So.........3 weeks ago a manager walked away from talks with us because he wasn't given assurances in writing that he'd have full control over signings. Then we get a manager who says he has a verbal agreement. RD must be laughing his bollocks off at the stupidity of Slade here. I'll be amazed if this ends well.
Typical of the rubbish on here. Sheffield United were his club..nothing whatever to do with assurances. You just spout out whatever suits your prejudices.
The danger of a crusade is that it takes on its own life and it's objective becomes the sole drive rather than what kicked it off in the first place. I have always wanted this lot to sell but it has been clear for a long while that they will not. Talk of "having them on the run" etc is just wishful delusion, but still seems to be the only aim of some of the contributors here.
And what is "Our Charlton" I have supported the club for 70 years and I have witnessed numerous versions of Charlton. If you are referring to the character and essence that makes it a bit different from other clubs, then that will remain no matter who owns it even if it has to resurface from time to time.
For the moment shut up, or at least hold judgement for a while, rather than invite failure by hoping or at least half hoping for it.
Spot on Mr. Kinsella!
Every single word that comes out of any meeting or press conference is dissected and spun by some on here to use to their advantage!
I wish you could realise how desperate you sound.
Desperate?
I just appear to be rattling some cages on here for calling it as I see it!
Hero
No, just an individual with a mind of my own rather than following the flock!
You are ignorant - not because you have a position which you are fully entitled to, but because you do not respect that many others are not following the flock, but hold a counter position. Because they massively outnumber you - it doesn't mean they are following the flock and suggesting it is arrogant and disrespectful!
It's always been about the ownership and corporate governance to me. Slade might be a good manager for us, but he starts at a bad time and presumably accepts the current structure. I'll still be protesting and boycotting until Duchatelet is gone.
Tried to google it but not getting anywhere. Has any manager in the history of professional football in the UK won their first promotion after 20 years of managing clubs in the lower leagues?
Struck me today that Slade may end up effectively managing Meire.
He mentioned managing 'upwards and downwards' in the press conference, has way more knowledge of football management (importantly not just 'coaching') - and how often do you see it at work when someone good comes in and starts managing their boss. Again, just from going on that 30min video - Slade also has the ("going forward" etc.) management speak, air of confidence and general nature of someone that makes me think he could potentially do that.
Especially when you consider how Meire was asking players what to do about Fraeye, who to sign (which was then promptly ignored) and that she's generally hugely inexperienced in the role - it could be pretty likely that Slade gets his arms around a lot more of the club then previous managers/head coaches by being the new 'trusted advisor'/puppet-master for KM.
This is the optimistic phase before the games start again, isn't it?
CEO that decimates the customer base, devalues the product, loses half the staff, and adds a conservative £2m p/a to the operating losses... and has no fears for her job.
Mental.
@daveydanger that is a superb, succinct post. You couldn't make this shit up, yet this is perfectly acceptable under the ownership of RD
Echoing what others have already intimated, Russell Slade's on a hiding to nothing here. "nobody leaving on the cheap" not by doeshitalot's measure maybe but everybody's available at the rat's guesstimated economic value - prime example - if Nick Pope fancies premier league benchwarming money he'll be in Burnley by the weekend; the undisclosed fee will later transpire to be whatever roly needs to pay up NP's contract If Tony Watt is fit enough to pass another team's medical by 31 August, he'll be off, if not it'll be January, transfer fee as NP. The same goes for Bauer and Kashi who enhanced their reputations even in their few appearances. Shifting the icelandic slacker makes perfect sense and given when he was given a new (i.e. enhanced) contract he will be (relatively) expensive. If Jordan Cousins really is well paid for the best player in a 3rd division squad, then he too will be off, again essentially for no net proceeds. RS is on record as wanting to scale down the "bloated" squad to no more than 25. How that reduced squad can be an improved rosta beggars belief. Flushing out the dreggs like Zak Bergdych, El Hadji Ba, Naby Sarr (shudder) should be nigh on impossible, unless they have sufficient pride to find themselves alternative employment and waive their remaining contractual entitlements to facilitate their release. Modern footballers doing that? Seems unlikely. Charlton are already pissing about with Moncur and Colchester for the sake of £200k. If they want him, get it done. Does Murray not remember nearly missing out on Mark Kinsella in exactly that fashion? Lessons learned my big fat arse. (I'm not, yet, equating Moncur with Kins BTW) Russell Slade needs to familiarise himself with Meire's litany of lies over the Varney connected "talks": get her version from the squirrel's mouth and then get the truth. This episode should inform him of the nature of the piper currently calling the tune. And what 'misinterpretated' actually means. What he chooses to do with that information is up to him and TBH I don't mind, he's a big boy, he'll stand or fall by his decision. I'd love to be wrong but if RS gets to assemble a competitive squad, with any familiar faces beyond JJ and Harry Lennon, and that squad is 10th or higher by November 30th, I'll be a monkey's uncle. Support the (what passes for) team, not the regime. Roland (and all your cancerous retinue) out.
