So.........3 weeks ago a manager walked away from talks with us because he wasn't given assurances in writing that he'd have full control over signings. Then we get a manager who says he has a verbal agreement. RD must be laughing his bollocks off at the stupidity of Slade here. I'll be amazed if this ends well.
Wider got all he wanted and agreed to be our manager ..... But Sheffield due to his personal life was to much of a pull Nothing else was the reason ..... press conference was even booked
So.........3 weeks ago a manager walked away from talks with us because he wasn't given assurances in writing that he'd have full control over signings. Then we get a manager who says he has a verbal agreement. RD must be laughing his bollocks off at the stupidity of Slade here. I'll be amazed if this ends well.
Wider got all he wanted and agreed to be our manager ..... But Sheffield due to his personal life was to much of a pull Nothing else was the reason ..... press conference was even booked
It's TOO not TO. Please - just one post with no errors. You nearly did it earlier but it's CAWLEY not CRAWLEY.
I've only just started watching but when Slade started talking and said "it feels like a Championship club", it made me remember the times even as recently as a couple of years or so ago that players came and said on their arrival how Charlton/The Valley felt like a Premier League club/stadium.
All fairly meaningless platitudes of course, in both cases, but a depressing sign of how far backwards we've gone in a short space of time.
So.........3 weeks ago a manager walked away from talks with us because he wasn't given assurances in writing that he'd have full control over signings. Then we get a manager who says he has a verbal agreement. RD must be laughing his bollocks off at the stupidity of Slade here. I'll be amazed if this ends well.
Typical of the rubbish on here. Sheffield United were his club..nothing whatever to do with assurances. You just spout out whatever suits your prejudices.
The danger of a crusade is that it takes on its own life and it's objective becomes the sole drive rather than what kicked it off in the first place. I have always wanted this lot to sell but it has been clear for a long while that they will not. Talk of "having them on the run" etc is just wishful delusion, but still seems to be the only aim of some of the contributors here.
And what is "Our Charlton" I have supported the club for 70 years and I have witnessed numerous versions of Charlton. If you are referring to the character and essence that makes it a bit different from other clubs, then that will remain no matter who owns it even if it has to resurface from time to time.
For the moment shut up, or at least hold judgement for a while, rather than invite failure by hoping or at least half hoping for it.
Spot on Mr. Kinsella!
Every single word that comes out of any meeting or press conference is dissected and spun by some on here to use to their advantage!
yes by you and Colin.
Don't you see that while others "spin" it one way, you "spin" it the other.
Meanwhile you salute one Charlton fan to tell others to "shut up".
So.........3 weeks ago a manager walked away from talks with us because he wasn't given assurances in writing that he'd have full control over signings. Then we get a manager who says he has a verbal agreement. RD must be laughing his bollocks off at the stupidity of Slade here. I'll be amazed if this ends well.
Typical of the rubbish on here. Sheffield United were his club..nothing whatever to do with assurances. You just spout out whatever suits your prejudices.
The danger of a crusade is that it takes on its own life and it's objective becomes the sole drive rather than what kicked it off in the first place. I have always wanted this lot to sell but it has been clear for a long while that they will not. Talk of "having them on the run" etc is just wishful delusion, but still seems to be the only aim of some of the contributors here.
And what is "Our Charlton" I have supported the club for 70 years and I have witnessed numerous versions of Charlton. If you are referring to the character and essence that makes it a bit different from other clubs, then that will remain no matter who owns it even if it has to resurface from time to time.
For the moment shut up, or at least hold judgement for a while, rather than invite failure by hoping or at least half hoping for it.
Spot on Mr. Kinsella!
Every single word that comes out of any meeting or press conference is dissected and spun by some on here to use to their advantage!
yes by you and Colin.
Don't you see that while others "spin" it one way, you "spin" it the other.
Meanwhile you salute one Charlton fan to tell others to "shut up".
Henry, you are a classic example of what I was saying, Kinsella actually stated:-
''For the moment shut up, or at least hold judgement for a while, rather than invite failure by hoping or at least half hoping for it''.
