Members of East Kent Addicks to meet KM and other Senior Club personnel at 1.00 on Sat 27 August
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Very true.stilladdicted said:Big ego in play who will view this as a personal triumph and a coup for the 'old boys' way of conducting matters. It will do nothing other than puff up an already inflated chest and hand Meire a PR point IMO.
No way would ordinary members be allowed to ask challenging questions IMHOMuttleyCAFC said:
Maybe it is time for that to change - does Kings Hill think EKA are capable of asking the challenging questions that might make this of interest?Airman Brown said:Has anyone ever attended a supporters' branch meeting where the club was challenged by the questioning? I'm not sure I have. The nature of the audience tends to be that people are grateful for the opportunity just to listen to people from the club saying whatever they want to say.
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Can anyone sort @Airman Brown out with an EKA membership?1
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I'm guessing her ladyship and her henchman Big Tony Southstand will want to see the guest list before the meeting?The Red Robin said:Can anyone sort @Airman Brown out with an EKA membership?
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I have asked challenging questions at an EKA meeting - so has Dave Ramzan. This was to the'sweating the assets' guy - his name escapes me now. They all merge into one nowadays.
He was another one who promised to look into it and did no such thing.0 -
This is interesting as it is the first chance for the regime to show they are serious about engaging with fans. I hope that Meire attends (couldn't care less about the others at this stage) and in return I hope she is treated with respect. If it turns into a slanging match, which I hope it won't, then we will have lost the moral high ground.0
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Doubt it will turn into a slanging match, the serious questions will be about the lack of sandwiches available and the tea being too weak.4
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And a list of questions.T.C.E said:
I'm guessing her ladyship and her henchman Big Tony Southstand will want to see the guest list before the meeting?The Red Robin said:Can anyone sort @Airman Brown out with an EKA membership?
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stilladdicted said:
Big ego in play who will view this as a personal triumph and a coup for the 'old boys' way of conducting matters. It will do nothing other than puff up an already inflated chest and hand Meire a PR point IMO.
Oooh, stilladdicted, you are nawty !
But I like you !
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Personally I think the meeting should go ahead. Questions need to be very carefully thought through before hand, including follow up questions where the predictable answers are given.
Daisy is bound to put her foot in again a few times. All questions should be directed to her. As CEO she should have a good grasp on everything!
All to be made public, no gagging order, which would be a no-goer.
Press her on team investment (despite sales of JC, JBG and a huge offer for Pope!); why does she think season ticket sales have fallen so much (the people asking the questions need to have facts to hand including what happened at the last relegation). Ask her what measures gave her last of success RD year and how she performed against them. What are her measures for this year. Will she resign if she doesn't meet them?
Give her a hard time1 - Sponsored links:
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Totally wrong entertaining her, this shouldn't be going ahead imo2
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I think it would be good for people to attend these meetings and to ask very challenging questions.
When I attended the Training Ground day last season, a few of us DID try to ask some questions and the SMT members appeared quite uncomfortable. The session was quickly brought to a close and we were told it wasn't the time and place for such questions.
That evening the infamous 'Statement' was published.
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Didn't we do this already, ask her challenging questions, she wheeled out the PowerPoint template "Building a better future together" and we've gone where? Gobsmacked by the ego's on this and the "message to card" thread. Stick together, put your self interests to one side, and we win, continue this shit and they will slowly kill this club.21
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Yes come on people of (East) Kent, get yourselves to London, gather on Blackheath like your forebears Wat Tyler and Jack Cade and ask questions to the powers that be. Just don't get yourselves stabbed to death by the Lord Meire or hung drawn and quartered though.3
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Get ripped, smoke tabs?RodneyCharltonTrotta said:First rule of East Kent addicks...
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I heard they were sending an FA Council Member along to monitor progress.Badger said:
Then maybe a member from the EFL could be invited along to the meeting as well.Dansk_Red said:They are only holding these meetings to comply with the EFL requirements to have meeting with fans groups, so just ticking a box exercise.
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Bedfordshire rep I hearOff_it said:
I heard they were sending an FA Council Member along to monitor progress.Badger said:
Then maybe a member from the EFL could be invited along to the meeting as well.Dansk_Red said:They are only holding these meetings to comply with the EFL requirements to have meeting with fans groups, so just ticking a box exercise.
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All questions to her, about the club and not bloody facilities questions or train times again please.0
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Please for the love of God, just decline it guys. You are prolonging the fight by giving her the chance of communication and to lie about how good everything is and how beautiful the Club is, which is then relayed to the media and downplays the seriousness of the entire matter.3
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Bit extreme.WestCountryAddick said:
If the East Kent Addicks were part of CARD then I would agree with you as CARD have the apparatus to control the message.se9addick said:WestCountryAddick said:Bedsaddick said:ElfsborgAddick said:Bedsaddick said:
Again. She would love that.ElfsborgAddick said:The best thing to do would be arrange the meeting, then everybody boycotts it.
