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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic v Peterborough Utd: Tuesday 11th February 2025: KO 19:45

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  • edited February 12
    bobmunro said:
    On your attendance point, a cold Tuesday night in February is what we would expect for a mid-table Division 3 game, which is what we were just a few games ago. Keep up this run and the crowds will swell - as we all know, initiatives around the edges to increase crowd size have a tiny effect, consistently winning matches and building hope of promotion puts bums on seats.
    Id love to see bigger crowds but I dont think we will get anything dramatically larger, even if our good form continues. In 2018/19 we struggled to get over 12k at home in the final run-in of home games, and we won our final 6 in a row back then. It was only the playoff semi that saw a big crowd.
  • Bailey said:
    bobmunro said:
    Feared the worst at first, the teams come out to a near empty Valley and started the game in a similar flat way. Jones made a couple of mistakes in first 3 mins, and their lightening striker blitzed past him and Gillesphey early on with ease. 

    But after about 10-15 mins we settled into the game and seemed to raise it about 3 gears. We were unlucky not to have at least a couple of goals lead by halftime, and when the goal and sending off happened, it seemed like a game over situation.

    Fair play to Peterborough, they had what looked a very young team and showed fantastic spirit playing with 10 men. The done the necessary slowing and we didn’t really get to grips with trying to stretch them. I wasn’t sure of the subs, Godden’s movement and in-box awareness seemed much more likely to lead to a late goal than lumping to Chuks and Miles, but we got what we needed from that corner.

    For just 6 or 7 thousand in the ground we made a fair old racket at the end. Such a shame the team continue to get so low turnouts, without the freebies I counted just 42 people in my block and the adjacent block, though it was nice to stand and not worry about anyone behind. Just one executive box in use in the ground too so commercially it seems just as bad. 

    As others have said the team is unrecognisable from a couple of months ago. It’s been an amazing turnaround, transition, whatever you want to call it. It was another good, well worked and deserved victory last night, this is the most we have played as ‘a team’ where everyone knows their role so quite a long time. 
    Good post.

    On your attendance point, a cold Tuesday night in February is what we would expect for a mid-table Division 3 game, which is what we were just a few games ago. Keep up this run and the crowds will swell - as we all know, initiatives around the edges to increase crowd size have a tiny effect, consistently winning matches and building hope of promotion puts bums on seats.
    Some good points here but I think Football needs to look at how they can make the best of the current Sky deal with regards to actual fan attendance. Thankfully we only have Barnsley as a home midweek night game left but in future I'd like to see some tinkering around the fixture list if possible. Some consideration should be given to the distance and travel arrangements that fans have to face on these midweek games. If we would have played Orient at home last night the actual attendance would have been over 10000, yes both clubs are in good form but their close proximity would have increased the attendance in any case. I also think we use our Autumn months, where stepping outside your door does not require three layers of winter warmers just to survive the evening, for silly cup games that I can't even remember the names of. And lastly, when using public transport, especially the trains, how many take a look at the forecast and think, we'll if my last Services are cancelled due to the weather then I ain't getting home, it's a consideration, I live in Canterbury, by train I walk back in the door at midnight, by car I'm hoping that the A2/M2 are not having a cone evening but I'm still home at 23.00. Some thought needed by the Football authorities please, but I'm not hopeful. 
    Factors effecting midweek attendance, first it a league 1 game, second for most of the season we have been a lower mid table side playing poor football, third it was cold, fourth many of are supporters are not within 4 miles of the ground, fifth the number of people working from home, LTF numbers of journeys in rush hour down 20% compared to pre pandemic, sixth the game can be seen on a sports tv/streaming channel, and seventh there was European football 
    being covered last night Man City v Real Madrid for example. Just a few reasons.
  • edited February 12
    msomerton said:
    Bailey said:
    bobmunro said:
    Feared the worst at first, the teams come out to a near empty Valley and started the game in a similar flat way. Jones made a couple of mistakes in first 3 mins, and their lightening striker blitzed past him and Gillesphey early on with ease. 

    But after about 10-15 mins we settled into the game and seemed to raise it about 3 gears. We were unlucky not to have at least a couple of goals lead by halftime, and when the goal and sending off happened, it seemed like a game over situation.