But you chose just to quote just the ''shut up'' part of the sentence, totally taking it out of context!
So.........3 weeks ago a manager walked away from talks with us because he wasn't given assurances in writing that he'd have full control over signings. Then we get a manager who says he has a verbal agreement. RD must be laughing his bollocks off at the stupidity of Slade here. I'll be amazed if this ends well.
Typical of the rubbish on here. Sheffield United were his club..nothing whatever to do with assurances. You just spout out whatever suits your prejudices.
The danger of a crusade is that it takes on its own life and it's objective becomes the sole drive rather than what kicked it off in the first place. I have always wanted this lot to sell but it has been clear for a long while that they will not. Talk of "having them on the run" etc is just wishful delusion, but still seems to be the only aim of some of the contributors here.
And what is "Our Charlton" I have supported the club for 70 years and I have witnessed numerous versions of Charlton. If you are referring to the character and essence that makes it a bit different from other clubs, then that will remain no matter who owns it even if it has to resurface from time to time.
For the moment shut up, or at least hold judgement for a while, rather than invite failure by hoping or at least half hoping for it.
Spot on Mr. Kinsella!
Every single word that comes out of any meeting or press conference is dissected and spun by some on here to use to their advantage!
I wish you could realise how desperate you sound.
Desperate?
I just appear to be rattling some cages on here for calling it as I see it!
So.........3 weeks ago a manager walked away from talks with us because he wasn't given assurances in writing that he'd have full control over signings. Then we get a manager who says he has a verbal agreement. RD must be laughing his bollocks off at the stupidity of Slade here. I'll be amazed if this ends well.
Typical of the rubbish on here. Sheffield United were his club..nothing whatever to do with assurances. You just spout out whatever suits your prejudices.
The danger of a crusade is that it takes on its own life and it's objective becomes the sole drive rather than what kicked it off in the first place. I have always wanted this lot to sell but it has been clear for a long while that they will not. Talk of "having them on the run" etc is just wishful delusion, but still seems to be the only aim of some of the contributors here.
And what is "Our Charlton" I have supported the club for 70 years and I have witnessed numerous versions of Charlton. If you are referring to the character and essence that makes it a bit different from other clubs, then that will remain no matter who owns it even if it has to resurface from time to time.
For the moment shut up, or at least hold judgement for a while, rather than invite failure by hoping or at least half hoping for it.
Spot on Mr. Kinsella!
Every single word that comes out of any meeting or press conference is dissected and spun by some on here to use to their advantage!
I wish you could realise how desperate you sound.
Desperate?
I just appear to be rattling some cages on here for calling it as I see it!
Well, having been pessimistic about Slade I feel a lot more positive having watched that presser in full. He seems very Charlton like. Considered, open and determined. Katrien looks awful....the protests have clearly taken their toll. But, overall, I think Slade seems decent. Let's see how the signings pan out - if random Belgians start rocking up at Sparrows Lane or if we actually sign experienced pros and flair lower leaguers to get us out of div 3.
So.........3 weeks ago a manager walked away from talks with us because he wasn't given assurances in writing that he'd have full control over signings. Then we get a manager who says he has a verbal agreement. RD must be laughing his bollocks off at the stupidity of Slade here. I'll be amazed if this ends well.
Typical of the rubbish on here. Sheffield United were his club..nothing whatever to do with assurances. You just spout out whatever suits your prejudices.
The danger of a crusade is that it takes on its own life and it's objective becomes the sole drive rather than what kicked it off in the first place. I have always wanted this lot to sell but it has been clear for a long while that they will not. Talk of "having them on the run" etc is just wishful delusion, but still seems to be the only aim of some of the contributors here.
And what is "Our Charlton" I have supported the club for 70 years and I have witnessed numerous versions of Charlton. If you are referring to the character and essence that makes it a bit different from other clubs, then that will remain no matter who owns it even if it has to resurface from time to time.
