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  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,788
    Leuth said:

    I have no idea why Rashid keeps being picked. He's incredibly lucky to have a Test career. Decent ODI bowler and nothing more.

    Somewhat premature imo to drop him after just four Tests. His record isn't great with 11-669 but a certain Shane Warne had even worse figures at the very same point in his career of 4-386.

    It's always a risk/reward scenario with leg spinners. His job isn't to contain but to entice which he does very well as he not only has the googly, top spinner etc etc in his armoury but also the full bunger and long hop!
  • CHG
    CHG Posts: 4,529
    Like Tuffer's said on 5 live earlier in the week, why is Rashid bowling to one day fields. Does Cook have no faith in him? Rashid should insist on attacking fields and not have defensive fielding positions for bad balls. If Tuffers moved out his point fielder then Gats would take him off in disgust.
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280

    CHG said:

    Ansari in for Batty, Finn in for Broad.
    What number will Ansari bat?

    8 I'd imagine...
    Or even 9 behind Woakes! Other than Finn at 11, we have a ridiculously long batting lineup
    Maybe they'll bat Ballance at 9 !
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,652

    CHG said:

    Ansari in for Batty, Finn in for Broad.
    What number will Ansari bat?

    8 I'd imagine...
    Or even 9 behind Woakes! Other than Finn at 11, we have a ridiculously long batting lineup
    He's a proper batsman. Should 100% be ahead of Woakes. He's not had a great year with the bat. His season was blighted with injury. But he is a proper batsman.
    He might be me, but Woakes isn't a number 9 either! He's scored lots of runs for England and Warks this year.

    What are the odds of Ballance failing again and Hameed making his debut in the far more pressurised India series?
    What are the odds of Ballance scratching an unconvincing century forcing the selectors to pick him for the entire Indian series?
  • dickplumb
    dickplumb Posts: 4,835

    CHG said:

    Ansari in for Batty, Finn in for Broad.
    What number will Ansari bat?

    8 I'd imagine...
    Or even 9 behind Woakes! Other than Finn at 11, we have a ridiculously long batting lineup
    He's a proper batsman. Should 100% be ahead of Woakes. He's not had a great year with the bat. His season was blighted with injury. But he is a proper batsman.
    He might be me, but Woakes isn't a number 9 either! He's scored lots of runs for England and Warks this year.

    What are the odds of Ballance failing again and Hameed making his debut in the far more pressurised India series?
    What are the odds of Ballance scratching an unconvincing century forcing the selectors to pick him for the entire Indian series?
    I would think the chances are very small.

  • CHG said:

    Ansari in for Batty, Finn in for Broad.
    What number will Ansari bat?

    8 I'd imagine...
    Or even 9 behind Woakes! Other than Finn at 11, we have a ridiculously long batting lineup
    He's a proper batsman. Should 100% be ahead of Woakes. He's not had a great year with the bat. His season was blighted with injury. But he is a proper batsman.
    He might be me, but Woakes isn't a number 9 either! He's scored lots of runs for England and Warks this year.

    What are the odds of Ballance failing again and Hameed making his debut in the far more pressurised India series?
    What are the odds of Ballance scratching an unconvincing century forcing the selectors to pick him for the entire Indian series?
    If the match is another low scoring match, then a scratchy 43 might be enough to keep his place

    His best role seems to be as a specialist close to the wicket fielder. Leave him out, but bring him out to field when our bowlers need a rest!
  • CHG
    CHG Posts: 4,529
    edited October 2016
    Draw at best by the looks of things today........
    We have bowled a load of dross today, their spinners will not do the same.

    The problem is, England are no where near finding the spinners they need for India, Rashid has almost made himself unpickable.
  • CHG
    CHG Posts: 4,529
    196-4, the Tigers are bottling this.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,788
    edited October 2016
    CHG said:

    Draw at best by the looks of things today........
    We have bowled a load of dross today, their spinners will not do the same.

    The problem is, England are no where near finding the spinners they need for India, Rashid has almost made himself unpickable.

    Not sure about the draw now - 171-1 to 202-6.
  • Stokes and Moeen on fire!
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  • Superb spell from Stokes & Ali
  • CHG
    CHG Posts: 4,529

    CHG said:

    Draw at best by the looks of things today........
    We have bowled a load of dross today, their spinners will not do the same.

    The problem is, England are no where near finding the spinners they need for India, Rashid has almost made himself unpickable.

    Not sure about the draw now - 171-1 to 202-6.
    Funny old game cricket, they really have collapsed there.
  • Stokes, 11 overs, 2 for 13!

    A real problem for Cook though, you can't overbowl him as the last thing we want is to knacker him before the India series starts
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,315
    edited October 2016

    I can't wait to see batts bowl in these conditions. Playing the best cricket of his life picked entirely on merit. And what a man!

    I have a small wager that he will be top wicket taketh for us in the series. I expect there will be a few people wondering why we bothered with Moeen for so much of the last few years.

    Still wondering btw
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,788
    213-8 - 7 wickets lost for 42 runs

    I really can't recall an umpire get quite so many decisions wrong as Dharmesena has in this series.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,788
    Make that 8 wickets lost for 44 runs. A collapse rather reminiscent of past England sides.

    215-9
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,788
    220 all out from 171-1

    Moeen Ali 19.5-5-57-5
  • Duckett out, but not for a duck
  • CHG
    CHG Posts: 4,529
    Fuckett Duckett
  • kentred2
    kentred2 Posts: 2,335
    Openers failed again
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  • dickplumb
    dickplumb Posts: 4,835
    Cook gone after a review. Don't worry Ballance is at the crease.
  • dickplumb
    dickplumb Posts: 4,835
    Ballance gone, what a surprise.
  • 220 starting to look like a decent score
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,315
    And a brilliant innings from Tamim. Helped by having a Surrey player bowl at him
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,915
    Leuth said:

    I can't wait to see batts bowl in these conditions. Playing the best cricket of his life picked entirely on merit. And what a man!

    I have a small wager that he will be top wicket taketh for us in the series. I expect there will be a few people wondering why we bothered with Moeen for so much of the last few years.

    Still wondering btw
    Even the best of us are wrong once.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,004
    Does anyone else find the DRS not 100% convincing in this series ?

    I usually always agree with the DRS decision, but this series I have my doubts.

    I have a little sympathy for Dharasema.
  • Big_Bob
    Big_Bob Posts: 1,536
    If Gary Ballance is the answer, what is the question?
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,652
    Big_Bob said:

    If Gary Ballance is the answer, what is the question?



    Q - Who can anchor the middle order and allow our multiple stroke players the freedom to express themselves?

    I'm not a fan of Ballance but we need someone who can construct an old fashioned innings given the fragility of our openers.
  • dickplumb
    dickplumb Posts: 4,835
    Ballance is never in long enough to stabilise the innings.
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,652
    dickplumb said:

    Ballance is never in long enough to stabilise the innings.

    I'm defending the reasoning behind his selection rather than the execution of his 'performances:.