Click on it to read it. Basically says Keith Harris has been trying to find new investors so the takeover can go through, and that it’s unclear if that’s happened. If it hasn’t happened it says it’s in danger of collapsing.
Ahem “Aussies ain’t got the money”
Drops mic and walks away could’ve closed the thread in October
Ah, so this is the famous ‘waving of the willy’ that I’ve heard so much about ;-)
seems to be what the SLP are indicating @JamesSeed i think theres been so much dragging of heels that people interested have said i am off
Fair play if you turned out to be right all along. As I’ve said I’ve only had very little info since the beer meeting, and none of that was financial. Of course we still don’t know definitively what’s going on, but I guess we’ll hear soon. If they’ve failed it’s a damned shame, because I think they had the potential to give us ‘proper’ ownership for the first time in years.
I think anyone has the potential to give us 'proper' ownership but let's face initially it at the time of takeover we thought the same about RD and the spivs!
The difference here being that no one knew them personally did they? (As far as I know). I wouldn’t have said those things if I didn’t know GM, who I know for a fact isn’t/wasn’t trying to make a land grab, at least.
Apologies I didnt know you personally knew GM I thought your insight / opinion came from one of the lackey's who worked for him. Not withstanding that, in my opinion, and bar telling people snippets of what they want to hear, SomeoSomeone would have to know someone extremely well to share detailed information about their business plans especially parts that they might not want out in the public domain!
They didn’t share any details about their business plans, other than that it was a five year plan.
Click on it to read it. Basically says Keith Harris has been trying to find new investors so the takeover can go through, and that it’s unclear if that’s happened. If it hasn’t happened it says it’s in danger of collapsing.
That can't be right, we were told they definitely had the funds, despite several well-placed people saying it wasn't true.
Someone was being spun a line and fell for it hook, line and sinker.
Another depressing season starts tomorrow, what a time to be alive.
2 months ago when the Aussies were scarfed up in the Directors box they clearly had the money within the consortium and 1905 was happy that he would renew and would potentially have a decent season to look forward to.
Then the "Charlton affect" steamed in and here we are. Maybe Mark Hulyer can organise another rubber shipment to fill the financial gap? Maybe Zabeel will dust off their old DD? Maybe Sunley will build us a new stand? Maybe the lovely Glikstein family will find some old mouldies down the sofa and give us more depression. Maybe we can throw money in a bucket and buy another striker? Maybe we could play on Friday nights to bolster the crowd and use the carpark for a market on Saturday? Maybe we can share with those c***s again to keep the club alive?
In short, apart from the recent premiership years, common sense or luck never touches this club. It takes something different to be a Charlton fan. But one day it must change, but its the hope ..............
These days we could get an electronic Ronnie Moore certificate and help save the planet at the same time.
Personally, think there is every reason to protest at the first home game assuming no sale by then - don't believe a boycott is the right protest though. I'm not on the TB or CARD however.
Click on it to read it. Basically says Keith Harris has been trying to find new investors so the takeover can go through, and that it’s unclear if that’s happened. If it hasn’t happened it says it’s in danger of collapsing.
Ahem “Aussies ain’t got the money”
Drops mic and walks away could’ve closed the thread in October
Ah, so this is the famous ‘waving of the willy’ that I’ve heard so much about ;-)
seems to be what the SLP are indicating @JamesSeed i think theres been so much dragging of heels that people interested have said i am off
Fair play if you turned out to be right all along. As I’ve said I’ve only had very little info since the beer meeting, and none of that was financial. Of course we still don’t know definitively what’s going on, but I guess we’ll hear soon. If they’ve failed it’s a damned shame, because I think they had the potential to give us ‘proper’ ownership for the first time in years.
I think anyone has the potential to give us 'proper' ownership but let's face initially it at the time of takeover we thought the same about RD and the spivs!
