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  • bobmunro said:

    Fury fanboys still living off of his one glory night in Germany which was literally all they have too talk about. He beat Klitschko in the worst heavyweight title fight of my entire lifetime. I’m sure the stats showed Fury landing something like 23% of the 100 punches he threw and that is considered the prime version of Fury... I’m far from convinced that he beats AJ

    I'm pretty sure he wouldn't beat AJ.

    Don't underestimate Tyson though - he's a much better boxer than most observers credit him being.
    You cant hit what you cant catch

    I believe tyson would beat AJ and based on the Klitchko fight and the Takam fight i have no reason to change that view
    Spot on
  • bobmunro said:

    Fury fanboys still living off of his one glory night in Germany which was literally all they have too talk about. He beat Klitschko in the worst heavyweight title fight of my entire lifetime. I’m sure the stats showed Fury landing something like 23% of the 100 punches he threw and that is considered the prime version of Fury... I’m far from convinced that he beats AJ

    I'm pretty sure he wouldn't beat AJ.

    Don't underestimate Tyson though - he's a much better boxer than most observers credit him being.
    You cant hit what you cant catch

    I believe tyson would beat AJ and based on the Klitchko fight and the Takam fight i have no reason to change that view
    Spot on
    There's a few moving parts to this, Tyson Fury needs to get fit and active again more than anything else.

    I'm not a Tyson Fury fan, in fact I think he looks like a baby Deer with his footwork BUT he beat the champ, the main man that nobody could even test for a very long time and he made it look easy. Until someone beats Fury they are not the champ in my eyes.

    Nothing against Anthony Joshua at all, he's a great role model and seems a genuinely decent man. I wasn't as blown away by his performance in beating Wlad as a lot of people were, I thought Wlad let him off the hook massively and he showed some massive frailties. I've said a fit David Haye sparks Joshua but I think those days are gone, and whilst I expect Haye to beat Bellew I think at 38 we won't be seeing him again after that fight.

    Fury, Jarrel Miller (like what I've seen but he's yet to eat at the big table), Wilder are all fights Joshua could well lose due to how upright and one dimensional he is.
  • dont know how much truth there is to this was sent it from a mate;

    it was a article on aj;

    Anthony’s father is half Nigerian, half Irish Robert who is now an ex of his mother. A difficult youth, he fell in with a bad crowd, and was sent to boarding school in West Africa in an effort to curb his enthusiasm for drink, drugs and petty crime. It didn’t work, however. He left after just one term and returned to the local Kings Langley secondary, before quitting full-time education at 16. A fine athlete, he could run 100m in under 11 seconds despite being a smoker and was a talented footballer who had trials for Charlton Athletic.
  • Wilder destroys Stiverne, knocking him down 3 times in the first round.

    Time for Wilder to start facing decent opponents, Stiverne looked like he hadn't even bothered training and had just stepped out of the crowd. In fact, if they'd picked a random bloke out of the crowd, he couldn't have done much worse.
  • Anyone watch the Monte Carlo show? Strange watching with those chandeliers hanging!

    The bought the comms pair were over bigging up the German fighting Chisora, and thought Eubank got a bit of a promoters decision from his
  • That Aussie guy getting sparked was funny. Thought he was special. Bivol didn't break a sweat.

    Eubank wasn't anything special.

    Anyone catch the Wilder fight? Heard he looked good
  • McBobbin said:

    That Aussie guy getting sparked was funny. Thought he was special. Bivol didn't break a sweat.

    Eubank wasn't anything special.

    Anyone catch the Wilder fight? Heard he looked good


    Knocked the fella down 3 times in the 1st round. I’m sure Stiverne hadnt even trained.
  • Stiverne looks like he had been on the piss for 3 months, last night included.
  • Stiverne looks like he had been on the piss for 3 months, last night included.

