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At the end of the day, we are going to football not to war. All those that approach a game like that from both sides are pathetic. A lot of them have this ridiculous view that they are courageous, and everybody else are cowards but it is more simply that everybody else is civilised and they are thick as monkeys.
I don't go to football to beat anybody up. When I played football, I was never afraid of getting hurt, I'm no coward, But I know the difference of when it is appropriate to show courage and when it is pathetic and sad to be a hooligan. Many of us have aggression in us, and there are healthy means to release this - take up boxing, play rugby or football, but don't take it to the streets!
And the OB treated us like cattle and we duly behaved like cattle, so next time they will treat us even more like cattle. How many brain cells does it take to work that one out?0 -
Nail on the head - we were not allowed to.Hong Kong Addick said:Thing is Palace fans just don't hate us the way we seem to them. Their beef is with Brighton.
Unrequited footy 'hatred' and our pathetic reaction to defeat just makes them look down at us even more.
I personally abhor Palace but we lost so man up, shuffle out quietly and go home without making a scene.0 -
Their beef is with Brighton ...lol0
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Absolutely spot onDave2l said:Didn't go today but just want to remind people...
All/most clubs have thug/hooligan supporters...whether that's a high or low percentage
All/most clubs have fans that moan too much
All/most clubs go a bit extra nuts on derby day
Of course it's disappointing for people to see acts of stupidity like people vandalising etc but I doubt it's a sudden 'new breed' of supporters.0 -
I agree Muttley. If some in the crowd start tearing the place up, they're going to get the rest of us a reputation for being violent morons like them. The police are then going to crank up the security and keep people in longer in response to a perceived threat. Then the 'warriors' will do their thing again, so the police will step up again, rinse and repeat. The police got it wrong today no doubt, and if there had been aggression towards them while I would not applaud it, I could understand it. But the cars that got damaged had absolutely nothing to do with anything, why the hell would damaging them make any difference whatsoever!?MuttleyCAFC said:At the end of the day, we are going to football not to war. All those that approach a game like that from both sides are pathetic. A lot of them have this ridiculous view that they are courageous, and everybody else are cowards but it is more simply that everybody else is civilised and they are thick as monkeys.
I don't go to football to beat anybody up. When I played football, I was never afraid of getting hurt, I'm no coward, But I know the difference of when it is appropriate to show courage and when it is pathetic and sad to be a hooligan. Many of us have aggression in us, and there are healthy means to release this - take up boxing, play rugby or football, but don't take it to the streets!
And the OB treated us like cattle and we duly behaved like cattle, so next time they will treat us even more like cattle. How many brain cells does it take to work that one out?0 -
Lol! A bulldozer would be best! Hahaha Shit ground Shit fanscharltonsteve21 said:They should all be ripped out, crap seats,crap ground,crap club
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stonemuse said:
exactly ...don't pretend its new and our fans have suddenly changed ...same happened in the 70's, 80's etc etc.northstandsteve said:It's Palace away get over it been happening for Donkey's years nothing new here, move on.
And I'm not posting to justify anything ...just pointing out it is has always been this way at selhurst. </blockquote
Yep, I can remember shop windows going in and the 75 bus took a battering to.0 -
Best post on the subject,it is not big or clever to smash seats,cars,or toilets it is frankly embarrassing and pathetic.MuttleyCAFC said:At the end of the day, we are going to football not to war. All those that approach a game like that from both sides are pathetic. A lot of them have this ridiculous view that they are courageous, and everybody else are cowards but it is more simply that everybody else is civilised and they are thick as monkeys.
I don't go to football to beat anybody up. When I played football, I was never afraid of getting hurt, I'm no coward, But I know the difference of when it is appropriate to show courage and when it is pathetic and sad to be a hooligan. Many of us have aggression in us, and there are healthy means to release this - take up boxing, play rugby or football, but don't take it to the streets!
And the OB treated us like cattle and we duly behaved like cattle, so next time they will treat us even more like cattle. How many brain cells does it take to work that one out?
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Writing this without reading all of the comments .
