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I am going to say it!! Yes I am, Nathan Jones......................
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Ah, sorry, oops! Terrible reading comprehension. You're let off...this timeChunes said:
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LargeAddick said:
Ah, in that case I don't think anyone has a clue but all this talk of a million is just rubbish. Heavily weighted with add-on payments is my guess, small upfront fee.Chunes said:
I'd not be surpised if the upfront payment was way below 500k.
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I don’t think he gets in any of our good teams in league one - which aren’t many , granted , but certainly not the 18/19 team and not the 11/12 team . But yes , he’s better than anyone else we have now .Leuth said:0 -
It would be negligence of the highest order if NJ didnt have a minimum performance red line of top six. We are way short, even after kicking off with three straight wins, recent form dire, supporters even STs staying away.
Nine games until window shuts, do we give him that leeway? Or do we wait until play-offs are mathematically impossible? I hope the SMT are discussing these dilemnas.0 -
Window hasn’t even opened yet and you’re already counting down to it shutting!Gisappointed said:It would be negligence of the highest order if NJ didnt have a minimum performance red line of top six. We are way short, even after kicking off with three straight wins, recent form dire, supporters even STs staying away.
Nine games until window shuts, do we give him that leeway? Or do we wait until play-offs are mathematically impossible? I hope the SMT are discussing these dilemnas.3 -
Jan 2026 window will be shut before we know it, better get planning now for whoever our manager will be in 2 managers timefenaddick said:
Window hasn’t even opened yet and you’re already counting down to it shutting!Gisappointed said:It would be negligence of the highest order if NJ didnt have a minimum performance red line of top six. We are way short, even after kicking off with three straight wins, recent form dire, supporters even STs staying away.
Nine games until window shuts, do we give him that leeway? Or do we wait until play-offs are mathematically impossible? I hope the SMT are discussing these dilemnas.2 -
We won’t get relegated this season.SouthLincsAddick said:Callumcafc said:
If by trouble you mean treading water in League One, I know.ElfsborgAddick said:Callumcafc said:ElfsborgAddick said:Scoham said:
I think Gavin Carter’s new role suggests they have concerns but expect they don’t want to keep sacking managers. We’d likely end up with an appointment part way through the transfer window which isn’t ideal.Oh Eddie Youds... said:We’re playing the worst football the valley has ever seen, have only managed to beat bottom placed Burton (who had 10 men) in the last 8 league games & are on track to repeat our ‘lowest finish for 98 years’ record but the owners do not see any immediate concern??
Unless there is a dramatic turnaround in our fortunes very soon, I will be amazed if Methven, Rodwell and Scott are still at Charlton come the start of next season.
At last, it looks like you're coming around to the fact we are in trouble.
If by trouble you mean relegation, you’ve been saying that the last three years…
In the last 12 game form table we are firmly in the relegation zone. It took two changes of management to get us out of this position last season.0 -
It’s unlike you to be confidentCallumcafc said:
We won’t get relegated this season.SouthLincsAddick said:Callumcafc said:
If by trouble you mean treading water in League One, I know.ElfsborgAddick said:Callumcafc said:ElfsborgAddick said:Scoham said:
I think Gavin Carter’s new role suggests they have concerns but expect they don’t want to keep sacking managers. We’d likely end up with an appointment part way through the transfer window which isn’t ideal.Oh Eddie Youds... said:We’re playing the worst football the valley has ever seen, have only managed to beat bottom placed Burton (who had 10 men) in the last 8 league games & are on track to repeat our ‘lowest finish for 98 years’ record but the owners do not see any immediate concern??
Unless there is a dramatic turnaround in our fortunes very soon, I will be amazed if Methven, Rodwell and Scott are still at Charlton come the start of next season.
At last, it looks like you're coming around to the fact we are in trouble.
If by trouble you mean relegation, you’ve been saying that the last three years…In the last 12 game form table we are firmly in the relegation zone. It took two changes of management to get us out of this position last season.1 -
Out of the 10 teams below us, 5 have earned more points than us in the last 5 games (5pts), Rotherham (12) Leyton Orient (13), Bristol Rovers (6), Crawley (7) and Wigan (6)Callumcafc said:
We won’t get relegated this season.SouthLincsAddick said:Callumcafc said:
If by trouble you mean treading water in League One, I know.ElfsborgAddick said:Callumcafc said:ElfsborgAddick said:Scoham said:
I think Gavin Carter’s new role suggests they have concerns but expect they don’t want to keep sacking managers. We’d likely end up with an appointment part way through the transfer window which isn’t ideal.Oh Eddie Youds... said:We’re playing the worst football the valley has ever seen, have only managed to beat bottom placed Burton (who had 10 men) in the last 8 league games & are on track to repeat our ‘lowest finish for 98 years’ record but the owners do not see any immediate concern??
