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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • Red7Oak said:

    JamesSeed said:

    JamesSeed said:



    Scoham said:

    Click on it to read it. Basically says Keith Harris has been trying to find new investors so the takeover can go through, and that it’s unclear if that’s happened. If it hasn’t happened it says it’s in danger of collapsing.

    Ahem “Aussies ain’t got the money”

    Drops mic and walks away could’ve closed the thread in October
    Ah, so this is the famous ‘waving of the willy’ that I’ve heard so much about ;-)
    seems to be what the SLP are indicating @JamesSeed i think theres been so much dragging of heels that people interested have said i am off
    Fair play if you turned out to be right all along. As I’ve said I’ve only had very little info since the beer meeting, and none of that was financial.
    Of course we still don’t know definitively what’s going on, but I guess we’ll hear soon.
    If they’ve failed it’s a damned shame, because I think they had the potential to give us ‘proper’ ownership for the first time in years.
    I think anyone has the potential to give us 'proper' ownership but let's face initially it at the time of takeover we thought the same about RD and the spivs! :(
    The problem is when your ship is sinking you are not really bothered who is in charge of the life boat.
  • edited August 2018

    Aussies deal has collapsed.

    ?
    Red7Oak said:

    JamesSeed said:

    JamesSeed said:



    Scoham said:

    Click on it to read it. Basically says Keith Harris has been trying to find new investors so the takeover can go through, and that it’s unclear if that’s happened. If it hasn’t happened it says it’s in danger of collapsing.

    Ahem “Aussies ain’t got the money”

    Drops mic and walks away could’ve closed the thread in October
    Ah, so this is the famous ‘waving of the willy’ that I’ve heard so much about ;-)
    seems to be what the SLP are indicating @JamesSeed i think theres been so much dragging of heels that people interested have said i am off
    Fair play if you turned out to be right all along. As I’ve said I’ve only had very little info since the beer meeting, and none of that was financial.
    Of course we still don’t know definitively what’s going on, but I guess we’ll hear soon.
    If they’ve failed it’s a damned shame, because I think they had the potential to give us ‘proper’ ownership for the first time in years.
    I think anyone has the potential to give us 'proper' ownership but let's face initially it at the time of takeover we thought the same about RD and the spivs! :(
    The difference here being that no one knew them personally did they? (As far as I know).
    I wouldn’t have said those things if I didn’t know GM, who I know for a fact isn’t/wasn’t trying to make a land grab, at least.
  • Not surprised no one wants to pay Roland's unrealistic asking price.

    I can't believe people talked about stalling protests - some clearly way too suckered in by the takeover saga. The bloke's personal life needs to be made very uncomfortable indeed. The sooner he realises holding on to CAFC isn't in his best interests, the better.

    Problem is that it seems the Aussies were willing to pay an agreed price if they could get funding. Unfortunately if true that may have raised Roland's expectations. Perhaps without their interest Roland would have to have listened to one of the more reasonable bids some time ago! If they could not complete what they started they have probably right f'd us up! :(
  • wwaddick said:

    Today’s SLP

    Utterly, utterly depressing.

    I'm pretty certain that no-one will have noticed but I'm finding it increasingly difficult to drum up any enthusiasm to post on this great site lately.

    Part of me says I should contribute whether everything in the SE7 garden is rosy or whether it's being strangled by Japanese knotweed , but I can barely force myself to open this thread at the moment and that says it all.

    In the close season, CL has always been my "saviour" - full of news, rumours but most of all optimism for the coming term and this has kept me going until we flood through those turnstiles once again, bursting with excitement and indeed, love for our club.

    Oh for those days when life seemed so simple!

    Pathetically, I have been reduced to a shadow of the Addick who couldn't wait for the next match , whether home or away and for whom there would have been one subject of conversation with friends & family from August to May.

    During August and into September in past years, there has been a minor conflict between supporting my football club and my cricket team with the former inevitably being the winner.

    However, with the decision not to travel to both Sunderland and Accrington ( not totally for footballing reasons) I find myself making plans for more visits to Canterbury and Beckenham whilst a family break to Disneyland Paris has been arranged in October with another home game the casualty.

    A sad state of affairs indeed.

    Of course, I shall be at our Valley home for the Shrewsbury match & there are no plans to miss subsequent ones but my enthusiasm is flagging alarmingly at this moment in time.