The difference here being that no one knew them personally did they? (As far as I know). I wouldn’t have said those things if I didn’t know GM, who I know for a fact isn’t/wasn’t trying to make a land grab, at least.
Apologies I didnt know you personally knew GM I thought your insight / opinion came from one of the lackey's who worked for him. Not withstanding that, in my opinion, and bar telling people snippets of what they want to hear, SomeoSomeone would have to know someone extremely well to share detailed information about their business plans especially parts that they might not want out in the public domain!
They didn’t share any details about their business plans, other than that it was a five year plan.
Hard to say. When rumours appeared on CL about this in the past they were always incorrect, but this feels different somehow. But I texted earlier, and if it was definitely off I think I would have heard by now, but who knows. I have a theory that this delay is linked to the transfer window being open, but could well be wrong.
Personally, think there is every reason to protest at the first home game assuming no sale by then - don't believe a boycott is the right protest though. I'm not on the TB or CARD however.
Click on it to read it. Basically says Keith Harris has been trying to find new investors so the takeover can go through, and that it’s unclear if that’s happened. If it hasn’t happened it says it’s in danger of collapsing.
Ahem “Aussies ain’t got the money”
Drops mic and walks away could’ve closed the thread in October
Ah, so this is the famous ‘waving of the willy’ that I’ve heard so much about ;-)
seems to be what the SLP are indicating @JamesSeed i think theres been so much dragging of heels that people interested have said i am off
Fair play if you turned out to be right all along. As I’ve said I’ve only had very little info since the beer meeting, and none of that was financial. Of course we still don’t know definitively what’s going on, but I guess we’ll hear soon. If they’ve failed it’s a damned shame, because I think they had the potential to give us ‘proper’ ownership for the first time in years.
I think anyone has the potential to give us 'proper' ownership but let's face initially it at the time of takeover we thought the same about RD and the spivs!
The difference here being that no one knew them personally did they? (As far as I know). I wouldn’t have said those things if I didn’t know GM, who I know for a fact isn’t/wasn’t trying to make a land grab, at least.
Apologies I didnt know you personally knew GM I thought your insight / opinion came from one of the lackey's who worked for him. Not withstanding that, in my opinion, and bar telling people snippets of what they want to hear, SomeoSomeone would have to know someone extremely well to share detailed information about their business plans especially parts that they might not want out in the public domain!
They didn’t share any details about their business plans, other than that it was a five year plan.
Hard to say. When rumours appeared on CL about this in the past they were always incorrect, but this feels different somehow. But I texted earlier, and if it was definitely off I think I would have heard by now, but who knows. I have a theory that this delay is linked to the transfer window being open, but could well be wrong.
Why, do you think RD is trying to buy some big names (no, I don't mean long names), and go for promotion
Click on it to read it. Basically says Keith Harris has been trying to find new investors so the takeover can go through, and that it’s unclear if that’s happened. If it hasn’t happened it says it’s in danger of collapsing.
That can't be right, we were told they definitely had the funds, despite several well-placed people saying it wasn't true.
Someone was being spun a line and fell for it hook, line and sinker.
Another depressing season starts tomorrow, what a time to be alive.
2 months ago when the Aussies were scarfed up in the Directors box they clearly had the money within the consortium and 1905 was happy that he would renew and would potentially have a decent season to look forward to.
Then the "Charlton affect" steamed in and here we are. Maybe Mark Hulyer can organise another rubber shipment to fill the financial gap? Maybe Zabeel will dust off their old DD? Maybe Sunley will build us a new stand? Maybe the lovely Glikstein family will find some old mouldies down the sofa and give us more depression. Maybe we can throw money in a bucket and buy another striker? Maybe we could play on Friday nights to bolster the crowd and use the carpark for a market on Saturday? Maybe we can share with those c***s again to keep the club alive?
In short, apart from the recent premiership years, common sense or luck never touches this club. It takes something different to be a Charlton fan. But one day it must change, but its the hope ..............
