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Spot onnth london addick said:
You cant hit what you cant catchbobmunro said:
I'm pretty sure he wouldn't beat AJ.StewieGriffinSE7 said:Fury fanboys still living off of his one glory night in Germany which was literally all they have too talk about. He beat Klitschko in the worst heavyweight title fight of my entire lifetime. I’m sure the stats showed Fury landing something like 23% of the 100 punches he threw and that is considered the prime version of Fury... I’m far from convinced that he beats AJ
Don't underestimate Tyson though - he's a much better boxer than most observers credit him being.
I believe tyson would beat AJ and based on the Klitchko fight and the Takam fight i have no reason to change that view0 -
There's a few moving parts to this, Tyson Fury needs to get fit and active again more than anything else.blackpool72 said:
Spot onnth london addick said:
You cant hit what you cant catchbobmunro said:
I'm pretty sure he wouldn't beat AJ.StewieGriffinSE7 said:Fury fanboys still living off of his one glory night in Germany which was literally all they have too talk about. He beat Klitschko in the worst heavyweight title fight of my entire lifetime. I’m sure the stats showed Fury landing something like 23% of the 100 punches he threw and that is considered the prime version of Fury... I’m far from convinced that he beats AJ
Don't underestimate Tyson though - he's a much better boxer than most observers credit him being.
I believe tyson would beat AJ and based on the Klitchko fight and the Takam fight i have no reason to change that view
I'm not a Tyson Fury fan, in fact I think he looks like a baby Deer with his footwork BUT he beat the champ, the main man that nobody could even test for a very long time and he made it look easy. Until someone beats Fury they are not the champ in my eyes.
Nothing against Anthony Joshua at all, he's a great role model and seems a genuinely decent man. I wasn't as blown away by his performance in beating Wlad as a lot of people were, I thought Wlad let him off the hook massively and he showed some massive frailties. I've said a fit David Haye sparks Joshua but I think those days are gone, and whilst I expect Haye to beat Bellew I think at 38 we won't be seeing him again after that fight.
Fury, Jarrel Miller (like what I've seen but he's yet to eat at the big table), Wilder are all fights Joshua could well lose due to how upright and one dimensional he is.1 -
dont know how much truth there is to this was sent it from a mate;
it was a article on aj;
Anthony’s father is half Nigerian, half Irish Robert who is now an ex of his mother. A difficult youth, he fell in with a bad crowd, and was sent to boarding school in West Africa in an effort to curb his enthusiasm for drink, drugs and petty crime. It didn’t work, however. He left after just one term and returned to the local Kings Langley secondary, before quitting full-time education at 16. A fine athlete, he could run 100m in under 11 seconds despite being a smoker and was a talented footballer who had trials for Charlton Athletic.0 -
Wilder destroys Stiverne, knocking him down 3 times in the first round.
Time for Wilder to start facing decent opponents, Stiverne looked like he hadn't even bothered training and had just stepped out of the crowd. In fact, if they'd picked a random bloke out of the crowd, he couldn't have done much worse.1 -
Anyone watch the Monte Carlo show? Strange watching with those chandeliers hanging!
The bought the comms pair were over bigging up the German fighting Chisora, and thought Eubank got a bit of a promoters decision from his1 -
That Aussie guy getting sparked was funny. Thought he was special. Bivol didn't break a sweat.
Eubank wasn't anything special.
Anyone catch the Wilder fight? Heard he looked good0 -
Stiverne looks like he had been on the piss for 3 months, last night included.2
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Pointless bout.stonewallpenalty said:Stiverne looks like he had been on the piss for 3 months, last night included.