    With matters on & off the pitch seemingly in total chaos, it could take something very special to rekindle "the love" and for Fanny's considerable, if saggy, loins to be girded once again.

    Oh for a knight on a white charger !

    Reg ! Where art thou ?
    Hey Buddy we both know too well that although CAFC is a big part of life and the part that is meant to take away the shit stuff we face and be the escape it hasnt been like that for a while, nut we both also know theres more to lose in life than the thrill of 3 points and the pride in the team,

    my advice Jean is to just focus on the real world stuff and let CAFC worry about its future theres not a jot any one can do to make RD sell any quicker if they dont front up the dough theres no sale the rest is all conjecture and bullshit peddled out deliberately to try and win favour from both sides

    RD will sell when someone makes the right offer and shows their money, his valuation is irrelavent it doesnt matter if we think itys too high, if its too high no one will bite and he will have to reconsider

    Fuck the takeover
    Maybe just feeling particularly low this morning & reading the report from the SLP seems to have opened the flood gates.

    Your post exudes common sense- something I've always lacked, letting my heart rule my head.

    Thanks for the good advice.
    We have both been feeling the 1st world pain stuff Jean CAFC just exagerates our euphoria or our sorrow, Its really not worth it

    i think the fans have done a great job rallying and forcing the old scroat to sell up and that has happened he is selling so be proud of that

    but we can do no more so do not let it over take whats important

    But your whole point NLA is that he isn’t selling, he wants to sell, but he is not putting a reasonable value on it.

    So why can’t we do more to make him realise that he has to sell at a lower price?

    In the UK I feel that this is limited but if we had people in Sint Truiden every week pushing the ROT agenda, that must be worth the effort.

    For too many months now we have thought the takeover was imminent but it may not be and the main reason is because while Duchatelet wants to sell, he doesn’t want to sell enough.


    He is selling ?

    the club is up for sale is it not,

    the valuation of CAFC is not for us to decide, he has had 2 offers in or around his valuation so as far as he is concerned he is in the correct ball park

    i aint saying stop doing whatever people wish to do to continue embarrasing him but he is a very very wealthy man and his financial clout is a big concern as i honestly believe that he is rich enough to make this very very difficult for us as fans and will go when he decides the time and the price is right, not when he has had enough of the gripes we cause
    So he's happy to lose x million per year as long as it pisses off a few fans?

    Seems like an even weirder individual than I thought if he's effectively willing to pay a "wind up Charlton fans" subscription service.
  • JamesSeed said:



    Scoham said:

    Click on it to read it. Basically says Keith Harris has been trying to find new investors so the takeover can go through, and that it’s unclear if that’s happened. If it hasn’t happened it says it’s in danger of collapsing.

    Ahem “Aussies ain’t got the money”

    Drops mic and walks away could’ve closed the thread in October
    Ah, so this is the famous ‘waving of the willy’ that I’ve heard so much about ;-)
    seems to be what the SLP are indicating @JamesSeed i think theres been so much dragging of heels that people interested have said i am off
    That's assuming the consortium was ever complete in the first place, not including people who already had stakes in other clubs, which the EFL were never going to stand for.
    You know my personal view on it Stu , i have never for one moment believed they had the funds secured to complete and i was then and i still am very happy to be proven wrong
    Aye, I reckon we've dodged a bullet, hopefully someone with proper money shows an interest soon.
  • wwaddick said:

    Today’s SLP

    Utterly, utterly depressing.

    I'm pretty certain that no-one will have noticed but I'm finding it increasingly difficult to drum up any enthusiasm to post on this great site lately.

    Part of me says I should contribute whether everything in the SE7 garden is rosy or whether it's being strangled by Japanese knotweed , but I can barely force myself to open this thread at the moment and that says it all.

    In the close season, CL has always been my "saviour" - full of news, rumours but most of all optimism for the coming term and this has kept me going until we flood through those turnstiles once again, bursting with excitement and indeed, love for our club.

    Oh for those days when life seemed so simple!

    Pathetically, I have been reduced to a shadow of the Addick who couldn't wait for the next match , whether home or away and for whom there would have been one subject of conversation with friends & family from August to May.

    During August and into September in past years, there has been a minor conflict between supporting my football club and my cricket team with the former inevitably being the winner.