Yesterday was probably the first time when i wasnt proud to be a Charlton fan. The behaviour of a few idiots is something i have never seen before from a Chalrton crowd- and something i wouldnt want to see again. Seats ripped out, destroyed - flares, general stupid,boorish,agressive and vitriolic behaviour.Never before seen such tribal rubbish - please,please,please, whoever it is, leave that to the idiots of Millwall.
Not sure if its been mentioned here, but i must admit i did have a double take when the police took away the culprit who lit the flare when we scored - would your picture of a stereotypical football hooligan be a short, 50 year old black bloke with little hair and glasses !!!!
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That's impossible, it must have been one of the "new breed" of teenage fans.The_President said:
Not sure if its been mentioned here, but i must admit i did have a double take when the police took away the culprit who lit the flare when we scored - would your picture of a stereotypical football hooligan be a short, 50 year old black bloke with little hair and glasses !!!!
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Bedsaddick, the vandals were in their 40s apparently, not kids. Perhaps this is the new breed, the kids behave respectfully and the dads act like thugs.0
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Smashing up cars and vandalism is a mugs game, no excuse for it0
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Sadly there were an awful amount of mugs about yesterday!DA9 said:Smashing up cars and vandalism is a mugs game, no excuse for it
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Yep, last one for me too. The thought of giving them 30 odd squid, and to be treated like the way i was treated after the game - no more of that for me.Athletico Charlton said:Prick kids. Don't blame the police. Didn't think they got it right but does not excuse the behaviour of those idiots. Last palace away game for me. Embarrassed.
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Yeah, the racist abuse, car smashing, seat carrying (up until he got near the police at the station, where he dropped it, BIG MAN!) that I saw was all done by men in their 40s plus.
The only criminal acts I saw the under 20s doing was their haircuts. Most of them are all fart and no poo, which can only be a good thing.0 -
But if you've got a load of blokes who have been on the keg for 5 hours and their team have thrown away a lead against a rival team then some of them are going to get violent. The same type of bloke might also do it on a night out after he's had a row with someone.DA9 said:Smashing up cars and vandalism is a mugs game, no excuse for it
It's down to the police and stewards to try and control them, which is not easy, but surely they've plenty of experience at it by now.
Surprising to think Watford kicked off at lunchtime and this one didn't.
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How about people trying to control themselves!EdgeleyAddick said:
But if you've got a load of blokes who have been on the keg for 5 hours and their team have thrown away a lead against a rival team then some of them are going to get violent. The same type of bloke might also do it on a night out after he's had a row with someone.DA9 said:Smashing up cars and vandalism is a mugs game, no excuse for it
It's down to the police and stewards to try and control them, which is not easy, but surely they've plenty of experience at it by now.
Surprising to think Watford kicked off at lunchtime and this one didn't.0 -
If these "blokes" are so inadequate that they cannot handle their drinks and/or the excitement of a football match, they need to find a new interest. Perhaps flower arranging might me more suitable to their fragile temperaments.EdgeleyAddick said:But if you've got a load of blokes who have been on the keg for 5 hours and their team have thrown away a lead against a rival team then some of them are going to get violent. The same type of bloke might also do it on a night out after he's had a row with someone...
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Rubbish, no excuse, if they want a fight, go and look for the palace firm and put your fists up, no excuse for vandalising cars and property.EdgeleyAddick said:
But if you've got a load of blokes who have been on the keg for 5 hours and their team have thrown away a lead against a rival team then some of them are going to get violent. The same type of bloke might also do it on a night out after he's had a row with someone.DA9 said:Smashing up cars and vandalism is a mugs game, no excuse for it
It's down to the police and stewards to try and control them, which is not easy, but surely they've plenty of experience at it by now.
Surprising to think Watford kicked off at lunchtime and this one didn't.
Would anyone on here who lives near the Valley or parks near the Valley on match day be so forgiving if millwall smashed their car or vandalised their fence/garden wall etc in March, would it be the polices fault then or would you be screaming for arrests and millwall to be punished?
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Called it when we played millwall.
