The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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I think so. I looked on their website before posting, but couldn't see it.RedChaser said:
Wasn't it in their prospectus or am I dreaming that?Covered End said:
I can't remember it was said so long ago.JamesSeed said:
How did you know that?Covered End said:
Which we already knew.JamesSeed said:Red7Oak said:
Apologies I didnt know you personally knew GM I thought your insight / opinion came from one of the lackey's who worked for him. Not withstanding that, in my opinion, and bar telling people snippets of what they want to hear, SomeoSomeone would have to know someone extremely well to share detailed information about their business plans especially parts that they might not want out in the public domain!JamesSeed said:
?flyingkiwiDK said:Aussies deal has collapsed.
The difference here being that no one knew them personally did they? (As far as I know).Red7Oak said:
I think anyone has the potential to give us 'proper' ownership but let's face initially it at the time of takeover we thought the same about RD and the spivs!JamesSeed said:
Fair play if you turned out to be right all along. As I’ve said I’ve only had very little info since the beer meeting, and none of that was financial.nth london addick said:
seems to be what the SLP are indicating @JamesSeed i think theres been so much dragging of heels that people interested have said i am offJamesSeed said:
Ah, so this is the famous ‘waving of the willy’ that I’ve heard so much about ;-)nth london addick said:
Ahem “Aussies ain’t got the money”Scoham said:Click on it to read it. Basically says Keith Harris has been trying to find new investors so the takeover can go through, and that it’s unclear if that’s happened. If it hasn’t happened it says it’s in danger of collapsing.
Drops mic and walks away could’ve closed the thread in October
Of course we still don’t know definitively what’s going on, but I guess we’ll hear soon.
If they’ve failed it’s a damned shame, because I think they had the potential to give us ‘proper’ ownership for the first time in years.
I wouldn’t have said those things if I didn’t know GM, who I know for a fact isn’t/wasn’t trying to make a land grab, at least.
They didn’t share any details about their business plans, other than that it was a five year plan.
The 5 year plan was to get the under performing club into The Premier League and then sell up.
But I didn't imagine it, so you're probably right.0 -
What has a new stadium 2 miles from The Valley got to do with Charlton Lane etc ?harveys_gardener said:
Utter bollocks. This would need a profit between Peninsula and Valley. Apart from the steep side issues and overlooked by flats, access only via Charlton Lane wouldn't get through planning. A new road under the railway would have to be built. Oh and it has been tried before. Ask Back to the Valley Party activists.Scoham said:https://www.lovesportradio.com/on-air/the-charlton-fans-show/
Listen to todays "The Charlton Fans Show" on Love Sport Radio. John Salako said he spoke to someone recently about a business plan being put together to move from The Valley to a brand new stadium in the local area.
If true the question is who's putting that together? And is it an attempt to try to attract potential new owners?0 -
He’s referring to developing the Valley if we moved.1
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Ah I see, I apologise.Covered End said:
What has a new stadium 2 miles from The Valley got to do with Charlton Lane etc ?harveys_gardener said:
Utter bollocks. This would need a profit between Peninsula and Valley. Apart from the steep side issues and overlooked by flats, access only via Charlton Lane wouldn't get through planning. A new road under the railway would have to be built. Oh and it has been tried before. Ask Back to the Valley Party activists.Scoham said:https://www.lovesportradio.com/on-air/the-charlton-fans-show/
Listen to todays "The Charlton Fans Show" on Love Sport Radio. John Salako said he spoke to someone recently about a business plan being put together to move from The Valley to a brand new stadium in the local area.
If true the question is who's putting that together? And is it an attempt to try to attract potential new owners?0 -
I’m up in Sunderland with the great nephew of a close friend of Jimmy Seed.
We’re having a very nice evening before hostilities commence tomorrow.
We’ve all been arguing on CL for months about the relative merits of various takeover bids, but at the end of the day we all want the best for our club. I personally don’t care if new owners are Aussie or Saudi or Russian, so long as they’re better than Roland. We’ve all had enough of this absolutely crap period of our history.
Good luck NLA, good luck Stu of China, good luck Redskin, good luck SDAddick.
At the end of the day we all want the same thing.
3 points tomorrow would be a start, but getting rid of Roland would mean much more.17 -
Duchatelet is absolutely influenced by how embarrassed he is in Sint truiden. If there is anything that will get him to just get rid of Charlton it is embarrassment there.
No idea why anyone thinks that calling Duchatelet out in his home town will not increase the likelihood of him selling.13 -
I gave up on the takeover 300 pages ago. I have felt much better ever since. I highly recommend it. Getting aligned with "what is" does wonders.0
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So. Roland was conned. Any conman will tell you that people are only conned when they want to be conned.nth london addick said:Roland Duchatelet is to blame for our plight
When it’s confirmed it’s all off then the Aussies will be accountable for assisting in the death toll
They cost us the Saudi bid that would’ve been extremely beneficial
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I don’t think anyone was conned I think there was a gamble made by aussies and RD that didn’t work
I was told very early on that RD was not keen on the deal that may be best for cafc long term
I think both wanted to get it done in the beginning but then it fell apart.