For the moment shut up, or at least hold judgement for a while, rather than invite failure by hoping or at least half hoping for it.
Spot on Mr. Kinsella!
Every single word that comes out of any meeting or press conference is dissected and spun by some on here to use to their advantage!
I wish you could realise how desperate you sound.
Desperate?
I just appear to be rattling some cages on here for calling it as I see it!
Hero
No, just an individual with a mind of my own rather than following the flock!
So.........3 weeks ago a manager walked away from talks with us because he wasn't given assurances in writing that he'd have full control over signings. Then we get a manager who says he has a verbal agreement. RD must be laughing his bollocks off at the stupidity of Slade here. I'll be amazed if this ends well.
Typical of the rubbish on here. Sheffield United were his club..nothing whatever to do with assurances. You just spout out whatever suits your prejudices.
The danger of a crusade is that it takes on its own life and it's objective becomes the sole drive rather than what kicked it off in the first place. I have always wanted this lot to sell but it has been clear for a long while that they will not. Talk of "having them on the run" etc is just wishful delusion, but still seems to be the only aim of some of the contributors here.
And what is "Our Charlton" I have supported the club for 70 years and I have witnessed numerous versions of Charlton. If you are referring to the character and essence that makes it a bit different from other clubs, then that will remain no matter who owns it even if it has to resurface from time to time.
For the moment shut up, or at least hold judgement for a while, rather than invite failure by hoping or at least half hoping for it.
Spot on Mr. Kinsella!
Every single word that comes out of any meeting or press conference is dissected and spun by some on here to use to their advantage!
I wish you could realise how desperate you sound.
Desperate?
I just appear to be rattling some cages on here for calling it as I see it!
Hero
No, just an individual with a mind of my own rather than following the flock!
So anyone who doesn't share your viewpoint lacks a mind of their own? You are as arrogant as Katrien.
essex al you've been positive about these clowns since the beginning , give this a chance give that a chance eventually (pray to god) something good might happen and you will be right but you are a bit strange in that most things this pathetic regime do you are trumpeting it before there is anything to crow about , take some of your own advice and wait and see before extolling the virtues of KM'S new net curtains or whatever else is her next fanciful idea
Difficult to get a smoke bomb through net curtains. Could maybe erect a large cinema screen in front of the covered end and project the game on it. Just like going to the pictures.
If protests are to continue we need to do it properly. Not with flares and petty name calling or aggression and racism. That just makes us look childish and will definitely deter players from joining us.
So.........3 weeks ago a manager walked away from talks with us because he wasn't given assurances in writing that he'd have full control over signings. Then we get a manager who says he has a verbal agreement. RD must be laughing his bollocks off at the stupidity of Slade here. I'll be amazed if this ends well.
Typical of the rubbish on here. Sheffield United were his club..nothing whatever to do with assurances. You just spout out whatever suits your prejudices.
The danger of a crusade is that it takes on its own life and it's objective becomes the sole drive rather than what kicked it off in the first place. I have always wanted this lot to sell but it has been clear for a long while that they will not. Talk of "having them on the run" etc is just wishful delusion, but still seems to be the only aim of some of the contributors here.
And what is "Our Charlton" I have supported the club for 70 years and I have witnessed numerous versions of Charlton. If you are referring to the character and essence that makes it a bit different from other clubs, then that will remain no matter who owns it even if it has to resurface from time to time.
For the moment shut up, or at least hold judgement for a while, rather than invite failure by hoping or at least half hoping for it.
Spot on Mr. Kinsella!
Every single word that comes out of any meeting or press conference is dissected and spun by some on here to use to their advantage!
I wish you could realise how desperate you sound.
Desperate?
I just appear to be rattling some cages on here for calling it as I see it!
Hero
No, just an individual with a mind of my own rather than following the flock!
Even in cases where the majority are right ? I think some people like to take the minority view for the sake of it, as it makes them feel important.
Its not going to be as black and white as having it in your contract or not. Any manager worth a rub that is going to join a club with a recent managerial history like ours, would take on board the comments from previous managers and insist that something is written in their contract along the lines of they have control over player recruitment but any fees have to agreed by the owner/CEO.