    However, with the decision not to travel to both Sunderland and Accrington ( not totally for footballing reasons) I find myself making plans for more visits to Canterbury and Beckenham whilst a family break to Disneyland Paris has been arranged in October with another home game the casualty.

    A sad state of affairs indeed.

    Of course, I shall be at our Valley home for the Shrewsbury match & there are no plans to miss subsequent ones but my enthusiasm is flagging alarmingly at this moment in time.

    With matters on & off the pitch seemingly in total chaos, it could take something very special to rekindle "the love" and for Fanny's considerable, if saggy, loins to be girded once again.

    Oh for a knight on a white charger !

    Reg ! Where art thou ?
    Hey Buddy we both know too well that although CAFC is a big part of life and the part that is meant to take away the shit stuff we face and be the escape it hasnt been like that for a while, nut we both also know theres more to lose in life than the thrill of 3 points and the pride in the team,

    my advice Jean is to just focus on the real world stuff and let CAFC worry about its future theres not a jot any one can do to make RD sell any quicker if they dont front up the dough theres no sale the rest is all conjecture and bullshit peddled out deliberately to try and win favour from both sides

    RD will sell when someone makes the right offer and shows their money, his valuation is irrelavent it doesnt matter if we think itys too high, if its too high no one will bite and he will have to reconsider

    Fuck the takeover
    Maybe just feeling particularly low this morning & reading the report from the SLP seems to have opened the flood gates.

    Your post exudes common sense- something I've always lacked, letting my heart rule my head.

    Thanks for the good advice.
    We have both been feeling the 1st world pain stuff Jean CAFC just exagerates our euphoria or our sorrow, Its really not worth it

    i think the fans have done a great job rallying and forcing the old scroat to sell up and that has happened he is selling so be proud of that

    but we can do no more so do not let it over take whats important

    But your whole point NLA is that he isn’t selling, he wants to sell, but he is not putting a reasonable value on it.

    So why can’t we do more to make him realise that he has to sell at a lower price?

    In the UK I feel that this is limited but if we had people in Sint Truiden every week pushing the ROT agenda, that must be worth the effort.

    For too many months now we have thought the takeover was imminent but it may not be and the main reason is because while Duchatelet wants to sell, he doesn’t want to sell enough.


    He is selling ?

    the club is up for sale is it not,

    the valuation of CAFC is not for us to decide, he has had 2 offers in or around his valuation so as far as he is concerned he is in the correct ball park

    i aint saying stop doing whatever people wish to do to continue embarrasing him but he is a very very wealthy man and his financial clout is a big concern as i honestly believe that he is rich enough to make this very very difficult for us as fans and will go when he decides the time and the price is right, not when he has had enough of the gripes we cause
    So he's happy to lose x million per year as long as it pisses off a few fans?

    Seems like an even weirder individual than I thought if he's effectively willing to pay a "wind up Charlton fans" subscription service.


    He certainly has shown nothing to me prior to this situation to say he is anything other than a very rich Oddball and because of this why we expect him to act rationally or with the business accumin that others have pointed out as the best thing he can do

    the bloke is hell bent on fucking us over i am sure of it
  • JamesSeed said:



    Scoham said:

    Click on it to read it. Basically says Keith Harris has been trying to find new investors so the takeover can go through, and that it’s unclear if that’s happened. If it hasn’t happened it says it’s in danger of collapsing.

    Ahem “Aussies ain’t got the money”

    Drops mic and walks away could’ve closed the thread in October
    Ah, so this is the famous ‘waving of the willy’ that I’ve heard so much about ;-)
    seems to be what the SLP are indicating @JamesSeed i think theres been so much dragging of heels that people interested have said i am off
    That's assuming the consortium was ever complete in the first place, not including people who already had stakes in other clubs, which the EFL were never going to stand for.
    You know my personal view on it Stu , i have never for one moment believed they had the funds secured to complete and i was then and i still am very happy to be proven wrong
    I believe they did on May 18th.
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  • JamesSeed said:

    JamesSeed said:



    Scoham said:

    Click on it to read it. Basically says Keith Harris has been trying to find new investors so the takeover can go through, and that it’s unclear if that’s happened. If it hasn’t happened it says it’s in danger of collapsing.