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What was the deal that might be best?nth london addick said:I don’t think anyone was conned I think there was a gamble made by aussies and RD that didn’t work
I was told very early on that RD was not keen on the deal that may be best for cafc long term
I think both wanted to get it done in the beginning but then it fell apart.0 - Sponsored links:
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That seems about right to me. Thanks for bringing a dose of reality to this threadnth london addick said:I don’t think anyone was conned I think there was a gamble made by aussies and RD that didn’t work
I was told very early on that RD was not keen on the deal that may be best for cafc long term
I think both wanted to get it done in the beginning but then it fell apart.0 -
Should have got the Arabs, rather than the Aussies upping their bid when they didn’t even have finances in place.
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I don't understand, if RD was not keen on the Aussie deal why did he let the Saudi's slip away? It strikes me he is just a very greedy man who has overpriced his assets and now we are all paying the price for that. I don't blame the Saudi's for walking away, I don't blame the Aussies for sticking around and trying to to get a reasonable deal. There's only one person to blame for the mess that's the bloke who bought the club, didn't understand it, didn't try to understand it, arrogantly denied his mistakes rather than trying to learn from them, epitomised the reverse-Midas touch as everything he touched turned to shit and when the club crashed and burned decided to sell for a price significantly more than he'd paid for it. The bloke is a Grade A arsehole, there's absolutely no need to go scratching around looking for someone else to blame.nth london addick said:I don’t think anyone was conned I think there was a gamble made by aussies and RD that didn’t work
I was told very early on that RD was not keen on the deal that may be best for cafc long term
I think both wanted to get it done in the beginning but then it fell apart.50 -
the lookman theory is bollocks coz the aussies would surely pay that so we could get players in before deadline day0
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I agree with both these statements. (If by "that", you mean Roland).nth london addick said:So no blame any where else
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Valley11 said:
What was the deal that might be best?nth london addick said:I don’t think anyone was conned I think there was a gamble made by aussies and RD that didn’t work
I was told very early on that RD was not keen on the deal that may be best for cafc long term
I think both wanted to get it done in the beginning but then it fell apart.
The Saudi money
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I know its been an absolute nightmare and we all want roland gone asap, but... is there anything more to these rumours that it's off than there have been the last 5 times the takeover was rumoured to be dead?1
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Might as well announce after the window has closed, blame the Aussies for the shambles of a squad we're left with.0
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It will as the Saudi deal he wasn’t keen on he wanted the Aussie one imoStig said:
I don't understand, if RD was not keen on the Aussie deal why did he let the Saudi's slip away? It strikes me he is just a very greedy man who has overpriced his assets and now we are all paying the price for that. I don't blame the Saudi's for walking away, I don't blame the Aussies for sticking around and trying to to get a reasonable deal. There's only one person to blame for the mess that's the bloke who bought the club, didn't understand it, didn't try to understand it, arrogantly denied his mistakes rather than trying to learn from them, epitomised the reverse-Midas touch as everything he touched turned to shit and when the club crashed and burned decided to sell for a price significantly more than he'd paid for it. The bloke is a Grade A arsehole, there's absolutely no need to go scratching around looking for someone else to blame.nth london addick said:I don’t think anyone was conned I think there was a gamble made by aussies and RD that didn’t work
I was told very early on that RD was not keen on the deal that may be best for cafc long term
I think both wanted to get it done in the beginning but then it fell apart.
No one is saying he ain’t to blame he is to blame
But there’s others that need to explain why they bid for s club that they didn’t have the funding in place to complete and why they out bid a group that did have clear funds3 -
If the Aussies bid more than the Saudis, then it’s hardly surprising that he went for their bid, we all would have.Stig said:
I don't understand, if RD was not keen on the Aussie deal why did he let the Saudi's slip away? It strikes me he is just a very greedy man who has overpriced his assets and now we are all paying the price for that. I don't blame the Saudi's for walking away, I don't blame the Aussies for sticking around and trying to to get a reasonable deal. There's only one person to blame for the mess that's the bloke who bought the club, didn't understand it, didn't try to understand it, arrogantly denied his mistakes rather than trying to learn from them, epitomised the reverse-Midas touch as everything he touched turned to shit and when the club crashed and burned decided to sell for a price significantly more than he'd paid for it. The bloke is a Grade A arsehole, there's absolutely no need to go scratching around looking for someone else to blame.nth london addick said:I don’t think anyone was conned I think there was a gamble made by aussies and RD that didn’t work
I was told very early on that RD was not keen on the deal that may be best for cafc long term
I think both wanted to get it done in the beginning but then it fell apart.
