what it does do is question the figures that you first propsed as savings, your post on here said it would only save £100,s yet the club are saying 1000's
do you accept your guess was off or do you think the club are being economical with the truth AB
what it does do is question the figures that you first propsed as savings, your post on here said it would only save £100,s yet the club are saying 1000's
do you accept your guess was off or do you think the club are being economical with the truth AB
The savings themselves are in the low thousands, but Charlton only save 45 per cent of most of them because of the revenue split and then they are offset by lost sales - tickets not sold and reduced catering profit because of congestion in the open areas.
To read this thread you would think that sections of the Valley have never been closed before. Capacity has always been reduced for cup games, youth games, pre season friendlies etc. I can't understand why so many are making a fuss this time. I do think it was worth the Trust asking questions of the club, and they have shown that, despite previous accusations, they are willing to provide answers. This will help to open up future dialogue. Their answer was as much as you could expect and we should accept it and move on.
what it does do is question the figures that you first propsed as savings, your post on here said it would only save £100,s yet the club are saying 1000's
do you accept your guess was off or do you think the club are being economical with the truth AB
The savings themselves are in the low thousands, but Charlton only save 45 per cent of most of them because of the revenue split and then they are offset by lost sales - tickets not sold and reduced catering profit because of congestion in the open areas.
I still can't accept that 'lost sales' will amount to anything at all.
If we are drawn away to a top side the club could/should make preference to this prestigious game dependent on coming to this game that should boost attendances. There us no shortage of demand for an away game at a top Premier league side!
If we are drawn away to a top side the club could/should make preference to this prestigious game dependent on coming to this game that should boost attendances. There us no shortage of demand for an away game at a top Premier league side!
Yeah in 11/12 we took 7,000 away to Fulham in the 3rd Round, which was nearly as many as the entire home attendance for the previous round game at the Valley. Funny how the draw can raise enthusiasm for cup games!
If we are drawn away to a top side the club could/should make preference to this prestigious game dependent on coming to this game that should boost attendances. There us no shortage of demand for an away game at a top Premier league side!
I would expect them to do this if possible. The problem is there will be numbers mis-match so a ticket couldn't be guaranteed.
If we are drawn away to a top side the club could/should make preference to this prestigious game dependent on coming to this game that should boost attendances. There us no shortage of demand for an away game at a top Premier league side!
I would expect them to do this if possible. The problem is there will be numbers mis-match so a ticket couldn't be guaranteed.
This can't easily be done, because season ticket holders and VG members are already entitled to preference, although a lot of home supporters wouldn't travel anyway.
VG yes, but they often have preference to those that went to some away games when the allocation is less than the number of season ticket holders. I've lost out on that basis before.
VG yes, but they often have preference to those that went to some away games when the allocation is less than the number of season ticket holders. I've lost out on that basis before.
Well, the allocation is nearly always less than the number of season ticket holders, but you're right that preference is extended to regular away travellers. However, most of these are season ticket holders too.
Table in today's Telegraph showing that attendances for yesterday's matches was nearly 100,000 down when compared to the home teams average attendance.
It would appear that it's not just at CAFC that supporters priorities have changed.
Table in today's Telegraph showing that attendances for yesterday's matches was nearly 100,000 down when compared to the home teams average attendance.
It would appear that it's not just at CAFC that supporters priorities have changed.
Another factor is the draw itself. Some games generate interest and others apathy!
Table in today's Telegraph showing that attendances for yesterday's matches was nearly 100,000 down when compared to the home teams average attendance.
It would appear that it's not just at CAFC that supporters priorities have changed.
Another factor is the draw itself. Some games generate interest and others apathy!
That's true to an extent and reflected in a handful of games like at Blackburn where the attendance was bigger than average. But after all the 'big' boys have come in at the third round stage it still looks like attendances, for what was traditionally a bumper day for football, will be down somewhere approaching 25%.
Clubs are reacting to that, indeed Bournemouth was £10 a ticket anywhere in the house yesterday, but it does seem to me that fans across the board are voting with their feet...and that's without factoring in our own appalling cup record.
Table in today's Telegraph showing that attendances for yesterday's matches was nearly 100,000 down when compared to the home teams average attendance.
It would appear that it's not just at CAFC that supporters priorities have changed.