    Ahem “Aussies ain’t got the money”

    Drops mic and walks away could’ve closed the thread in October
    Ah, so this is the famous ‘waving of the willy’ that I’ve heard so much about ;-)
    seems to be what the SLP are indicating @JamesSeed i think theres been so much dragging of heels that people interested have said i am off
    That's assuming the consortium was ever complete in the first place, not including people who already had stakes in other clubs, which the EFL were never going to stand for.
    You know my personal view on it Stu , i have never for one moment believed they had the funds secured to complete and i was then and i still am very happy to be proven wrong
    I believe they did on May 18th.
    But if that involved people any idiot knew The EFL would reject, it amounts to the same thing, surely?

  • edited August 2018

    JamesSeed said:

    JamesSeed said:



    Scoham said:

    Click on it to read it. Basically says Keith Harris has been trying to find new investors so the takeover can go through, and that it’s unclear if that’s happened. If it hasn’t happened it says it’s in danger of collapsing.

    Ahem “Aussies ain’t got the money”

    Drops mic and walks away could’ve closed the thread in October
    Ah, so this is the famous ‘waving of the willy’ that I’ve heard so much about ;-)
    seems to be what the SLP are indicating @JamesSeed i think theres been so much dragging of heels that people interested have said i am off
    That's assuming the consortium was ever complete in the first place, not including people who already had stakes in other clubs, which the EFL were never going to stand for.
    You know my personal view on it Stu , i have never for one moment believed they had the funds secured to complete and i was then and i still am very happy to be proven wrong
    I believe they did on May 18th.
    But if that involved people any idiot knew The EFL would reject, it amounts to the same thing, surely?

    That assumes these ARE people "any idiot knew the EFL would reject" , which is far from confirmed. There is only one person confirmed as part of the consortium and that's Muir, who the EFL would have no reason to reject. The other names have all been speculative.
  • Scoham said:

    wwaddick said:

    Today’s SLP

    Utterly, utterly depressing.

    I'm pretty certain that no-one will have noticed but I'm finding it increasingly difficult to drum up any enthusiasm to post on this great site lately.

    Part of me says I should contribute whether everything in the SE7 garden is rosy or whether it's being strangled by Japanese knotweed , but I can barely force myself to open this thread at the moment and that says it all.

    In the close season, CL has always been my "saviour" - full of news, rumours but most of all optimism for the coming term and this has kept me going until we flood through those turnstiles once again, bursting with excitement and indeed, love for our club.

    Oh for those days when life seemed so simple!

    Pathetically, I have been reduced to a shadow of the Addick who couldn't wait for the next match , whether home or away and for whom there would have been one subject of conversation with friends & family from August to May.

    During August and into September in past years, there has been a minor conflict between supporting my football club and my cricket team with the former inevitably being the winner.

    However, with the decision not to travel to both Sunderland and Accrington ( not totally for footballing reasons) I find myself making plans for more visits to Canterbury and Beckenham whilst a family break to Disneyland Paris has been arranged in October with another home game the casualty.

    A sad state of affairs indeed.

    Of course, I shall be at our Valley home for the Shrewsbury match & there are no plans to miss subsequent ones but my enthusiasm is flagging alarmingly at this moment in time.

    With matters on & off the pitch seemingly in total chaos, it could take something very special to rekindle "the love" and for Fanny's considerable, if saggy, loins to be girded once again.

    Oh for a knight on a white charger !

    Reg ! Where art thou ?
    Hey Buddy we both know too well that although CAFC is a big part of life and the part that is meant to take away the shit stuff we face and be the escape it hasnt been like that for a while, nut we both also know theres more to lose in life than the thrill of 3 points and the pride in the team,

    my advice Jean is to just focus on the real world stuff and let CAFC worry about its future theres not a jot any one can do to make RD sell any quicker if they dont front up the dough theres no sale the rest is all conjecture and bullshit peddled out deliberately to try and win favour from both sides

    RD will sell when someone makes the right offer and shows their money, his valuation is irrelavent it doesnt matter if we think itys too high, if its too high no one will bite and he will have to reconsider

    Fuck the takeover
    Maybe just feeling particularly low this morning & reading the report from the SLP seems to have opened the flood gates.

    Your post exudes common sense- something I've always lacked, letting my heart rule my head.

