Most has been said but I still can’t believe how bad Dochertys header was from close in that led to the corner that we got the winner from , he headed it to where there were body’s in the way when just the other direction away from the keeper had space.
I love Berry and Godden, two positive pieces of class who are so aware of what’s going on and much quicker thinkers than most of the rest .
He struggles to calmly execute the things you expect from a number 10.
Really? I thought he's been decent these last five games, and still improving. He's part of a midfield that has transformed itself recently.
Oh for sure. He's been a solid 7/8 performer for more than a few games now.
I should have made my point a bit clearer, in that he lacks a bit of calmness and disguise in his finishing and attempts at goal. Everything else, more than happy!
Making use of my freedom pass I sometimes take a trip into London for a walkabout, before doing my bit to boost the economy with a pub lunch or Pret sarnie.
Anyway, the thing that genuinely amazes me is the new tower blocks that have (and are) springing up. Whether taking the Abbeywood, Elizabeth or Bexleyheath train lines they are everywhere. Kidbrook, Lewisham, and Woolwich abound with them. On my drive to the Valley along the A206 there are a multitude of them and yet more being built within walking distance of the Valley.
The UK population has risen by 25 million in my lifetime, the population of Greenwich rose by 13 percent between 2011 and 2021 - that can only have accelerated in the last four years. There surely must be scope to increase our home attendance.
I'm not a marketing man, but I'm sure there are plenty of bright young people out there brimming over with ideas to target these high rise people.
The caveat of course is the product we supply, but if we are on a crest of a wave, now would be a good time to start.
Most has been said but I still can’t believe how bad Dochertys header was from close in that led to the corner that we got the winner from , he headed it to where there were body’s in the way when just the other direction away from the keeper had space.
I love Berry and Godden, two positive pieces of class who are so aware of what’s going on and much quicker thinkers than most of the rest .
There is a camera angle that certainly implies that the header was goal bound, until it was deflected away by a defender's hand...
There’s been talk about low attendance and hopes that bigger crowds will come if we keep up our good form, but I wouldn’t count on it. Even in 2018-19, when we had a strong season, we were barely getting over 12,000 towards the end. The reality is, there’s a ceiling on how many people want to watch League One football—whether it’s Charlton or anyone else.
Years of League One mediocrity have led many potential fans to drift away, and the increasing availability of streaming options this season is only making things worse. A bit of mid-season momentum isn’t going to suddenly bring those lapsed supporters back.
Streaming and general League One fatigue weren’t as much of a factor in 2018-19 (only our third season at this level), yet even then, crowds remained low despite our success. The truth is, the only way we’ll consistently draw 17,000–20,000+ at The Valley is by being in the Championship.
The club could certainly do more to promote itself locally, but the harsh reality is that many football fans simply don’t care about anything outside the Premier League’s top five. For those of us who are passionate enough to support a struggling London club and engage in discussions like these, that might seem strange. But it’s the reality.
I live in Woolwich, and I rarely see Charlton shirts or hats. Many locals weren’t born here, and for those who do follow football, League One doesn’t even register. Most have already pledged allegiance to Man United or Chelsea—some might not even realize they have a club right on their doorstep. That could change if we ever made it back to the Premier League, but for now, it’s a tough sell.
Feared the worst at first, the teams come out to a near empty Valley and started the game in a similar flat way. Jones made a couple of mistakes in first 3 mins, and their lightening striker blitzed past him and Gillesphey early on with ease.
But after about 10-15 mins we settled into the game and seemed to raise it about 3 gears. We were unlucky not to have at least a couple of goals lead by halftime, and when the goal and sending off happened, it seemed like a game over situation.
Fair play to Peterborough, they had what looked a very young team and showed fantastic spirit playing with 10 men. The done the necessary slowing and we didn’t really get to grips with trying to stretch them. I wasn’t sure of the subs, Godden’s movement and in-box awareness seemed much more likely to lead to a late goal than lumping to Chuks and Miles, but we got what we needed from that corner.
For just 6 or 7 thousand in the ground we made a fair old racket at the end. Such a shame the team continue to get so low turnouts, without the freebies I counted just 42 people in my block and the adjacent block, though it was nice to stand and not worry about anyone behind. Just one executive box in use in the ground too so commercially it seems just as bad.
