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Alfie May- Progress at Birmingham
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Exactly this. People are acting like he's not scored all season and the manager doesn't want him. May literally scored the winner for them in midweek 4 days before our game. He got subbed off in a game where things weren't going well for the team overall, not just May, which is why they made a triple substitution at half time, so it's not really a big deal.UEAAddick said:He didn't get going for them today, but don't think he should be written off this season for them. Give him the chances he will score and he still scored a few already.
In their 9 games, May has started 7 of them and has scored 5 goals. Their fans seem to really like him and i'm sure the manager knows May is a quality striker he can rely on. Birmingham have a strong squad, so in a long season players are going to get rotated.
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Alfie’s season last year can be split into three parts.May had scored 15 league goals after 18 league appearances last season but tailed off hard through the winter months until he picked up some form again from March onwards.
15 in 18 -> 1 in 13 -> 7 in 12
He’s already kicked off a relatively barren spell with Birmingham, scoring once in his last five appearances after starting with 4 in 4. They’ll be hoping it doesn’t stretch to 1 in 13.
Meanwhile, I don’t expect anyone to match the numbers Alfie was putting up this time last year. In early December, he was on track for ~38 goals which is ludicrous.2 -
He will score 25 goals this season, they will create enough chances for him.. Godden will score 15 plus goals, if we play the same style as we did Saturday!
Any poacher type of forward will struggle for goals in the style we were playing. Hopefully following Saturday, we continue to try and play football rather than by passing our midfield!
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Was I dreaming it, or has May already said in an interview that he left due to family reasons?3
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Not really digging out, more showing that Godden is doing well so far as a replacement. I think what's stranger is jumping on a comment praising Godden to criticise Kanu and the rest of the strikers after we've just won a game. I think it's weirder to go after our own players at any given opportunity rather than knocking other teams players to be honestSELR_addicks said:
May 5 goalsDubaiCAFC said:May 106 minutes per goal.
Godden 105 minutes per goal.
Godden 3 goals
The random digging out of May after we played well is very strange. Especially after we've had to sit through Kanu missing an open goal and the rest of the 'performances' this season up front from our striking collective.6 -
Struggle to understand why someone would use their family to "take one for the team", rather than tell the truth or, better still, just say nothing at all and move on.Scoham said:
Yes but we also know Jones didn’t rate him, whether it was a weakness in his game or a personality clash. May was never going to talk about that.Gribbo said:Was I dreaming it, or has May already said in an interview that he left due to family reasons?
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I mean if he is implying the reasons in the video HE made aren't true then he could literally just come out and tell the REAL story now (I'm sure it will turn out that the career highest payday he got for a 31 year old reaching the twilight of his career wasn't the real pull and he would have been happy to stay with Charlton) instead of doing all this cryptic nonsense.TellyTubby said:Alfie May has promised the true story surrounding his Charlton Athletic exit will eventually come out after being subjected to abuse since swapping The Valley for St Andrew’s.
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/birmingham-city-alfie-may-charlton-30052657
Do i agree with people booing him (I say booing because i didnt see/hear anything above that tbh, certainly nothing which i constitute as abuse) ? No i don't, he did well for us and by far and large, we all know the main reasons he left and fair enough.
Though this is one of the reasons i have a real disdain for us buying local players is that you get a small number of fans who have a personal connection to the player and he can never do any wrong or needs to be put on a pedestal -I.E May, Innis, Solly etc1 -
It's literally true, there may have been other reasons but he literally went on video and said it. thats why people believe it !Croydon said:Never bought the family story and I'm amazed anybody on here did tbh.
I can't believe the amount of conspiracy theorists we have on here, if the government told you the sky was blue you would swear its green.4 -
He made a video saying but clearly we need to get the police involved because he must of been having a gun pointed at him off camera.Gribbo said:Was I dreaming it, or has May already said in an interview that he left due to family reasons?
