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  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,145
    wmcf123 said:
    wmcf123 said:
    Come on, Reading 
    why?
    I was always “Bowyer in”.  Now I want this to go wrong for him. 
    Understandable.... you and many others showed loyalty to him when the going got tough on the footy pitch and well he just done what’s best for him , which is also understandable from his point of view .

  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    wmcf123 said:
    wmcf123 said:
    Come on, Reading 
    why?
    I was always “Bowyer in”.  Now I want this to go wrong for him. 
    Understandable.... you and many others showed loyalty to him when the going got tough on the footy pitch and well he just done what’s best for him , which is also understandable from his point of view .

    Absolutely.  Following football isn’t a rational exercise! 
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,139
    Fancy Birmingham to get something at Watford now.
  • TellyTubby
    TellyTubby Posts: 3,550
    I can't wish him well really after watching that game...he was far more animated in that game than he was for the last 3 months at Charlton.  I think we have been had over with a the bullshit he spouted after every game. He seems happier there than he ever seemed here yet they have had 8 managers now in 4 and a half years .
    I would dearly love to know what went on this last few months in our dressing room to be honest.
    My feeling is that Bow has month on month been crushed by the pressure at Charlton. He’s been involved right back to Roland and everything since. Deterioration in results and performances. It all must take a toll. I think getting a fresh start has taken an enormous weight off his shoulders. I don’t wish him anything but good luck.
    But we support Charlton not Bowyer pal.

    I don't wish Bow ill but I agree somewhat in @addick1956 comments
    Think it’s pretty obvious he was desperately unhappy. Different bloke altogether from the first Lee Bowyer we saw when he took over from Robinson. I don’t blame him one bit for wanting out and starting afresh. 

    Pal ?????? Wtf
    Think it's pretty obvious I'm trying to lighthearten the comment and not look for an argument.
    Mate
    But we support Charlton not Bowyer pal.

    Yeah not aggressive at all really.
    How’s that aggressive?😂
    You typed it in a Glaswegian accent. 
  • Not playing out from the back for birmingham, seen as though his insistence on it last year cost us relegation, he may have learnt
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,031
    paulfox said:
    I wish Bowyer no bad karma, but actually I couldn’t care less what he does now. He no longer has any influence good or bad on Charlton, so happy to move on. Thanks for the good memories, but no thanks for the shit ones!!. As long as Charlton do well that’s all that matters.
    And every time this thread bubbles to the top of the first page there will be someone coming along to say exactly that!
  • tangoflash
    tangoflash Posts: 10,782

  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Your Ex has moved on.

    Best not to think who she is having sex with now. Just remember the good times and when you were both on the same page with similar ambitions.

    Don't do the phone call to hear her voice.
    Don't be bitter and twisted that she is now with a guy who is more successful than you at the moment.

    Don't spoil the two good years you had together because the last 12 months have been a total mess.

    Relationships fail because of life situation and pressures and you become out of kilter. 

    Don't become a stalker, no revenge porn,
    Get on with your own life and move on.

    Nothing to see here.


  • Arsenetatters
    Arsenetatters Posts: 5,970
    Your Ex has moved on.

    Best not to think who she is having sex with now. Just remember the good times and when you were both on the same page with similar ambitions.

    Don't do the phone call to hear her voice.
    Don't be bitter and twisted that she is now with a guy who is more successful than you at the moment.

    Don't spoil the two good years you had together because the last 12 months have been a total mess.

    Relationships fail because of life situation and pressures and you become out of kilter. 

    Don't become a stalker, no revenge porn,
    Get on with your own life and move on.

    Nothing to see here.


    You both realised it wouldn't last forever. You keep in contact because of the kids.
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  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Your Ex has moved on.

    Best not to think who she is having sex with now. Just remember the good times and when you were both on the same page with similar ambitions.

    Don't do the phone call to hear her voice.
    Don't be bitter and twisted that she is now with a guy who is more successful than you at the moment.

    Don't spoil the two good years you had together because the last 12 months have been a total mess.

    Relationships fail because of life situation and pressures and you become out of kilter. 

    Don't become a stalker, no revenge porn,
    Get on with your own life and move on.

    Nothing to see here.


    You both realised it wouldn't last forever. You keep in contact because of the kids.

    Yes that is true in most cases.

    The only problem in a Charlton analogy is we have sold the kids  :o
  • 2121
    2121 Posts: 1,185
    Left us twice! Couldn't care what happens now. 