    Thanks for the good advice.
    We have both been feeling the 1st world pain stuff Jean CAFC just exagerates our euphoria or our sorrow, Its really not worth it

    i think the fans have done a great job rallying and forcing the old scroat to sell up and that has happened he is selling so be proud of that

    but we can do no more so do not let it over take whats important

    But your whole point NLA is that he isn’t selling, he wants to sell, but he is not putting a reasonable value on it.

    So why can’t we do more to make him realise that he has to sell at a lower price?

    In the UK I feel that this is limited but if we had people in Sint Truiden every week pushing the ROT agenda, that must be worth the effort.

    For too many months now we have thought the takeover was imminent but it may not be and the main reason is because while Duchatelet wants to sell, he doesn’t want to sell enough.


    He is selling ?

    the club is up for sale is it not,

    the valuation of CAFC is not for us to decide, he has had 2 offers in or around his valuation so as far as he is concerned he is in the correct ball park

    i aint saying stop doing whatever people wish to do to continue embarrasing him but he is a very very wealthy man and his financial clout is a big concern as i honestly believe that he is rich enough to make this very very difficult for us as fans and will go when he decides the time and the price is right, not when he has had enough of the gripes we cause
    So he's happy to lose x million per year as long as it pisses off a few fans?

    Seems like an even weirder individual than I thought if he's effectively willing to pay a "wind up Charlton fans" subscription service.


    He certainly has shown nothing to me prior to this situation to say he is anything other than a very rich Oddball and because of this why we expect him to act rationally or with the business accumin that others have pointed out as the best thing he can do

    the bloke is hell bent on fucking us over i am sure of it
    Is he? Or does he just want his asking price?

    If someone could complete a deal for£50m (or whatever he wants) today he'd sell. I don't believe he'd hang on for a few months to wind up Charlton fans.
    Thats not what i have suggested,

    if you read back its about the fact that there are people saying he has an unrealistic valaution, I am saying that may well be the case but RD is not bothered by that, so far 2 sets of people have offered his valuation or close enough to it to be willing to sell,

    but until the point of completion to his valuation he will just continue being a cock
  • You have to admit. At this point things are not looking good.

    Am I alone in thinking that The Trust should once again be pushing for a statement from the club. The new season is right here. Right now. We currently have No Chairman, CEO, CFO, No permanent team manager and only 17 players on the coach to Sunderland tomorrow.

    maybe they could ask for an apology at the same time ;)
  • wwaddick said:

    Today’s SLP

    Utterly, utterly depressing.

    I'm pretty certain that no-one will have noticed but I'm finding it increasingly difficult to drum up any enthusiasm to post on this great site lately.

    Part of me says I should contribute whether everything in the SE7 garden is rosy or whether it's being strangled by Japanese knotweed , but I can barely force myself to open this thread at the moment and that says it all.

    In the close season, CL has always been my "saviour" - full of news, rumours but most of all optimism for the coming term and this has kept me going until we flood through those turnstiles once again, bursting with excitement and indeed, love for our club.

    Oh for those days when life seemed so simple!

    Pathetically, I have been reduced to a shadow of the Addick who couldn't wait for the next match , whether home or away and for whom there would have been one subject of conversation with friends & family from August to May.

    During August and into September in past years, there has been a minor conflict between supporting my football club and my cricket team with the former inevitably being the winner.

    However, with the decision not to travel to both Sunderland and Accrington ( not totally for footballing reasons) I find myself making plans for more visits to Canterbury and Beckenham whilst a family break to Disneyland Paris has been arranged in October with another home game the casualty.

    A sad state of affairs indeed.

    Of course, I shall be at our Valley home for the Shrewsbury match & there are no plans to miss subsequent ones but my enthusiasm is flagging alarmingly at this moment in time.

    With matters on & off the pitch seemingly in total chaos, it could take something very special to rekindle "the love" and for Fanny's considerable, if saggy, loins to be girded once again.

    Oh for a knight on a white charger !

    Reg ! Where art thou ?
    Hey Buddy we both know too well that although CAFC is a big part of life and the part that is meant to take away the shit stuff we face and be the escape it hasnt been like that for a while, nut we both also know theres more to lose in life than the thrill of 3 points and the pride in the team,

    my advice Jean is to just focus on the real world stuff and let CAFC worry about its future theres not a jot any one can do to make RD sell any quicker if they dont front up the dough theres no sale the rest is all conjecture and bullshit peddled out deliberately to try and win favour from both sides

    RD will sell when someone makes the right offer and shows their money, his valuation is irrelavent it doesnt matter if we think itys too high, if its too high no one will bite and he will have to reconsider

    Fuck the takeover
    Maybe just feeling particularly low this morning & reading the report from the SLP seems to have opened the flood gates.