I am please the club are trying a "new direction" and we can only wait and see whether it is lip service or a real change in approach but, that sofa is really trying my patience
Russell Slade needs a maths lesson. Once you deduct our high earners, who he obviously knows are off and the kids with barely any experience, we are already below 20 experienced professionals. That includes Rojo, Sarr and JJ who wanted to hang up his boots and manage. We have our 1st friendly in a month.
Where did the trend towards saying 'the football club' instead of 'the club' originate? (as if we might think he was referring to the 'cricket club' or the 'social club')
Where did the trend towards saying 'the football club' instead of 'the club' originate? (as if we might think he was referring to the 'cricket club' or the 'social club')
Where did the trend towards saying 'the football club' instead of 'the club' originate? (as if we might think he was referring to the 'cricket club' or the 'social club')
I think the use of the word Club, by Toland and Meire is a disgrace.
They have pretty much dismantled much of what a club is all about and their only saving grace is that they have been so poor that the fans have got together as a club in a way that perhaps may not have happened if we had had some generally poor owner managers rather than totally atrocious.
Declan Warrington @decwarrington 1m1 minute ago Slade: "We got to work on a few targets yesterday. Give it 6 months and Nobby will be leaving this football club on the cheap." #CAFC
I haven't seen/listened to the press conference as yet. I support Slade and I think he could be a good appointment but I knew that whatever he would have said would be just the same old rhetoric. What else would we expect! For me, now, it's all about the actions, not words. And, we still have that idiot of a CEO sprouting her rubbish so nothing appears to be changing. In spite of that, welcome Russell.
Katrien looks drained and bored. I think she's on the way out.
How can Murray get so much wrong?
1. Ventokele 2. Sit with the fans in the North Bank 3. Premiership (premier league) 3. Division 1 (league 1) 4. Diarra - fantastic midfielder (agreed he is but he played most of last season at centre bank) 5. Kashi - played 2 games (I haven't checked but I'm sure he played more than that)
I haven't seen/listened to the press conference as yet. I support Slade and I think he could be a good appointment but I knew that whatever he would have said would be just the same old rhetoric. What else would we expect! For me, now, it's all about the actions, not words. And, we still have that idiot of a CEO sprouting her rubbish so nothing appears to be changing. In spite of that, welcome Russell.
Think you're confusing your Brussel sprouts with the lies that spout from our CEO's gob, Rob.
I haven't seen/listened to the press conference as yet. I support Slade and I think he could be a good appointment but I knew that whatever he would have said would be just the same old rhetoric. What else would we expect! For me, now, it's all about the actions, not words. And, we still have that idiot of a CEO sprouting her rubbish so nothing appears to be changing. In spite of that, welcome Russell.
Think you're confusing your Brussel sprouts with the lies that spout from our CEO's gob, Rob.
Blimey. I don't believe I put that. Shows how confused I am. :-)
Just watched the whole thing, I like Slade...a lot, still hate the rest of them unfortunately. I think he will certainly try and shake things up, he's a proper football manager, something we haven't seen for a while. Whether they let him shake things up how he wants will be a fascinating watch. If they do, things could significantly improve on the pitch, if they don't he won't be around long. Cautiously optimistic with his appointment, KM and RM need to go sharpish, they add nothing, in fact they will be a hindrance to any improvement. Roland out too.
With a well run club behind him RS should win promotion, he comes across well.
I don't agree but putting that aside he doesn't have a well run club behind him so we are fooked
This is what makes me more likely to believe we are in this league for a while. Slade has been at some far better run clubs than ours and hasn't managed it in 20 years in the game, why should he at this stage turn things around and get us up?