    Fair play to Peterborough, they had what looked a very young team and showed fantastic spirit playing with 10 men. The done the necessary slowing and we didn’t really get to grips with trying to stretch them. I wasn’t sure of the subs, Godden’s movement and in-box awareness seemed much more likely to lead to a late goal than lumping to Chuks and Miles, but we got what we needed from that corner.

    For just 6 or 7 thousand in the ground we made a fair old racket at the end. Such a shame the team continue to get so low turnouts, without the freebies I counted just 42 people in my block and the adjacent block, though it was nice to stand and not worry about anyone behind. Just one executive box in use in the ground too so commercially it seems just as bad. 

    As others have said the team is unrecognisable from a couple of months ago. It’s been an amazing turnaround, transition, whatever you want to call it. It was another good, well worked and deserved victory last night, this is the most we have played as ‘a team’ where everyone knows their role so quite a long time. 
    Good post.

    On your attendance point, a cold Tuesday night in February is what we would expect for a mid-table Division 3 game, which is what we were just a few games ago. Keep up this run and the crowds will swell - as we all know, initiatives around the edges to increase crowd size have a tiny effect, consistently winning matches and building hope of promotion puts bums on seats.
    Some good points here but I think Football needs to look at how they can make the best of the current Sky deal with regards to actual fan attendance. Thankfully we only have Barnsley as a home midweek night game left but in future I'd like to see some tinkering around the fixture list if possible. Some consideration should be given to the distance and travel arrangements that fans have to face on these midweek games. If we would have played Orient at home last night the actual attendance would have been over 10000, yes both clubs are in good form but their close proximity would have increased the attendance in any case. I also think we use our Autumn months, where stepping outside your door does not require three layers of winter warmers just to survive the evening, for silly cup games that I can't even remember the names of. And lastly, when using public transport, especially the trains, how many take a look at the forecast and think, we'll if my last Services are cancelled due to the weather then I ain't getting home, it's a consideration, I live in Canterbury, by train I walk back in the door at midnight, by car I'm hoping that the A2/M2 are not having a cone evening but I'm still home at 23.00. Some thought needed by the Football authorities please, but I'm not hopeful. 
    Factors effecting midweek attendance, first it a league 1 game, second for most of the season we have been a lower mid table side playing poor football, third it was cold, fourth many of are supporters are not within 4 miles of the ground, fifth the number of people working from home, LTF numbers of journeys in rush hour down 20% compared to pre pandemic, sixth the game can be seen on a sports tv/streaming channel, and seventh there was European football 
    being covered last night Man City v Real Madrid for example. Just a few reasons.
    And 8th, and more important than any of the others, because this is the first time for 5 years we have had a winning team worth watching. It will need promotion for it to change up.
  • The only complaint I have about the Ref was he should have given Edun a second yellow for a numbr of fouls he committed which he would normally have been a yellow card, but no way was the Ref going to send him off. 
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  • Also meant to comment that the team/squad are contributing so much more now and no-one is 'hiding'.
    This isn't meant in a mean way, they were all always contributing but their individual and team contributions are a much better fit these days and make the football and results so more watchable and enjoyable.
    I don't think anyone was 'hiding' either but now it's much easier to remember all 11 (+) of them and appreciate what they are each bringing.

    I think Gass was out having a kick around (before the main warm up) so he must be there or thereabouts. Good luck to him and I do hope, if we need him at some stage, he can be....... to nick an NJ-ism...... a better version of himself.
  • Southbank said:
    msomerton said:
    Bailey said:
    bobmunro said:
    Feared the worst at first, the teams come out to a near empty Valley and started the game in a similar flat way. Jones made a couple of mistakes in first 3 mins, and their lightening striker blitzed past him and Gillesphey early on with ease. 

    But after about 10-15 mins we settled into the game and seemed to raise it about 3 gears. We were unlucky not to have at least a couple of goals lead by halftime, and when the goal and sending off happened, it seemed like a game over situation.

    Fair play to Peterborough, they had what looked a very young team and showed fantastic spirit playing with 10 men. The done the necessary slowing and we didn’t really get to grips with trying to stretch them. I wasn’t sure of the subs, Godden’s movement and in-box awareness seemed much more likely to lead to a late goal than lumping to Chuks and Miles, but we got what we needed from that corner.