As others have said the team is unrecognisable from a couple of months ago. It’s been an amazing turnaround, transition, whatever you want to call it. It was another good, well worked and deserved victory last night, this is the most we have played as ‘a team’ where everyone knows their role so quite a long time.
Welcome to the world of sky TV
Nothing to do with SKY tv. Attendances across all the divisions are higher in the past few years than for a very long time. It is specifically the demise of our club that is the problem. The solution is promotion, nothing else. https://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn/nav/attnengleague.htm
When I walked out of the Valley on the 3rd December after losing to Crawley, I genuinely thought the season was over, and it would be 6 more months of league one mid table mediocrity.
What a turnaround!
COYA
And how many on here were saying that Jones had to go?!
I was one and will quite happily eat humble pie for the rest of the season. The turnaround has been incredible and not just the results, we are decent to watch too.
I wasn't. I hate the churn of managers we've had, and I've been desperate to see us get some stability. But I was very quiet on that run of form that lead to the Crawley match, as I didn't have a single argument to defend they guy. But here we are! Happy days.
I was very much thinking like you, albeit I wasn't quiet about some of NJ's more self-defeating public remarks. Anyway, while NJ deserves a lot of credit for turning the form around and finally showing us the type of team he wants us to be, he in turn should be acknowledging the role of someone else who has been key to getting us there...
For years, more than 20 for sure, since the season we missed Scott Parker for the first two months I've a "minor injury" I've been banging on about the need to invest in the medical and fitness side. It seemed to be a minority pre-occupation on here, and indeed in the boardroom; but there's a simple logic at work. What's the point of spending money on good players if they are regularly unavailable? This was something that Methven at least asked publicly; I waited for action to back up the words, but along came Dr Will Abbott. We started the season looking fit. Miles and Chuks were clearly carefully managed back to availability. We lost Edwards due to a criminal assault, and during the bad autumn run it looked as though our jinx was back. Bu Ramsey returned on the optimistic end of the schedule, and now we have a full squad barring Ahadme. I cannot recall the last time we went into February with such a fit squad. And if you doubt the importance of that, just go and check out how things look at Huddersfield right now, where their expensive transfer window signing is one of several key players unavailable.
What's more, in these last two games I can't think of a time when a player went down needing treatment (AMB aside). That's pretty remarkable too. Early yesterday Godden seemed to catch his ankle near the touchline, probably down to that bloody pitch, and Terry on commentary was fretting about him- but he shook it off without treatment. We all fret about the games coming thick and fast, and whether some players need resting. Well based on their fitness, the answer is a clear "no". I find this pretty damn amazing, and it gives us a huge advantage at this stage of the season.
NJ has done a great job but I hope he acknowledges the great job done by Will Abbott in getting our medical and fitness regime into shape.
Never mind TC or Small, if I was a Championship club I'd be looking at pinching Will Abbott...
The contrast is enormous from before. All clubs get injuries, but we've massively cut down on the really annoying muscle injuries that so often plague squads (e.g. Spurs). Previously those minor muscle injuries would drag on and on, with players either out forever or rushed back too soon, and then breaking down again.
And the number of late goals we've scored shows our fitness as well. In 2025 we've hardly changed the starting 11, yet despite the miserable weather and poor pitch, the players still have plenty of energy.
When I walked out of the Valley on the 3rd December after losing to Crawley, I genuinely thought the season was over, and it would be 6 more months of league one mid table mediocrity.
What a turnaround!
COYA
And how many on here were saying that Jones had to go?!
I was one and will quite happily eat humble pie for the rest of the season. The turnaround has been incredible and not just the results, we are decent to watch too.
I wasn't. I hate the churn of managers we've had, and I've been desperate to see us get some stability. But I was very quiet on that run of form that lead to the Crawley match, as I didn't have a single argument to defend they guy. But here we are! Happy days.
I was very much thinking like you, albeit I wasn't quiet about some of NJ's more self-defeating public remarks. Anyway, while NJ deserves a lot of credit for turning the form around and finally showing us the type of team he wants us to be, he in turn should be acknowledging the role of someone else who has been key to getting us there...
