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Bolton, Ebbsfleet now Bury (Clubs in trouble thread)

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  • Bolton announced signings with their teamsheet haha






    ✍️🏻 Bolton Wanderers are delighted to announce the following signings:

    Harry Brockbank 👉🏻 https://t.co/K3LyfKkX6e
    Josh Earl 👉🏻 https://t.co/MpVyT69grh
    James Weir 👉🏻 https://t.co/SD4SJaiwMn

    Earl is already injured and out for up to 3 months (their striker, Hall, is also out for the same lengths of time). They have suspended ticket sales for this weekends game too
    The decision to suspend ticket sales is nothing to do with the Coventry game being cancelled

    It is a game going ahead
  • edited August 2019
    Bolton announced signings with their teamsheet haha






    ✍️🏻 Bolton Wanderers are delighted to announce the following signings:

    Harry Brockbank 👉🏻 https://t.co/K3LyfKkX6e
    Josh Earl 👉🏻 https://t.co/MpVyT69grh
    James Weir 👉🏻 https://t.co/SD4SJaiwMn

    Earl is already injured and out for up to 3 months (their striker, Hall, is also out for the same lengths of time). They have suspended ticket sales for this weekends game too
    The decision to suspend ticket sales is nothing to do with the Coventry game being cancelled

    It is a game going ahead
    Yeah - it is a strange decision, supposed to be an announcement today about it. Didn't realise that season tickets hadn't been put on sale, although that does make sense
  • Sad to hear some Bury fans have stepped up discussions on a phoenix club.

    Yes, they spent beyond their means to secure promotion last season (part blame there for both the ownership and the EFL) but the biggest victims are the only people without blame. The fans.
    Do you not think they were tickled pick when the owner"spent beyond their means" to aim for promotion? Fans moan all the time about not enough spending. I feel bad for them but don't think they are "without blame."
    you really are utterly clueless aren't you.
  • Sad to hear some Bury fans have stepped up discussions on a phoenix club.

    Yes, they spent beyond their means to secure promotion last season (part blame there for both the ownership and the EFL) but the biggest victims are the only people without blame. The fans.
    Do you not think they were tickled pick when the owner"spent beyond their means" to aim for promotion? Fans moan all the time about not enough spending. I feel bad for them but don't think they are "without blame."
    I had this same chat with some kid... the trouble is fans can moan about not spending but its down to the owners to spend within their means

    Most arent going to care about the accounts and if they see Gareth Bale being signed arent going to worry about where the money is coming from and will presume they can be afforded
  • Sad to hear some Bury fans have stepped up discussions on a phoenix club.

    Yes, they spent beyond their means to secure promotion last season (part blame there for both the ownership and the EFL) but the biggest victims are the only people without blame. The fans.
    Do you not think they were tickled pick when the owner"spent beyond their means" to aim for promotion? Fans moan all the time about not enough spending. I feel bad for them but don't think they are "without blame."
    I had this same chat with some kid... the trouble is fans can moan about not spending but its down to the owners to spend within their means

    Most arent going to care about the accounts and if they see Gareth Bale being signed arent going to worry about where the money is coming from and will presume they can be afforded
    The thing is some people can be 'rich' and buy into a club and support the club financially from their own wealth, i.e. Roman Abramovich or the Sheikhs at City, Jack Walker etc. whereas other less scrupulous owners will load the debt onto the club or treat it as a loan.

    It's not always clear if you're a fan how that will transpire as we are generally in the dark with these matters
  • Bury's next game has been cancelled

    Now have 14-days to avoid being withdrawn from the League
  • Bury;s game against Sheff Wed in the League cup next Tuesday has been postponed & Bury have until 23rd August to satisfy the EFL over insolvency, otherwise they will be suspended from the League altogether.


    I read that as they have 2 weeks tomorrow to get everything done otherwise they are out. Clock is well & truly ticking.

  • edited August 2019
    Bolton Wanderers takeover has been suspended!!

    Laurence Bassini has managed to get a court order to suspend the latest takeover

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49286229

    Wonder if this means we'll start to see their games being postponed
  • Oztumer is stuck now.

    Magennis got out in time.
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  • Oztumer is stuck now.

    Magennis got out in time.
    Unless he was our third posssible
  • When (Oz "it's not a" Tumer) was not paid, why did he not just.... leave? I doubt anyone could have stopped him. Doesn't not paying someone for 3 months end their contract?
  • When (Oz "it's not a" Tumer) was not paid, why did he not just.... leave? I doubt anyone could have stopped him. Doesn't not paying someone for 3 months end their contract?
    I suspect because walking out would've meant losing any rights to the 5 months wages he's owed. Let's not forget he was playing for Dulwich just 5 years ago so can probably not afford to just give up so much money.

