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Are West Ham going down??
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thought our Joe had a poor night1
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England have 2 friendlies the week before City v Liverpool.killerandflash said:
One by one Southgate's England side are getting injured...MuttleyCAFC said:Liverpool miss Henderson. I think he may still be out for the Champions League.
If Liverpool stay unbeaten until then they can equal Arsenal's 49 game run in that game, and it's also the toughest game in their bid to go the season unbeaten.
Wonder how many of players will be mysteriously injured for the friendlies yet fit again the following weekend.2 -
Everyone on here seems desperate for West Ham to go down, personally I want them to stay up.
If they go down we have no chance of getting Cullen.
If they stay up I think we will get him.
So lets get Cullen first and they can go down next season haha6 -
There is no guarantee we'll get Cullen if West Ham stay up, and the joy of seeing West Ham go down would override the pleasure of getting Cullen personally (sad I know).paulie8290 said:Everyone on here seems desperate for West Ham to go down, personally I want them to stay up.
If they go down we have no chance of getting Cullen.
If they stay up I think we will get him.
So lets get Cullen first and they can go down next season haha
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People keep saying it but I don't think it is a given that if they are relegated, they will keep Cullen. It is not inevitable for example that they would pay him more than we would next season. They will be in deep shit, they have already mortgaged their future TV money to pay transfer fees. The salary bill will have to be massively cut. Then of course Cullen's agent would much prefer him to move than to stay there...0
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They wont have to sell him, he already has a years extension signed so he is there player still for next seasonPragueAddick said:People keep saying it but I don't think it is a given that if they are relegated, they will keep Cullen. It is not inevitable for example that they would pay him more than we would next season. They will be in deep shit, they have already mortgaged their future TV money to pay transfer fees. The salary bill will have to be massively cut. Then of course Cullen's agent would much prefer him to move than to stay there...
They can offload better players to recoup money like Haller, Rice, Yarmolenko and keep a player like Cullen who they know has good Championship experience and probably isnt on that much wage wise0 -
I agree, in fact we may have more chance of getting him if they go down as they will want the transfer fee.PragueAddick said:People keep saying it but I don't think it is a given that if they are relegated, they will keep Cullen. It is not inevitable for example that they would pay him more than we would next season. They will be in deep shit, they have already mortgaged their future TV money to pay transfer fees. The salary bill will have to be massively cut. Then of course Cullen's agent would much prefer him to move than to stay there...0 -
Or will they sell Rice for however much they can get for him and want to use Cullen as an experienced Championship Centre Midfielder.stonemuse said:
I agree, in fact we may have more chance of getting him if they go down as they will want the transfer fee.PragueAddick said:People keep saying it but I don't think it is a given that if they are relegated, they will keep Cullen. It is not inevitable for example that they would pay him more than we would next season. They will be in deep shit, they have already mortgaged their future TV money to pay transfer fees. The salary bill will have to be massively cut. Then of course Cullen's agent would much prefer him to move than to stay there...0 -
No guarantee they can shift on players. We've seen before relegated teams struggle to shift high earners simply because other clubs don't want to pay the silly wages those players were on. Not many West Ham players that other PL teams would want, would teams in other countries break their wage structures to sign some of them? Doubtful.paulie8290 said:
They wont have to sell him, he already has a years extension signed so he is there player still for next seasonPragueAddick said:People keep saying it but I don't think it is a given that if they are relegated, they will keep Cullen. It is not inevitable for example that they would pay him more than we would next season. They will be in deep shit, they have already mortgaged their future TV money to pay transfer fees. The salary bill will have to be massively cut. Then of course Cullen's agent would much prefer him to move than to stay there...
They can offload better players to recoup money like Haller, Rice, Yarmolenko and keep a player like Cullen who they know has good Championship experience and probably isnt on that much wage wise
Personally I do think if they went down they'd keep and play Cullen but I don't think any scenario is clear cut.1 -
The 3 I mentioned I think would clearly go.colthe3rd said:
No guarantee they can shift on players. We've seen before relegated teams struggle to shift high earners simply because other clubs don't want to pay the silly wages those players were on. Not many West Ham players that other PL teams would want, would teams in other countries break their wage structures to sign some of them? Doubtful.paulie8290 said:
They wont have to sell him, he already has a years extension signed so he is there player still for next seasonPragueAddick said:People keep saying it but I don't think it is a given that if they are relegated, they will keep Cullen. It is not inevitable for example that they would pay him more than we would next season. They will be in deep shit, they have already mortgaged their future TV money to pay transfer fees. The salary bill will have to be massively cut. Then of course Cullen's agent would much prefer him to move than to stay there...