For years, more than 20 for sure, since the season we missed Scott Parker for the first two months I've a "minor injury" I've been banging on about the need to invest in the medical and fitness side. It seemed to be a minority pre-occupation on here, and indeed in the boardroom; but there's a simple logic at work. What's the point of spending money on good players if they are regularly unavailable? This was something that Methven at least asked publicly; I waited for action to back up the words, but along came Dr Will Abbott. We started the season looking fit. Miles and Chuks were clearly carefully managed back to availability. We lost Edwards due to a criminal assault, and during the bad autumn run it looked as though our jinx was back. Bu Ramsey returned on the optimistic end of the schedule, and now we have a full squad barring Ahadme. I cannot recall the last time we went into February with such a fit squad. And if you doubt the importance of that, just go and check out how things look at Huddersfield right now, where their expensive transfer window signing is one of several key players unavailable.
What's more, in these last two games I can't think of a time when a player went down needing treatment (AMB aside). That's pretty remarkable too. Early yesterday Godden seemed to catch his ankle near the touchline, probably down to that bloody pitch, and Terry on commentary was fretting about him- but he shook it off without treatment. We all fret about the games coming thick and fast, and whether some players need resting. Well based on their fitness, the answer is a clear "no". I find this pretty damn amazing, and it gives us a huge advantage at this stage of the season.
NJ has done a great job but I hope he acknowledges the great job done by Will Abbott in getting our medical and fitness regime into shape.
Never mind TC or Small, if I was a Championship club I'd be looking at pinching Will Abbott...
The contrast is enormous from before. All clubs get injuries, but we've massively cut down on the really annoying muscle injuries that so often plague squads (e.g. Spurs). Previously those minor muscle injuries would drag on and on, with players either out forever or rushed back too soon, and then breaking down again.
And the number of late goals we've scored shows our fitness as well. In 2025 we've hardly changed the starting 11, yet despite the miserable weather and poor pitch, the players still have plenty of energy.
Anyone else think that we should stop lumping Chuks on towards the end of games? Think Kanu or Leaburn are much better/more dangerous options they can also keep the pressure on the other team more by being able to actually sprint.
When I walked out of the Valley on the 3rd December after losing to Crawley, I genuinely thought the season was over, and it would be 6 more months of league one mid table mediocrity.
What a turnaround!
COYA
And how many on here were saying that Jones had to go?!
I was one and will quite happily eat humble pie for the rest of the season. The turnaround has been incredible and not just the results, we are decent to watch too.
I wasn't. I hate the churn of managers we've had, and I've been desperate to see us get some stability. But I was very quiet on that run of form that lead to the Crawley match, as I didn't have a single argument to defend they guy. But here we are! Happy days.
I was very much thinking like you, albeit I wasn't quiet about some of NJ's more self-defeating public remarks. Anyway, while NJ deserves a lot of credit for turning the form around and finally showing us the type of team he wants us to be, he in turn should be acknowledging the role of someone else who has been key to getting us there...
For years, more than 20 for sure, since the season we missed Scott Parker for the first two months I've a "minor injury" I've been banging on about the need to invest in the medical and fitness side. It seemed to be a minority pre-occupation on here, and indeed in the boardroom; but there's a simple logic at work. What's the point of spending money on good players if they are regularly unavailable? This was something that Methven at least asked publicly; I waited for action to back up the words, but along came Dr Will Abbott. We started the season looking fit. Miles and Chuks were clearly carefully managed back to availability. We lost Edwards due to a criminal assault, and during the bad autumn run it looked as though our jinx was back. Bu Ramsey returned on the optimistic end of the schedule, and now we have a full squad barring Ahadme. I cannot recall the last time we went into February with such a fit squad. And if you doubt the importance of that, just go and check out how things look at Huddersfield right now, where their expensive transfer window signing is one of several key players unavailable.
What's more, in these last two games I can't think of a time when a player went down needing treatment (AMB aside). That's pretty remarkable too. Early yesterday Godden seemed to catch his ankle near the touchline, probably down to that bloody pitch, and Terry on commentary was fretting about him- but he shook it off without treatment. We all fret about the games coming thick and fast, and whether some players need resting. Well based on their fitness, the answer is a clear "no". I find this pretty damn amazing, and it gives us a huge advantage at this stage of the season.
NJ has done a great job but I hope he acknowledges the great job done by Will Abbott in getting our medical and fitness regime into shape.