  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    I am glad Birmingham snatched a win, and I hope Lee Bowyer keeps them up.
    However they are not an especially significant feature of my football consciousness, memories yes, but the here and now...not especially.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,758
    Didn't honour his contract and left us when, by his admission, we still had a chance of making the Play Offs and possible promotion to the Championship. 

    Swap "promotion to the Championship" for "relegation from the Championship" and it could be Taylor. Both have done it for money and to further their career. Taylor was as much a part of our promotion with his 22 goals as Bowyer was.

    I'm not particularly bothered because it is the way of the world nowadays and I think, like many do, that Bowyer had lost his way. But Bowyer is being slightly hypocritical in leaving at this very time given how he made such a big thing about Taylor's refusal to honour his contract. Especially as Taylor left with 3 games to go and we still had 11 matches to the end of this season.

    Bowyer chose to save Birmingham rather than get us promoted. Birmingham turned his head. The very thing that he accused QPR of doing to Bonne. 

  • Didn't honour his contract and left us when, by his admission, we still had a chance of making the Play Offs and possible promotion to the Championship. 

    Swap "promotion to the Championship" for "relegation from the Championship" and it could be Taylor. Both have done it for money and to further their career. Taylor was as much a part of our promotion with his 22 goals as Bowyer was.

    I'm not particularly bothered because it is the way of the world nowadays and I think, like many do, that Bowyer had lost his way. But Bowyer is being slightly hypocritical in leaving at this very time given how he made such a big thing about Taylor's refusal to honour his contract. Especially as Taylor left with 3 games to go and we still had 11 matches to the end of this season.

    Bowyer chose to save Birmingham rather than get us promoted. Birmingham turned his head. The very thing that he accused QPR of doing to Bonne. 

    The one difference is Sandgaard could have rejected Bowyer's resignation in which case Bowyer would have stayed at the club and would have gotten on with things - Taylor on the other hand did what he wanted to do and damn everyone else...
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,758
    Didn't honour his contract and left us when, by his admission, we still had a chance of making the Play Offs and possible promotion to the Championship. 

    Swap "promotion to the Championship" for "relegation from the Championship" and it could be Taylor. Both have done it for money and to further their career. Taylor was as much a part of our promotion with his 22 goals as Bowyer was.

    I'm not particularly bothered because it is the way of the world nowadays and I think, like many do, that Bowyer had lost his way. But Bowyer is being slightly hypocritical in leaving at this very time given how he made such a big thing about Taylor's refusal to honour his contract. Especially as Taylor left with 3 games to go and we still had 11 matches to the end of this season.

    Bowyer chose to save Birmingham rather than get us promoted. Birmingham turned his head. The very thing that he accused QPR of doing to Bonne. 

    The one difference is Sandgaard could have rejected Bowyer's resignation in which case Bowyer would have stayed at the club and would have gotten on with things - Taylor on the other hand did what he wanted to do and damn everyone else...
    Indeed Sangaard could have rejected Bowyer's resignation but he would have known that Bowyer wanted to be elsewhere and he wouldn't have performed to the best of his ability. It is very rare for a club to be able to hold onto a Manager who wants to go for that very reason and because the players know that he wants to be away too.
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,698
    Didn't honour his contract and left us when, by his admission, we still had a chance of making the Play Offs and possible promotion to the Championship. 

    Swap "promotion to the Championship" for "relegation from the Championship" and it could be Taylor. Both have done it for money and to further their career. Taylor was as much a part of our promotion with his 22 goals as Bowyer was.

    I'm not particularly bothered because it is the way of the world nowadays and I think, like many do, that Bowyer had lost his way. But Bowyer is being slightly hypocritical in leaving at this very time given how he made such a big thing about Taylor's refusal to honour his contract. Especially as Taylor left with 3 games to go and we still had 11 matches to the end of this season.

    Bowyer chose to save Birmingham rather than get us promoted. Birmingham turned his head. The very thing that he accused QPR of doing to Bonne. 

    The one difference is Sandgaard could have rejected Bowyer's resignation in which case Bowyer would have stayed at the club and would have gotten on with things - Taylor on the other hand did what he wanted to do and damn everyone else...
    Would you keep someone who wanted to leave? His heart wasn't in it anymore and it trickled down to the players imo.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,839
    Fancy Birmingham to get something at Watford now.
    I don't

    Watford are on a great run. They and Norwich are heading straight back to the PL

    Swansea and Brentford are slightly stuttering, so he might have a chance in those games
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,833
    Didn't honour his contract and left us when, by his admission, we still had a chance of making the Play Offs and possible promotion to the Championship. 

