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Bowyer progress at Birmingham
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You are however allowed to have a frantic wank thinking about some of the muckier stuff you both got up to from time to timesoapboxsam said:Your Ex has moved on.
Best not to think who she is having sex with now. Just remember the good times and when you were both on the same page with similar ambitions.
Don't do the phone call to hear her voice.
Don't be bitter and twisted that she is now with a guy who is more successful than you at the moment.
Don't spoil the two good years you had together because the last 12 months have been a total mess.
Relationships fail because of life situation and pressures and you become out of kilter.
Don't become a stalker, no revenge porn,
Get on with your own life and move on.
Nothing to see here.
Last night was the first evening shamefully hunched up over a blurred fist feeling very dirty afterwards12 -
you've just ruined my savaloy and chips.Carter said:
You are however allowed to have a frantic wank thinking about some of the muckier stuff you both got up to from time to timesoapboxsam said:Your Ex has moved on.
Best not to think who she is having sex with now. Just remember the good times and when you were both on the same page with similar ambitions.
Don't do the phone call to hear her voice.
Don't be bitter and twisted that she is now with a guy who is more successful than you at the moment.
Don't spoil the two good years you had together because the last 12 months have been a total mess.
Relationships fail because of life situation and pressures and you become out of kilter.
Don't become a stalker, no revenge porn,
Get on with your own life and move on.
Nothing to see here.
Last night was the first evening shamefully hunched up over a blurred fist feeling very dirty afterwards11 -
We all had a good day out at Wembley when we achieved the promotion thanks to the players and Lee, and we owe a debt of thanks to Lee for sticking with us through the Thin and Thinner times with our fiasco of ownership etc, but, it didn't take him long to jump once one of his favourites came calling,it was always going to be them or Leeds, so good luck to him, just wonder how long we are going to be checking in to see how well or not so well he is doing in his new job.1
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Somebody needs to explain something for me...Bowyer’s being accused of being disloyal by jumping ship by some yet TS was able to appoint a new manager in double quick time because he’d been looking at candidates for the past 6-8 weeks. That almost sounds like there was a mutual understanding that things were not working out and the two of them may have been in cahoots in the timing of LB going7
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I feel that the true reasons why he left may never be known, and there was probably a "discussion" between Thomas and Lee a few weeks ago, and a mutual agreement that something had to change was on, hence the line from Thomas of his looking at available options for a few weeks, and the dour lack of interest from Lee in post match interviews, which only seemed to change a couple of matches ago when things regarding Birmingham were a bit clearer to everybody involved.letthegoodtimesroll said:Somebody needs to explain something for me...Bowyer’s being accused of being disloyal by jumping ship by some yet TS was able to appoint a new manager in double quick time because he’d been looking at candidates for the past 6-8 weeks. That almost sounds like there was a mutual understanding that things were not working out and the two of them may have been in cahoots in the timing of LB going
So, cahoots? nothing underhand, but i think all parties involved knew the sittuation, and an agreed time plan for Adkins, Lee, and Thomas to come to an agreed date of change.3 -
Given the rapid turnover of managers these days, I would assume that most club owners have planned replacements much of the time.
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I agree that clubs "have their ears to the ground" regarding the state of play in the world of managers turnover, but planned replacements may be taking it a tad too far, unless the need was there in the first place surely.thai malaysia addick said:Given the rapid turnover of managers these days, I would assume that most club owners have planned replacements much of the time.1 -
Agree. I really meant potential replacements.eastterrace6168 said:
I agree that clubs "have their ears to the ground" regarding the state of play in the world of managers turnover, but planned replacements may be taking it a tad too far, unless the need was there in the first place surely.thai malaysia addick said:Given the rapid turnover of managers these days, I would assume that most club owners have planned replacements much of the time.2 -
Failing to prepare is preparing to fail as the saying goes. I'm sure that if things had worked out differently, Sandgaard would have honoured his word and given Bowyer at least a chance to make the play offs.
On the other hand, if either of them didn't both have a feeling that things might not get to that point I would be frankly astonished:
1. Bowyer may not have been actively seeking another job but his comments about "improving players" and his comments expressing sometimes questionable self-belief in his abilities were quite clearly at least in part with a mind on increasing his employability. (And he's in his rights to try it, even if you don't agree with those comments.)
2. Sandgaard is an experienced businessman and executive and knows full well that you have to anticipate the possibility of people leaving the business and needing replacement. I doubt he was actively looking for a replacement but for him to have not at least been monitoring potential replacements would be borderline negligence/incompetence on his part.1 -
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Interesting that he is looking for a another assistant. I always felt we were one coach short and still are!1
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Ok so that makes the Adkins comments about Jackie maybe leaving at a later date clearer. He’s hoping he’ll go there in the summer.0
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3-0 loss - new manager bounce?3
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Having watched our rubbish, even that doesn't cheer me up.IAgree said:3-0 loss - new manager bounce?0 -
Their match against Rotherham is going to be massive0
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Rotherham and Wednesday both won today to keep things interesting...
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In fairness it's no great embarrassment losing to Watford, they're absolutely flying. Their record is 12 wins, 2 draws and 2 defeats since early January and they're looking pretty likely to go up with Norwich.IAgree said:3-0 loss - new manager bounce?
Rotherham's home games with Wycombe and obviously Birmingham will be huge in their battle to stay up. 4 games in hand on Birmingham and only 3 points behind them.5 -
Birmingham fans flew a banner over the ground during the game today.