    Your post exudes common sense- something I've always lacked, letting my heart rule my head.

    Thanks for the good advice.
    We have both been feeling the 1st world pain stuff Jean CAFC just exagerates our euphoria or our sorrow, Its really not worth it

    i think the fans have done a great job rallying and forcing the old scroat to sell up and that has happened he is selling so be proud of that

    but we can do no more so do not let it over take whats important

    But your whole point NLA is that he isn’t selling, he wants to sell, but he is not putting a reasonable value on it.

    So why can’t we do more to make him realise that he has to sell at a lower price?

    In the UK I feel that this is limited but if we had people in Sint Truiden every week pushing the ROT agenda, that must be worth the effort.

    For too many months now we have thought the takeover was imminent but it may not be and the main reason is because while Duchatelet wants to sell, he doesn’t want to sell enough.


    He is selling ?

    the club is up for sale is it not,

    the valuation of CAFC is not for us to decide, he has had 2 offers in or around his valuation so as far as he is concerned he is in the correct ball park

    i aint saying stop doing whatever people wish to do to continue embarrasing him but he is a very very wealthy man and his financial clout is a big concern as i honestly believe that he is rich enough to make this very very difficult for us as fans and will go when he decides the time and the price is right, not when he has had enough of the gripes we cause
    So he's happy to lose x million per year as long as it pisses off a few fans?

    Seems like an even weirder individual than I thought if he's effectively willing to pay a "wind up Charlton fans" subscription service.


    He certainly has shown nothing to me prior to this situation to say he is anything other than a very rich Oddball and because of this why we expect him to act rationally or with the business accumin that others have pointed out as the best thing he can do

    the bloke is hell bent on fucking us over i am sure of it
    Totally agree NLA and like you, I have been saying it all along.

    The money is irrelevant to him. All he wants is payback for the embarrassment that he has rightly suffered in his own country. He is a sadistic megalomaniac and will be absolutely loving the merry-go-round that he has put everybody on! Trouble is, this merry-go-round only has a stop button when he decides to push it.
  • JamesSeed said:



    Scoham said:

    Click on it to read it. Basically says Keith Harris has been trying to find new investors so the takeover can go through, and that it’s unclear if that’s happened. If it hasn’t happened it says it’s in danger of collapsing.

    Ahem “Aussies ain’t got the money”

    Drops mic and walks away could’ve closed the thread in October
    Ah, so this is the famous ‘waving of the willy’ that I’ve heard so much about ;-)
    seems to be what the SLP are indicating @JamesSeed i think theres been so much dragging of heels that people interested have said i am off
    That's assuming the consortium was ever complete in the first place, not including people who already had stakes in other clubs, which the EFL were never going to stand for.
    You know my personal view on it Stu , i have never for one moment believed they had the funds secured to complete and i was then and i still am very happy to be proven wrong
    Aye, I reckon we've dodged a bullet, hopefully someone with proper money shows an interest soon.
    If there was any other party interested in paying RD's price then they'd surely have come forward by now.
  • Can someone post this supposed article raising this old chestnut of funds. And why is Keith Harris involved with the Aussies? Surely the other lot.
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  • Can someone post this supposed article raising this old chestnut of funds. And why is Keith Harris involved with the Aussies? Surely the other lot.

    The link is on this thread.
  • I still don't know why Muir (who must have enough money), doesn't cover whatever difference is needed in funds, get us out of this shit hole division, then look to seek more investors once we're in the championship and a much better opportunity

    Because that is a huge risk on his investment, he is not a Charlton fan so why would he do that? The whole point of a consortium is to spread the risk out.
  • I still don't know why Muir (who must have enough money), doesn't cover whatever difference is needed in funds, get us out of this shit hole division, then look to seek more investors once we're in the championship and a much better opportunity

    I would guess that would involve a change in ownership, and the EFL "Fit and Proper" carousel would just kick in again...
  • Scoham said:

    wwaddick said:

    Today’s SLP

    Utterly, utterly depressing.