    For just 6 or 7 thousand in the ground we made a fair old racket at the end. Such a shame the team continue to get so low turnouts, without the freebies I counted just 42 people in my block and the adjacent block, though it was nice to stand and not worry about anyone behind. Just one executive box in use in the ground too so commercially it seems just as bad. 

    As others have said the team is unrecognisable from a couple of months ago. It’s been an amazing turnaround, transition, whatever you want to call it. It was another good, well worked and deserved victory last night, this is the most we have played as ‘a team’ where everyone knows their role so quite a long time. 
    Good post.

    On your attendance point, a cold Tuesday night in February is what we would expect for a mid-table Division 3 game, which is what we were just a few games ago. Keep up this run and the crowds will swell - as we all know, initiatives around the edges to increase crowd size have a tiny effect, consistently winning matches and building hope of promotion puts bums on seats.
    Some good points here but I think Football needs to look at how they can make the best of the current Sky deal with regards to actual fan attendance. Thankfully we only have Barnsley as a home midweek night game left but in future I'd like to see some tinkering around the fixture list if possible. Some consideration should be given to the distance and travel arrangements that fans have to face on these midweek games. If we would have played Orient at home last night the actual attendance would have been over 10000, yes both clubs are in good form but their close proximity would have increased the attendance in any case. I also think we use our Autumn months, where stepping outside your door does not require three layers of winter warmers just to survive the evening, for silly cup games that I can't even remember the names of. And lastly, when using public transport, especially the trains, how many take a look at the forecast and think, we'll if my last Services are cancelled due to the weather then I ain't getting home, it's a consideration, I live in Canterbury, by train I walk back in the door at midnight, by car I'm hoping that the A2/M2 are not having a cone evening but I'm still home at 23.00. Some thought needed by the Football authorities please, but I'm not hopeful. 
    Factors effecting midweek attendance, first it a league 1 game, second for most of the season we have been a lower mid table side playing poor football, third it was cold, fourth many of are supporters are not within 4 miles of the ground, fifth the number of people working from home, LTF numbers of journeys in rush hour down 20% compared to pre pandemic, sixth the game can be seen on a sports tv/streaming channel, and seventh there was European football 
    being covered last night Man City v Real Madrid for example. Just a few reasons.
    And 8th, and more important than any of the others, because this is the first time for 5 years we have had a winning team worth watching. It will need promotion for it to change up.
    I'd be slightly more optimistic if this form continues and we remain in  playoff contention. People can start to believe relatively quickly when the word goes around. My brother was certainly talking about going last night, not sure yet if he went. If it goes on like this I can well see him dragging his wife along, and then my sister may join him and her daughter. I'd expect there to be quite a few Charlton families in the area who are kind of "second level" attendees. Better weather encourages fans like them, too.

    It's  a pity we've played all the teams with a big away following although I'd expect Hudds will be 2k plus if they stay in contention.
  • edited February 12
    Huge result last night. I think it's really important to note the reaction of our players after their player put that tackle in on Small for the red card, they surrounded the ref and left him little choice but to send the player off. I know it may not be great for the game but it works and a bit of housery is absolutely what I expected from a Nathan Jones team, we see it happen to us time and time again. I commented at the Bolton away game when Chuks saw their player stamp on one of ours right at the end, we were 2-1 up with seconds left but there was no complaining whatsoever, Chuks even went as far as walking over to the perpetrator and putting an arm around him. Last night was the complete opposite, these boys really have each others backs now and will do what it takes to improve their chances of winning. 

    They all saw the studs going into Thierry so I'm pleased they reacted the way they did. The referee to be fair waited awhile before making his decision.

    The Posh players and manager wanted Ramsey sent off and he stayed strong and didn't give in to their players.The foul did start a tad outside the box but I thought the foul continued in the box. Without freezing the screen I can't be sure but the ref didn't bottle it and fair play to him but I was still gutted at the time but realised the implications if he gave them the free kick.

    I swear some on here would rather Kayne had a red card and no penalty 🤷🏻‍♂️ it's Birmingham on Saturday and no Ramsey would've been a disaster.
    Yet both managers thought it was a red for their lad.