Slade is mental to think a verbal agreement means anything to this mob.
Slade is an experaniced manager who knows football ..... He as full control as much as a manager can have in today football , he would not have taken the job of he did not , he says everything goes through me ........we manage upwards
Why did he not get written assurances over transfers as you said Wilder was given?
essex al you've been positive about these clowns since the beginning , give this a chance give that a chance eventually (pray to god) something good might happen and you will be right but you are a bit strange in that most things this pathetic regime do you are trumpeting it before there is anything to crow about , take some of your own advice and wait and see before extolling the virtues of KM'S new net curtains or whatever else is her next fanciful idea
You see this is where you get me totally wrong!
I don't actually give two shits with regards RD and KM. To me they are just guardians of my club until the next lot to buy the club come along. There has been loads before them and there will be loads after them.
They have done a shit job of running the club, there is no denying that and although time after time I have been called a club apologist, it couldn't be further from the truth.
What really gets to me is that people on here are not prepared to give Slade a chance. You have protested and part of that was asking for a British manager. That man is in place now and is not a coach he is our manager.
I've already stated that Slade didn't particularly float my boat, but listening to him today in the two interviews on you tube has given me some hope for next season. All I am really interested in is getting out of this godforsaken league. I hated it the last time and it will be the same this time, but I will be there all the same showing support for Slade and his team.
It has been an interesting day where I have been called a clown, arrogant, pantomime horse and much more, but hey ho, I have my views and I am sticking by them.
Just think if there wasn't arrogant clowns like me with alternate views we wouldn't have a forum!
Slade said no player will be sold on the cheap and he hopes the players he wants to stay will stay and fight to get the club back ..... Already apoken to one or two players but will see the others when pre season starts and looking forward to trip to Austria
Not actually getting at anyone here, but that, obviously, excludes people who may be let go for nothing....
As if he will have any say on what offers the Club get for any player. He may have input on how much he thinks a player is worth but Katie and Co will accept any offer that they see fit whether Brussel agrees or not.
So.........3 weeks ago a manager walked away from talks with us because he wasn't given assurances in writing that he'd have full control over signings. Then we get a manager who says he has a verbal agreement. RD must be laughing his bollocks off at the stupidity of Slade here. I'll be amazed if this ends well.
Typical of the rubbish on here. Sheffield United were his club..nothing whatever to do with assurances. You just spout out whatever suits your prejudices.
The danger of a crusade is that it takes on its own life and it's objective becomes the sole drive rather than what kicked it off in the first place. I have always wanted this lot to sell but it has been clear for a long while that they will not. Talk of "having them on the run" etc is just wishful delusion, but still seems to be the only aim of some of the contributors here.
And what is "Our Charlton" I have supported the club for 70 years and I have witnessed numerous versions of Charlton. If you are referring to the character and essence that makes it a bit different from other clubs, then that will remain no matter who owns it even if it has to resurface from time to time.
For the moment shut up, or at least hold judgement for a while, rather than invite failure by hoping or at least half hoping for it.
Spot on Mr. Kinsella!
Every single word that comes out of any meeting or press conference is dissected and spun by some on here to use to their advantage!
yes by you and Colin.
Don't you see that while others "spin" it one way, you "spin" it the other.
Meanwhile you salute one Charlton fan to tell others to "shut up".
So.........3 weeks ago a manager walked away from talks with us because he wasn't given assurances in writing that he'd have full control over signings. Then we get a manager who says he has a verbal agreement. RD must be laughing his bollocks off at the stupidity of Slade here. I'll be amazed if this ends well.
Typical of the rubbish on here. Sheffield United were his club..nothing whatever to do with assurances. You just spout out whatever suits your prejudices.
The danger of a crusade is that it takes on its own life and it's objective becomes the sole drive rather than what kicked it off in the first place. I have always wanted this lot to sell but it has been clear for a long while that they will not. Talk of "having them on the run" etc is just wishful delusion, but still seems to be the only aim of some of the contributors here.