Another factor is the draw itself. Some games generate interest and others apathy!
That's true to an extent and reflected in a handful of games like at Blackburn where the attendance was bigger than average. But after all the 'big' boys have come in at the third round stage it still looks like attendances, for what was traditionally a bumper day for football, will be down somewhere approaching 25%.
Clubs are reacting to that, indeed Bournemouth was £10 a ticket anywhere in the house yesterday, but it does seem to me that fans across the board are voting with their feet...and that's without factoring in our own appalling cup record.
And who can be surprised? The product has been devalued. FAPL teams always fielding weak sides, even the European qualification is no long a juicy goal for the bigger sides, buggering about with kick off days and times...admittedly they have reduced it to the same level of importance as the German Cup for example, but that is no excuse. Shame on English football
Table in today's Telegraph showing that attendances for yesterday's matches was nearly 100,000 down when compared to the home teams average attendance.
It would appear that it's not just at CAFC that supporters priorities have changed.
Another factor is the draw itself. Some games generate interest and others apathy!
That's true to an extent and reflected in a handful of games like at Blackburn where the attendance was bigger than average. But after all the 'big' boys have come in at the third round stage it still looks like attendances, for what was traditionally a bumper day for football, will be down somewhere approaching 25%.
Clubs are reacting to that, indeed Bournemouth was £10 a ticket anywhere in the house yesterday, but it does seem to me that fans across the board are voting with their feet...and that's without factoring in our own appalling cup record.
This is what the BBC reported last January: "This season's third round enjoyed its best aggregate attendance since 2008, with over 645,000 fans attending games in total."
We haven't even had all the third round matches yet, but it's irrational to extrapolate a trend based on year on year change, not least because of the random nature of the draw.
Bad style of football due to the pitch, cold January midweek evening game, winner gets a non-appetising battle down at boring Hudders', playing vs a League Two team . Be as many Oxford as there will be Charlton, forget the cup this year.
But only we can moan about the arrangements for a game that is going to get postponed anyway. The re-arranged game may carry a new set of circumstances- a juicy draw in the next round boosting interest -midweek etc....
the generally small crowds right across the board (except for a 'big' club visiting a minnow) indicate that the public as a whole prefers to spend its ever decreasing disposable income on watching league rather than cup games
I certainly have. In fact, i'd be more that happy if the club wrote to the FA asking if we could be `excused' from entering each year. I know thats irrational etc but we're bollox in it....and have been bollox for as long as I can remember. It causes us nothing but grief as far as i'm concerned.
A crowd of 15,000 at Forest including 3,000 West Ham fans. So just over 50% of their home league gate to see a Premier League team.
Ah, but there's the rub. It wasn't a premier league team was it.
It was mainly a premier league's youth team !
Would it not be an idea to make some vouchers available free to people who purchase season tickets
Some people are finding it hard to get to matches due to the cost so any incentive to get more people to come along would be appreciated.
Could the club have taken a more progressive approach for the cup game against Oxford and priced tickets at say a fiver to try and attract more people than rather just close parts of the ground down.
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do you accept your guess was off or do you think the club are being economical with the truth AB
I do think it was worth the Trust asking questions of the club, and they have shown that, despite previous accusations, they are willing to provide answers. This will help to open up future dialogue.
Their answer was as much as you could expect and we should accept it and move on.
It would appear that it's not just at CAFC that supporters priorities have changed.
Clubs are reacting to that, indeed Bournemouth was £10 a ticket anywhere in the house yesterday, but it does seem to me that fans across the board are voting with their feet...and that's without factoring in our own appalling cup record.
We haven't even had all the third round matches yet, but it's irrational to extrapolate a trend based on year on year change, not least because of the random nature of the draw.
I certainly have. In fact, i'd be more that happy if the club wrote to the FA asking if we could be `excused' from entering each year. I know thats irrational etc but we're bollox in it....and have been bollox for as long as I can remember. It causes us nothing but grief as far as i'm concerned.
It was mainly a premier league's youth team !
Some people are finding it hard to get to matches due to the cost so any incentive to get more people to come along would be appreciated.
Could the club have taken a more progressive approach for the cup game against Oxford and priced tickets at say a fiver to try and attract more people than rather just close parts of the ground down.