These days we could get an electronic Ronnie Moore certificate and help save the planet at the same time.
We might need an electronic Ronnie Moore to play up front
Personally, think there is every reason to protest at the first home game assuming no sale by then - don't believe a boycott is the right protest though. I'm not on the TB or CARD however.
Click on it to read it. Basically says Keith Harris has been trying to find new investors so the takeover can go through, and that it’s unclear if that’s happened. If it hasn’t happened it says it’s in danger of collapsing.
Ahem “Aussies ain’t got the money”
Drops mic and walks away could’ve closed the thread in October
Ah, so this is the famous ‘waving of the willy’ that I’ve heard so much about ;-)
seems to be what the SLP are indicating @JamesSeed i think theres been so much dragging of heels that people interested have said i am off
Fair play if you turned out to be right all along. As I’ve said I’ve only had very little info since the beer meeting, and none of that was financial. Of course we still don’t know definitively what’s going on, but I guess we’ll hear soon. If they’ve failed it’s a damned shame, because I think they had the potential to give us ‘proper’ ownership for the first time in years.
I think anyone has the potential to give us 'proper' ownership but let's face initially it at the time of takeover we thought the same about RD and the spivs!
The difference here being that no one knew them personally did they? (As far as I know). I wouldn’t have said those things if I didn’t know GM, who I know for a fact isn’t/wasn’t trying to make a land grab, at least.
Apologies I didnt know you personally knew GM I thought your insight / opinion came from one of the lackey's who worked for him. Not withstanding that, in my opinion, and bar telling people snippets of what they want to hear, SomeoSomeone would have to know someone extremely well to share detailed information about their business plans especially parts that they might not want out in the public domain!
They didn’t share any details about their business plans, other than that it was a five year plan.
Hard to say. When rumours appeared on CL about this in the past they were always incorrect, but this feels different somehow. But I texted earlier, and if it was definitely off I think I would have heard by now, but who knows. I have a theory that this delay is linked to the transfer window being open, but could well be wrong.
In what way...Surely part of their "five year plan" would be to use the transfer window to their advantage..?
Click on it to read it. Basically says Keith Harris has been trying to find new investors so the takeover can go through, and that it’s unclear if that’s happened. If it hasn’t happened it says it’s in danger of collapsing.
Ahem “Aussies ain’t got the money”
Drops mic and walks away could’ve closed the thread in October
Ah, so this is the famous ‘waving of the willy’ that I’ve heard so much about ;-)
seems to be what the SLP are indicating @JamesSeed i think theres been so much dragging of heels that people interested have said i am off
Fair play if you turned out to be right all along. As I’ve said I’ve only had very little info since the beer meeting, and none of that was financial. Of course we still don’t know definitively what’s going on, but I guess we’ll hear soon. If they’ve failed it’s a damned shame, because I think they had the potential to give us ‘proper’ ownership for the first time in years.
I think anyone has the potential to give us 'proper' ownership but let's face initially it at the time of takeover we thought the same about RD and the spivs!
The difference here being that no one knew them personally did they? (As far as I know). I wouldn’t have said those things if I didn’t know GM, who I know for a fact isn’t/wasn’t trying to make a land grab, at least.
Apologies I didnt know you personally knew GM I thought your insight / opinion came from one of the lackey's who worked for him. Not withstanding that, in my opinion, and bar telling people snippets of what they want to hear, SomeoSomeone would have to know someone extremely well to share detailed information about their business plans especially parts that they might not want out in the public domain!
They didn’t share any details about their business plans, other than that it was a five year plan.
It's looking more and more like Roland, having been given a choice of a number of consortia from whom to choose, each submitting an acceptable bid, has chosen the wrong one. Assuming his spokespeople have been telling the truth when they claimed that there were a number of acceptable bids.
So it's either a case of him lying to the fans (again) or making a terrible, costly decision (again).