Unless there is a dramatic turnaround in our fortunes very soon, I will be amazed if Methven, Rodwell and Scott are still at Charlton come the start of next season.
At last, it looks like you're coming around to the fact we are in trouble.
If by trouble you mean relegation, you’ve been saying that the last three years…In the last 12 game form table we are firmly in the relegation zone. It took two changes of management to get us out of this position last season.
The remaining 5 are Exeter (4), Northampton (3), Cambridge (4), Burton (4) and Shrewsbury (3)
It is far too close to say with confidence that we won't get relegated. Our form is woeful, and every team above us are in good from except for 3 of them.
Leyton Orient and Rotherham are both well on course for leapfrogging us, from what I saw of Crawley, there's every chance they could overtake us. That leaves around 7 teams that we need to make sure we outperform to avoid relegation again.
Burton have a new manager, Shrewsbury appointed an experienced manager in this league, Bristol Rovers and Northampton both need new managers. These are teams that could benefit from new manager bounces.
I genuinely think at this stage now, it's more likely we get relegated than it was last season.
I'll also be fair and say I don't think it will happen, but I wouldn't be surprised if it did. Either way, it's absolutely horrendous it's even a talking point again.9 -
You might be right, but I feel like this view of his transfer fee is based on how poor he's been, and the idea that we couldn't possibly have spent good money on someone so bad. I personally can't find any solace in that belief. I think it's very possible we did actually pay good money. And the fact we gave him a 4-year contract says a lot about the value we placed on him.LargeAddick said:
Ah, in that case I don't think anyone has a clue but all this talk of a million is just rubbish. Heavily weighted with add-on payments is my guess, small upfront fee.Chunes said:0 - Sponsored links:
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Could make some decent money at 33/1 if you're that confident that we're worse off than last season when I think it went as low as 8/1..?Braziliance said:
Out of the 10 teams below us, 5 have earned more points than us in the last 5 games (5pts), Rotherham (12) Leyton Orient (13), Bristol Rovers (6), Crawley (7) and Wigan (6)Callumcafc said:
We won’t get relegated this season.SouthLincsAddick said:Callumcafc said:
If by trouble you mean treading water in League One, I know.ElfsborgAddick said:Callumcafc said:ElfsborgAddick said:Scoham said:
I think Gavin Carter’s new role suggests they have concerns but expect they don’t want to keep sacking managers. We’d likely end up with an appointment part way through the transfer window which isn’t ideal.Oh Eddie Youds... said:We’re playing the worst football the valley has ever seen, have only managed to beat bottom placed Burton (who had 10 men) in the last 8 league games & are on track to repeat our ‘lowest finish for 98 years’ record but the owners do not see any immediate concern??
Unless there is a dramatic turnaround in our fortunes very soon, I will be amazed if Methven, Rodwell and Scott are still at Charlton come the start of next season.
At last, it looks like you're coming around to the fact we are in trouble.
If by trouble you mean relegation, you’ve been saying that the last three years…In the last 12 game form table we are firmly in the relegation zone. It took two changes of management to get us out of this position last season.
The remaining 5 are Exeter (4), Northampton (3), Cambridge (4), Burton (4) and Shrewsbury (3)
It is far too close to say with confidence that we won't get relegated. Our form is woeful, and every team above us are in good from except for 3 of them.
Leyton Orient and Rotherham are both well on course for leapfrogging us, from what I saw of Crawley, there's every chance they could overtake us. That leaves around 7 teams that we need to make sure we outperform to avoid relegation again.
Burton have a new manager, Shrewsbury appointed an experienced manager in this league, Bristol Rovers and Northampton both need new managers. These are teams that could benefit from new manager bounces.
I genuinely think at this stage now, it's more likely we get relegated than it was last season.