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Nothing proved in the Wilder fight at all other than Stiverne has not trained for that fight at all not properly trained
Tyson has 9 stone to shift and if he can come in around 17stone he beats them all
If AJ fights wilder above 17 stone he loses
Wilder AJ fury all beat Parker
Eddies dream ticket is
AJ vs Parker = AJ wins
Wilder vs Miller = wilder wins
AJ vs Wilder 50/50 fight that i would expect AJ to lose but it may well go his way
Fury will sign for Hearn
Either AJ or Wilder to fight fury
Fury wins and retires
AJ come back vs wilder for all the belts and AJ wins
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Are you saying Fury is currently about 26 stone?0
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All this would be dream tickets for all of them, including Hearn!nth london addick said:Nothing proved in the Wilder fight at all other than Stiverne has not trained for that fight at all not properly trained
Tyson has 9 stone to shift and if he can come in around 17stone he beats them all
If AJ fights wilder above 17 stone he loses
Wilder AJ fury all beat Parker
Eddies dream ticket is
AJ vs Parker = AJ wins
Wilder vs Miller = wilder wins
AJ vs Wilder 50/50 fight that i would expect AJ to lose but it may well go his way
Fury will sign for Hearn
Either AJ or Wilder to fight fury
Fury wins and retires
AJ come back vs wilder for all the belts and AJ wins
I think AJ beats Wilder but would be a close call.
Can’t see Fury fighting again though - hope I’m wrong.0 -
At least!AFKABartram said:Are you saying Fury is currently about 26 stone?
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I can see Fury fighting again, but never at top level.
Not sure physically or mentally he will ever have the discipline again to get into peak condition without getting injured or losing focus0 -
How the hell did Wilder at this stage of his career get matched with a 39-yr old who hadn't fought for 2 years???0
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Luis Ortiz failed a drug test again. Late replacement.AFKABartram said:How the hell did Wilder at this stage of his career get matched with a 39-yr old who hadn't fought for 2 years???
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Bob he is going to be back 100% two warm up fights one prob against Del Boy again them the big one by xmas next yr1
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Dan last time I was with him and his brother he weighed 27 stone this was pre Marbella and the last fuck about by the bbboc
I think he is around 25.-26 stone currently
But remember he used to go to 22 stone regular inbetween fights
If he can fight at 20 for the first warm up bout then by the Del Boy be around 18 stone he will be ready
Remember this Daniel Debois beats them all once the kid has been through the lessons needed and Tyson knows that so he has 12-18months to get the belts
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Tyson said last night he is 25 stone. Needs to lose 7 stone to fight.
Made a point about going into a fight even a stone heavy is a disaster. Mentioned both Chisora and Stiverne in that.
He seems in a much better place now.
Well worth watching the interview, hard to argue with anything he says.0 - Sponsored links:
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He does seem a lot more like his old self.stackitsteve said:Tyson said last night he is 25 stone. Needs to lose 7 stone to fight.
Made a point about going into a fight even a stone heavy is a disaster. Mentioned both Chisora and Stiverne in that.
He seems in a much better place now.
Well worth watching the interview, hard to argue with anything he says.0 -
Tyson is a really good guy I have said it before and it’s still the same , when he beat klitchko he found it difficult to emulate that moment again he never received the credit for that fight that he should and a lot of that is due to Tyson being the controversial sod that he likes to be
He quit after that fight in his own mind he had reached the top and was done his whole life’s work was finished from bin man to undisputed heavy weight champ and as such he began to live a life that he had never done before due to him being a professional boxer
His drink and drug issues were out of fight issues not great i know for he was still in the game and not retired , he also like a lot of sportsmen has suffered from issues mentally and has found himself in dark places , but these are gone that’s for sure
I like him a lot he is a genuine thoughtful and compassionate man has time for everyone and never refuses a photo or an autograph from anyone
There’s not many who are involved in boxing who do not recognise that Tyson Fury is the real deal it’s those outside that mock him
I spend time in and around gyms up and down the country watching the guys we sponser spar and train and the conversation always comes down to AJ Tyson and wilder the common thought is that a fit Tyson beats all of them
But more give wilder the better of AJ than you’d imagine