I like the bloke, think he's a decent, experienced manager and will give him every chance but he seems to be better at coming in and preventing relegation rather than putting together a promotion winning squad. Would have made a better appointment as Director of Football with a younger coach under him imo.
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Are you a school teacher?
However, I just do not believe he will be given the freedom and tools that he needs to take the role on properly.
Meire & Murray - everything has been said by others ... all they want to do these days is portray themselves as victims.
All the best Russell, you seem a decent man and have good connections, motives and ideas.
I'll still be protesting and boycotting until Duchatelet is gone.
Could end up going through a couple of bottles of tequila per press conference.
He mentioned managing 'upwards and downwards' in the press conference, has way more knowledge of football management (importantly not just 'coaching') - and how often do you see it at work when someone good comes in and starts managing their boss. Again, just from going on that 30min video - Slade also has the ("going forward" etc.) management speak, air of confidence and general nature of someone that makes me think he could potentially do that.
Especially when you consider how Meire was asking players what to do about Fraeye, who to sign (which was then promptly ignored) and that she's generally hugely inexperienced in the role - it could be pretty likely that Slade gets his arms around a lot more of the club then previous managers/head coaches by being the new 'trusted advisor'/puppet-master for KM.
This is the optimistic phase before the games start again, isn't it?
"nobody leaving on the cheap" not by doeshitalot's measure maybe but everybody's available at the rat's guesstimated economic value - prime example - if Nick Pope fancies premier league benchwarming money he'll be in Burnley by the weekend; the undisclosed fee will later transpire to be whatever roly needs to pay up NP's contract
If Tony Watt is fit enough to pass another team's medical by 31 August, he'll be off, if not it'll be January, transfer fee as NP. The same goes for Bauer and Kashi who enhanced their reputations even in their few appearances.
Shifting the icelandic slacker makes perfect sense and given when he was given a new (i.e. enhanced) contract he will be (relatively) expensive.
If Jordan Cousins really is well paid for the best player in a 3rd division squad, then he too will be off, again essentially for no net proceeds.
RS is on record as wanting to scale down the "bloated" squad to no more than 25. How that reduced squad can be an improved rosta beggars belief.
Flushing out the dreggs like Zak Bergdych, El Hadji Ba, Naby Sarr (shudder) should be nigh on impossible, unless they have sufficient pride to find themselves alternative employment and waive their remaining contractual entitlements to facilitate their release. Modern footballers doing that? Seems unlikely.
Charlton are already pissing about with Moncur and Colchester for the sake of £200k. If they want him, get it done. Does Murray not remember nearly missing out on Mark Kinsella in exactly that fashion? Lessons learned my big fat arse. (I'm not, yet, equating Moncur with Kins BTW)
Russell Slade needs to familiarise himself with Meire's litany of lies over the Varney connected "talks": get her version from the squirrel's mouth and then get the truth. This episode should inform him of the nature of the piper currently calling the tune. And what 'misinterpretated' actually means. What he chooses to do with that information is up to him and TBH I don't mind, he's a big boy, he'll stand or fall by his decision.
I'd love to be wrong but if RS gets to assemble a competitive squad, with any familiar faces beyond JJ and Harry Lennon, and that squad is 10th or higher by November 30th, I'll be a monkey's uncle.
Support the (what passes for) team, not the regime.
Roland (and all your cancerous retinue) out.
I feel like it began with Tony Pulis......?
Slade will soon be calling it the Comedy Club.
Well it's certainly up the creek
They have pretty much dismantled much of what a club is all about and their only saving grace is that they have been so poor that the fans have got together as a club in a way that perhaps may not have happened if we had had some generally poor owner managers rather than totally atrocious.
Russell Slade seems a decent bloke.
Katrien looks drained and bored. I think she's on the way out.
How can Murray get so much wrong?
1. Ventokele
2. Sit with the fans in the North Bank
3. Premiership (premier league)
3. Division 1 (league 1)
4. Diarra - fantastic midfielder (agreed he is but he played most of last season at centre bank)
5. Kashi - played 2 games (I haven't checked but I'm sure he played more than that)
Good luck Russ.
He's got a well developed bull shit mode but he's also got a very amusing line going on under the regime radar.
Or maybe I'm just an optimist.
I like the bloke, think he's a decent, experienced manager and will give him every chance but he seems to be better at coming in and preventing relegation rather than putting together a promotion winning squad. Would have made a better appointment as Director of Football with a younger coach under him imo.