Never mind TC or Small, if I was a Championship club I'd be looking at pinching Will Abbott...
The contrast is enormous from before. All clubs get injuries, but we've massively cut down on the really annoying muscle injuries that so often plague squads (e.g. Spurs). Previously those minor muscle injuries would drag on and on, with players either out forever or rushed back too soon, and then breaking down again.
And the number of late goals we've scored shows our fitness as well. In 2025 we've hardly changed the starting 11, yet despite the miserable weather and poor pitch, the players still have plenty of energy.
The fitness issue can be statistically addressed. We have scored 13 goals in the last 10 minutes this season, the best in the league.
In the same 10 minute period, we have only conceded 3.
Last season, it was the other way around.
Which shows that the ream is much fitter. Not only playing at a higher tempo until the final whistle, but mentally fitter, commiting less mistakes.
Which I think shows the efforts of both Will Abbott to keep the players fit, and NJ's training to make sure they're all as fit as butcher's dogs...
I think that whatever wonders Nathan, the trainers and the medics are doing to keep the team fit, a lot of credit must go to the fact Nathan is playing a consistent team selection and the impact that must be having on the players themselves and their wanting to be fit.
Having a consistent team selection makes it easier and no doubt much more enjoyable to play. It also means there is a core group that is getting fitter and building up more stamina simply by playing a competitive match once or twice a week. It also means that it becomes harder to break into that core 11 and replace the guy who is currently claiming that position and, vice versa, the guy holding that position won’t want to give it up. We probably saw an example of that the other night when for a few moments it looked like Godden might have to go off but instead he walked it off.
Feared the worst at first, the teams come out to a near empty Valley and started the game in a similar flat way. Jones made a couple of mistakes in first 3 mins, and their lightening striker blitzed past him and Gillesphey early on with ease.
But after about 10-15 mins we settled into the game and seemed to raise it about 3 gears. We were unlucky not to have at least a couple of goals lead by halftime, and when the goal and sending off happened, it seemed like a game over situation.
Fair play to Peterborough, they had what looked a very young team and showed fantastic spirit playing with 10 men. The done the necessary slowing and we didn’t really get to grips with trying to stretch them. I wasn’t sure of the subs, Godden’s movement and in-box awareness seemed much more likely to lead to a late goal than lumping to Chuks and Miles, but we got what we needed from that corner.
For just 6 or 7 thousand in the ground we made a fair old racket at the end. Such a shame the team continue to get so low turnouts, without the freebies I counted just 42 people in my block and the adjacent block, though it was nice to stand and not worry about anyone behind. Just one executive box in use in the ground too so commercially it seems just as bad.
As others have said the team is unrecognisable from a couple of months ago. It’s been an amazing turnaround, transition, whatever you want to call it. It was another good, well worked and deserved victory last night, this is the most we have played as ‘a team’ where everyone knows their role so quite a long time.
Welcome to the world of sky TV
Nothing to do with SKY tv. Attendances across all the divisions are higher in the past few years than for a very long time. It is specifically the demise of our club that is the problem. The solution is promotion, nothing else. https://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn/nav/attnengleague.htm
Part of the problem this season is the new Sky deal though. For lots of fans it’s effectively free to watch it at home on a Tuesday night now
Feared the worst at first, the teams come out to a near empty Valley and started the game in a similar flat way. Jones made a couple of mistakes in first 3 mins, and their lightening striker blitzed past him and Gillesphey early on with ease.
But after about 10-15 mins we settled into the game and seemed to raise it about 3 gears. We were unlucky not to have at least a couple of goals lead by halftime, and when the goal and sending off happened, it seemed like a game over situation.
Fair play to Peterborough, they had what looked a very young team and showed fantastic spirit playing with 10 men. The done the necessary slowing and we didn’t really get to grips with trying to stretch them. I wasn’t sure of the subs, Godden’s movement and in-box awareness seemed much more likely to lead to a late goal than lumping to Chuks and Miles, but we got what we needed from that corner.
For just 6 or 7 thousand in the ground we made a fair old racket at the end. Such a shame the team continue to get so low turnouts, without the freebies I counted just 42 people in my block and the adjacent block, though it was nice to stand and not worry about anyone behind. Just one executive box in use in the ground too so commercially it seems just as bad.