They can offload better players to recoup money like Haller, Rice, Yarmolenko and keep a player like Cullen who they know has good Championship experience and probably isnt on that much wage wise
Personally I do think if they went down they'd keep and play Cullen but I don't think any scenario is clear cut.
Haller would go back to Germany or Holland somewhere he knows he has scored regularly before.
Rice would go to United or Chelsea
No way Yarmolenko plays in the Championship and he will go anywhere lol, Russia, China, Belgium anywhere that gives him a decent offer0 - Sponsored links:
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Who knows ... but it is not definite that they will keep Cullen.paulie8290 said:
Or will they sell Rice for however much they can get for him and want to use Cullen as an experienced Championship Centre Midfielder.stonemuse said:
I agree, in fact we may have more chance of getting him if they go down as they will want the transfer fee.PragueAddick said:People keep saying it but I don't think it is a given that if they are relegated, they will keep Cullen. It is not inevitable for example that they would pay him more than we would next season. They will be in deep shit, they have already mortgaged their future TV money to pay transfer fees. The salary bill will have to be massively cut. Then of course Cullen's agent would much prefer him to move than to stay there...
Everything is supposition ... I doubt even they have thought about it yet1 -
Agree with Paulie here, there's plenty of players they can shift. The ones already mentioned plus Fornals who was playing regularly for Villarreal, Lanzini may go as well. Felipe Anderson certainly isn't going to play in the Championship.
Why would they not keep Cullen, a player they know will be happy to play at that level? Same for Hugill and Diangana who are both on loan in the championship now.0 -
I disagree.stonemuse said:
Who knows ... but it is not definite that they will keep Cullen.paulie8290 said:
Or will they sell Rice for however much they can get for him and want to use Cullen as an experienced Championship Centre Midfielder.stonemuse said:
I agree, in fact we may have more chance of getting him if they go down as they will want the transfer fee.PragueAddick said:People keep saying it but I don't think it is a given that if they are relegated, they will keep Cullen. It is not inevitable for example that they would pay him more than we would next season. They will be in deep shit, they have already mortgaged their future TV money to pay transfer fees. The salary bill will have to be massively cut. Then of course Cullen's agent would much prefer him to move than to stay there...
Everything is supposition ... I doubt even they have thought about it yet
They have probably made plans for both staying in the prem and getting relegated, most clubs in their position generally do at this stage1 -
"Josh, do you want to help a team that will finish in a worse position for the third consecutive season, or play for a team that's finished higher for four consecutive seasons?"0
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West Ham going down v Cullen staying?.
No question,Bye Bye West Ham.
There will be other players out there as good as Cullen for same price.2 -
Chizz said:"Josh, do you want to help a team that will finish in a worse position for the third consecutive season, or play for a team that's finished higher for four consecutive seasons?"
I'm not sure what your point is here, they have still finished higher than us, and if they got relegated, they would probably be favourites to come straight back up
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West Ham are supported by the tax payer and will rely on us even more when they go down.paulie8290 said:
I disagree.stonemuse said:
Who knows ... but it is not definite that they will keep Cullen.paulie8290 said:
Or will they sell Rice for however much they can get for him and want to use Cullen as an experienced Championship Centre Midfielder.stonemuse said:
I agree, in fact we may have more chance of getting him if they go down as they will want the transfer fee.PragueAddick said:People keep saying it but I don't think it is a given that if they are relegated, they will keep Cullen. It is not inevitable for example that they would pay him more than we would next season. They will be in deep shit, they have already mortgaged their future TV money to pay transfer fees. The salary bill will have to be massively cut. Then of course Cullen's agent would much prefer him to move than to stay there...
Everything is supposition ... I doubt even they have thought about it yet
They have probably made plans for both staying in the prem and getting relegated, most clubs in their position generally do at this stage
Whilst they will have made some contingency plans, I very much doubt it goes down to individual player level as yet.2 -
Nah, the Claret N Blue chumps deserve to slum it for a while.