There is NO WAY a 31 year old player who has never been on great money, spent a lot of his career at non-league, doesn't even support Charlton, has a wife from the north of England who presumably takes on most of the childcare and would want to be closer to her family would EVER want to leave Charlton to earn a career high payday, on a 3-year contract, be closer to his wife's family and play for a team that is nailed on to win something this year.
I mean apart from the video of him LITERALLY saying it where are the sources ???
Remember guys when your in Kent when you hear hooves consider there may be Zebras near.3 -
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I’m sure it is true, but it’s also not a conspiracy theory to say Jones was happy for him to leave.Radostanradical said:
It's literally true, there may have been other reasons but he literally went on video and said it. thats why people believe it !Croydon said:Never bought the family story and I'm amazed anybody on here did tbh.
I can't believe the amount of conspiracy theorists we have on here, if the government told you the sky was blue you would swear it’s green.6 -
He probably had to sign a non disclosure agreement so he is not able to speak the truth……yetRadostanradical said:
I mean if he is implying the reasons in the video HE made aren't true then he could literally just come out and tell the REAL story now (I'm sure it will turn out that the career highest payday he got for a 31 year old reaching the twilight of his career wasn't the real pull and he would have been happy to stay with Charlton) instead of doing all this cryptic nonsense.TellyTubby said:Alfie May has promised the true story surrounding his Charlton Athletic exit will eventually come out after being subjected to abuse since swapping The Valley for St Andrew’s.
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/birmingham-city-alfie-may-charlton-30052657
Do i agree with people booing him (I say booing because i didnt see/hear anything above that tbh, certainly nothing which i constitute as abuse) ? No i don't, he did well for us and by far and large, we all know the main reasons he left and fair enough.
Though this is one of the reasons i have a real disdain for us buying local players is that you get a small number of fans who have a personal connection to the player and he can never do any wrong or needs to be put on a pedestal -I.E May, Innis, Solly etc1 -
It's 100% true, whether he weren't Jones' first choice, and / or he was lured by the money at Birmingham is another matter, the point still stands that the reason he gave for leaving weren't Jones or Methven or the club being w**kers, or even the better offer from Brum, it was to move north to be with his family. So not too sure why there's seemingly more emphasis being put on Jones and the Club wanting him gone, rather than him wanting to go?Scoham said:
I’m sure it is true, but it’s also not a conspiracy theory to say Jones was happy for him to leave.Radostanradical said:
It's literally true, there may have been other reasons but he literally went on video and said it. thats why people believe it !Croydon said:Never bought the family story and I'm amazed anybody on here did tbh.
I can't believe the amount of conspiracy theorists we have on here, if the government told you the sky was blue you would swear it’s green.
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I cant tell if this is satirical or not, I sincerely doubt that a league one club is that concerned about a player sayings why he left, its LITERALLY the business of a club to sell and buy players.eaststandmike said:
He probably had to sign a non disclosure agreement so he is not able to speak the truth……yetRadostanradical said:
I mean if he is implying the reasons in the video HE made aren't true then he could literally just come out and tell the REAL story now (I'm sure it will turn out that the career highest payday he got for a 31 year old reaching the twilight of his career wasn't the real pull and he would have been happy to stay with Charlton) instead of doing all this cryptic nonsense.TellyTubby said:Alfie May has promised the true story surrounding his Charlton Athletic exit will eventually come out after being subjected to abuse since swapping The Valley for St Andrew’s.
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/birmingham-city-alfie-may-charlton-30052657
Do i agree with people booing him (I say booing because i didnt see/hear anything above that tbh, certainly nothing which i constitute as abuse) ? No i don't, he did well for us and by far and large, we all know the main reasons he left and fair enough.