And what is "Our Charlton" I have supported the club for 70 years and I have witnessed numerous versions of Charlton. If you are referring to the character and essence that makes it a bit different from other clubs, then that will remain no matter who owns it even if it has to resurface from time to time.
For the moment shut up, or at least hold judgement for a while, rather than invite failure by hoping or at least half hoping for it.
Spot on Mr. Kinsella!
Every single word that comes out of any meeting or press conference is dissected and spun by some on here to use to their advantage!
yes by you and Colin.
Don't you see that while others "spin" it one way, you "spin" it the other.
Meanwhile you salute one Charlton fan to tell others to "shut up".
Henry, you are a classic example of what I was saying, Kinsella actually stated:-
''For the moment shut up, or at least hold judgement for a while, rather than invite failure by hoping or at least half hoping for it''.
But you chose just to quote just the ''shut up'' part of the sentence, totally taking it out of context!
I rest my case!
As Uboat said "desperate".
You know deep down you've backed the wrong horse but you're desperately try to convince yourself that things aren't as bad as they clearly are.
I may have mentioned this on this or other threads but watching the interviews today, I liked Slade. Rather a lot more than I was expecting to.
Looking forward to the next month and hoping he can get a squad together.
Shopping list could be quite long as before we lose anyone other than Lookman, JBG and Vetokele, I reckon we need 2 strikers, RM with cover, LM, LB cover, RB cover, CB (if Teixara leaves). So that's 7 players.
And then replacements for any of Solly, Fox, Diarra, Cousins, Harriott, Pope, Bauer, Kashi leaving.
I'm probably a few players off the 20-22 adult squad with U21s filling the rest of the numbers up to 25 there.
We'll know more in a month and good luck to Slade in the transfer market. Don't let Katrien make any calls.
So.........3 weeks ago a manager walked away from talks with us because he wasn't given assurances in writing that he'd have full control over signings. Then we get a manager who says he has a verbal agreement. RD must be laughing his bollocks off at the stupidity of Slade here. I'll be amazed if this ends well.
Typical of the rubbish on here. Sheffield United were his club..nothing whatever to do with assurances. You just spout out whatever suits your prejudices.
The danger of a crusade is that it takes on its own life and it's objective becomes the sole drive rather than what kicked it off in the first place. I have always wanted this lot to sell but it has been clear for a long while that they will not. Talk of "having them on the run" etc is just wishful delusion, but still seems to be the only aim of some of the contributors here.
And what is "Our Charlton" I have supported the club for 70 years and I have witnessed numerous versions of Charlton. If you are referring to the character and essence that makes it a bit different from other clubs, then that will remain no matter who owns it even if it has to resurface from time to time.
For the moment shut up, or at least hold judgement for a while, rather than invite failure by hoping or at least half hoping for it.
Spot on Mr. Kinsella!
Every single word that comes out of any meeting or press conference is dissected and spun by some on here to use to their advantage!
I wish you could realise how desperate you sound.
Desperate?
I just appear to be rattling some cages on here for calling it as I see it!
Hero
No, just an individual with a mind of my own rather than following the flock!
Even in cases where the majority are right ? I think some people like to take the minority view for the sake of it, as it makes them feel important.
Just because you are in the majority, it doesn't necessarily make you right.
If you think I challenge some of the things written on here to make myself important you couldn't be further from the truth my friend.
Elfsborg is one of the most vociferous on here with regards to KM and RD but that doesn't stop me classing him as a friend and enjoying a pint with him (even though I have to buy the first round!). Important, no just a fan with different views Alan!
So.........3 weeks ago a manager walked away from talks with us because he wasn't given assurances in writing that he'd have full control over signings. Then we get a manager who says he has a verbal agreement. RD must be laughing his bollocks off at the stupidity of Slade here. I'll be amazed if this ends well.
Typical of the rubbish on here. Sheffield United were his club..nothing whatever to do with assurances. You just spout out whatever suits your prejudices.
