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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955

    Done deal according to this.

    https://derijkstebelgen.be/nieuws/nieuw-roland-duchatelet-pompt-80-miljoen-verlieslatend-vastgoed-stayen/

    + I didn't know Roland had such a close association with the Japanese porn industry.

    Bloody hell, he's losing money left, right and centre - not his fault though I expect.

    The same site reported he sold Charlton on 21st June, which we know isn't true.

    https://derijkstebelgen.be/nieuws/duchatelet-verkoopt-vermaledijde-charlton/
    So I clicked the link, and then the Google translate button:
    "Duchâtelet sells damned Charlton"

    Their reporter must be just as disillusioned with Charlton as we are.

    .
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Charlton fan "Everywhere the light touches is our Valley kingdom son"

    "What about that shadowy place dad?"

    "That's beyond our borders. You must never go to Duchatelet's bunker."

    "Why is Roland such a Bell end Dad ?"

    "Because he has illusions of grandeur and a evil plan to sell our academy children to the highest bidder and take his 20% when they are sold on again.

    "What's in it for us Dad ?"

    "Darkness son, just darkness."
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,208

    To cover losses and allow future investment.

    It say he recently sold Charlton.

    Charlton has been sold and we missed it...and we thought they were dragging their feet...IT’S HAPPENED!
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    WIOTO derijkstebelgen.

  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,459
    One does get the impression that to his eyes it's finished.
    Hes letting lawyers sort over the final details.
    He's pretty much walked.
  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,221

    One does get the impression that to his eyes it's finished.
    Hes letting lawyers sort over the final details.
    He's pretty much walked.

    Yes i get that feeling too. Fingers crossed lads. Is today the day????
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    Curb_It said:

    One does get the impression that to his eyes it's finished.
    Hes letting lawyers sort over the final details.
    He's pretty much walked.

    Yes i get that feeling too. Fingers crossed lads. Is today the day????
    No :-(
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    Curb_It said:

    One does get the impression that to his eyes it's finished.
    Hes letting lawyers sort over the final details.
    He's pretty much walked.

    Yes i get that feeling too. Fingers crossed lads. Is today the day????
    Remember, Curb_It ...... "it's the hope that kills you." :smile:
  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,221
    edited July 2018
    JamesSeed said:

    Curb_It said:

    One does get the impression that to his eyes it's finished.
    Hes letting lawyers sort over the final details.
    He's pretty much walked.

    Yes i get that feeling too. Fingers crossed lads. Is today the day????
    No :-(
    Oh well. At least i can get on with some work then. But the sad face is a bit worrying.

    The hope didn't last too long there Oggster after JS' post.
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  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    I think the main question is if, and it is a big if, Roland has walked are the Aussies ready to step in and get their wallets out because they seem reluctant up to now.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,335

    I think the main question is if, and it is a big if, Roland has walked are the Aussies ready to step in and get their wallets out because they seem reluctant up to now.

    What brings you to say that they're reluctant to "get their wallets out"? Is it simply that the sale hasn't yet been completed? (In which case you could say that about any of the supposed "number" of consortia that have been in talks). Or do you have information that indicates that a price has been agreed, all legal issues have been finalised and the only hold up is that the Aussie consortium has refused to complete the agreed deal?
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    Curb_It said:

    JamesSeed said:

    Curb_It said:

    One does get the impression that to his eyes it's finished.
    Hes letting lawyers sort over the final details.
    He's pretty much walked.

    Yes i get that feeling too. Fingers crossed lads. Is today the day????
    No :-(
    Oh well. At least i can get on with some work then. But the sad face is a bit worrying.

    The hope didn't last too long there Oggster after JS' post.
    Oh well, it wouldn't be the first time, Curb_It. Good job it's "Feckit Friday".


  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,053
    Oggy Red said:

    That same Belgian website( translated by Google) says:

    "Former CEO Katrien Meire, called "Nightmeire" by the supporters ......."





    https://derijkstebelgen.be/nieuws/duchatelet-verkoopt-vermaledijde-charlton/

    Voormalig CEO Katrien Meire, door de supporters “Nightmeire” genoemd, vertrok eerder al bij Charlton, zij is nu aan de slag bij Sheffield Wednesday.