We have a good group of supporters,millwall and palace bring out the divs. won't be seen again. Lets not make a big deal out of it.0 -
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Wow...just...wow.
As occurs with the race-related threads, if this thread, and indeed forum serve at least one purpose today, it's to allow our most idiotic supporters to reveal themselves. Particularly those who write-off those unimpressed with the chair-smashing, mirror-snapping, flare-throwing lugheads as somehow 'anti-Charlton'.
If an outsider were to come to CL off the back of yesterday's events, I would hope that they would see a backlash against an element of support that the majority have absolutely no respect for.
Sadly, that's not entirely the case.0 -
The stupidity of people is nothing short of astonishing. If anyone thinks that ripping out seats, throwing abuse or flares, smashing up cars and kicking shit out of toilet plumbing is either, funny, justified or normal behaviour then I really believe you are not safe to walk the streets around genuinely normal people. Seek help now for all our sakes.0
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Exactly, a lot of those people whose cars got smashed up are probably doing it tough enough anyway in the current economic climate, now they have to fork out dough for car repairs or at least lose their no claims bonus.DA9 said:
Rubbish, no excuse, if they want a fight, go and look for the palace firm and put your fists up, no excuse for vandalising cars and property.EdgeleyAddick said:
But if you've got a load of blokes who have been on the keg for 5 hours and their team have thrown away a lead against a rival team then some of them are going to get violent. The same type of bloke might also do it on a night out after he's had a row with someone.DA9 said:Smashing up cars and vandalism is a mugs game, no excuse for it
It's down to the police and stewards to try and control them, which is not easy, but surely they've plenty of experience at it by now.
Surprising to think Watford kicked off at lunchtime and this one didn't.
Would anyone on here who lives near the Valley or parks near the Valley on match day be so forgiving if millwall smashed their car or vandalised their fence/garden wall etc in March, would it be the polices fault then or would you be screaming for arrests and millwall to be punished?
Embarrassed to hear about this behaviour, if people want to have a ruck with like minded Palace fans then that's their business, but smashing up people's private property is bang out of order.0 -
So we got told on Millwall forums that we had pulled the Lions' tail in December, so what about yesterday? Did we snap the Eagles' wing?0
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Ruffled the Eagles Feathers?0
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were are just coping Smallwall -------------- i bet some hair salon got it good the clippy bastards0
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Left game 2 mins before full time. Got held at corden started about 2 deep then everyone poured out obviously..
However as soon as its held u just got little shits pushing but I was more suprised it was the 40/50 year olds who decided to push right to the front and start on the coppers. But police handled it so wrong.
Don't fancy it anymore if that's what we're gonna come up against every away game. And that's not the police that's our own fans as well.
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Hmm - Definitely wood worm - little pressure from sitting. Verdict - Accidental.Mrbacon said:
Palace away happened, a lil snippet of the seating. Quite mild compared to some of the stuff.nth london addick said:Did i miss anything today .??,
Case closed.0 -
That stadium is an accident waiting to happen. Almost crushed to death trying to get a half time beer!
I've got to say our fans were disgraceful yesterday total embarrassment. Blame the old bill, it's easy. We lost, leave the ground and go home whatever direction we are sent. It's not difficult.
Fans smashing the kiosk at half time jumping over and throwing beers etc at your own fans, injuring one guy was outrageous. Grow up.
As for the guys smashing the toilets up at the end and then high five eachother. Well done lads.
I'm sick at these yobs spoiling my day out. It's a minority but why these people think they can behave like this I will never know.
I didn't see trouble outside as I was off sharp ish but you could see it coming.
I'm seriously considering avoiding these games, I don't want to be associated with these kind of people.
Vocally terrific yesterday and a great performance. Shame we couldn't hold on. I think Powell doing great job with limited resources.
One miserable Addick this morning. Hangover from hell0 -
Whoever it is they need weeding out . We don't need these people as supporters ( if they actually are supporters ?).Jayajosh said:Bedsaddick, the vandals were in their 40s apparently, not kids. Perhaps this is the new breed, the kids behave respectfully and the dads act like thugs.
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