If their bid falls through, they have to shoulder part of the blame3 - Sponsored links:
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Remember every post on this thread is another new seat at the new stadium.
Maybe the takeover will happen when we have 40k comments and a blueprint for a 40k stadium on the Peninsular.2 -
I'm convinced they believed they could haggle at the last minute - which they attempted - to get the club at the 'right' price, they didn't expect RD to hold firm, at which point their plan started to fall apart.nth london addick said:
It will as the Saudi deal he wasn’t keen on he wanted the Aussie one imoStig said:
I don't understand, if RD was not keen on the Aussie deal why did he let the Saudi's slip away? It strikes me he is just a very greedy man who has overpriced his assets and now we are all paying the price for that. I don't blame the Saudi's for walking away, I don't blame the Aussies for sticking around and trying to to get a reasonable deal. There's only one person to blame for the mess that's the bloke who bought the club, didn't understand it, didn't try to understand it, arrogantly denied his mistakes rather than trying to learn from them, epitomised the reverse-Midas touch as everything he touched turned to shit and when the club crashed and burned decided to sell for a price significantly more than he'd paid for it. The bloke is a Grade A arsehole, there's absolutely no need to go scratching around looking for someone else to blame.nth london addick said:I don’t think anyone was conned I think there was a gamble made by aussies and RD that didn’t work
I was told very early on that RD was not keen on the deal that may be best for cafc long term
I think both wanted to get it done in the beginning but then it fell apart.
No one is saying he ain’t to blame he is to blame
But there’s others that need to explain why they bid for s club that they didn’t have the funding in place to complete and why they out bid a group that did have clear funds1 -
If you look at the peninsular now and the Chinese developers' proposed housing/retail/office plans you will not find space for a new stadium. The space needed would not generate enough use to make it worthwhile.MartinCAFC said:34.8k comments
Remember every post on this thread is another new seat at the new stadium.
Maybe the takeover will happen when we have 40k comments and a blueprint for a 40k stadium on the Peninsular.2 -
Valley11 said:
What was the deal that might be best?nth london addick said:I don’t think anyone was conned I think there was a gamble made by aussies and RD that didn’t work
I was told very early on that RD was not keen on the deal that may be best for cafc long term
I think both wanted to get it done in the beginning but then it fell apart.
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Mr Ben?Fumbluff said:Valley11 said:
What was the deal that might be best?nth london addick said:I don’t think anyone was conned I think there was a gamble made by aussies and RD that didn’t work
I was told very early on that RD was not keen on the deal that may be best for cafc long term
I think both wanted to get it done in the beginning but then it fell apart.
"As if by magic... the shopkeeper appeared." Hopefully he will buy the club.2 -
If I was RD I'd seek out that old time trader from Woolwich market, employ him as the agent and get him to liaise with the Arabs.
"I don't want 80 million, I don't want 60 million, I don't even want 50 million. Give me 40 million pounds cash and you walk away with a fantastic football club, first class facilities, a board room with a view to impress and influence people - and a fan base guaranteed to sell out every game - once you get to the Premiership. All this and bang in the middle of London. What more could you possibly want?"
(Voice quietens whilst theatrically tapping nose with index finger) Ere, ere, tell you what I'll do ... I'll even throw in a new boiler for the pitch and get it connected up and everything, come on you know it makes sense. (Offer hand, shake on deal). Simple.9 -
So has anyone confirmed it's off/on?1
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I bet Murray has a clue1
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They have shouldered part of the blame. The due dilligence exercise cost them over a million pounds & they have nothing to show for it.killerandflash said:
If the Aussies bid more than the Saudis, then it’s hardly surprising that he went for their bid, we all would have.Stig said:
I don't understand, if RD was not keen on the Aussie deal why did he let the Saudi's slip away? It strikes me he is just a very greedy man who has overpriced his assets and now we are all paying the price for that. I don't blame the Saudi's for walking away, I don't blame the Aussies for sticking around and trying to to get a reasonable deal. There's only one person to blame for the mess that's the bloke who bought the club, didn't understand it, didn't try to understand it, arrogantly denied his mistakes rather than trying to learn from them, epitomised the reverse-Midas touch as everything he touched turned to shit and when the club crashed and burned decided to sell for a price significantly more than he'd paid for it. The bloke is a Grade A arsehole, there's absolutely no need to go scratching around looking for someone else to blame.nth london addick said:I don’t think anyone was conned I think there was a gamble made by aussies and RD that didn’t work
I was told very early on that RD was not keen on the deal that may be best for cafc long term
I think both wanted to get it done in the beginning but then it fell apart.
If their bid falls through, they have to shoulder part of the blame5