    Pointless bout.
  • Nothing proved in the Wilder fight at all other than Stiverne has not trained for that fight at all not properly trained

    Tyson has 9 stone to shift and if he can come in around 17stone he beats them all

    If AJ fights wilder above 17 stone he loses

    Wilder AJ fury all beat Parker

    Eddies dream ticket is

    AJ vs Parker = AJ wins

    Wilder vs Miller = wilder wins

    AJ vs Wilder 50/50 fight that i would expect AJ to lose but it may well go his way

    Fury will sign for Hearn

    Either AJ or Wilder to fight fury

    Fury wins and retires

    AJ come back vs wilder for all the belts and AJ wins



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  • Are you saying Fury is currently about 26 stone?
  • Nothing proved in the Wilder fight at all other than Stiverne has not trained for that fight at all not properly trained

    Tyson has 9 stone to shift and if he can come in around 17stone he beats them all

    If AJ fights wilder above 17 stone he loses

    Wilder AJ fury all beat Parker

    Eddies dream ticket is

    AJ vs Parker = AJ wins

    Wilder vs Miller = wilder wins

    AJ vs Wilder 50/50 fight that i would expect AJ to lose but it may well go his way

    Fury will sign for Hearn

    Either AJ or Wilder to fight fury

    Fury wins and retires

    AJ come back vs wilder for all the belts and AJ wins



    All this would be dream tickets for all of them, including Hearn!

    I think AJ beats Wilder but would be a close call.

    Can’t see Fury fighting again though - hope I’m wrong.
  • Are you saying Fury is currently about 26 stone?

    At least!
  • I can see Fury fighting again, but never at top level.

    Not sure physically or mentally he will ever have the discipline again to get into peak condition without getting injured or losing focus
  • How the hell did Wilder at this stage of his career get matched with a 39-yr old who hadn't fought for 2 years???
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    How the hell did Wilder at this stage of his career get matched with a 39-yr old who hadn't fought for 2 years???

    Luis Ortiz failed a drug test again. Late replacement.
  • Bob he is going to be back 100% two warm up fights one prob against Del Boy again them the big one by xmas next yr
  • Dan last time I was with him and his brother he weighed 27 stone this was pre Marbella and the last fuck about by the bbboc

    I think he is around 25.-26 stone currently

    But remember he used to go to 22 stone regular inbetween fights

    If he can fight at 20 for the first warm up bout then by the Del Boy be around 18 stone he will be ready

    Remember this Daniel Debois beats them all once the kid has been through the lessons needed and Tyson knows that so he has 12-18months to get the belts

  • Tyson said last night he is 25 stone. Needs to lose 7 stone to fight.

    Made a point about going into a fight even a stone heavy is a disaster. Mentioned both Chisora and Stiverne in that.

    He seems in a much better place now.
    Well worth watching the interview, hard to argue with anything he says.
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  • Tyson said last night he is 25 stone. Needs to lose 7 stone to fight.

    Made a point about going into a fight even a stone heavy is a disaster. Mentioned both Chisora and Stiverne in that.

    He seems in a much better place now.
    Well worth watching the interview, hard to argue with anything he says.

    He does seem a lot more like his old self.
  • Tyson is a really good guy I have said it before and it’s still the same , when he beat klitchko he found it difficult to emulate that moment again he never received the credit for that fight that he should and a lot of that is due to Tyson being the controversial sod that he likes to be

    He quit after that fight in his own mind he had reached the top and was done his whole life’s work was finished from bin man to undisputed heavy weight champ and as such he began to live a life that he had never done before due to him being a professional boxer

    His drink and drug issues were out of fight issues not great i know for he was still in the game and not retired , he also like a lot of sportsmen has suffered from issues mentally and has found himself in dark places , but these are gone that’s for sure

    I like him a lot he is a genuine thoughtful and compassionate man has time for everyone and never refuses a photo or an autograph from anyone

    There’s not many who are involved in boxing who do not recognise that Tyson Fury is the real deal it’s those outside that mock him

    I spend time in and around gyms up and down the country watching the guys we sponser spar and train and the conversation always comes down to AJ Tyson and wilder the common thought is that a fit Tyson beats all of them

    But more give wilder the better of AJ than you’d imagine
  • Dan last time I was with him and his brother he weighed 27 stone this was pre Marbella and the last fuck about by the bbboc