As others have said the team is unrecognisable from a couple of months ago. It’s been an amazing turnaround, transition, whatever you want to call it. It was another good, well worked and deserved victory last night, this is the most we have played as ‘a team’ where everyone knows their role so quite a long time.
Welcome to the world of sky TV
Nothing to do with SKY tv. Attendances across all the divisions are higher in the past few years than for a very long time. It is specifically the demise of our club that is the problem. The solution is promotion, nothing else. https://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn/nav/attnengleague.htm
Promotion will see attendances increase, but the current solution is for SOME of our supporter base to make the effort to get to the Valley more than they currently are
Anyone else think that we should stop lumping Chuks on towards the end of games? Think Kanu or Leaburn are much better/more dangerous options they can also keep the pressure on the other team more by being able to actually sprint.
Agreed, think the injuries have really caught up with Chuks, looks a shadow of his usual self the last few games. Have a feeling he may retire at the end of the season.
Feared the worst at first, the teams come out to a near empty Valley and started the game in a similar flat way. Jones made a couple of mistakes in first 3 mins, and their lightening striker blitzed past him and Gillesphey early on with ease.
But after about 10-15 mins we settled into the game and seemed to raise it about 3 gears. We were unlucky not to have at least a couple of goals lead by halftime, and when the goal and sending off happened, it seemed like a game over situation.
Fair play to Peterborough, they had what looked a very young team and showed fantastic spirit playing with 10 men. The done the necessary slowing and we didn’t really get to grips with trying to stretch them. I wasn’t sure of the subs, Godden’s movement and in-box awareness seemed much more likely to lead to a late goal than lumping to Chuks and Miles, but we got what we needed from that corner.
For just 6 or 7 thousand in the ground we made a fair old racket at the end. Such a shame the team continue to get so low turnouts, without the freebies I counted just 42 people in my block and the adjacent block, though it was nice to stand and not worry about anyone behind. Just one executive box in use in the ground too so commercially it seems just as bad.
As others have said the team is unrecognisable from a couple of months ago. It’s been an amazing turnaround, transition, whatever you want to call it. It was another good, well worked and deserved victory last night, this is the most we have played as ‘a team’ where everyone knows their role so quite a long time.
Welcome to the world of sky TV
Nothing to do with SKY tv. Attendances across all the divisions are higher in the past few years than for a very long time. It is specifically the demise of our club that is the problem. The solution is promotion, nothing else. https://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn/nav/attnengleague.htm
Promotion will see attendances increase, but the current solution is for SOME of our supporter base to make the effort to get to the Valley more than they currently are
Agreed - it has become so easy to watch games on tv now - whether that is by a stream, sky or a stick and the ever increasing number of games that don't start at 3pm on a Saturday is also a factor. The next Saturday 3pm home game will be much better attended than the last few games - particularly if we beat Birmingham.
I live about an 8-minute walk from the Valley, and it was about 50/50 whether to stay in and watch City v Madrid or leave the house. I was happy I went to the valley, but I don't blame anyone who stayed in.
Anyone else think that we should stop lumping Chuks on towards the end of games? Think Kanu or Leaburn are much better/more dangerous options they can also keep the pressure on the other team more by being able to actually sprint.
I think it really depends on the game, although I agree his effectiveness overall has definitely decreased and can't imagine he'll be playing professional football beyond this season. The Shrewsbury game however, where they were sat resolutely for 90 minutes blocking us out, Chucks came on and made a difference because it switched things up and put their defenders into panic. Sure there were other instances this season too but I can't remember them at the moment.
Against Blackpool and Peterbrough however, what we were doing was working and we just needed to stick at it. Bringing Chucks on completely hamstringed our pressing game against Blackpool - though would also add that Kanu didn't give us anything positive either.
Feared the worst at first, the teams come out to a near empty Valley and started the game in a similar flat way. Jones made a couple of mistakes in first 3 mins, and their lightening striker blitzed past him and Gillesphey early on with ease.
But after about 10-15 mins we settled into the game and seemed to raise it about 3 gears. We were unlucky not to have at least a couple of goals lead by halftime, and when the goal and sending off happened, it seemed like a game over situation.