The danger of a crusade is that it takes on its own life and it's objective becomes the sole drive rather than what kicked it off in the first place. I have always wanted this lot to sell but it has been clear for a long while that they will not. Talk of "having them on the run" etc is just wishful delusion, but still seems to be the only aim of some of the contributors here.
And what is "Our Charlton" I have supported the club for 70 years and I have witnessed numerous versions of Charlton. If you are referring to the character and essence that makes it a bit different from other clubs, then that will remain no matter who owns it even if it has to resurface from time to time.
For the moment shut up, or at least hold judgement for a while, rather than invite failure by hoping or at least half hoping for it.
Spot on Mr. Kinsella!
Every single word that comes out of any meeting or press conference is dissected and spun by some on here to use to their advantage!
I wish you could realise how desperate you sound.
Desperate?
I just appear to be rattling some cages on here for calling it as I see it!
Hero
No, just an individual with a mind of my own rather than following the flock!
So anyone who doesn't share your viewpoint lacks a mind of their own? You are as arrogant as Katrien.
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PS. The content is still shit.
Katrien is awful. Murray should have not had a fig but otherwise wasn't too bad.
Decent set of questions they had to field though.
If Katrien didn't fear for her job when we got relegated mainly due to her decisions, there's something wrong there.
All fairly meaningless platitudes of course, in both cases, but a depressing sign of how far backwards we've gone in a short space of time.
Cheers Roland
''For the moment shut up, or at least hold judgement for a while, rather than invite failure by hoping or at least half hoping for it''.
But you chose just to quote just the ''shut up'' part of the sentence, totally taking it out of context!
I rest my case!
I just appear to be rattling some cages on here for calling it as I see it!
Katrien looks awful....the protests have clearly taken their toll.
But, overall, I think Slade seems decent. Let's see how the signings pan out - if random Belgians start rocking up at Sparrows Lane or if we actually sign experienced pros and flair lower leaguers to get us out of div 3.
I'd like to see Roland and Katrien and Tony leave.
These do not seem mutually exclusive.
Inspirational vision.
I don't actually give two shits with regards RD and KM. To me they are just guardians of my club until the next lot to buy the club come along. There has been loads before them and there will be loads after them.
They have done a shit job of running the club, there is no denying that and although time after time I have been called a club apologist, it couldn't be further from the truth.
What really gets to me is that people on here are not prepared to give Slade a chance. You have protested and part of that was asking for a British manager. That man is in place now and is not a coach he is our manager.
I've already stated that Slade didn't particularly float my boat, but listening to him today in the two interviews on you tube has given me some hope for next season. All I am really interested in is getting out of this godforsaken league. I hated it the last time and it will be the same this time, but I will be there all the same showing support for Slade and his team.
It has been an interesting day where I have been called a clown, arrogant, pantomime horse and much more, but hey ho, I have my views and I am sticking by them.
Just think if there wasn't arrogant clowns like me with alternate views we wouldn't have a forum!
You know deep down you've backed the wrong horse but you're desperately try to convince yourself that things aren't as bad as they clearly are.
Looking forward to the next month and hoping he can get a squad together.
Shopping list could be quite long as before we lose anyone other than Lookman, JBG and Vetokele, I reckon we need 2 strikers, RM with cover, LM, LB cover, RB cover, CB (if Teixara leaves). So that's 7 players.
And then replacements for any of Solly, Fox, Diarra, Cousins, Harriott, Pope, Bauer, Kashi leaving.
I'm probably a few players off the 20-22 adult squad with U21s filling the rest of the numbers up to 25 there.
We'll know more in a month and good luck to Slade in the transfer market. Don't let Katrien make any calls.
If you think I challenge some of the things written on here to make myself important you couldn't be further from the truth my friend.
Elfsborg is one of the most vociferous on here with regards to KM and RD but that doesn't stop me classing him as a friend and enjoying a pint with him (even though I have to buy the first round!). Important, no just a fan with different views Alan!