Though this is one of the reasons i have a real disdain for us buying local players is that you get a small number of fans who have a personal connection to the player and he can never do any wrong or needs to be put on a pedestal -I.E May, Innis, Solly etc
Having some experience with with NDA's I'm not even sure if it would be legally enforceable in this situation ? I mean what are they stopping him from saying ? NDA's usually come with some kind of payoff. the club could just as easily say he is lying if he claims he was forced out.0 -
100%, in a previous a post i listed all the reasons for staying and going. For someone who isnt a Charlton fan it really isnt a difficult decision to leaveGribbo said:
It's 100% true, whether he weren't Jones' first choice, and / or he was lured by the money at Birmingham is another matter, the point still stands that the reason he gave for leaving weren't Jones or Methven or the club being w**kers, or even the better offer from Brum, it was to move north to be with his family. So not too sure why there's seemingly more emphasis being put on Jones and the Club wanting him gone, rather than him wanting to go?Scoham said:
I’m sure it is true, but it’s also not a conspiracy theory to say Jones was happy for him to leave.Radostanradical said:
It's literally true, there may have been other reasons but he literally went on video and said it. thats why people believe it !Croydon said:Never bought the family story and I'm amazed anybody on here did tbh.
I can't believe the amount of conspiracy theorists we have on here, if the government told you the sky was blue you would swear it’s green.0 -
Nothing satirical about my post, just my opinion on what possibly happened. I fully understand what you are saying but on the flip side I doubt the club wanted Alfie taking to social media saying something along the lines of “Jones didn’t want me and I have been forced out of the club”Radostanradical said:
I cant tell if this is satirical or not, I sincerely doubt that a league one club is that concerned about a player sayings why he left, its LITERALLY the business of a club to sell and buy players.eaststandmike said:
He probably had to sign a non disclosure agreement so he is not able to speak the truth……yetRadostanradical said:
I mean if he is implying the reasons in the video HE made aren't true then he could literally just come out and tell the REAL story now (I'm sure it will turn out that the career highest payday he got for a 31 year old reaching the twilight of his career wasn't the real pull and he would have been happy to stay with Charlton) instead of doing all this cryptic nonsense.TellyTubby said:Alfie May has promised the true story surrounding his Charlton Athletic exit will eventually come out after being subjected to abuse since swapping The Valley for St Andrew’s.
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/birmingham-city-alfie-may-charlton-30052657
Do i agree with people booing him (I say booing because i didnt see/hear anything above that tbh, certainly nothing which i constitute as abuse) ? No i don't, he did well for us and by far and large, we all know the main reasons he left and fair enough.
Though this is one of the reasons i have a real disdain for us buying local players is that you get a small number of fans who have a personal connection to the player and he can never do any wrong or needs to be put on a pedestal -I.E May, Innis, Solly etc
Having some experience with with NDA's I'm not even sure if it would be legally enforceable in this situation ? I mean what are they stopping him from saying ? NDA's usually come with some kind of payoff. the club could just as easily say he is lying if he claims he was forced out.
The reaction from the fans with him leaving for “family” reasons has been bad enough, imagine if he said the above1 -
Recently both May and Jones have come out and said they were being abused by our fans. Where does this abuse take place? I'm not on twitter but is it there? Or are they reading forums? Would be interesting to know and are they actually real fans giving the abuse. I struggle to see it.0
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It will be on Twitter but there are plenty of brave souls sat in the stands and behind dugouts.2
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Jones got quite a bit of stick at the end of the game in Bristol when he walked over to the fans . I don’t like it but if you are going that far on a Tuesday night and spend the money , you’re entitled to let the manager know what you think after that performance.MeerKat said:Recently both May and Jones have come out and said they were being abused by our fans. Where does this abuse take place? I'm not on twitter but is it there? Or are they reading forums? Would be interesting to know and are they actually real fans giving the abuse. I struggle to see it.May was obviously booed on Saturday but that’s not abuse .3 -
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If he's signed something to effectively potentially throw his family "under the bus", I'd be amazed.eaststandmike said:
He probably had to sign a non disclosure agreement so he is not able to speak the truth……yetRadostanradical said:
I mean if he is implying the reasons in the video HE made aren't true then he could literally just come out and tell the REAL story now (I'm sure it will turn out that the career highest payday he got for a 31 year old reaching the twilight of his career wasn't the real pull and he would have been happy to stay with Charlton) instead of doing all this cryptic nonsense.TellyTubby said:Alfie May has promised the true story surrounding his Charlton Athletic exit will eventually come out after being subjected to abuse since swapping The Valley for St Andrew’s.