    Magennis on the other hand has been a pro for 10 years now so was likely in a better position to walk away.
  • When (Oz "it's not a" Tumer) was not paid, why did he not just.... leave? I doubt anyone could have stopped him. Doesn't not paying someone for 3 months end their contract?
    I suspect because walking out would've meant losing any rights to the 5 months wages he's owed. Let's not forget he was playing for Dulwich just 5 years ago so can probably not afford to just give up so much money.
    Thanks, makes sense.
  • you can get around 1/2 on Coventry to beat Bolton

    May as well lump on
  • When (Oz "it's not a" Tumer) was not paid, why did he not just.... leave? I doubt anyone could have stopped him. Doesn't not paying someone for 3 months end their contract?
    I suspect because walking out would've meant losing any rights to the 5 months wages he's owed. Let's not forget he was playing for Dulwich just 5 years ago so can probably not afford to just give up so much money.

    Magennis on the other hand has been a pro for 10 years now so was likely in a better position to walk away.
    Surely they still owe him the money even if he leaves? Or does he no longer count as a “football creditor” and get preference on any pay out in the event of administration if he leaves? 
  • Interesting transfer deal thats just been completed

    Leicester have signed someone from Bury for £100k, wonder if that'll help keep them alive
  • Interesting transfer deal thats just been completed

    Leicester have signed someone from Bury for £100k, wonder if that'll help keep them alive
    knowing Bury they'll probably go on a big spending spree
  • Oztumer and other senior Bolton players refused to play yesterday over unpaid wages.
  • Fantastic result for Bolton drawing 0-0 with Coventry and only using the youngsters. 
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  • mart77 said:
    Fantastic result for Bolton drawing 0-0 with Coventry and only using the youngsters. 
    And cov having 3 goals disallowed
  • mart77 said:
    Fantastic result for Bolton drawing 0-0 with Coventry and only using the youngsters. 
    And cov having 3 goals disallowed
    Should learn to stay onside...
  • https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49308911

    Good BBC article on Bolton. I guess it would be a risk buying one if the club folded, but season tickets haven't even gone on sale...
  • Sad to hear some Bury fans have stepped up discussions on a phoenix club.

    Yes, they spent beyond their means to secure promotion last season (part blame there for both the ownership and the EFL) but the biggest victims are the only people without blame. The fans.
    Do you not think they were tickled pick when the owner"spent beyond their means" to aim for promotion? Fans moan all the time about not enough spending. I feel bad for them but don't think they are "without blame."
    how are the supporters not "without blame"?
  • Is the bury takeover by someone fit and proper?
  • Sad to hear some Bury fans have stepped up discussions on a phoenix club.

    Yes, they spent beyond their means to secure promotion last season (part blame there for both the ownership and the EFL) but the biggest victims are the only people without blame. The fans.
    Do you not think they were tickled pick when the owner"spent beyond their means" to aim for promotion? Fans moan all the time about not enough spending. I feel bad for them but don't think they are "without blame."
    I had this same chat with some kid... the trouble is fans can moan about not spending but its down to the owners to spend within their means

    Most arent going to care about the accounts and if they see Gareth Bale being signed arent going to worry about where the money is coming from and will presume they can be afforded
    The thing is some people can be 'rich' and buy into a club and support the club financially from their own wealth, i.e. Roman Abramovich or the Sheikhs at City, Jack Walker etc. whereas other less scrupulous owners will load the debt onto the club or treat it as a loan.

    It's not always clear if you're a fan how that will transpire as we are generally in the dark with these matters

    Sad to hear some Bury fans have stepped up discussions on a phoenix club.

    Yes, they spent beyond their means to secure promotion last season (part blame there for both the ownership and the EFL) but the biggest victims are the only people without blame. The fans.
    Do you not think they were tickled pick when the owner"spent beyond their means" to aim for promotion? Fans moan all the time about not enough spending. I feel bad for them but don't think they are "without blame."
    I had this same chat with some kid... the trouble is fans can moan about not spending but its down to the owners to spend within their means

    Most arent going to care about the accounts and if they see Gareth Bale being signed arent going to worry about where the money is coming from and will presume they can be afforded
    The thing is some people can be 'rich' and buy into a club and support the club financially from their own wealth, i.e. Roman Abramovich or the Sheikhs at City, Jack Walker etc. whereas other less scrupulous owners will load the debt onto the club or treat it as a loan.

    It's not always clear if you're a fan how that will transpire as we are generally in the dark with these matters
    Ha ha made me laugh. Other less scrupulous owners than the City Sheikh and Abramovich. 
  • Sad to hear some Bury fans have stepped up discussions on a phoenix club.

    Yes, they spent beyond their means to secure promotion last season (part blame there for both the ownership and the EFL) but the biggest victims are the only people without blame. The fans.
    Do you not think they were tickled pick when the owner"spent beyond their means" to aim for promotion? Fans moan all the time about not enough spending. I feel bad for them but don't think they are "without blame."
    how are the supporters not "without blame"?
    Of course they are blameless. They hardly spent millions and the supporters don't have access to the accounts and are not involved in the day to day financial running of the club. They are completely blameless and it is ridiculous for Napa to suggest otherwise. 
    This is what gets me about Newcastle. Ashley has always said whatever money the club makes, they can spend. He should be applauded not attacked by the fans. 
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