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They have a banner with dong in it. Dong!
*sniggers like a schoolboy*12 -
Had to chuckle when driving and listening to the radio, they cut to Vicarage Rd..."and a triple substitution"21
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I have to say that when I heard Bowyer was taking the Brum job, it was very much a case of 'out of the frying pan and into the fire'.
Very unpopular owner there, and similar to Sunderland there seems to be a long-term malaise deep within the club.0 -
This is a scandulous comparison. Taylor was under contract and wouldn't play but wanted to sit on his backside. Bowyer made a decision, which TS obviously agreed with, that the time had come for both parties to move on. Bowyer had had been brilliant for Charlton in the last 3 years but maybe the time had come. I really cannot understand this animosity towards Bowyer. WE have had numerous managers since Curbs and Bowyer is streets ahead of any of them except Powell. Why are some people so pathetic.Addick Addict said:Didn't honour his contract and left us when, by his admission, we still had a chance of making the Play Offs and possible promotion to the Championship.
Swap "promotion to the Championship" for "relegation from the Championship" and it could be Taylor. Both have done it for money and to further their career. Taylor was as much a part of our promotion with his 22 goals as Bowyer was.
I'm not particularly bothered because it is the way of the world nowadays and I think, like many do, that Bowyer had lost his way. But Bowyer is being slightly hypocritical in leaving at this very time given how he made such a big thing about Taylor's refusal to honour his contract. Especially as Taylor left with 3 games to go and we still had 11 matches to the end of this season.
Bowyer chose to save Birmingham rather than get us promoted. Birmingham turned his head. The very thing that he accused QPR of doing to Bonne.15 -
Couldn't agree more mate, sometimes in football (and many other businesses), there just comes a natural time to part ways.
Things had gone a bit stale, he had an opportunity to move on, and it saved the club the embarrassment of having to fire a well liked manager in the summer.
I wish Lee Bowyer nothing but the best, he has a lot of credit in the bank with me, even with the shit-show that has been 2020/21 season.7 -
Just Seen Bowyer's post match press conference.
The first thing he said was
'I didn't think they were much better than us'
They lost 3-0. I had to chuckle18 -
Agree, they were 3 goals better than them, will he ever see a side better than "him", same when he was here, seemed to be watching a different game to most of us.Gravesend_Addick said:Just Seen Bowyer's post match press conference.
The first thing he said was
'I didn't think they were much better than us'
They lost 3-0. I had to chuckle0 -
'we moved the ball well at times'0
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Damned if he does really. Bowyer gets grief for being too negative and too positive. I never really minded when he said stuff like that because he's the manager and he wants the players to feel like they can beat any other team. Birmingham are in a relegation fight, it's not going to help much to say 'yep, completely outplayed, they're just too good for us' because they will need to beat teams like that to stay up. For us he started to negate the effects of that a bit when his public criticisms of individuals got a bit too harsh towards the end, but sometimes I think fans get far too tied up in post-match press conferences. They're pointless anyway, but they're not really there for actual analysis, they're propaganda opportunities. Pundits and journalists are there to pick apart performances, the manager will do that when he gets the players back in after the match in private.eastterrace6168 said:
Agree, they were 3 goals better than them, will he ever see a side better than "him", same when he was here, seemed to be watching a different game to most of us.Gravesend_Addick said:Just Seen Bowyer's post match press conference.
The first thing he said was
'I didn't think they were much better than us'
They lost 3-0. I had to chuckle
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Is that a cruyff quote?FishCostaFortune said:'we moved the ball well at times'
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I really think he may have bitten off more than he can chew there. That club is in disarray right now and their owner is bonkers. The players are all over the place and apparently a few took issue with Karanka because he publicly slated them.....
Couple that with the teams around him having games in hand and better goal differences I think he has a battle on his hands6 -
Just because it might have suited TS for LB to go (especially if the bullying rumours are true) that still means that LB chose to finish the season with us early.redman said:
This is a scandulous comparison. Taylor was under contract and wouldn't play but wanted to sit on his backside. Bowyer made a decision, which TS obviously agreed with, that the time had come for both parties to move on. Bowyer had had been brilliant for Charlton in the last 3 years but maybe the time had come. I really cannot understand this animosity towards Bowyer. WE have had numerous managers since Curbs and Bowyer is streets ahead of any of them except Powell. Why are some people so pathetic.Addick Addict said:Didn't honour his contract and left us when, by his admission, we still had a chance of making the Play Offs and possible promotion to the Championship.
Swap "promotion to the Championship" for "relegation from the Championship" and it could be Taylor. Both have done it for money and to further their career. Taylor was as much a part of our promotion with his 22 goals as Bowyer was.
I'm not particularly bothered because it is the way of the world nowadays and I think, like many do, that Bowyer had lost his way. But Bowyer is being slightly hypocritical in leaving at this very time given how he made such a big thing about Taylor's refusal to honour his contract. Especially as Taylor left with 3 games to go and we still had 11 matches to the end of this season.
Bowyer chose to save Birmingham rather than get us promoted. Birmingham turned his head. The very thing that he accused QPR of doing to Bonne.
Why do you think Bowyer left? Because everything was going so well in the dressing room? Because he was getting the most out of all of the players? Because it was, as he constantly sought to explain, everyone, including the supporters fault in not being vocal enough, else's fault that we were losing so many games at home? Funny how the results carried on when the fans disappeared again!
You want to do "scandalous" and "pathetic" Try that for starters.
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