Have CAFC fans fallen out of Love with the Cup? Trust asks for clarification on stand closures

what it does do is question the figures that you first propsed as savings, your post on here said it would only save £100,s yet the club are saying 1000's

do you accept your guess was off or do you think the club are being economical with the truth AB

To read this thread you would think that sections of the Valley have never been closed before. Capacity has always been reduced for cup games, youth games, pre season friendlies etc. I can't understand why so many are making a fuss this time.
I do think it was worth the Trust asking questions of the club, and they have shown that, despite previous accusations, they are willing to provide answers. This will help to open up future dialogue.
Their answer was as much as you could expect and we should accept it and move on.

Airman Brown said:

nth london addick said:

what it does do is question the figures that you first propsed as savings, your post on here said it would only save £100,s yet the club are saying 1000's

do you accept your guess was off or do you think the club are being economical with the truth AB

The savings themselves are in the low thousands, but Charlton only save 45 per cent of most of them because of the revenue split and then they are offset by lost sales - tickets not sold and reduced catering profit because of congestion in the open areas.

I still can't accept that 'lost sales' will amount to anything at all.

interesting one, but next Wednesday don't look that likely either, and the cup draw may make it a lot more interesting..

kings hill addick said:

If we are drawn away to a top side the club could/should make preference to this prestigious game dependent on coming to this game that should boost attendances. There us no shortage of demand for an away game at a top Premier league side!

Yeah in 11/12 we took 7,000 away to Fulham in the 3rd Round, which was nearly as many as the entire home attendance for the previous round game at the Valley. Funny how the draw can raise enthusiasm for cup games!

MuttleyCAFC said:

kings hill addick said:

If we are drawn away to a top side the club could/should make preference to this prestigious game dependent on coming to this game that should boost attendances. There us no shortage of demand for an away game at a top Premier league side!

I would expect them to do this if possible. The problem is there will be numbers mis-match so a ticket couldn't be guaranteed.

This can't easily be done, because season ticket holders and VG members are already entitled to preference, although a lot of home supporters wouldn't travel anyway.

kings hill addick said:

VG yes, but they often have preference to those that went to some away games when the allocation is less than the number of season ticket holders. I've lost out on that basis before.

Well, the allocation is nearly always less than the number of season ticket holders, but you're right that preference is extended to regular away travellers. However, most of these are season ticket holders too.

MuttleyCAFC said:

Bournemouth Addick said:

Table in today's Telegraph showing that attendances for yesterday's matches was nearly 100,000 down when compared to the home teams average attendance.

It would appear that it's not just at CAFC that supporters priorities have changed.

Another factor is the draw itself. Some games generate interest and others apathy!

That's true to an extent and reflected in a handful of games like at Blackburn where the attendance was bigger than average. But after all the 'big' boys have come in at the third round stage it still looks like attendances, for what was traditionally a bumper day for football, will be down somewhere approaching 25%.

Clubs are reacting to that, indeed Bournemouth was £10 a ticket anywhere in the house yesterday, but it does seem to me that fans across the board are voting with their feet...and that's without factoring in our own appalling cup record.

Bournemouth Addick said:

MuttleyCAFC said:

Bournemouth Addick said:

Table in today's Telegraph showing that attendances for yesterday's matches was nearly 100,000 down when compared to the home teams average attendance.

It would appear that it's not just at CAFC that supporters priorities have changed.

Another factor is the draw itself. Some games generate interest and others apathy!

That's true to an extent and reflected in a handful of games like at Blackburn where the attendance was bigger than average. But after all the 'big' boys have come in at the third round stage it still looks like attendances, for what was traditionally a bumper day for football, will be down somewhere approaching 25%.

Clubs are reacting to that, indeed Bournemouth was £10 a ticket anywhere in the house yesterday, but it does seem to me that fans across the board are voting with their feet...and that's without factoring in our own appalling cup record.

This is what the BBC reported last January: "This season's third round enjoyed its best aggregate attendance since 2008, with over 645,000 fans attending games in total."

We haven't even had all the third round matches yet, but it's irrational to extrapolate a trend based on year on year change, not least because of the random nature of the draw.

the attendance for the oxford game will be the lowest for years and years now

Bad style of football due to the pitch, cold January midweek evening game, winner gets a non-appetising battle down at boring Hudders', playing vs a League Two team . Be as many Oxford as there will be Charlton, forget the cup this year.

at this rate the third round match might be the first time to any new arrivals (at the Valley at least)

seriously_red said:

A crowd of 15,000 at Forest including 3,000 West Ham fans. So just over 50% of their home league gate to see a Premier League team.

Ah, but there's the rub. It wasn't a premier league team was it.

It was mainly a premier league's youth team !