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/birmingham-city-alfie-may-charlton-30052657
Do i agree with people booing him (I say booing because i didnt see/hear anything above that tbh, certainly nothing which i constitute as abuse) ? No i don't, he did well for us and by far and large, we all know the main reasons he left and fair enough.
Though this is one of the reasons i have a real disdain for us buying local players is that you get a small number of fans who have a personal connection to the player and he can never do any wrong or needs to be put on a pedestal -I.E May, Innis, Solly etc
All he had to do in the case of signing any non disclosure agreement (I personally don't think he has), was to say thanks for the memories and support, and not go into any reasons. Looked to me like he's got tears in his eyes during that interview, so it's a pretty convincing cover up0 -
May probably got a few messages on instagram.Bedsaddick said:
Jones got quite a bit of stick at the end of the game in Bristol when he walked over to the fans . I don’t like it but if you are going that far on a Tuesday night and spend the money , you’re entitled to let the manager know what you think after that performance.MeerKat said:Recently both May and Jones have come out and said they were being abused by our fans. Where does this abuse take place? I'm not on twitter but is it there? Or are they reading forums? Would be interesting to know and are they actually real fans giving the abuse. I struggle to see it.May was obviously booed on Saturday but that’s not abuse .0 -
Hardly throwing his family under the bus is he, no names have been mentioned just a nod to his misses wanting to be near family. I am sure when Alfie told her his wages were being trebled she couldn’t give a toss.Gribbo said:
If he's signed something to effectively potentially throw his family "under the bus", I'd be amazed.eaststandmike said:
He probably had to sign a non disclosure agreement so he is not able to speak the truth……yetRadostanradical said:
I mean if he is implying the reasons in the video HE made aren't true then he could literally just come out and tell the REAL story now (I'm sure it will turn out that the career highest payday he got for a 31 year old reaching the twilight of his career wasn't the real pull and he would have been happy to stay with Charlton) instead of doing all this cryptic nonsense.TellyTubby said:Alfie May has promised the true story surrounding his Charlton Athletic exit will eventually come out after being subjected to abuse since swapping The Valley for St Andrew’s.
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/birmingham-city-alfie-may-charlton-30052657
Do i agree with people booing him (I say booing because i didnt see/hear anything above that tbh, certainly nothing which i constitute as abuse) ? No i don't, he did well for us and by far and large, we all know the main reasons he left and fair enough.
Though this is one of the reasons i have a real disdain for us buying local players is that you get a small number of fans who have a personal connection to the player and he can never do any wrong or needs to be put on a pedestal -I.E May, Innis, Solly etc
All he had to do in the case of signing any non disclosure agreement (I personally don't think he has), was to say thanks for the memories and support, and not go into any reasons. Looked to me like he's got tears in his eyes during that interview, so it's a pretty convincing cover up
Dale Stevens said he was leaving to be near family up north, he signed for Brighton
Is Ahadme really injured or just been dropped, could it be Jones and the club are saving face and telling porkies because our most expensive signing is a dud
Football clubs tell the fans what they want to hear, not the truth1 -
It's rife on Social media. It's a cesspitMeerKat said:Recently both May and Jones have come out and said they were being abused by our fans. Where does this abuse take place? I'm not on twitter but is it there? Or are they reading forums? Would be interesting to know and are they actually real fans giving the abuse. I struggle to see it.
There was a absolute bellend on twitter last week saying May's "wife was a whore, and his Dad was a police informant".
I see so much horrible stuff online aimed at players by people who don't have the testicular fortitude to say it to their face. But the sad truth is the players and their families do read it and it does affect them.6 -
Bloody Elon Musk, he really needs to mind his own business.Swisdom said:
It's rife on Social media. It's a cesspitMeerKat said:Recently both May and Jones have come out and said they were being abused by our fans. Where does this abuse take place? I'm not on twitter but is it there? Or are they reading forums? Would be interesting to know and are they actually real fans giving the abuse. I struggle to see it.