Click on it to read it. Basically says Keith Harris has been trying to find new investors so the takeover can go through, and that it’s unclear if that’s happened. If it hasn’t happened it says it’s in danger of collapsing.
Ahem “Aussies ain’t got the money”
Drops mic and walks away could’ve closed the thread in October
Ah, so this is the famous ‘waving of the willy’ that I’ve heard so much about ;-)
seems to be what the SLP are indicating @JamesSeed i think theres been so much dragging of heels that people interested have said i am off
Fair play if you turned out to be right all along. As I’ve said I’ve only had very little info since the beer meeting, and none of that was financial. Of course we still don’t know definitively what’s going on, but I guess we’ll hear soon. If they’ve failed it’s a damned shame, because I think they had the potential to give us ‘proper’ ownership for the first time in years.
I think anyone has the potential to give us 'proper' ownership but let's face initially it at the time of takeover we thought the same about RD and the spivs!
The difference here being that no one knew them personally did they? (As far as I know). I wouldn’t have said those things if I didn’t know GM, who I know for a fact isn’t/wasn’t trying to make a land grab, at least.
Apologies I didnt know you personally knew GM I thought your insight / opinion came from one of the lackey's who worked for him. Not withstanding that, in my opinion, and bar telling people snippets of what they want to hear, Someone would have to know someone extremely well to share detailed information about their business plans especially parts that they might not want out in the public domain! And especially to someone that may allude to knowing / sharing such on a public forum such as CL! .
I like this logic.
No criticism of @JamesSeed, you are entitled to believe who you want. but there is one thing i dont get - you have found confidence in the fact GM told you he has spent 2 years and 2 Million quid on due diligence. given the failure to complete, why does this inspire confidence? it inspires precisely the opposite in me - namely that he is lying or that he is incompetent. seems to be no other logical option.
One million. And there are other logical options.
Appreciate the response.
What do you think those other options may be ?
I really respect the contributions you have made to this thread and I doff my cap in the way you have shared. I don't share your enthusiasm but don't take it personally.
I received some info myself this week from Auz that makes me doubt this is gonna be salvaged. Nothing concrete and not claiming ITK particularly but the person who told me does have some links to the consortium directly.
The Chinese businessman that visited our club last year just commented on my Weibo post about our difficult situation saying that the asking price was 40m (meaning too high). Even an outsider knows why the sale still can't be completed after such a long time - Is it really all that complicated? Over a thousand pages of discussions about what? If RD really desperately wants to sell he'd lower the price to an acceptable level and there certainly will be buyers who are willing and able to buy. Even if Murray is causing difficulties, an attractive price would compensate. No club is impossible to sell.
Sunderland had complicated finances as well but their American owner wiped all of the debts so that the deal could go through smoothly. That's the difference between a bad owner and a much worse owner. RD will never do the same thing.
I've said it before but what Roland wants is not selling the club per se, his main aim is to get his money back. This is the reason he 'loaned' the money to the club in the first place. The only method left for him to achieve this is by selling the club, as he will never achieve football success and the youth academy cupboard is now bare.
If he wanted to sell, the club would be priced to sell and a chunk of the debt written off. £40m for Charlton in its current state is a ridiculous valuation and Roland is extremely fortunate that the Australian consortium is prepared to consider pay that much. Too many other interested parties have walked away when they find out the asking price.
Click on it to read it. Basically says Keith Harris has been trying to find new investors so the takeover can go through, and that it’s unclear if that’s happened. If it hasn’t happened it says it’s in danger of collapsing.
That can't be right, we were told they definitely had the funds, despite several well-placed people saying it wasn't true.
Someone was being spun a line and fell for it hook, line and sinker.
Another depressing season starts tomorrow, what a time to be alive.
2 months ago when the Aussies were scarfed up in the Directors box they clearly had the money within the consortium and 1905 was happy that he would renew and would potentially have a decent season to look forward to.
I just find that too hard to believe, I think they always planned to drop the price at the last minute and did not expect the reaction they got from RD, it was a dangerous game that they lost, sadly, so did we.
