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Bolton, Ebbsfleet now Bury (Clubs in trouble thread)
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How many clubs has this happened to in recent years though? It seems to be much harder than it was in the 80s and 90s when a number of clubs lost their groundsBDL said:I have no doubt that Bury will never play a game again at Gigg Lane and that there will be flats/houses/supermarket on that site in three years.A friend has worked with Dale, knows him wll and said this was always his game plan.Another example of the EFL not passing a fit and proper test themselves.0 -
That was the reason why Bury are in this mess. They were close to going out of business & Steve Dale came in to rescue them. The EFL said at the time that as time was of the essence then they would defer the "fit & proper" test & Steve Dale could send them the paperwork later. Seems like he never did.JaShea99 said:Someone will come and save them. It always happens.
Its no point having rules if you are going to ignore them for expediency. The main ones at fault for all this are the EFL. If they had followed their own rules & regs then Dale wouldnt be in charge now. They might have gone under last year if he hadn't stepped in.....but then again someone else might have stepped in.4 -
Every time I think it won’t happen, it does.JaShea99 said:Someone will come and save them. It always happens.0 -
Roland is our saviour after all!1
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ForeverAddickted said:Listening to that there is only one outcome to this... Bury as a Football club are dead!!
Dead and Buried.
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In that talksport interview, Steve Dale tries to back up his claim that he has paid players by saying to Jim White "i'll get our company secretary Jill Neville to send you proof".................Neville has today since the interview aired, decided to resign.2
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Not doubting your source, but it does seem an aweful lot of money, and hassle, to buy what is in effect a reasonable sized brown field site in an old mill town. There must be dozens of other places you could buy cheaper and with less resistance.BDL said:
No they won't as Steve Dale won't do a dealJaShea99 said:Someone will come and save them. It always happens.
As I understand it there are about £8 million in outstanding loans and unpaid tax bills. If the club go in to receivership he can't stop someone else buying it or any of the assets.
If he is doing what you suggest he isn't doing it very well.0 -
Agree unless he's sold off the ground already.Cafc43v3r said:
Not doubting your source, but it does seem an aweful lot of money, and hassle, to buy what is in effect a reasonable sized brown field site in an old mill town. There must be dozens of other places you could buy cheaper and with less resistance.BDL said:
No they won't as Steve Dale won't do a dealJaShea99 said:Someone will come and save them. It always happens.
As I understand it there are about £8 million in outstanding loans and unpaid tax bills. If the club go in to receivership he can't stop someone else buying it or any of the assets.
If he is doing what you suggest he isn't doing it very well.
He's as bent as a nine Bob note either way.0 -
If that was his MO, he would have to keep the club solvent, sell the ground (to himself) sort out a ground share then develop the ground. Only when all your ducks are in a row would you ditch the football club. Archer did the text book example of this at Brighton.Henry Irving said:
Agree unless he's sold off the ground already.Cafc43v3r said:
Not doubting your source, but it does seem an aweful lot of money, and hassle, to buy what is in effect a reasonable sized brown field site in an old mill town. There must be dozens of other places you could buy cheaper and with less resistance.BDL said:
No they won't as Steve Dale won't do a dealJaShea99 said:Someone will come and save them. It always happens.
As I understand it there are about £8 million in outstanding loans and unpaid tax bills. If the club go in to receivership he can't stop someone else buying it or any of the assets.
If he is doing what you suggest he isn't doing it very well.
He's as bent as a nine Bob note either way.0 - Sponsored links:
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Would have to sell the ground at full value though so wouldn't really be worthwhile. If he sold it undervalue and stuck the club into liquidation the liquidators would simply reverse the ground sale transactionHenry Irving said:
Agree unless he's sold off the ground already.Cafc43v3r said:
Not doubting your source, but it does seem an aweful lot of money, and hassle, to buy what is in effect a reasonable sized brown field site in an old mill town. There must be dozens of other places you could buy cheaper and with less resistance.BDL said:
No they won't as Steve Dale won't do a dealJaShea99 said:Someone will come and save them. It always happens.
As I understand it there are about £8 million in outstanding loans and unpaid tax bills. If the club go in to receivership he can't stop someone else buying it or any of the assets.
If he is doing what you suggest he isn't doing it very well.
He's as bent as a nine Bob note either way.1 -
Getting dicked 5-0 isn't a great way to rescue your club.0
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Dazzler21 said:Getting dicked 5-0 isn't a great way to rescue your club.
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Not really down to the kids on the pitch to save the club.4 -
Wow, was I wrong about my comment re the fans being part of the problem with Bury. I apologize. Was totally wrong. This owner is a real piece of work. This is some of the worst stuff I've ever read about.
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And you were wrong regards your comments about Charlton fans.NapaAddick said:Wow, was I wrong about my comment re the fans being part of the problem with Bury. I apologize. Was totally wrong. This owner is a real piece of work. This is some of the worst stuff I've ever read about.0 -
Perhaps when she wakes up tomorrow she could check her emails and think about Hemed for half an hour.Henry Irving said:6 -
Que?ElfsborgAddick said:
And you were wrong regards your comments about Charlton fans.NapaAddick said:Wow, was I wrong about my comment re the fans being part of the problem with Bury. I apologize. Was totally wrong. This owner is a real piece of work. This is some of the worst stuff I've ever read about.
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Bolton Wanderers have postponed Tuesday's League One match against Doncaster Rovers, amid welfare concerns for the young players in their squad.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49399958
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They've got homework to be doing...clive said:Bolton Wanderers have postponed Tuesday's League One match against Doncaster Rovers, amid welfare concerns for the young players in their squad.
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Obviously i have sympathy for Bolton but i don't think this is very fair on Doncaster, and personally i think the game should just be awarded to them.
You can't play a game and then just because you get thumped 5-0, decide to call off your next one. They weren't calling off games because it was detrimental to the welfare of the young players when they got a draw v Coventry. They clearly can fulfill the fixture with kids, they're just choosing not to.
Now (if they get taken over) the game will be played when they have a bunch of new signings.5 -
I presume this will be a 3 point deduction, like with Boro many years ago
Not that it will matter anyway as they're certainties for relegation0 -
Especially as its not their first midweek game of the season (having played in the League Cup last week)Chris_from_Sidcup said:Obviously i have sympathy for Bolton but i don't think this is very fair on Doncaster, and personally i think the game should just be awarded to them.
You can't play a game and then just because you get thumped 5-0, decide to call off your next one. They weren't calling off games because it was detrimental to the welfare of the young players when they got a draw v Coventry. They clearly can fulfill the fixture with kids, they're just choosing not to.
Now (if they get taken over) the game will be played when they have a bunch of new signings.0 -
From the OS report on our U23s
"Euell’s youngsters will be hoping to continue their unbeaten run of form when they host Bolton Wanderers at The Valley on Tuesday, August 27th (2pm)."
How can they field an U23 team if all their kids are playing for the first team?
A minor point in the scheme of things and it doesn't really harm Charlton, although we might want some of our fringe players or new signings who need games, to play.2 -
That is poor is show and suggests Bolton didn't clear it with EFL either.ForeverAddickted said:
Surely, the EFL would have informed another club of what was going on just as they have kept us uptodate on the Hemed transfer...... Oh, hang on.2 -
As the replies to that tweet sayHenry Irving said:
That is poor is show and suggests Bolton didn't clear it with EFL either.ForeverAddickted said:
Surely, the EFL would have informed another club of what was going on just as they have kept us uptodate on the Hemed transfer...... Oh, hang on.
If Bolton havent communicated with Doncaster then they're surely forfeiting the game?0 -
Was just about to post the same thing @Henry Irving.0