Fair play to Peterborough, they had what looked a very young team and showed fantastic spirit playing with 10 men. The done the necessary slowing and we didn’t really get to grips with trying to stretch them. I wasn’t sure of the subs, Godden’s movement and in-box awareness seemed much more likely to lead to a late goal than lumping to Chuks and Miles, but we got what we needed from that corner.
For just 6 or 7 thousand in the ground we made a fair old racket at the end. Such a shame the team continue to get so low turnouts, without the freebies I counted just 42 people in my block and the adjacent block, though it was nice to stand and not worry about anyone behind. Just one executive box in use in the ground too so commercially it seems just as bad.
As others have said the team is unrecognisable from a couple of months ago. It’s been an amazing turnaround, transition, whatever you want to call it. It was another good, well worked and deserved victory last night, this is the most we have played as ‘a team’ where everyone knows their role so quite a long time.
Good post.
On your attendance point, a cold Tuesday night in February is what we would expect for a mid-table Division 3 game, which is what we were just a few games ago. Keep up this run and the crowds will swell - as we all know, initiatives around the edges to increase crowd size have a tiny effect, consistently winning matches and building hope of promotion puts bums on seats.
Is it really what we expect? It seemed like a very sparse Valley to me. Given that we are on a winning streak and playing some really good football I'd like to have seen more fans there? Is it just a Charlton thing caused by years of disappointment and some horribly boring football earlier in the season or is it Sky?
Its a combination of the two, but years and years of disappointment, will take more than a few decent performances to bring back those lapsed fans on a freezing Tuesday evening. Its not just past poor performances but many a time we have had a run and as the fans have started to come back we have slipped back into mediocrity. Keep getting the results and getting a sniff of the play offs closer to the end and fans will come back. If we get to the play offs then hopefully we will get a good crowd for the home leg. Anyone know what we got for the Doncaster play off semi.
Too often we have flattered to deceive, so it is not a surprise that the return is a trickle, but if we can keep going then a return to decent crowds will be possible, but maybe not in the freezing cold
Anyone else think that we should stop lumping Chuks on towards the end of games? Think Kanu or Leaburn are much better/more dangerous options they can also keep the pressure on the other team more by being able to actually sprint.
I thought Chuks was more effective than Miles on Tuesday, winning a lot in the air. Miles has looked quite sluggish since his return from injury.
Not heard a peep from my Posh supporting colleagues this morning, wonderful
Yes, my Arsenal fan friend Peter has had Peterborough as his second team sice boyhood, just because of the name. He couldn't name any of the players but gets quite competitive against Charlton, which I find very annoying. Especially when you look at our poor record against them in recent years. He's gone off radar since sending me a text at half time :-)
Had an old work colleague who supported Liverpool just because they had Roger Hunt play for them....his name was Roger.
That's a coincidence. One of my neighbour's is called Roger and supports Liverpool simply because as a small child he saw that Roger Hunt played for England in the 1966 World Cup. He has never been to see a Liverpool game but still manages to make snide remarks about me supporting a L1 team.
Not heard a peep from my Posh supporting colleagues this morning, wonderful
Yes, my Arsenal fan friend Peter has had Peterborough as his second team sice boyhood, just because of the name. He couldn't name any of the players but gets quite competitive against Charlton, which I find very annoying. Especially when you look at our poor record against them in recent years. He's gone off radar since sending me a text at half time :-)
Had an old work colleague who supported Liverpool just because they had Roger Hunt play for them....his name was Roger.
That's a coincidence. One of my neighbour's is called Roger and supports Liverpool simply because as a small child he saw that Roger Hunt played for England in the 1966 World Cup. He has never been to see a Liverpool game but still manages to make snide remarks about me supporting a L1 team.
Worse than a full-kit wanker.
Has he been through your bins? Coz that's the acid test.
Got into work this morning full of joy. I was told I had a delivery in Thrapston, not twigging that it's only 15 miles from P'boro, off I headed. When I got there the fork lift driver approached my truck (which is heavily adourned with Charlton flags, lights, shirts etc) and was met with the greeting along the lines of "You got some fecking nerve driving that in here". Made me chuckle, but not as much as when he later added "you lot were lucky. We deserved at least a point".
Delusion it seems runs through every club.
As someone who has been exiled in Thrapston for the past decade, I just registered to show my appreciation for this!! Between the Posh and Cobblers fans up here, it's a lonely life...