    Bit harsh calling her a "Nightmeire" and "the slag of the Massives"!!!! :wink:
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,807
    I'm getting the feeling that this will drag on to September, no light at the end of the tunnel. Under resourced squad till Christmas, hopefully the likes of Taylor get through to Christmas without a major injury.
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198
    edited July 2018

    So from that article he is raising 80m capital in his Stayen company? why?

    That's not quite what it said. (If the translator works). He's actually created €80mn new shares BUT only 25% paid. So, €20mn new money. (Not sure whether that means quarter paid or only quarter issued.)The rest can be put in at his leisure or not at all.
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Chizz said:

    I think the main question is if, and it is a big if, Roland has walked are the Aussies ready to step in and get their wallets out because they seem reluctant up to now.

    What brings you to say that they're reluctant to "get their wallets out"? Is it simply that the sale hasn't yet been completed? (In which case you could say that about any of the supposed "number" of consortia that have been in talks). Or do you have information that indicates that a price has been agreed, all legal issues have been finalised and the only hold up is that the Aussie consortium has refused to complete the agreed deal?
    No insider info Chizz, just a gut feeling. If Muir was asking me to be one of the investors my two main questions would be what is the risk & when will I see a return on my money.

    He must be struggling to answer those questions at the moment looking at the state of the club and sadly things appear to be getting worse by the week if the rumours are to be believed.







  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380

    I think the main question is if, and it is a big if, Roland has walked are the Aussies ready to step in and get their wallets out because they seem reluctant up to now.

    No of course they’re not ready. It’d be crazy to think they would be. This process has only just begun after all.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    Does he actually say anything that is remotely relevant to the sale of CAFC ?
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  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,825
    cafcfan said:

    So from that article he is raising 80m capital in his Stayen company? why?

    That's not quite what it said. (If the translator works). He's actually created €80mn new shares BUT only 25% paid. So, €20mn new money. (Not sure whether that means quarter paid or only quarter issued.)The rest can be put in at his leisure or not at all.
    so HE has injected more money into Stayen @cafcfan, not brought in more money from outside (diluting his holding)?

    is that correct?
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    Uboat said:

    cafcfan said:

    cafcfan said:

    I like this lights stuff.
    My car's got adaptive headlights so surely it would be quite easy to have adaptive floodlights at the ground?
    Only light up the bit of the pitch where there's any activity. Although I suppose the opposition goalkeeper might get a bit hacked off being in total darkness all match.

    The keeper can move around and make himself busy , maybe do what dazzlers possibly gonna do once the takeover happens
    He'd have to take his gloves off though wouldn't he? Hey there's another cost cutting measure right there - don't buy gloves for the keeper. Totally unnecessary.

    image
    I don't want to disparage the great man, but that just looks like an uncoordinated person falling over.
    Mate, that was just take 7
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198
    edited July 2018

    cafcfan said:

    So from that article he is raising 80m capital in his Stayen company? why?

    That's not quite what it said. (If the translator works). He's actually created €80mn new shares BUT only 25% paid. So, €20mn new money. (Not sure whether that means quarter paid or only quarter issued.)The rest can be put in at his leisure or not at all.
    so HE has injected more money into Stayen @cafcfan, not brought in more money from outside (diluting his holding)?

    is that correct?
    That was my reading. But again, could be lost in translation. Edited to add: I think the bit at the end is likely to be a journo getting the wrong end of the stick. I doubt there's €80mn "fresh money" transferred from elsewhere.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380

    Chizz said:

    I think the main question is if, and it is a big if, Roland has walked are the Aussies ready to step in and get their wallets out because they seem reluctant up to now.

    What brings you to say that they're reluctant to "get their wallets out"? Is it simply that the sale hasn't yet been completed? (In which case you could say that about any of the supposed "number" of consortia that have been in talks). Or do you have information that indicates that a price has been agreed, all legal issues have been finalised and the only hold up is that the Aussie consortium has refused to complete the agreed deal?
    No insider info Chizz, just a gut feeling. If Muir was asking me to be one of the investors my two main questions would be what is the risk & when will I see a return on my money.

    He must be struggling to answer those questions at the moment looking at the state of the club and sadly things appear to be getting worse by the week if the rumours are to be believed.