    Swap "promotion to the Championship" for "relegation from the Championship" and it could be Taylor. Both have done it for money and to further their career. Taylor was as much a part of our promotion with his 22 goals as Bowyer was.

    I'm not particularly bothered because it is the way of the world nowadays and I think, like many do, that Bowyer had lost his way. But Bowyer is being slightly hypocritical in leaving at this very time given how he made such a big thing about Taylor's refusal to honour his contract. Especially as Taylor left with 3 games to go and we still had 11 matches to the end of this season.

    Bowyer chose to save Birmingham rather than get us promoted. Birmingham turned his head. The very thing that he accused QPR of doing to Bonne. 

    The one difference is Sandgaard could have rejected Bowyer's resignation in which case Bowyer would have stayed at the club and would have gotten on with things - Taylor on the other hand did what he wanted to do and damn everyone else...
    Would you keep someone who wanted to leave? His heart wasn't in it anymore and it trickled down to the players imo.
    Yet you posted this on the Lyle Taylor thread - what is the difference between Taylor and Bowyer ?

    Its simple. 

    Play and honour the contract you signed in good faith or pay back all wages from when the season was suspended. 

    Good player & done well for us with good times but 100%, unequivocally not a legend. Not after 2 season and tbh this shits on his time here. 

    Saying "would you want to stay at Charlton" is irrelevant. You are a PROFESSIONAL. Be just that and see it through then ride off into the sunset with your new fortune
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  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,159
    Genuinely surprised there's people annoyed at Bowyer for 'walking out' on us. Especially as I'm pretty sure some of those people were wanting him out in the first place, or have been saying our season's over for weeks. Things were not going well, there's a chance he could have got us into the Play-Offs but it wasn't that likely, and the best we were hoping for next season was a complete overhaul of the playing staff as relationships clearly weren't that good among him and the players. With that in mind he's left when another job that wants him at a club he used to play for has come along with minimum fuss. Everyone gets to move on, and we don't get a summer of bickering about whether he should still be here, assuming he even would have been. Managers leave all the time or they're sacked. Curbs left.  There were loads on here wanting Bowyer sacked, or saying that he had no honour and dignity because he wouldn't resign and was just holding on for the pay-out on the contract people were retrospectively disgusted that he'd signed on Championship money when in the Championship. He was loyal to us when we needed him to be and then walked at the point when it was probably better for everyone if he moved on. All in all I think things ended pretty well; we had some great times with him in a dark period, he kept the on-field stuff together when the club was at breaking point and then when he ran out of steam, as all managers do almost without exception, he left in a non-fractious way giving us time to bring in a manager with plenty of time to plan for next season. Bowyer is responsible for one of our best seasons in recent years and the best day I've ever had at a football match, I hope he has a good career
  • Starinnaddick
    Starinnaddick Posts: 4,342
    I wonder how you will feel if he starts signing some of our out of contract players. 
  • ProperCharlton
    ProperCharlton Posts: 2,254
    I wonder how you will feel if he starts signing some of our out of contract players. 
    Most of them have been shit all season so I wouldn't be too upset 
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,000
    I wonder how you will feel if he starts signing some of our out of contract players. 
    Astonished - given that apparently not one of them is smart or hard-working enough to understand the genius he bestowed upon them.

    Well except Pratson and maybe Gunter but frankly he's welcome to them.
  • Starinnaddick
    Starinnaddick Posts: 4,342
    Rumours that he is after Chuks and JFC. 
  • AddickUpNorth
    AddickUpNorth Posts: 8,325
    If Chuks was a regular ninety minute man then I’d be gutted but he isn’t so not too fussed if he goes tbh. He can leave JFC alone.
  • Addicktion
    Addicktion Posts: 384
    Rumours that he is after Chuks and JFC. 
    Think you spelt Pratley and Watson wrong 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    edited March 2021
    If Chuks was a regular ninety minute man then I’d be gutted but he isn’t so not too fussed if he goes tbh. He can leave JFC alone.
    JFC is indispensable to this season’s team. Even if he signs a contract to stay, I’d like to think he won’t be indispensable next season.
  • 2121
    2121 Posts: 1,185
    On talksport now 
  • jacob_CAFC
    jacob_CAFC Posts: 2,063
    TS about to come on to chat to Jim