In this instance however we'd be hanging Katrien1 -
Couldn't agree more. Deep down you all know any dialogue is useless.Atletico Addick said:Please for the love of God, just decline it guys. You are prolonging the fight by giving her the chance of communication and to lie about how good everything is and how beautiful the Club is, which is then relayed to the media and downplays the seriousness of the entire matter.
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I will go let me join, love to meet our tone4
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He told me in confidence so I shouldn't say nothing. But he reckons he's gonna rip you a new ar5eh*le.nth london addick said:I will go let me join, love to meet our tone
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We can't maon about a lack of communication and then moan when a meeting is set up. But given the previous form she has shown, she is likely to put her foot in it during the evening because she is so clueless about engaging brain before mouth she won't be able to help herself. One to attend for those who enjoy watching car crashes as they happen.Atletico Addick said:Please for the love of God, just decline it guys. You are prolonging the fight by giving her the chance of communication and to lie about how good everything is and how beautiful the Club is, which is then relayed to the media and downplays the seriousness of the entire matter.
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Maybe. I wasn't there, but I understand that Wendy stood up to RM when he said several things, including a statement about Steve Kavanagh's departure, that she knew to be untrue. RM came with quite a belligerent approach towards Wendy (who he no doubt saw as a proxy for me, among others) and got a response. However, few fans are in a position to challenge the club on detail like that.kings hill addick said:
Actually I have. Richard Murray was given quite a tough time at a Bromley meeting I attended just after Wendy Perfect had left the club. From memory your name might have come up too Airman.Airman Brown said:Has anyone ever attended a supporters' branch meeting where the club was challenged by the questioning? I'm not sure I have. The nature of the audience tends to be that people are grateful for the opportunity just to listen to people from the club saying whatever they want to say.
I've also seen KM get quite a grilling at Bromley too. She became very defensive and, in my view, looked like she was going to cry at one point.
I do agree with your assessment though Airman. Logically though we all know that if we don't behave when we are 'invited' somewhere we run the risk of not being asked back. The same applies if we behave in an unpleasant manner to guests they might decline out invitation to come again.
On the subject of EKA being told that they must decline an invitation and/or be told what they can and cannot ask if they do go I think this is unfair and unrealistic.
I also think that questions that are, in reality, rhetorical and spiteful are pointless and probably play into her hands.
There are numerous issues on which the argument needs to be driven home. While I don't think it's one of them, if you take the latest statement about the ABC letter for example, it's thoroughly disingenuous. It positions the club as acting reasonably by completely ignoring the contents of the letter that created the furore and substituting a whole other narrative. Yet the letter was the issue. Why can't the club just say that the letter was a mistake and should not have been sent in the terms it was? It was clearly absurd.
On a more substantive issue, the club's public statement and explanations about the situation at the training ground, via the fans' form, are inconsistent, incomplete and probably dishonest. I am sceptical that the format of a branch meeting allows that kind of issue to be teased out and the inconsistencies confronted because the kind of persistent questioning that allows that won't be possible.11 -
So it'll be a cosy little gathering, tea and biscuits and a few egos massaged. Sounds great, on reflection go for it.
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Only people, who in my eyes, were very late to cotton on to the fact that Roland is not good news to our club, are moaning about a lack of communication still. A lot of us realised weeks/months ago that communication is not the way forward as she uses every channel as one to lie down and voice that more so towards at winning fans around but also for the media to latch on to and down-play the seriousness of our problems. She has an unbelievable amount of idiosyncrasies but the obvious one to, surely, all of us is her lying. Lying to keep herself in her job, she is about self promotion.mogodon said:
We can't maon about a lack of communication and then moan when a meeting is set up. But given the previous form she has shown, she is likely to put her foot in it during the evening because she is so clueless about engaging brain before mouth she won't be able to help herself. One to attend for those who enjoy watching car crashes as they happen.Atletico Addick said:Please for the love of God, just decline it guys. You are prolonging the fight by giving her the chance of communication and to lie about how good everything is and how beautiful the Club is, which is then relayed to the media and downplays the seriousness of the entire matter.
They don't end up as car crashes unfortunately, they play into her hands in the long term in my eyes, and that's the fans who are saying yes to these meetings.
She is trying to build bridges, we need to burn them.1 -
This is a tick box exercise by Meire. She knows the club have to do more fan engagement, so by arranging the first one before a home game for a group that will have to leave earlier than normal to get there, she knows there won't be that many attending and it will be all over in 30 minutes.
Easy ride, tick in the box, job done.
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