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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • This is an utter shambles of a situation.

    If the Aussies don’t complete it within the next week the next season is a wash out.

    So angry with it.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,033
    The thing about not being allowed to turn lights on for meetings, that’s not actually true, is it?
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,824
    I’ll add, if 9 months ago it was announced Roland had sold I’dhave been pretty sure I would have been in a packed pub that evening celebrating like we’d won a Millwall game.

    It it was announced today, it will probably generate no more than an ‘at last’ muttering.

    I’m still not convinced whether a takeover or a win vs Millwall will come first.

    They might end up with similar waits...
  • _MrDick
    _MrDick Posts: 13,103

    I think everyone is going to be surprised by how few people actually come back and buy season tickets.

    Yep. Outside of those that still contribute on social media who add that opinion, I’m convinced there are not thousands waiting with their cheque books at the ready.

    It’s a massive rebuild job. It can be done, and I’m sure it will, but it will take time.
    I can remember when we signed Allan Simonsen. Mark Hulyer thought the rush for tickets was going to pay for his wages. If memory serves me correctly, we only sold a few hundred
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,021
    Dave2l said:

    My inside source tells me the deal will likely be announced just after the Norwich game. Didn't even know we was playing Norwich

    Hooray, Roly Rollmops dace are numbered!
  • Pedro45
    Pedro45 Posts: 5,820
    _MrDick said:

    I think everyone is going to be surprised by how few people actually come back and buy season tickets.

    Yep. Outside of those that still contribute on social media who add that opinion, I’m convinced there are not thousands waiting with their cheque books at the ready.

    It’s a massive rebuild job. It can be done, and I’m sure it will, but it will take time.
    I can remember when we signed Allan Simonsen. Mark Hulyer thought the rush for tickets was going to pay for his wages. If memory serves me correctly, we only sold a few hundred
    Simo added 5,000 to the gates in his first few games, and even the one he did not play in due to injury! That was double what we used to get at that time....
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    se9addick said:

    The thing about not being allowed to turn lights on for meetings, that’s not actually true, is it?

    @LouisMend is certain it’s true.



  • TellyTubby
    TellyTubby Posts: 3,550
    JamesSeed said:

    JamesSeed said:
    So we are waiting for GM to rent his house out to raise enough funds to buy Charlton?

    Share the f#%&k out of the advert to get this deal done.
    That’s not his house.
    You've only gone and spoilt my joke with a fact. You have been posting on this thread long enough now to know that facts aren't welcome.
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,885
    se9addick said:

    The thing about not being allowed to turn lights on for meetings, that’s not actually true, is it?

    I’d like to know the truth behind this headline too. Most businesses from time to time have a push to drive costs down and encourage staff to be mindful of energy wastage, paper wastage etc. We are currently a failing business after all so doing nothing on costs is not a strategy. What exactly have they been asked to do?

    Likewise the loss of nutritional breakfasts. Again have we ditched platters of fresh fruit and individual diet plans or just stopped providing porridge when they want it?

    Messages like this make sensational headlines like the Man Utd Kit is now nearly £200 but in reality the shirt was still c£60.

    The truth would be good in order to interpret the actual impact. Maybe it’s all true but I don’t want to rely on the headline.

    And maybe all irrelevant if the takeover happens anyway.
  • Arsenetatters
    Arsenetatters Posts: 5,971
    edited July 2018

    I’ll add, if 9 months ago it was announced Roland had sold I’dhave been pretty sure I would have been in a packed pub that evening celebrating like we’d won a Millwall game.

    It it was announced today, it will probably generate no more than an ‘at last’ muttering.

    I’m still not convinced whether a takeover or a win vs Millwall will come first.

    They might end up with similar waits...

    I agree. I think it's gone on for so long and there have been too many false dawns. IF the takeover happens this side of September I wonder how many people will wait to see how the new owners are doing before returning. Can I stand getting back that feeling I used to have for my club incase it's taken away again?
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  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380

    I’ll add, if 9 months ago it was announced Roland had sold I’dhave been pretty sure I would have been in a packed pub that evening celebrating like we’d won a Millwall game.