I'll also be fair and say I don't think it will happen, but I wouldn't be surprised if it did. Either way, it's absolutely horrendous it's even a talking point again.0 -
I could say the exact same to you. If you're that sure we will stay up, make some money from it.Callumcafc said:
Could make some decent money at 33/1 if you're that confident that we're worse off than last season when I think it went as low as 8/1..?Braziliance said:
Out of the 10 teams below us, 5 have earned more points than us in the last 5 games (5pts), Rotherham (12) Leyton Orient (13), Bristol Rovers (6), Crawley (7) and Wigan (6)Callumcafc said:
We won’t get relegated this season.SouthLincsAddick said:Callumcafc said:
If by trouble you mean treading water in League One, I know.ElfsborgAddick said:Callumcafc said:ElfsborgAddick said:Scoham said:
I think Gavin Carter’s new role suggests they have concerns but expect they don’t want to keep sacking managers. We’d likely end up with an appointment part way through the transfer window which isn’t ideal.Oh Eddie Youds... said:We’re playing the worst football the valley has ever seen, have only managed to beat bottom placed Burton (who had 10 men) in the last 8 league games & are on track to repeat our ‘lowest finish for 98 years’ record but the owners do not see any immediate concern??
Unless there is a dramatic turnaround in our fortunes very soon, I will be amazed if Methven, Rodwell and Scott are still at Charlton come the start of next season.
At last, it looks like you're coming around to the fact we are in trouble.
If by trouble you mean relegation, you’ve been saying that the last three years…In the last 12 game form table we are firmly in the relegation zone. It took two changes of management to get us out of this position last season.
The remaining 5 are Exeter (4), Northampton (3), Cambridge (4), Burton (4) and Shrewsbury (3)
It is far too close to say with confidence that we won't get relegated. Our form is woeful, and every team above us are in good from except for 3 of them.
Leyton Orient and Rotherham are both well on course for leapfrogging us, from what I saw of Crawley, there's every chance they could overtake us. That leaves around 7 teams that we need to make sure we outperform to avoid relegation again.
Burton have a new manager, Shrewsbury appointed an experienced manager in this league, Bristol Rovers and Northampton both need new managers. These are teams that could benefit from new manager bounces.
I genuinely think at this stage now, it's more likely we get relegated than it was last season.
I'll also be fair and say I don't think it will happen, but I wouldn't be surprised if it did. Either way, it's absolutely horrendous it's even a talking point again.
I wouldn't bet on it cause I'm not confident in either outcome, it just wouldn't surprise me if it happened looking at the table, forms and squads.1 -
No I'm assessing the nine games while a manager can sign players to affect our awful season. I don't think NJ is capable.fenaddick said:
Window hasn’t even opened yet and you’re already counting down to it shutting!Gisappointed said:It would be negligence of the highest order if NJ didnt have a minimum performance red line of top six. We are way short, even after kicking off with three straight wins, recent form dire, supporters even STs staying away.
Nine games until window shuts, do we give him that leeway? Or do we wait until play-offs are mathematically impossible? I hope the SMT are discussing these dilemnas.
Keep him onboard until we are below last seasons (16th?) or get shot.
No idea who could be better, but hard to see who could be worse given his ego0 -
https://x.com/CAFCofficial/status/1869790261733097929?t=JTeOiMkqhkbOWQ4XoIk9nw&s=19
Didn't realise Nathan Jones watched the Northampton game? Sort of implies Appleton was gone before a ball was kicked in that game then.
It would be quite ironic if Jones final nail in his coffin would be a loss to Northampton6 -
I think Burton and Shrewsbury will go down quite easily, thus making things better for us.Braziliance said:
Out of the 10 teams below us, 5 have earned more points than us in the last 5 games (5pts), Rotherham (12) Leyton Orient (13), Bristol Rovers (6), Crawley (7) and Wigan (6)Callumcafc said:
We won’t get relegated this season.SouthLincsAddick said:Callumcafc said:
If by trouble you mean treading water in League One, I know.ElfsborgAddick said:Callumcafc said:ElfsborgAddick said:Scoham said:
I think Gavin Carter’s new role suggests they have concerns but expect they don’t want to keep sacking managers. We’d likely end up with an appointment part way through the transfer window which isn’t ideal.Oh Eddie Youds... said:We’re playing the worst football the valley has ever seen, have only managed to beat bottom placed Burton (who had 10 men) in the last 8 league games & are on track to repeat our ‘lowest finish for 98 years’ record but the owners do not see any immediate concern??
Unless there is a dramatic turnaround in our fortunes very soon, I will be amazed if Methven, Rodwell and Scott are still at Charlton come the start of next season.