    I think he is around 25.-26 stone currently

    But remember he used to go to 22 stone regular inbetween fights

    If he can fight at 20 for the first warm up bout then by the Del Boy be around 18 stone he will be ready

    Remember this Daniel Debois beats them all once the kid has been through the lessons needed and Tyson knows that so he has 12-18months to get the belts

    Not wrong about Daniel Dubois, the kid is the real deal and still only 20 years old, has everything AJ has in power, precision and build but seems to be a bit more agile in his movement. A lot to learn but looking forward to following his career
  • DD is the real deal mate he has the footwork to match an absolute insane natural freakish power
  • Tyson is a really good guy I have said it before and it’s still the same , when he beat klitchko he found it difficult to emulate that moment again he never received the credit for that fight that he should and a lot of that is due to Tyson being the controversial sod that he likes to be

    He quit after that fight in his own mind he had reached the top and was done his whole life’s work was finished from bin man to undisputed heavy weight champ and as such he began to live a life that he had never done before due to him being a professional boxer

    His drink and drug issues were out of fight issues not great i know for he was still in the game and not retired , he also like a lot of sportsmen has suffered from issues mentally and has found himself in dark places , but these are gone that’s for sure

    I like him a lot he is a genuine thoughtful and compassionate man has time for everyone and never refuses a photo or an autograph from anyone

    There’s not many who are involved in boxing who do not recognise that Tyson Fury is the real deal it’s those outside that mock him

    I spend time in and around gyms up and down the country watching the guys we sponser spar and train and the conversation always comes down to AJ Tyson and wilder the common thought is that a fit Tyson beats all of them

    But more give wilder the better of AJ than you’d imagine

    Brilliant post.
    A fit Fury is number 1!
  • Tyson is a really good guy I have said it before and it’s still the same , when he beat klitchko he found it difficult to emulate that moment again he never received the credit for that fight that he should and a lot of that is due to Tyson being the controversial sod that he likes to be

    He quit after that fight in his own mind he had reached the top and was done his whole life’s work was finished from bin man to undisputed heavy weight champ and as such he began to live a life that he had never done before due to him being a professional boxer

    His drink and drug issues were out of fight issues not great i know for he was still in the game and not retired , he also like a lot of sportsmen has suffered from issues mentally and has found himself in dark places , but these are gone that’s for sure

    I like him a lot he is a genuine thoughtful and compassionate man has time for everyone and never refuses a photo or an autograph from anyone

    There’s not many who are involved in boxing who do not recognise that Tyson Fury is the real deal it’s those outside that mock him

    I spend time in and around gyms up and down the country watching the guys we sponser spar and train and the conversation always comes down to AJ Tyson and wilder the common thought is that a fit Tyson beats all of them

    But more give wilder the better of AJ than you’d imagine

    Brilliant post.
    A fit Fury is number 1!
    Can't see it myself.

    Poor old Tyson has stuck far too much Colombian marching powder up his bugle these past couple of years. Think Joshua would smash him into next week.
  • I like fury. Ok, so he's a clown but I thought the fight against Wlad was a masterclass. You knew he understood how he was going to win, and stick to the plan - even him refusing to fight because the Wlads team wanted to put extra cushioning in the ring.

    Until he gets fit and fights AJ/wilder there will always be unfinished business in the division
  • AJ is a fantastic heavyweight take nothing away from him but he is not as good as many think or make out

    Eddie Hearn right now is courting Fury and he is only doing that because he knows it’s too close to call with a fit Tyson hanging around

    If AJ doesn’t listen to his camp and stop focusing on size and power he won’t beat either wilder or fury
  • I hope Fury does one or the other. Get fit or shut the fuck up. It's getting boring. Every time AJ fights and wins he is all over Twitter attention seeking "I'm coming back to beat the stiff idiot" then a month later on a come down from a session and wants a bit of attention "i'm retiring because nobody loves me blah blah blah".

    I find his behaviour certainly to the mainstream public pathetic. Get off Twitter and get fit, stop talking shit about boxers who are actually doing what you didn't have the mental capacity to do and be a long term champion.
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