    It it was announced today, it will probably generate no more than an ‘at last’ muttering.

    I’m still not convinced whether a takeover or a win vs Millwall will come first.

    They might end up with similar waits...

    You're such an old misery ;-)
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,801
    JamesSeed said:

    I’ll add, if 9 months ago it was announced Roland had sold I’dhave been pretty sure I would have been in a packed pub that evening celebrating like we’d won a Millwall game.

    It it was announced today, it will probably generate no more than an ‘at last’ muttering.

    I’m still not convinced whether a takeover or a win vs Millwall will come first.

    They might end up with similar waits...

    You're such an old misery ;-)
    But we keep being told it’s close, it seems no closer today then it did on May 17th.

    They’ll be relief when it’s done, but the celebratory mood of May has long gone
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,668
    Rothko said:

    JamesSeed said:

    I’ll add, if 9 months ago it was announced Roland had sold I’dhave been pretty sure I would have been in a packed pub that evening celebrating like we’d won a Millwall game.

    It it was announced today, it will probably generate no more than an ‘at last’ muttering.

    I’m still not convinced whether a takeover or a win vs Millwall will come first.

    They might end up with similar waits...

    You're such an old misery ;-)
    But we keep being told it’s close, it seems no closer today then it did on May 17th.

    They’ll be relief when it’s done, but the celebratory mood of May has long gone
    Totally agree.
    Some even claimed it was a done deal in February.
    Can't blame people being fed up with the whole affair.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219
    edited July 2018
    se9addick said:

    The thing about not being allowed to turn lights on for meetings, that’s not actually true, is it?

    Yes it is as is not being allowed to eat at their desks to save cleaners wages and no paper hand towels in toilets.
  • TellyTubby
    TellyTubby Posts: 3,550

    In the mid 70's when Michael Gliksten was the owner we played Port Vale at home in the 3rd tier and from memory I thought there was under 4 thousand.
    No social media, just local papers, phones and word of mouth.
    Fans stop going when they see no ambition from owners plus we sold players from 65 to 75 that could have held there own in the top tier if we had a decent owner.
    Bailey, Bonds, Glover, Campbell, Moore, kenning, Flanagan, Hales plus others coming into an established side.

    I can assure younger fans we have been here before, the difference is we've a decent stadium now not a crumbling wreak of a ground.

    IF we can only see the back of this flawed experiment then Adults can make their own minds up whether to invest their time, money and emotions in Cafc.

    I think our lowest valley attendance back then was little more than 3k v Halifax on a Tuesday evening.

    I got Stanleyed as I was close to leaving the top of Marion Wilson park. Don't know who attacked me but they weren't at the match. I guess millwall.

    I never for once thought about not going again even though my artery was very close to being severed. Just shows that Roland is more destructive than a bunch of thugs with knives.

    Apathy is a strong force and we shouldn't underestimate it.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380

    Rothko said:

    JamesSeed said:

    I’ll add, if 9 months ago it was announced Roland had sold I’dhave been pretty sure I would have been in a packed pub that evening celebrating like we’d won a Millwall game.

    It it was announced today, it will probably generate no more than an ‘at last’ muttering.

    I’m still not convinced whether a takeover or a win vs Millwall will come first.

    They might end up with similar waits...

    You're such an old misery ;-)
    But we keep being told it’s close, it seems no closer today then it did on May 17th.

    They’ll be relief when it’s done, but the celebratory mood of May has long gone
    Totally agree.
    Some even claimed it was a done deal in February.
    Can't blame people being fed up with the whole affair.
    We need to take a step back and look at the bigger picture. The club’s trajectory has been downwards for four years, probably a lot longer. It was never going to be as simple as pressing a button and ‘lift off!’.
    I think we might be about to halt The Long Decline (obscure band reference there), and at least head the club slowly, oil tanker-like, back in the right direction.
    This isn’t an instant gratification scenario, unfortunately.