There was a absolute bellend on twitter last week saying May's "wife was a whore, and his Dad was a police informant".4 -
Most of the abusive stuff on twitter is usually from faceless accounts with names like Dave3457533. They don't care because you can't see who they are and even if their account was closed, another one would likely be setup soon after with Dave3457544.Swisdom said:
It's rife on Social media. It's a cesspitMeerKat said:Recently both May and Jones have come out and said they were being abused by our fans. Where does this abuse take place? I'm not on twitter but is it there? Or are they reading forums? Would be interesting to know and are they actually real fans giving the abuse. I struggle to see it.
There was a absolute bellend on twitter last week saying May's "wife was a whore, and his Dad was a police informant".
I see so much horrible stuff online aimed at players by people who don't have the testicular fortitude to say it to their face. But the sad truth is the players and their families do read it and it does affect them.
Then you have the extreme opposite end of the scale with that Sheffield Wednesday fan who was very much not faceless last week and has since lost his job, been banned for life by the club, banned for life by his golf club, been disowned by half his family and charged by the police.2 -
I'm not ITK re May's personal circumstance but work regularly with confidentiality law and NDA's, I am 100% certain that May hasnt signed an NDA nor would it even be enforceable in this situation.eaststandmike said:
Hardly throwing his family under the bus is he, no names have been mentioned just a nod to his misses wanting to be near family. I am sure when Alfie told her his wages were being trebled she couldn’t give a toss.Gribbo said:
If he's signed something to effectively potentially throw his family "under the bus", I'd be amazed.eaststandmike said:
He probably had to sign a non disclosure agreement so he is not able to speak the truth……yetRadostanradical said:
I mean if he is implying the reasons in the video HE made aren't true then he could literally just come out and tell the REAL story now (I'm sure it will turn out that the career highest payday he got for a 31 year old reaching the twilight of his career wasn't the real pull and he would have been happy to stay with Charlton) instead of doing all this cryptic nonsense.TellyTubby said:Alfie May has promised the true story surrounding his Charlton Athletic exit will eventually come out after being subjected to abuse since swapping The Valley for St Andrew’s.
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/birmingham-city-alfie-may-charlton-30052657
Do i agree with people booing him (I say booing because i didnt see/hear anything above that tbh, certainly nothing which i constitute as abuse) ? No i don't, he did well for us and by far and large, we all know the main reasons he left and fair enough.
Though this is one of the reasons i have a real disdain for us buying local players is that you get a small number of fans who have a personal connection to the player and he can never do any wrong or needs to be put on a pedestal -I.E May, Innis, Solly etc
All he had to do in the case of signing any non disclosure agreement (I personally don't think he has), was to say thanks for the memories and support, and not go into any reasons. Looked to me like he's got tears in his eyes during that interview, so it's a pretty convincing cover up
Dale Stevens said he was leaving to be near family up north, he signed for Brighton
Is Ahadme really injured or just been dropped, could it be Jones and the club are saving face and telling porkies because our most expensive signing is a dud
Football clubs tell the fans what they want to hear, not the truth
Ahadme, Stevens ? if you question everything why only things that suit your agenda ? what has Leaburn been up to the last year ? Why did Parker leave ? etc0 -
Yes there's a small percentage of morons who say abusive stuff (like the example you listed) but most of the time it's just an opinion and not abuse, then the players families and friends seem to take it personally on here (and socials).Swisdom said:
It's rife on Social media. It's a cesspitMeerKat said:Recently both May and Jones have come out and said they were being abused by our fans. Where does this abuse take place? I'm not on twitter but is it there? Or are they reading forums? Would be interesting to know and are they actually real fans giving the abuse. I struggle to see it.
There was a absolute bellend on twitter last week saying May's "wife was a whore, and his Dad was a police informant".