    One poster gave the Ref a mark of 1 🤦🏻‍♂️
    Totally bonkers.
    Another poster said TC shot was off target for the penalty.
  • The team is certainly playing as a unit now and is looking very good without the ball and improving when in possession. Really impressed by the fitness levels (congrates to the coaching team). The players look lean and trim apart from TC who is gradually bulking up a bit which he needs to do. Crossing could be better but variation of crossing is improving which is necessary given Godden's ability to run across defenders at the near post. Coventry is performing at a constantly high standard and well done to Gillesphey for a quietly effective game topped by an excellent winner. Gilbert has looked good when he has come on. Two excellent passes putting TC through in the box and a well taken corner for the goal.
  • AndyG said:
    The target points from the last batch of games has been met now onto Birmingham! Is it a free hit following the recent points picked up ? 
    No it isn't. My neighbour is a Birmingham supporter and I'm inviting him over to watch Saturday's game on Charlton TV. I want the bragging rights.
  • msomerton said:
    Bailey said:
    bobmunro said:
    Feared the worst at first, the teams come out to a near empty Valley and started the game in a similar flat way. Jones made a couple of mistakes in first 3 mins, and their lightening striker blitzed past him and Gillesphey early on with ease. 

    But after about 10-15 mins we settled into the game and seemed to raise it about 3 gears. We were unlucky not to have at least a couple of goals lead by halftime, and when the goal and sending off happened, it seemed like a game over situation.

    Fair play to Peterborough, they had what looked a very young team and showed fantastic spirit playing with 10 men. The done the necessary slowing and we didn’t really get to grips with trying to stretch them. I wasn’t sure of the subs, Godden’s movement and in-box awareness seemed much more likely to lead to a late goal than lumping to Chuks and Miles, but we got what we needed from that corner.

    For just 6 or 7 thousand in the ground we made a fair old racket at the end. Such a shame the team continue to get so low turnouts, without the freebies I counted just 42 people in my block and the adjacent block, though it was nice to stand and not worry about anyone behind. Just one executive box in use in the ground too so commercially it seems just as bad. 

    As others have said the team is unrecognisable from a couple of months ago. It’s been an amazing turnaround, transition, whatever you want to call it. It was another good, well worked and deserved victory last night, this is the most we have played as ‘a team’ where everyone knows their role so quite a long time. 
    Good post.

    On your attendance point, a cold Tuesday night in February is what we would expect for a mid-table Division 3 game, which is what we were just a few games ago. Keep up this run and the crowds will swell - as we all know, initiatives around the edges to increase crowd size have a tiny effect, consistently winning matches and building hope of promotion puts bums on seats.
    Some good points here but I think Football needs to look at how they can make the best of the current Sky deal with regards to actual fan attendance. Thankfully we only have Barnsley as a home midweek night game left but in future I'd like to see some tinkering around the fixture list if possible. Some consideration should be given to the distance and travel arrangements that fans have to face on these midweek games. If we would have played Orient at home last night the actual attendance would have been over 10000, yes both clubs are in good form but their close proximity would have increased the attendance in any case. I also think we use our Autumn months, where stepping outside your door does not require three layers of winter warmers just to survive the evening, for silly cup games that I can't even remember the names of. And lastly, when using public transport, especially the trains, how many take a look at the forecast and think, we'll if my last Services are cancelled due to the weather then I ain't getting home, it's a consideration, I live in Canterbury, by train I walk back in the door at midnight, by car I'm hoping that the A2/M2 are not having a cone evening but I'm still home at 23.00. Some thought needed by the Football authorities please, but I'm not hopeful. 
    Factors effecting midweek attendance, first it a league 1 game, second for most of the season we have been a lower mid table side playing poor football, third it was cold, fourth many of are supporters are not within 4 miles of the ground, fifth the number of people working from home, LTF numbers of journeys in rush hour down 20% compared to pre pandemic, sixth the game can be seen on a sports tv/streaming channel, and seventh there was European football 
    being covered last night Man City v Real Madrid for example. Just a few reasons.
    My guess is it probably comes down to two key factors but everything you mention will have had an impact. The two key factors imo were/are:

    1) although it was cold last night I suspect it’s more an issue that the weather has been shit all winter and the cold spell has been dragging on for fucking ages. Everybody just wants to hibernate at the moment. We need some warmer weather pdq before venturing out and going to a football match starts to seem like a good idea; and

    2) we’ve stormed into the play off places out of nowhere over that period of hibernation. Other than the teams we’ve displaced I doubt anybody has really noticed so far that we’re serious contenders now. More people might start to notice after we win on Saturday but I think it’s probably going to take a fans initiative to bring others along to jump start  an increase in crowd numbers but that will mean the club has to do something with ticket prices and freebies to season ticket holders.
  • Does this mean we have to find a new scapegoat or can we still say Gillesphey is useless and needs replacing, just asking 😂
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  • At the time I said the red was harsh. After seeing it again I take it back now. Slow mo always makes it look worse but think the ref made the correct decision on that one imo. Also think us surrounding the ref helped.
  • JamesSeed said:
    fenaddick said:
    Not heard a peep from my Posh supporting colleagues this morning, wonderful 
    Yes, my Arsenal fan friend Peter has had Peterborough as his second team sice boyhood, just because of the name. He couldn't name any of the players but gets quite competitive against Charlton, which I find very annoying. Especially when you look at our poor record against them in recent years. He's gone off radar since sending me a text at half time :-)
    Had an old work colleague who supported Liverpool just because they had Roger Hunt play for them....his name was Roger.
  • Watching the highlights it's ironic that given the ref's fussiness over corners he missed Docherty holding the No.4 to create the space for Macca's header
  • I thought Gilbert's corner delivery for Macca's goal was superb. It was like an Exocet missile , pinged across with pace and precision. W ehave lacked killer set piece deliveries so I am hoping his arrival in the team will bring more goals from the dead ball.
    Yep, and his through passing immaculate also.
  • Jayajosh said:
    I thought Gilbert's corner delivery for Macca's goal was superb. It was like an Exocet missile , pinged across with pace and precision. W ehave lacked killer set piece deliveries so I am hoping his arrival in the team will bring more goals from the dead ball.
    Yep, and his through passing immaculate also.
    We did well to get him in on loan , looks high end championship player to me .
  • A M-B: little to do, distribution OK
    RAMSAY: settling into his unfamiliar role
    JONES: not as dominant as sometimes but successfully walked the tightrope of his very early booking
    GILLESPHEY: no serious errors - that's a first - distribution still ropey, goals always gloss a performance
    SMALL: a very confident young man not averse to some shithousery - his recovery from the red card challenge was remarkable
    COVENTRY: some glimpses of Cullen alike performance
    BERRY: another influential game
    DOCHERTY: steadily improving
    EDWARDS: hard worker
    GODDEN: between 18 and 6 yards from goal he's as good as anyone we've had in years
    T.CAMPBELL: not his best night
    Referee:  probably got the major decisions right, made the rest of the night about him a petty officious twonk

    Leaburn: n/a
    Gilbert: n/a we scored from a corner!!!
    Aneke: n/a
    A.Mitchell: n/a
  • mendonca said:
    _MrDick said:
    Don’t laugh but second place is up for grabs. Big games against Wycombe and Wrexham at the end of the season but the way we’re playing, who knows 🤞
    Last season, didn't Oxford move from a very lowly position to the play-offs, only to win them? I remember it being quite some run.
    And then they beat the Spanners at the Toolbox so all’s good. 
  • JamesSeed said:
    fenaddick said:
    Not heard a peep from my Posh supporting colleagues this morning, wonderful 
    Yes, my Arsenal fan friend Peter has had Peterborough as his second team sice boyhood, just because of the name. He couldn't name any of the players but gets quite competitive against Charlton, which I find very annoying. Especially when you look at our poor record against them in recent years. He's gone off radar since sending me a text at half time :-)
    Had an old work colleague who supported Liverpool just because they had Roger Hunt play for them....his name was Roger.
    That's a coincidence. One of my neighbour's is called Roger and supports Liverpool simply because as a small child he saw that Roger Hunt played for England in the 1966 World Cup. He has never been to see a Liverpool game but still manages to make snide remarks about me supporting a L1 team.
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