    Sorry, but this just way off the mark. The current state of the club has absolutely nothing to do with it.
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    JamesSeed said:

    Chizz said:

    I think the main question is if, and it is a big if, Roland has walked are the Aussies ready to step in and get their wallets out because they seem reluctant up to now.

    What brings you to say that they're reluctant to "get their wallets out"? Is it simply that the sale hasn't yet been completed? (In which case you could say that about any of the supposed "number" of consortia that have been in talks). Or do you have information that indicates that a price has been agreed, all legal issues have been finalised and the only hold up is that the Aussie consortium has refused to complete the agreed deal?
    No insider info Chizz, just a gut feeling. If Muir was asking me to be one of the investors my two main questions would be what is the risk & when will I see a return on my money.

    He must be struggling to answer those questions at the moment looking at the state of the club and sadly things appear to be getting worse by the week if the rumours are to be believed.

    Sorry, but this just way off the mark. The current state of the club has absolutely nothing to do with it.
    Good then I am happy to be proved wrong. I am sure all will be revealed one day James so we can all see for ourselves what has really gone on instead of all the "in the know" gossip.
  • lolwray
    lolwray Posts: 4,900
    Uboat said:

    cafcfan said:

    cafcfan said:

    I like this lights stuff.
    My car's got adaptive headlights so surely it would be quite easy to have adaptive floodlights at the ground?
    Only light up the bit of the pitch where there's any activity. Although I suppose the opposition goalkeeper might get a bit hacked off being in total darkness all match.

    The keeper can move around and make himself busy , maybe do what dazzlers possibly gonna do once the takeover happens
    He'd have to take his gloves off though wouldn't he? Hey there's another cost cutting measure right there - don't buy gloves for the keeper. Totally unnecessary.

    image
    I don't want to disparage the great man, but that just looks like an uncoordinated person falling over.
    looks to me he has still got his curlers in
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,053
    JamesSeed said:

    Chizz said:

    I think the main question is if, and it is a big if, Roland has walked are the Aussies ready to step in and get their wallets out because they seem reluctant up to now.

    What brings you to say that they're reluctant to "get their wallets out"? Is it simply that the sale hasn't yet been completed? (In which case you could say that about any of the supposed "number" of consortia that have been in talks). Or do you have information that indicates that a price has been agreed, all legal issues have been finalised and the only hold up is that the Aussie consortium has refused to complete the agreed deal?
    No insider info Chizz, just a gut feeling. If Muir was asking me to be one of the investors my two main questions would be what is the risk & when will I see a return on my money.

    He must be struggling to answer those questions at the moment looking at the state of the club and sadly things appear to be getting worse by the week if the rumours are to be believed.

    Sorry, but this just way off the mark. The current state of the club has absolutely nothing to do with it.
    Agreed. If you're prepared to pay the rumoured amount that Duchatelet wants - and his own right-hand man has suggested that the price is agreed - then you are buying potential and not the current business.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955

    Just to remind some of us what we've been through and why we are Charlton:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujPvX1FW9lg

  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380

    JamesSeed said:

    Chizz said:

    I think the main question is if, and it is a big if, Roland has walked are the Aussies ready to step in and get their wallets out because they seem reluctant up to now.

    What brings you to say that they're reluctant to "get their wallets out"? Is it simply that the sale hasn't yet been completed? (In which case you could say that about any of the supposed "number" of consortia that have been in talks). Or do you have information that indicates that a price has been agreed, all legal issues have been finalised and the only hold up is that the Aussie consortium has refused to complete the agreed deal?
    No insider info Chizz, just a gut feeling. If Muir was asking me to be one of the investors my two main questions would be what is the risk & when will I see a return on my money.

    He must be struggling to answer those questions at the moment looking at the state of the club and sadly things appear to be getting worse by the week if the rumours are to be believed.

    Sorry, but this just way off the mark. The current state of the club has absolutely nothing to do with it.
    Good then I am happy to be proved wrong. I am sure all will be revealed one day James so we can all see for ourselves what has really gone on instead of all the "in the know" gossip.
    Sorry, didn’t mean to sound snappy.
    I’m very keen not to be seen as ITK and always pass on anything I get from GM that’s appropriate. I’ve today asked for a hint about timescale, but doubt very much that I’ll get one.
    WIOTOS, unfortunately.
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,224
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