I see so much horrible stuff online aimed at players by people who don't have the testicular fortitude to say it to their face. But the sad truth is the players and their families do read it and it does affect them.
Case in point would be players like Inniss (and he isnt the only one by far) who at times had seemed to have a cult following on here and couldn't be blamed for anything. What does one constitute as horrible ? I have said before there are players who shouldnt have been at this club (I.E Inniss, Isted etc), would i say that to his face ? I probably wouldnt walk up to him whilst he is with his family or minding his own business but if he asked me directly should i be playing for Charlton I would of told him i dont think he is good enough.0 -
Relatively speaking of course he is. If these theories are to be accepted, he's effectively blaming something that is completely not their fault, on them.eaststandmike said:
Hardly throwing his family under the bus is he, no names have been mentioned just a nod to his misses wanting to be near family. I am sure when Alfie told her his wages were being trebled she couldn’t give a toss.Gribbo said:
If he's signed something to effectively potentially throw his family "under the bus", I'd be amazed.eaststandmike said:
He probably had to sign a non disclosure agreement so he is not able to speak the truth……yetRadostanradical said:
I mean if he is implying the reasons in the video HE made aren't true then he could literally just come out and tell the REAL story now (I'm sure it will turn out that the career highest payday he got for a 31 year old reaching the twilight of his career wasn't the real pull and he would have been happy to stay with Charlton) instead of doing all this cryptic nonsense.TellyTubby said:Alfie May has promised the true story surrounding his Charlton Athletic exit will eventually come out after being subjected to abuse since swapping The Valley for St Andrew’s.
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/birmingham-city-alfie-may-charlton-30052657
Do i agree with people booing him (I say booing because i didnt see/hear anything above that tbh, certainly nothing which i constitute as abuse) ? No i don't, he did well for us and by far and large, we all know the main reasons he left and fair enough.
Though this is one of the reasons i have a real disdain for us buying local players is that you get a small number of fans who have a personal connection to the player and he can never do any wrong or needs to be put on a pedestal -I.E May, Innis, Solly etc
All he had to do in the case of signing any non disclosure agreement (I personally don't think he has), was to say thanks for the memories and support, and not go into any reasons. Looked to me like he's got tears in his eyes during that interview, so it's a pretty convincing cover up
Dale Stevens said he was leaving to be near family up north, he signed for Brighton
Is Ahadme really injured or just been dropped, could it be Jones and the club are saving face and telling porkies because our most expensive signing is a dud
Football clubs tell the fans what they want to hear, not the truth
As I said, reckon he'd be more inclined to say nothing than get emotional in the interview and bring his kids education etc into it. Far too elaborate imo0 -
Inniss didn't have a cult following. He had the majority of the site calling him a caveman psychopath liability and blaming him for every goal we conceded, and a small but vocal gang of basically just me observing that he may also have some positive personal and professional qualities tooRadostanradical said:
Yes there's a small percentage of morons who say abusive stuff (like the example you listed) but most of the time it's just an opinion and not abuse, then the players families and friends seem to take it personally on here (and socials).Swisdom said:
It's rife on Social media. It's a cesspitMeerKat said:Recently both May and Jones have come out and said they were being abused by our fans. Where does this abuse take place? I'm not on twitter but is it there? Or are they reading forums? Would be interesting to know and are they actually real fans giving the abuse. I struggle to see it.
There was a absolute bellend on twitter last week saying May's "wife was a whore, and his Dad was a police informant".
I see so much horrible stuff online aimed at players by people who don't have the testicular fortitude to say it to their face. But the sad truth is the players and their families do read it and it does affect them.
Case in point would be players like Inniss (and he isnt the only one by far) who at times had seemed to have a cult following on here and couldn't be blamed for anything. What does one constitute as horrible ? I have said before there are players who shouldnt have been at this club (I.E Inniss, Isted etc), would i say that to his face ? I probably wouldnt walk up to him whilst he is with his family or minding his own business but if he asked me directly should i be playing for Charlton I would of told him i dont think he is good enough.2