Click on it to read it. Basically says Keith Harris has been trying to find new investors so the takeover can go through, and that it’s unclear if that’s happened. If it hasn’t happened it says it’s in danger of collapsing.
Ahem “Aussies ain’t got the money”
Drops mic and walks away could’ve closed the thread in October
Ah, so this is the famous ‘waving of the willy’ that I’ve heard so much about ;-)
seems to be what the SLP are indicating @JamesSeed i think theres been so much dragging of heels that people interested have said i am off
Fair play if you turned out to be right all along. As I’ve said I’ve only had very little info since the beer meeting, and none of that was financial. Of course we still don’t know definitively what’s going on, but I guess we’ll hear soon. If they’ve failed it’s a damned shame, because I think they had the potential to give us ‘proper’ ownership for the first time in years.
I think anyone has the potential to give us 'proper' ownership but let's face initially it at the time of takeover we thought the same about RD and the spivs!
The difference here being that no one knew them personally did they? (As far as I know). I wouldn’t have said those things if I didn’t know GM, who I know for a fact isn’t/wasn’t trying to make a land grab, at least.
Apologies I didnt know you personally knew GM I thought your insight / opinion came from one of the lackey's who worked for him. Not withstanding that, in my opinion, and bar telling people snippets of what they want to hear, SomeoSomeone would have to know someone extremely well to share detailed information about their business plans especially parts that they might not want out in the public domain!
They didn’t share any details about their business plans, other than that it was a five year plan.
Personally, think there is every reason to protest at the first home game assuming no sale by then - don't believe a boycott is the right protest though. I'm not on the TB or CARD however.
Click on it to read it. Basically says Keith Harris has been trying to find new investors so the takeover can go through, and that it’s unclear if that’s happened. If it hasn’t happened it says it’s in danger of collapsing.
Ahem “Aussies ain’t got the money”
Drops mic and walks away could’ve closed the thread in October
Ah, so this is the famous ‘waving of the willy’ that I’ve heard so much about ;-)
seems to be what the SLP are indicating @JamesSeed i think theres been so much dragging of heels that people interested have said i am off
Fair play if you turned out to be right all along. As I’ve said I’ve only had very little info since the beer meeting, and none of that was financial. Of course we still don’t know definitively what’s going on, but I guess we’ll hear soon. If they’ve failed it’s a damned shame, because I think they had the potential to give us ‘proper’ ownership for the first time in years.
I think anyone has the potential to give us 'proper' ownership but let's face initially it at the time of takeover we thought the same about RD and the spivs!
The difference here being that no one knew them personally did they? (As far as I know). I wouldn’t have said those things if I didn’t know GM, who I know for a fact isn’t/wasn’t trying to make a land grab, at least.
Apologies I didnt know you personally knew GM I thought your insight / opinion came from one of the lackey's who worked for him. Not withstanding that, in my opinion, and bar telling people snippets of what they want to hear, SomeoSomeone would have to know someone extremely well to share detailed information about their business plans especially parts that they might not want out in the public domain!
They didn’t share any details about their business plans, other than that it was a five year plan.
Hard to say. When rumours appeared on CL about this in the past they were always incorrect, but this feels different somehow. But I texted earlier, and if it was definitely off I think I would have heard by now, but who knows. I have a theory that this delay is linked to the transfer window being open, but could well be wrong.
In what way...Surely part of their "five year plan" would be to use the transfer window to their advantage..?
@JamesSeed...Why do you think the delay is to do with transfer window being open..?
The Aussies have been around for months...Many thought it would be done by the last transfer window.
Surely it's the best time to improve a football Club...
Click on it to read it. Basically says Keith Harris has been trying to find new investors so the takeover can go through, and that it’s unclear if that’s happened. If it hasn’t happened it says it’s in danger of collapsing.