    *steps back, ducks for cover under the parapet*
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,983
    JamesSeed said:

    Rothko said:

    JamesSeed said:

    I’ll add, if 9 months ago it was announced Roland had sold I’dhave been pretty sure I would have been in a packed pub that evening celebrating like we’d won a Millwall game.

    It it was announced today, it will probably generate no more than an ‘at last’ muttering.

    I’m still not convinced whether a takeover or a win vs Millwall will come first.

    They might end up with similar waits...

    You're such an old misery ;-)
    But we keep being told it’s close, it seems no closer today then it did on May 17th.

    They’ll be relief when it’s done, but the celebratory mood of May has long gone
    Totally agree.
    Some even claimed it was a done deal in February.
    Can't blame people being fed up with the whole affair.
    We need to take a step back and look at the bigger picture. The club’s trajectory has been downwards for four years, probably a lot longer. It was never going to be as simple as pressing a button and ‘lift off!’.
    I think we might be about to halt The Long Decline (obscure band reference there), and at least head the club slowly, oil tanker-like, back in the right direction.
    This isn’t an instant gratification scenario, unfortunately.

    *steps back, ducks for cover under the parapet*
    To turn the ‘tanker’ you need to buy the effing club. The Aussies don’t even appear to be in the Port let alone have their hands on the wheel.
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,824
    JamesSeed said:

    I’ll add, if 9 months ago it was announced Roland had sold I’dhave been pretty sure I would have been in a packed pub that evening celebrating like we’d won a Millwall game.

    It it was announced today, it will probably generate no more than an ‘at last’ muttering.

    I’m still not convinced whether a takeover or a win vs Millwall will come first.

    They might end up with similar waits...

    You're such an old misery ;-)
    That may be true.

    But you’ve only got another two days before your good vibrations go Surfin USA for the 20th time.

    Wouldn’t it be nice if you were right :-)
  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,219

    se9addick said:

    The thing about not being allowed to turn lights on for meetings, that’s not actually true, is it?

    Yes it is as is not being allowed to eat at their desks to save cleaners wages and no paper hand towels in toilets.
    Have they supplied cloth towels then? Is someone tasked to take home to wash daily?

    Must be a grim old place to work.
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  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380

    JamesSeed said:

    I’ll add, if 9 months ago it was announced Roland had sold I’dhave been pretty sure I would have been in a packed pub that evening celebrating like we’d won a Millwall game.

    It it was announced today, it will probably generate no more than an ‘at last’ muttering.

    I’m still not convinced whether a takeover or a win vs Millwall will come first.

    They might end up with similar waits...

    You're such an old misery ;-)
    That may be true.

    But you’ve only got another two days before your good vibrations go Surfin USA for the 20th time.

    Wouldn’t it be nice if you were right :-)
    Oh god, I didn’t predict a date did I?!
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    Valley11 said:

    JamesSeed said:

    Rothko said:

    JamesSeed said:

    I’ll add, if 9 months ago it was announced Roland had sold I’dhave been pretty sure I would have been in a packed pub that evening celebrating like we’d won a Millwall game.

    It it was announced today, it will probably generate no more than an ‘at last’ muttering.

    I’m still not convinced whether a takeover or a win vs Millwall will come first.

    They might end up with similar waits...

    You're such an old misery ;-)
    But we keep being told it’s close, it seems no closer today then it did on May 17th.

    They’ll be relief when it’s done, but the celebratory mood of May has long gone
    Totally agree.
    Some even claimed it was a done deal in February.
    Can't blame people being fed up with the whole affair.
    We need to take a step back and look at the bigger picture. The club’s trajectory has been downwards for four years, probably a lot longer. It was never going to be as simple as pressing a button and ‘lift off!’.
    I think we might be about to halt The Long Decline (obscure band reference there), and at least head the club slowly, oil tanker-like, back in the right direction.
    This isn’t an instant gratification scenario, unfortunately.