There’s been talk about low attendance and hopes that bigger crowds will come if we keep up our good form, but I wouldn’t count on it. Even in 2018-19, when we had a strong season, we were barely getting over 12,000 towards the end. The reality is, there’s a ceiling on how many people want to watch League One football—whether it’s Charlton or anyone else.
Got into work this morning full of joy. I was told I had a delivery in Thrapston, not twigging that it's only 15 miles from P'boro, off I headed. When I got there the fork lift driver approached my truck (which is heavily adourned with Charlton flags, lights, shirts etc) and was met with the greeting along the lines of "You got some fecking nerve driving that in here". Made me chuckle, but not as much as when he later added "you lot were lucky. We deserved at least a point".
Delusion it seems runs through every club.
As someone who has been exiled in Thrapston for the past decade, I just registered to show my appreciation for this!! Between the Posh and Cobblers fans up here, it's a lonely life...
"Between the Posh and Cobblers fans up here" ? rather there than be stuck on the Greenwich/Deptford/Lewisham border. Wanna swap ?
Though it no longer has a station, Thrapston has the next best thing, old railway walks amongst other things to do, and i just spent a chunk of my life finding Station Road on Google earth, which is nice.
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I should have made my point a bit clearer, in that he lacks a bit of calmness and disguise in his finishing and attempts at goal. Everything else, more than happy!
So, we could have had another penalty instead.
There’s been talk about low attendance and hopes that bigger crowds will come if we keep up our good form, but I wouldn’t count on it. Even in 2018-19, when we had a strong season, we were barely getting over 12,000 towards the end. The reality is, there’s a ceiling on how many people want to watch League One football—whether it’s Charlton or anyone else.
Years of League One mediocrity have led many potential fans to drift away, and the increasing availability of streaming options this season is only making things worse. A bit of mid-season momentum isn’t going to suddenly bring those lapsed supporters back.
Streaming and general League One fatigue weren’t as much of a factor in 2018-19 (only our third season at this level), yet even then, crowds remained low despite our success. The truth is, the only way we’ll consistently draw 17,000–20,000+ at The Valley is by being in the Championship.
The club could certainly do more to promote itself locally, but the harsh reality is that many football fans simply don’t care about anything outside the Premier League’s top five. For those of us who are passionate enough to support a struggling London club and engage in discussions like these, that might seem strange. But it’s the reality.
I live in Woolwich, and I rarely see Charlton shirts or hats. Many locals weren’t born here, and for those who do follow football, League One doesn’t even register. Most have already pledged allegiance to Man United or Chelsea—some might not even realize they have a club right on their doorstep. That could change if we ever made it back to the Premier League, but for now, it’s a tough sell.
https://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn/nav/attnengleague.htm
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/birmingham-city-injury-news-charlton-29851911
In the same 10 minute period, we have only conceded 3.
Last season, it was the other way around.
Which shows that the ream is much fitter. Not only playing at a higher tempo until the final whistle, but mentally fitter, commiting less mistakes.
Which I think shows the efforts of both Will Abbott to keep the players fit, and NJ's training to make sure they're all as fit as butcher's dogs...
Having a consistent team selection makes it easier and no doubt much more enjoyable to play. It also means there is a core group that is getting fitter and building up more stamina simply by playing a competitive match once or twice a week. It also means that it becomes harder to break into that core 11 and replace the guy who is currently claiming that position and, vice versa, the guy holding that position won’t want to give it up. We probably saw an example of that the other night when for a few moments it looked like Godden might have to go off but instead he walked it off.
Against Blackpool and Peterbrough however, what we were doing was working and we just needed to stick at it. Bringing Chucks on completely hamstringed our pressing game against Blackpool - though would also add that Kanu didn't give us anything positive either.
Too often we have flattered to deceive, so it is not a surprise that the return is a trickle, but if we can keep going then a return to decent crowds will be possible, but maybe not in the freezing cold
"Between the Posh and Cobblers fans up here" ? rather there than be stuck on the Greenwich/Deptford/Lewisham border. Wanna swap ?
Though it no longer has a station, Thrapston has the next best thing, old railway walks amongst other things to do, and i just spent a chunk of my life finding Station Road on Google earth, which is nice.
https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Attractions-g504029-Activities-Thrapston_Northamptonshire_England.html
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