Ahem “Aussies ain’t got the money”
Drops mic and walks away could’ve closed the thread in October
Ah, so this is the famous ‘waving of the willy’ that I’ve heard so much about ;-)
seems to be what the SLP are indicating @JamesSeed i think theres been so much dragging of heels that people interested have said i am off
Fair play if you turned out to be right all along. As I’ve said I’ve only had very little info since the beer meeting, and none of that was financial. Of course we still don’t know definitively what’s going on, but I guess we’ll hear soon. If they’ve failed it’s a damned shame, because I think they had the potential to give us ‘proper’ ownership for the first time in years.
I think anyone has the potential to give us 'proper' ownership but let's face initially it at the time of takeover we thought the same about RD and the spivs!
The difference here being that no one knew them personally did they? (As far as I know). I wouldn’t have said those things if I didn’t know GM, who I know for a fact isn’t/wasn’t trying to make a land grab, at least.
Apologies I didnt know you personally knew GM I thought your insight / opinion came from one of the lackey's who worked for him. Not withstanding that, in my opinion, and bar telling people snippets of what they want to hear, SomeoSomeone would have to know someone extremely well to share detailed information about their business plans especially parts that they might not want out in the public domain!
They didn’t share any details about their business plans, other than that it was a five year plan.
Which we already knew.
How did you know that?
I can't remember it was said so long ago.
The 5 year plan was to get the under performing club into The Premier League and then sell up.
Click on it to read it. Basically says Keith Harris has been trying to find new investors so the takeover can go through, and that it’s unclear if that’s happened. If it hasn’t happened it says it’s in danger of collapsing.
Ahem “Aussies ain’t got the money”
Drops mic and walks away could’ve closed the thread in October
Ah, so this is the famous ‘waving of the willy’ that I’ve heard so much about ;-)
seems to be what the SLP are indicating @JamesSeed i think theres been so much dragging of heels that people interested have said i am off
Fair play if you turned out to be right all along. As I’ve said I’ve only had very little info since the beer meeting, and none of that was financial. Of course we still don’t know definitively what’s going on, but I guess we’ll hear soon. If they’ve failed it’s a damned shame, because I think they had the potential to give us ‘proper’ ownership for the first time in years.
I think anyone has the potential to give us 'proper' ownership but let's face initially it at the time of takeover we thought the same about RD and the spivs!
The difference here being that no one knew them personally did they? (As far as I know). I wouldn’t have said those things if I didn’t know GM, who I know for a fact isn’t/wasn’t trying to make a land grab, at least.
Apologies I didnt know you personally knew GM I thought your insight / opinion came from one of the lackey's who worked for him. Not withstanding that, in my opinion, and bar telling people snippets of what they want to hear, SomeoSomeone would have to know someone extremely well to share detailed information about their business plans especially parts that they might not want out in the public domain!
They didn’t share any details about their business plans, other than that it was a five year plan.
Which we already knew.
How did you know that?
I can't remember it was said so long ago.
The 5 year plan was to get the under performing club into The Premier League and then sell up.
Wasn't it in their prospectus or am I dreaming that?
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Duchatelet needs to have a rethink!
But I texted earlier, and if it was definitely off I think I would have heard by now, but who knows.
I have a theory that this delay is linked to the transfer window being open, but could well be wrong.
So it's either a case of him lying to the fans (again) or making a terrible, costly decision (again).
What do you think those other options may be ?
I really respect the contributions you have made to this thread and I doff my cap in the way you have shared. I don't share your enthusiasm but don't take it personally.
I received some info myself this week from Auz that makes me doubt this is gonna be salvaged. Nothing concrete and not claiming ITK particularly but the person who told me does have some links to the consortium directly.
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Impressed with your knowledge of The Big O's music @cabbles, for a youngster.
The Aussies have been around for months...Many thought it would be done by the last transfer window.
Surely it's the best time to improve a football Club...
The 5 year plan was to get the under performing club into The Premier League and then sell up.