At last, it looks like you're coming around to the fact we are in trouble.
If by trouble you mean relegation, you’ve been saying that the last three years…In the last 12 game form table we are firmly in the relegation zone. It took two changes of management to get us out of this position last season.
The remaining 5 are Exeter (4), Northampton (3), Cambridge (4), Burton (4) and Shrewsbury (3)
It is far too close to say with confidence that we won't get relegated. Our form is woeful, and every team above us are in good from except for 3 of them.
Leyton Orient and Rotherham are both well on course for leapfrogging us, from what I saw of Crawley, there's every chance they could overtake us. That leaves around 7 teams that we need to make sure we outperform to avoid relegation again.
Burton have a new manager, Shrewsbury appointed an experienced manager in this league, Bristol Rovers and Northampton both need new managers. These are teams that could benefit from new manager bounces.
I genuinely think at this stage now, it's more likely we get relegated than it was last season.
I'll also be fair and say I don't think it will happen, but I wouldn't be surprised if it did. Either way, it's absolutely horrendous it's even a talking point again.
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We won’t go down, but that’s frankly neither here nor there. The only goal this football club has is promotion out of this division. The fact that another season is going by without any semblance of that being achieved is outrageous.15
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Chunes said:
You might be right, but I feel like this view of his transfer fee is based on how poor he's been, and the idea that we couldn't possibly have spent good money on someone so bad. I personally can't find any solace in that belief. I think it's very possible we did actually pay good money. And the fact we gave him a 4-year contract says a lot about the value we placed on him.LargeAddick said:
Ah, in that case I don't think anyone has a clue but all this talk of a million is just rubbish. Heavily weighted with add-on payments is my guess, small upfront fee.Chunes said:
The original source of the €1m fee was a whole sentence from Dharmesh on skysports transfer centre live, which said "deal worth".
Everywhere else, including the Ipswich journos just quoted that.
I doubt we paid anything close to a million up front. Regardless of his performances and ability.
Or maybe it's a bit like Naby Sarr wages where after every poor performance he was on 8-12k a week and needed binning and every good performance was on 4-6k and worth keeping.0 -
Sell on, International appearances (thank god he didn't get on), promotion, games played, doubt we paid more than a nominal fee. He could challenge me on this, but I think he would pass it backwards0
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We need to stick with him
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Oh, good.Callumcafc said:
We won’t get relegated this season.SouthLincsAddick said:Callumcafc said:
If by trouble you mean treading water in League One, I know.ElfsborgAddick said:Callumcafc said:ElfsborgAddick said:Scoham said:
I think Gavin Carter’s new role suggests they have concerns but expect they don’t want to keep sacking managers. We’d likely end up with an appointment part way through the transfer window which isn’t ideal.Oh Eddie Youds... said:We’re playing the worst football the valley has ever seen, have only managed to beat bottom placed Burton (who had 10 men) in the last 8 league games & are on track to repeat our ‘lowest finish for 98 years’ record but the owners do not see any immediate concern??
Unless there is a dramatic turnaround in our fortunes very soon, I will be amazed if Methven, Rodwell and Scott are still at Charlton come the start of next season.
At last, it looks like you're coming around to the fact we are in trouble.
If by trouble you mean relegation, you’ve been saying that the last three years…In the last 12 game form table we are firmly in the relegation zone. It took two changes of management to get us out of this position last season.10 - Sponsored links:
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Quite possibly that was the case, but also likely that Jones would have watched back the video of at least the last few games when he took over to see what he was working withBraziliance said:https://x.com/CAFCofficial/status/1869790261733097929?t=JTeOiMkqhkbOWQ4XoIk9nw&s=19
Didn't realise Nathan Jones watched the Northampton game? Sort of implies Appleton was gone before a ball was kicked in that game then.
It would be quite ironic if Jones final nail in his coffin would be a loss to Northampton0 -
I'd rather see slightly crap photoshop pictures over AI anytimeBigRedEvil said:We need to stick with him3 -
Yes you can and I have been told previously what we have paid for certain players...se9addick said:
You’ll never know for sure how much we’ve paid for an individual player. “player trading” is reported in our annual accounts but I think that’s a net sum (I.e all transfer fees received minus all transfer fees paid in the reporting period). People who tell you with certainty how much we paid for a player are 99% of the time either making it up or regurgitating information that someone else made up.Redhenry said:the rumour we paid a mill for Coventry, turned out it was nowt, hence my question, how much did we pay for Ahadme.