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Not wrong about Daniel Dubois, the kid is the real deal and still only 20 years old, has everything AJ has in power, precision and build but seems to be a bit more agile in his movement. A lot to learn but looking forward to following his careernth london addick said:Dan last time I was with him and his brother he weighed 27 stone this was pre Marbella and the last fuck about by the bbboc
I think he is around 25.-26 stone currently
But remember he used to go to 22 stone regular inbetween fights
If he can fight at 20 for the first warm up bout then by the Del Boy be around 18 stone he will be ready
Remember this Daniel Debois beats them all once the kid has been through the lessons needed and Tyson knows that so he has 12-18months to get the belts0 -
DD is the real deal mate he has the footwork to match an absolute insane natural freakish power0
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Brilliant post.nth london addick said:Tyson is a really good guy I have said it before and it’s still the same , when he beat klitchko he found it difficult to emulate that moment again he never received the credit for that fight that he should and a lot of that is due to Tyson being the controversial sod that he likes to be
He quit after that fight in his own mind he had reached the top and was done his whole life’s work was finished from bin man to undisputed heavy weight champ and as such he began to live a life that he had never done before due to him being a professional boxer
His drink and drug issues were out of fight issues not great i know for he was still in the game and not retired , he also like a lot of sportsmen has suffered from issues mentally and has found himself in dark places , but these are gone that’s for sure
I like him a lot he is a genuine thoughtful and compassionate man has time for everyone and never refuses a photo or an autograph from anyone
There’s not many who are involved in boxing who do not recognise that Tyson Fury is the real deal it’s those outside that mock him
I spend time in and around gyms up and down the country watching the guys we sponser spar and train and the conversation always comes down to AJ Tyson and wilder the common thought is that a fit Tyson beats all of them
But more give wilder the better of AJ than you’d imagine
A fit Fury is number 1!0 -
Can't see it myself.stackitsteve said:
Brilliant post.nth london addick said:Tyson is a really good guy I have said it before and it’s still the same , when he beat klitchko he found it difficult to emulate that moment again he never received the credit for that fight that he should and a lot of that is due to Tyson being the controversial sod that he likes to be
He quit after that fight in his own mind he had reached the top and was done his whole life’s work was finished from bin man to undisputed heavy weight champ and as such he began to live a life that he had never done before due to him being a professional boxer
His drink and drug issues were out of fight issues not great i know for he was still in the game and not retired , he also like a lot of sportsmen has suffered from issues mentally and has found himself in dark places , but these are gone that’s for sure
I like him a lot he is a genuine thoughtful and compassionate man has time for everyone and never refuses a photo or an autograph from anyone
There’s not many who are involved in boxing who do not recognise that Tyson Fury is the real deal it’s those outside that mock him
I spend time in and around gyms up and down the country watching the guys we sponser spar and train and the conversation always comes down to AJ Tyson and wilder the common thought is that a fit Tyson beats all of them
But more give wilder the better of AJ than you’d imagine
A fit Fury is number 1!
Poor old Tyson has stuck far too much Colombian marching powder up his bugle these past couple of years. Think Joshua would smash him into next week.0 -
I like fury. Ok, so he's a clown but I thought the fight against Wlad was a masterclass. You knew he understood how he was going to win, and stick to the plan - even him refusing to fight because the Wlads team wanted to put extra cushioning in the ring.
Until he gets fit and fights AJ/wilder there will always be unfinished business in the division0 -
AJ is a fantastic heavyweight take nothing away from him but he is not as good as many think or make out
Eddie Hearn right now is courting Fury and he is only doing that because he knows it’s too close to call with a fit Tyson hanging around
If AJ doesn’t listen to his camp and stop focusing on size and power he won’t beat either wilder or fury0 -
I hope Fury does one or the other. Get fit or shut the fuck up. It's getting boring. Every time AJ fights and wins he is all over Twitter attention seeking "I'm coming back to beat the stiff idiot" then a month later on a come down from a session and wants a bit of attention "i'm retiring because nobody loves me blah blah blah".
I find his behaviour certainly to the mainstream public pathetic. Get off Twitter and get fit, stop talking shit about boxers who are actually doing what you didn't have the mental capacity to do and be a long term champion.2