I try to have a connection, as I have long lost family out Okenden way who support the Irons, but the Olympic Stadium situation, the KY jelly salesmen and Lady Dildo swing it for me. Anyone who employs David Moyes deserves all they get!0 -
I have an unashamed soft spot for West Ham fans (if not the club). They look bang in trouble and their older fans believe the are going down. Huge protest planned this weekend against Gold, Sullivan and Brady. "Bubbles" lays it out here...
http://hammersunited.com/a-message-from-bubbles-2/
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Fuck em.4
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What a load of sanctimonious shite.Cardinal Sin said:I have an unashamed soft spot for West Ham fans (if not the club). They look bang in trouble and their older fans believe the are going down. Huge protest planned this weekend against Gold, Sullivan and Brady. "Bubbles" lays it out here...
http://hammersunited.com/a-message-from-bubbles-2/4 -
What a crock of shit.Cardinal Sin said:I have an unashamed soft spot for West Ham fans (if not the club). They look bang in trouble and their older fans believe the are going down. Huge protest planned this weekend against Gold, Sullivan and Brady. "Bubbles" lays it out here...
http://hammersunited.com/a-message-from-bubbles-2/0 -
Hopefully the tax payers will will get their stadium back when, “the never in the history of football protest”, get GSB out.
Maybe they could help Orient out by paying rent there.
They can’t fall far enough for me.2 -
Plenty of favourites have ended up in a relegation fight instead in there first season down in the championship.jacob_CAFC said:Chizz said:"Josh, do you want to help a team that will finish in a worse position for the third consecutive season, or play for a team that's finished higher for four consecutive seasons?"
I'm not sure what your point is here, they have still finished higher than us, and if they got relegated, they would probably be favourites to come straight back up2 -
Worst episode of Jackanory ever...SE10Addick said:
What a load of sanctimonious shite.Cardinal Sin said:I have an unashamed soft spot for West Ham fans (if not the club). They look bang in trouble and their older fans believe the are going down. Huge protest planned this weekend against Gold, Sullivan and Brady. "Bubbles" lays it out here...
http://hammersunited.com/a-message-from-bubbles-2/1 -
Still don't understand the hatred for them. They offered us a home when we were in trouble and in the main, of all the London cubs I travel from Hampshire with, they are all decent and have a good knowledge of our club and like us to do well.
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Surely Van Dijk is a shoo-in?JohnBoyUK said:
Agreed. I've probably been one of his biggest critics on here but he really has gone up a level this season. He's been very very good. The Dippers lacked that control without him in the middle last night. Wouldn't be at all surprised to see him go on and win PFA Player of the Year tbh with you.MuttleyCAFC said:Liverpool miss Henderson. I think he may still be out for the Champions League.0 -
I remember being in the old away pen at Upton Park in the corner late eighties and our friendly ammers in the next pen showering us with coins .
they hate millwall so I like em for that
loads of wet spam where I live in Essex so I’m happy to see them suffer , although they’re ten times more bearable than the spuds round here .
if we are gonna be genuine promotion contenders (will ESI spend and make that a possibility or continue with the cheaper option that won’t surmount a challenge ) then i reckon West Ham will be a stronger challenge than any of the others but I can’t see ESI paying up so bring em down and everyone can get excited by a day out in Stratford ffs
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Good luck to them. What Gold, Sullivan and Brady have done to them is criminal. The problem is that they have lost their ground, and it was a special ground, but we are an example of how you can recover from that. Unlike the Valley though, Upton Park is now flats. They should have done more in the beginning. We fought to get back to the Valley, they need to understand what they are fighting for.2
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It's always been a confused story, as there were 2 opposite arguments going on at the timeMuttleyCAFC said:Good luck to them. What Gold, Sullivan and Brady have done to them is criminal. The problem is that they have lost their ground, and it was a special ground, but we are an example of how you can recover from that. Unlike the Valley though, Upton Park is now flats. They should have done more in the beginning. We fought to get back to the Valley, they need to understand what they are fighting for.
1) West Ham are jammy/cheating bastards, getting the massive Olympic stadium for peanuts, it's a disgrace that they're getting a great stadium at the taxpayer's expense, it's not fair on the rest of football, especially the other London clubs. Boo to Boris, Karen Brady etc
2) West Ham are selling their iconic ground for a completely inappropriate athletics stadium with terrible views of the pitch, it'll be a disaster for them as a club
All the while "argument 1" was dominating the agenda, most West Ham fans took their eye of the ball as they assumed there were getting a world class facility for peanuts, hence the lack of any protests at the time or indeed any real examination of the proposal.5