We need proper investment in the team to get out of this shite League...Salaries are reported in the annual accounts too, but this is on a whole company basis rather than player by player. So you can surmise from our latest accounts that we have one of the highest wage budgets in the division, but you can’t figure exactly how much we’re overpaying each of these wastes of space.1 -
Can you settle the Ahadme debate @Redhenry ? Did we pay a big fee up front?Redhenry said:
Yes you can and I have been told previously what we have paid for certain players...se9addick said:
You’ll never know for sure how much we’ve paid for an individual player. “player trading” is reported in our annual accounts but I think that’s a net sum (I.e all transfer fees received minus all transfer fees paid in the reporting period). People who tell you with certainty how much we paid for a player are 99% of the time either making it up or regurgitating information that someone else made up.Redhenry said:the rumour we paid a mill for Coventry, turned out it was nowt, hence my question, how much did we pay for Ahadme.
We need proper investment in the team to get out of this shite League...Salaries are reported in the annual accounts too, but this is on a whole company basis rather than player by player. So you can surmise from our latest accounts that we have one of the highest wage budgets in the division, but you can’t figure exactly how much we’re overpaying each of these wastes of space.2 -
Chunes said:
Can you settle the Ahadme debate @Redhenry ? Did we pay a big fee up front?Redhenry said:
Yes you can and I have been told previously what we have paid for certain players...se9addick said:
You’ll never know for sure how much we’ve paid for an individual player. “player trading” is reported in our annual accounts but I think that’s a net sum (I.e all transfer fees received minus all transfer fees paid in the reporting period). People who tell you with certainty how much we paid for a player are 99% of the time either making it up or regurgitating information that someone else made up.Redhenry said:the rumour we paid a mill for Coventry, turned out it was nowt, hence my question, how much did we pay for Ahadme.
We need proper investment in the team to get out of this shite League...Salaries are reported in the annual accounts too, but this is on a whole company basis rather than player by player. So you can surmise from our latest accounts that we have one of the highest wage budgets in the division, but you can’t figure exactly how much we’re overpaying each of these wastes of space.
And confirm that Jones is not the highest paid manager in our history.
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"Ironically I watched the game here, just before I took over"NabySarr said:
Quite possibly that was the case, but also likely that Jones would have watched back the video of at least the last few games when he took over to see what he was working withBraziliance said:https://x.com/CAFCofficial/status/1869790261733097929?t=JTeOiMkqhkbOWQ4XoIk9nw&s=19
Didn't realise Nathan Jones watched the Northampton game? Sort of implies Appleton was gone before a ball was kicked in that game then.
It would be quite ironic if Jones final nail in his coffin would be a loss to Northampton
Sort of implies he was at the game, not just at the Valley re-watching old footage of Charlton games.
He'd have only been at the game if he was ready to take over surely, that was my point0 -
Hopefully Des Buckingham is at Northampton watching the game tomorrow!5
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Curbs was really well paid, even though it was ages ago . You could hover on Floyd road and pay someone 25k a year to do what Jones offersElfsborgAddick said:Chunes said:
Can you settle the Ahadme debate @Redhenry ? Did we pay a big fee up front?Redhenry said:
Yes you can and I have been told previously what we have paid for certain players...se9addick said:
You’ll never know for sure how much we’ve paid for an individual player. “player trading” is reported in our annual accounts but I think that’s a net sum (I.e all transfer fees received minus all transfer fees paid in the reporting period). People who tell you with certainty how much we paid for a player are 99% of the time either making it up or regurgitating information that someone else made up.Redhenry said:the rumour we paid a mill for Coventry, turned out it was nowt, hence my question, how much did we pay for Ahadme.
We need proper investment in the team to get out of this shite League...Salaries are reported in the annual accounts too, but this is on a whole company basis rather than player by player. So you can surmise from our latest accounts that we have one of the highest wage budgets in the division, but you can’t figure exactly how much we’re overpaying each of these wastes of space.
And confirm that Jones is not the highest paid manager in our history.0 -
Fixed for you.BigRedEvil said:We need to stick him1 -
Palace not playing? Destined to wind up there isn't he? Or Reading.Oh Eddie Youds... said:Hopefully Des Buckingham is at Northampton watching the game tomorrow!
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