said:Personally feel Ben White needed to go and Maguire dropped due to fitness. If he cant play 3 games then why take him? JWP instead for me.
Think JWP should feel a bit gutted as he plays consistently well but the CM options are pretty good!
Henderson looked okay in 45 minutes fitness wise and I am sure he will contribute...just not taking the penalties!!
Need a higher tempo though going forward, really put teams under pressure and force the mistakes.
Think Southgates contract is up end of the tournament and personally I would like to see him leave at the end, regardless of the outcome.
Hes came in and done well developing younger players but it needs someone to come in now and really push them on.0 -
Elthamaddick said:I don't know who Ben White is, but he's got to be better than (disaster waiting to happen) Maguire!
He scored a volley against us from the edge of the box for Leeds as we got relegated from the championship.1 -
I'm not say either way if it would be a good appointment but I think the reason Howe hasnt gone anywhere yet is he is inline for the job should Southgate leave0
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the only way 'yes man' Southgate is leaving the Eng job is if we fail to make it out the group0
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Hundred percent. Especially as we are about 18 months of Qatar 2022. The fact we will come against Portugal, France or Germany in last 16 probably saves from not reaching semi final etc. Southgate is as safe as any England manager in history.Elthamaddick said:the only way 'yes man' Southgate is leaving the Eng job is if we fail to make it out the group2 -
I'm not sure in today's international game what a yes man manager is. Yes, Brian Clough would have told the FA what to do, but the current England manager's job is about picking the best team to win a tournament. Who does he say yes or indeed no to?0
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I don’t rate Mings, he’s a ball watcher.0
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Apropos of nothing much but:
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Fair play to Ben White, he should be an inspiration to a number of young players out there.
Released by Southampton at the age of 16. Then spent seasons on loan in league two, league one and the championship.5 -
Croatia only lost 1-0 to Belgium yesterday so it is likely to be a tough game.0
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It might depend on my mood on the day and if someone like Southgate is talking such nonsense. He should concentrate on the football.AddicksAddict said:
@jimmymelrose Are you including yourself in that "we"?jimmymelrose said:
They are adults. They don't have to take the knee. Southgate's talking as if people are booing children.SELR_addicks said:
Also, we could equally argue that we're more determined to boo.
I agree that black lives matter but I am against the movement called 'Black Lives Matter.'
Booing only gives fuel to those who accuse those against it as being racist, so I would probably turn my back to the pitch.1 -
Case for that but this team is full of very talented young players who need taking to that next level. As I said, he has done well blooding them and has done a good job overall.MuttleyCAFC said:
If he wins it that would be a bit harsh.king addick said:Personally feel Ben White needed to go and Maguire dropped due to fitness. If he cant play 3 games then why take him? JWP instead for me.
Think JWP should feel a bit gutted as he plays consistently well but the CM options are pretty good!
Henderson looked okay in 45 minutes fitness wise and I am sure he will contribute...just not taking the penalties!!
Need a higher tempo though going forward, really put teams under pressure and force the mistakes.
Think Southgates contract is up end of the tournament and personally I would like to see him leave at the end, regardless of the outcome.
Hes came in and done well developing younger players but it needs someone to come in now and really push them on.
A more attack minded manager wouldnt go amiss to make use of the talent at our disposal.0 -
Even so, you can't sack him if he wins it.
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In all fairness, I didnt say he should be sacked only that he doesn't renew his deal to make potentially make way for someone to kick on with the team. Think he hinted from the off he may not renew his deal.0
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Less than a year ago. His rise to the top has been very impressive, really helped by the loan systemJac_52 said:Elthamaddick said:I don't know who Ben White is, but he's got to be better than (disaster waiting to happen) Maguire!
He scored a volley against us from the edge of the box for Leeds as we got relegated from the championship.
2017/18 - on loan in L2 with Newport
2018/19 - on loan in L1 with Peterborough
2019/20 - on loan in the Championship with Leeds
2020/21 - PL with Brighton
Summer 21 - England squad for the Euros4 -
Reasons to be hopeful for the Euros:
In Harry Kane we have a genuinely world class striker, one of the best players in the world is an England striker, thats pretty exciting.
Grealish is a joy to watch, if he plays regularly (surely he has to) then he’ll have no problem playing the top international sides, with a potentially tricky last 16 game he could be the difference. Foden/Mount/Bellingham are also exciting excellent players and in coming into this in good form.
Lots of talk about too many RBs etc, but its good to have lots of options at full back. We also don’t have to listen to the tedious Trent debate on social media now he’s injured.
Reasons to be not so hopeful:
CB looks very very dodgy, from the outside it doesn’t look like Maguire is going to be properly fit, a half fit Maguire starting a knockout game could end in tears. No problem with Stones, but Mings looks a liability, Coady isn’t interentional standard, and Ben White didn’t even make the cut of the first squad. I would go White myself, but its a slight risk. Pickford’s done well for England but he makes me so nervous and hasn’t had a great season at Everton.
Last 16 draw is likely to be one of France, Portugal and Germany. Against all those teams its pretty close to a 50/50 in my opinion. I also suspect Southgate might persist with Sterling and Rashford as well which would be a shame.
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I'd be starting White to be honest, I've wanted him called up since his loan spell with Leeds. Excellent player and should start vs Croatia. (I don't expect him to for one minute)2
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I wonder if any of the players have been practising their crying, for when we get knocked out on pens.
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I think he could - Maguire won't be fit, Mings was poor last night and Coady is better in a 3.covered_end_junior said:I'd be starting White to be honest, I've wanted him called up since his loan spell with Leeds. Excellent player and should start vs Croatia. (I don't expect him to for one minute)
If we play 4 at the back, White & Stones is probably the best choice.
We'll probably play Mings though.1