    I'm pretty certain that no-one will have noticed but I'm finding it increasingly difficult to drum up any enthusiasm to post on this great site lately.

    Part of me says I should contribute whether everything in the SE7 garden is rosy or whether it's being strangled by Japanese knotweed , but I can barely force myself to open this thread at the moment and that says it all.

    In the close season, CL has always been my "saviour" - full of news, rumours but most of all optimism for the coming term and this has kept me going until we flood through those turnstiles once again, bursting with excitement and indeed, love for our club.

    Oh for those days when life seemed so simple!

    Pathetically, I have been reduced to a shadow of the Addick who couldn't wait for the next match , whether home or away and for whom there would have been one subject of conversation with friends & family from August to May.

    During August and into September in past years, there has been a minor conflict between supporting my football club and my cricket team with the former inevitably being the winner.

    However, with the decision not to travel to both Sunderland and Accrington ( not totally for footballing reasons) I find myself making plans for more visits to Canterbury and Beckenham whilst a family break to Disneyland Paris has been arranged in October with another home game the casualty.

    A sad state of affairs indeed.

    Of course, I shall be at our Valley home for the Shrewsbury match & there are no plans to miss subsequent ones but my enthusiasm is flagging alarmingly at this moment in time.

    With matters on & off the pitch seemingly in total chaos, it could take something very special to rekindle "the love" and for Fanny's considerable, if saggy, loins to be girded once again.

    Oh for a knight on a white charger !

    Reg ! Where art thou ?
    Hey Buddy we both know too well that although CAFC is a big part of life and the part that is meant to take away the shit stuff we face and be the escape it hasnt been like that for a while, nut we both also know theres more to lose in life than the thrill of 3 points and the pride in the team,

    my advice Jean is to just focus on the real world stuff and let CAFC worry about its future theres not a jot any one can do to make RD sell any quicker if they dont front up the dough theres no sale the rest is all conjecture and bullshit peddled out deliberately to try and win favour from both sides

    RD will sell when someone makes the right offer and shows their money, his valuation is irrelavent it doesnt matter if we think itys too high, if its too high no one will bite and he will have to reconsider

    Fuck the takeover
    Maybe just feeling particularly low this morning & reading the report from the SLP seems to have opened the flood gates.

    Your post exudes common sense- something I've always lacked, letting my heart rule my head.

    Thanks for the good advice.
    We have both been feeling the 1st world pain stuff Jean CAFC just exagerates our euphoria or our sorrow, Its really not worth it

    i think the fans have done a great job rallying and forcing the old scroat to sell up and that has happened he is selling so be proud of that

    but we can do no more so do not let it over take whats important

    But your whole point NLA is that he isn’t selling, he wants to sell, but he is not putting a reasonable value on it.

    So why can’t we do more to make him realise that he has to sell at a lower price?

    In the UK I feel that this is limited but if we had people in Sint Truiden every week pushing the ROT agenda, that must be worth the effort.

    For too many months now we have thought the takeover was imminent but it may not be and the main reason is because while Duchatelet wants to sell, he doesn’t want to sell enough.


    He is selling ?

    the club is up for sale is it not,

    the valuation of CAFC is not for us to decide, he has had 2 offers in or around his valuation so as far as he is concerned he is in the correct ball park

    i aint saying stop doing whatever people wish to do to continue embarrasing him but he is a very very wealthy man and his financial clout is a big concern as i honestly believe that he is rich enough to make this very very difficult for us as fans and will go when he decides the time and the price is right, not when he has had enough of the gripes we cause
    So he's happy to lose x million per year as long as it pisses off a few fans?

    Seems like an even weirder individual than I thought if he's effectively willing to pay a "wind up Charlton fans" subscription service.


    He certainly has shown nothing to me prior to this situation to say he is anything other than a very rich Oddball and because of this why we expect him to act rationally or with the business accumin that others have pointed out as the best thing he can do

    the bloke is hell bent on fucking us over i am sure of it
    Is he? Or does he just want his asking price?