    *steps back, ducks for cover under the parapet*
    To turn the ‘tanker’ you need to buy the effing club. The Aussies don’t even appear to be in the Port let alone have their hands on the wheel.
    So it’s all the Aussies’ fault that the club was in such a legal mess?

    I’m pretty sure if they’d bought any other club it would have been done and dusted a long time ago.

    Remember the fine words of the great Russell Slade (but leave out the Louis bit).
  • PeterGage
    PeterGage Posts: 1,793
    With the news regarding the cost cutting measures, it has expunged one myth put out by some non- boycotters. Namely that witholding monies from RD makes little or no difference.

    I am almost tempted to trawl old posts to "name and shame", but on second thoughts I realise I am getting grumpy because of the ongoing situation -)
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    edited July 2018

    In the mid 70's when Michael Gliksten was the owner we played Port Vale at home in the 3rd tier and from memory I thought there was under 4 thousand.
    No social media, just local papers, phones and word of mouth.
    Fans stop going when they see no ambition from owners plus we sold players from 65 to 75 that could have held there own in the top tier if we had a decent owner.
    Bailey, Bonds, Glover, Campbell, Moore, kenning, Flanagan, Hales plus others coming into an established side.

    I can assure younger fans we have been here before, the difference is we've a decent stadium now not a crumbling wreak of a ground.

    IF we can only see the back of this flawed experiment then Adults can make their own minds up whether to invest their time, money and emotions in Cafc.

    I think our lowest valley attendance back then was little more than 3k v Halifax on a Tuesday evening.

    I got Stanleyed as I was close to leaving the top of Marion Wilson park. Don't know who attacked me but they weren't at the match. I guess millwall.

    I never for once thought about not going again even though my artery was very close to being severed. Just shows that Roland is more destructive than a bunch of thugs with knives.

    Apathy is a strong force and we shouldn't underestimate it.
    I think maybe the Halifax game and not Port Vale was the match that I was trying to remember from over 40 years ago !
    I can recall the Spartan isolation of the terracing.
  • lolwray
    lolwray Posts: 4,899
    the seafaring metaphors are better than the fish puns anyway
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    edited July 2018
    Never mind about withholding money, fans should add to costs.
    Maybe we could start with a campaign of faxing them black paper documents with a tiny white bit so as to use up their printer ink.
    Another campaign is to purchase stuff especially food, then demand money back because it is vile.
    If they are concerned about costs of cleaning stuff well extra dirt might keep cleaners in employment.

    A lot of savings could be made by sacking Cojones and sending his car back.

    Mr Belgian guy this is the trajectory:

    Informal verbal warning.
    Formal verbal warning.
    Written warning.
    Final warning.
    Dismissal.

  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    lolwray said:

    the seafaring metaphors are better than the fish puns anyway

    When the Seagulls follow the trawler it is because they think Sardines will be thrown.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219
    edited July 2018
    Curb_It said:

    se9addick said:

    The thing about not being allowed to turn lights on for meetings, that’s not actually true, is it?

    Yes it is as is not being allowed to eat at their desks to save cleaners wages and no paper hand towels in toilets.
    Have they supplied cloth towels then? Is someone tasked to take home to wash daily?

    Must be a grim old place to work.
    No, electric dryers which I would have thought more expensive but this is penny wise, pound foolish management Duchatelet style.
  • JamesSeed said:

    I’ll add, if 9 months ago it was announced Roland had sold I’dhave been pretty sure I would have been in a packed pub that evening celebrating like we’d won a Millwall game.

    It it was announced today, it will probably generate no more than an ‘at last’ muttering.

    I’m still not convinced whether a takeover or a win vs Millwall will come first.

    They might end up with similar waits...

    You're such an old misery ;-)
    That may be true.

    But you’ve only got another two days before your good vibrations go Surfin USA for the 20th time.

    Wouldn’t it be nice if you were right :-)
    surfin USA, 20th ? Sweet little sixteen surely...
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