    If someone could complete a deal for£50m (or whatever he wants) today he'd sell. I don't believe he'd hang on for a few months to wind up Charlton fans.
    Thats not what i have suggested,

    if you read back its about the fact that there are people saying he has an unrealistic valaution, I am saying that may well be the case but RD is not bothered by that, so far 2 sets of people have offered his valuation or close enough to it to be willing to sell,

    but until the point of completion to his valuation he will just continue being a cock
    If they haven’t got the money it doesn’t really matter what price they agree, does it?
    you also know that i have never believed that they had the cash

    I do believe the Saudis did have the dough and the aussies putting their price forced them off and we both know that he has had substantial offers and enough to make him be willing to go
  • Do Trust members still believe, contrary to CARD, that protests are not appropriate because the sale is going through..... just asking?
  • JamesSeed said:

    Aussies deal has collapsed.

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    Red7Oak said:

    JamesSeed said:

    JamesSeed said:



    Scoham said:

    Click on it to read it. Basically says Keith Harris has been trying to find new investors so the takeover can go through, and that it’s unclear if that’s happened. If it hasn’t happened it says it’s in danger of collapsing.

    Ahem “Aussies ain’t got the money”

    Drops mic and walks away could’ve closed the thread in October
    Ah, so this is the famous ‘waving of the willy’ that I’ve heard so much about ;-)
    seems to be what the SLP are indicating @JamesSeed i think theres been so much dragging of heels that people interested have said i am off
    Fair play if you turned out to be right all along. As I’ve said I’ve only had very little info since the beer meeting, and none of that was financial.
    Of course we still don’t know definitively what’s going on, but I guess we’ll hear soon.
    If they’ve failed it’s a damned shame, because I think they had the potential to give us ‘proper’ ownership for the first time in years.
    I think anyone has the potential to give us 'proper' ownership but let's face initially it at the time of takeover we thought the same about RD and the spivs! :(
    The difference here being that no one knew them personally did they? (As far as I know).
    I wouldn’t have said those things if I didn’t know GM, who I know for a fact isn’t/wasn’t trying to make a land grab, at least.
    Apologies I didnt know you personally knew GM I thought your insight / opinion came from one of the lackey's who worked for him. Not withstanding that, in my opinion, and bar telling people snippets of what they want to hear, Someone would have to know someone extremely well to share detailed information about their business plans especially parts that they might not want out in the public domain! And especially to someone that may allude to knowing / sharing such on a public forum such as CL! :).
  • How do people know about the Saudis? Genuine question.
  • Red7Oak said:

    JamesSeed said:

    Aussies deal has collapsed.

    ?
    Red7Oak said:

    JamesSeed said:

    JamesSeed said:



    Scoham said:

    Click on it to read it. Basically says Keith Harris has been trying to find new investors so the takeover can go through, and that it’s unclear if that’s happened. If it hasn’t happened it says it’s in danger of collapsing.

    Ahem “Aussies ain’t got the money”

    Drops mic and walks away could’ve closed the thread in October
    Ah, so this is the famous ‘waving of the willy’ that I’ve heard so much about ;-)
    seems to be what the SLP are indicating @JamesSeed i think theres been so much dragging of heels that people interested have said i am off
    Fair play if you turned out to be right all along. As I’ve said I’ve only had very little info since the beer meeting, and none of that was financial.
    Of course we still don’t know definitively what’s going on, but I guess we’ll hear soon.
    If they’ve failed it’s a damned shame, because I think they had the potential to give us ‘proper’ ownership for the first time in years.
    I think anyone has the potential to give us 'proper' ownership but let's face initially it at the time of takeover we thought the same about RD and the spivs! :(
    The difference here being that no one knew them personally did they? (As far as I know).
    I wouldn’t have said those things if I didn’t know GM, who I know for a fact isn’t/wasn’t trying to make a land grab, at least.
    Apologies I didnt know you personally knew GM I thought your insight / opinion came from one of the lackey's who worked for him. Not withstanding that, in my opinion, and bar telling people snippets of what they want to hear, Someone would have to know someone extremely well to share detailed information about their business plans especially parts that they might not want out in the public domain! And especially to someone that may allude to knowing / sharing such on a public forum such as CL! :).
    I like this logic.

    No criticism of @JamesSeed, you are entitled to believe who you want. but there is one thing i dont get - you have found confidence in the fact GM told you he has spent 2 years and 2 Million quid on due diligence. given the failure to complete, why does this inspire confidence? it inspires precisely the opposite in me - namely that he is lying or that he is incompetent. seems to be no other logical option.
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